CNN poll: Obama’s job approval back to 50%; Update: Obama leads all GOP candidates in swing states

posted at 6:38 pm on February 15, 2012 by Allahpundit

The economy’s looking up and, thanks to our … unfortunate field of GOP presidential candidates, Republican enthusiasm’s looking down.

This is the fourth national poll in two weeks in which O’s hit 50 percent. Dude, I’m nervous.

The president’s approval rating has edged up three points from last month and is up six points from November. The last time Obama’s approval rating was at 50% or above was last May, as a result of the killing of Osama bin Laden, and it stayed there for about a month before fading…

The survey suggests that the contentious Republican primary season has decreased enthusiasm among Republican voters, virtually erasing the “enthusiasm gap” that promised to provide the ultimate GOP presidential nominee with a major advantage in the fall. In October, 64% of Republicans said that they were extremely or very enthusiastic about voting for president, compared to only 43% of Democratic voters. GOP enthusiasm since that time has tumbled 13 points, to 51%, virtually the same as the Democrats’ level of enthusiasm.

Republicans actually outnumber Democrats in CNN’s sample of registered voters so there’s no obvious reason to suspect the data. The GOP enthusiasm trend (the columns represent “extremely,” “very,” “somewhat,” “not too,” and “not at all” enthusiastic):

Back in October, the field was still huge and we were proceeding apace through the “anyone can win” wheel o’ frontrunners. Three months later, when the January poll was taken, Romney had just won New Hampshire (and Iowa, we thought at the time) so the race suddenly felt like a foregone conclusion. A month later the race is unsettled again, but it’s nastier than ever and no one’s thrilled with their options. I wonder what the numbers look like next month if we get another good jobs report and if the vote splits three ways on Super Tuesday.

Beyond that, Ron Brownstein of National Journal noted yesterday that Obama’s numbers head to head against Romney across various demographics are starting to look a lot like his numbers against McCain four years ago, a sign that the disgruntled Hopenchange coalition might be piecing itself back together. Of special note: The One does six points better against Romney among white women voters than he did against McCain in 2008, and bear in mind that Romney is the stronger of the two top Republican candidates among women right now. He leads Santorum in that demographic by nine points, which is nothing new for RS: He lost women in his 2000 Senate victory and got clobbered among women in his landslide defeat to Bob Casey in 2006. Gonna be a lot of gender politics, starting with his old comments about contraception being “harmful to women,” in the general election if he’s the nominee.

On the other hand:

Romney and Gingrich are perceived as candidates of the rich whereas Santorum is seen as more blue-collar. But even as between Mitt and Newt, there’s a distinction. When tea partiers are asked whether Gingrich favors the rich or the middle class, they split 35/53. (Santorum’s split is 15/65.) When they’re asked about Romney, though, behold:

If even a majority of core conservative voters thinks one of the GOP’s candidates is biased towards the rich then Team Hopenchange clearly has very fertile populist ground on which to attack him in the general. For further reading on that, I’ll leave you with this Nate Silver piece provocatively titled, “Why Obama Will Embrace the 99 Percent.” In key swing states like Ohio, Wisconsin, Iowa, Michigan, and Indiana, there are enough working-class white voters to make a big difference to Obama’s margin against Romney if he can exploit perceptions that Mitt’s in the pocket of the, ahem, “one percent.” Santorum would be much tougher for him to beat on that point — but of course, potentially much easier for him to beat among women. Who’s more electable ultimately?

Update: Meanwhile, Fox News says O is up against everyone in a broad regional poll of swing states. Dude, I’m nervous.

These swing states fall into three regional tiers. The Rocky Mountain tier includes Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico. The Rust Belt tier includes Iowa, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. And the Dixie tier includes North Carolina, Florida and Virginia.

Across these states, Santorum performs about as well as Romney in matchups with the president.

The swing-state voters back Obama over Romney by 8 percentage points and Santorum by 9 points.

Note: Obama does trail in certain individual swing states. In Ohio, Romney leads him by six and Santorum leads him by three.

Update: Even Obama girl seems ready to vote for him again.


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We got our clocks cleaned in the last presidential election

tomas on February 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM

If Santorum gets the nomination it won’t matter…you can’t lose independents, moderates and fiscal conservatives and win.
Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:02 PM

Save your breath on the knuckleheads Priscilla. They don’t understand BO will win if we cannot bring in leaners and disaffected dems.

After seeing the polls showing Sotero’s approval rate at 50% I’m losing faith there are enough smart people left in the USA that understand any of this.

FireBlogger on February 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM

For all of you who were clamoring for a vicious spectacle at the debates and in the primary in general to assuage your craving for spectacle… THIS…is the reason the rest of us said that we needed to rally around the most electable candidate and get this primary over with as quickly as possible.

The debates were fine.

It’s the flood of negative attack ads that turned people off.

And..who started the flood of negativity? Hmm?

tkyang99 on February 15, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Romney has no charisma. He is a robot. Republicans will not be jumping up and down for him come November

liberal4life on February 15, 2012 at 8:14 PM

I’ll vote for Romney or Gingrich. However I’ll vote for Obama if Santorum is the nominee, because not only would I want to see Santorum lose the election, I want to see him get pulverized (metaphorically, of course). I’ll still vote straight GOP in the down ticket.

Actually, my friends that consider themselves libertarian leaning, but almost always vote Republican because they are fiscal cons, have said the same thing. It makes sense. He comes across very much like a latter day Jimmy Carter, with that same preachy, holier than thou attitude.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:14 PM

I’ve said that repeatedly, as have most all of the Romney backers here, as far as I can see. Its the ABR’s who are constantly declaring that they’ll stay home, go 3rd party or vote for Obama if Mitt is the nominee.

Nope, thphilli and a bunch were writing just today they’ll actually vote for President Obama instead, so it’s not mostly anybody. I’m glad you will though.

If Santorum gets the nomination it won’t matter…you can’t lose independents, moderates and fiscal conservatives and win.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:02 PM

And you’ll never win without your base either. Most parties shore their base before they go after their undecideds. The Republican Party deserves to lose the Conservative base of it’s own party. I’ve left. I’ll vote for the Republican, but I learned a long time ago that Republicans only needs my vote. They don’t need me.

hawkdriver on February 15, 2012 at 8:15 PM

What’s the big deal??

If the economy improves, and he does get re-elected…

He will have failed anyway. Next Pres cleans up the mess.

WryTrvllr on February 15, 2012 at 8:16 PM

After seeing the polls showing Sotero’s approval rate at 50% I’m losing faith there are enough smart people left in the USA that understand any of this.

FireBlogger on February 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM

I hear ya….I’m feeling pretty down about that too – but it’s too early to lose faith yet.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Save your breath on the knuckleheads Priscilla. They don’t understand BO will win if we cannot bring in leaners and disaffected dems.

After seeing the polls showing Sotero’s approval rate at 50% I’m losing faith there are enough smart people left in the USA that understand any of this.

FireBlogger on February 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM

Charmer. You prove my point.

hawkdriver on February 15, 2012 at 8:16 PM

If the sheeple perceive that the economy is improving he’ll get re-elected in a landslide. The media will do their best to insure that is the perception regardless of the reality. I have accepted the fact that we’ll have a second Omamao regime, but I wonder if the country will survive 4 years of it. On a totally unrelated note I’m sure; ammo and gun sales are at record levels since this tool was elected…

Doomsday on February 15, 2012 at 8:16 PM

CNN poll.

Meh

BobMbx on February 15, 2012 at 8:17 PM

When all your enemy has to say is Fox news then it is going to be tough to win.

tomas on February 15, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Hopefully, this is the choice I’ll get, because I’d hate to have to spend emotional capital for a losing effort (i.e. Romney or Gingrich). At least with Santorum as the nominee I’ll be able to enjoy the shellacking he’ll get.

Godzilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Yep, this is the GOP. Room for anyone but a Conservative.

hawkdriver on February 15, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Actually, my friends that consider themselves libertarian leaning, but almost always vote Republican because they are fiscal cons, have said the same thing. It makes sense. He comes across very much like a latter day Jimmy Carter, with that same preachy, holier than thou attitude.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:14 PM

Actually it makes no sense unless you are a religious bigot. Rick Santorum has said that states have the right to make public policy. Obama will use the federal government to push his agenda. Atleast with Rick’s view, you can move.

melle1228 on February 15, 2012 at 8:19 PM

The poll numbers simply reveal how badly the Republican brand has been damaged during the primary process. When people see that the best the party can do is put up a series of extremists, bozos and extremist bozos, they come correctly to the conclusion that republicans have nothing to offer.

The damage is real and long-term.

urban elitist on February 15, 2012 at 8:03 PM

Hmm, where have I heard bravado like that before?

Nov. 2008: “The Republican Party is dead for the next 50 years.”

Oct. 2010: “House Speaker Nancy Pelosi Sunday predicted the Democrats will keep their majority in the House”.

Nov. 2010: “Republicans net 60 House seats, 6 Senate seats and 7 governorships”

Flora Duh on February 15, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Will there be anything left if we get four more years of this train wreck?

d1carter on February 15, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Doomsday on February 15, 2012 at 8:16 PM

The country is changing fast. Gay marriage is mostly mainstream in about ten years after VT did civil unions. Marriage rates are declining fast. And now white kids are a minority for the under two year olds (not a bad thing). Santorum can make his case to the working class/middle class in a one attempt to halt Obama. However, if we don’t win in 2012, the GOP will need to look different to win in 2016. The American public has now shown it’ll vote for socialism lite.

IR-MN on February 15, 2012 at 8:21 PM

hawkdriver on February 15, 2012 at 7:58 PM

LOL! and ouch. Scares me every time.

Bmore on February 15, 2012 at 8:21 PM

After seeing the polls showing Sotero’s approval rate at 50% I’m losing faith there are enough smart people left in the USA that understand any of this.

FireBlogger on February 15, 2012 at 8:12 PM

This has less to do with Obama and more to do with the absolutely pitiful field tht the GOP has fielded. All the people who would fire up the country didn’t run.

cpaulus on February 15, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Those of you wasting time sighting all the reasons you believe this CNN poll are true … gullible … GUL-i-BULL. Boy, MMfa sure knows how to twist your knickers! D’oh!

teabone on February 15, 2012 at 8:22 PM

hawkdriver on February 15, 2012 at 7:58 PM

LOL! and ouch. Scares me every time.

Bmore on February 15, 2012 at 8:21 PM

A scanner, something. :-)

Night Bmore. Field reports when I return from R and R?

hawkdriver on February 15, 2012 at 8:23 PM

“If Santorum gets the nomination it won’t matter…you can’t lose independents, moderates and fiscal conservatives and win.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:02 PM”

Run back to Huffinton and spew your lies and distortions there. Your statement is utter nonsense, 2010 proves we have the power to take WH, Senate and hold the House. Santorum or Romney, it doesn’t matter, Obama is done as he cannot defend his record.

The people writing here are not idiots, the primary is basically a political Thunderdome and Romney started the blistering negative attacks. That sort of behavior is supposed to scare independants and moderates away or so I hear. Once the nominee is chosen the real contest will begin.

Africanus on February 15, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Anybody know the internals on any of these polls?

I mean, before we all just off ourselves, maybe we should find out whether or not someone’s fat little fingers are on the scales?

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Like Newt said, people don’t want someone else to just “manage the decline”. And that’s what Romney is offering the people.

As for what Santorum is offering…let’s not even go there.

tkyang99 on February 15, 2012 at 8:23 PM

hawkdriver on February 15, 2012 at 8:23 PM

Safe and Happy travels! Will do.

Bmore on February 15, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Will there be anything left if we get four more years of this train wreck?

d1carter on February 15, 2012 at 8:19 PM

yes. A whole lot more shovel ready jobs. but do everything you can to evict him in the meantime,

WryTrvllr on February 15, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Yep, this is the GOP. Room for anyone but a Conservative.

hawkdriver on February 15, 2012 at 8:18 PM

It is amazing that they actually quake in their boots and become chicken little at the thought of electing a devout religious person..

melle1228 on February 15, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Those of you wasting time sighting all the reasons you believe this CNN poll are true … gullible … GUL-i-BULL. Boy, MMfa sure knows how to twist your knickers! D’oh!

teabone on February 15, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Yup.

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Come fall, when normal people (not we happy few at HA) start paying attention, the MSM will make sure the choice is framed thus:

Hey Mr.& Mrs America, do you want to keep our Cool, Black (if somewhat flawed) President or do you want to replace him with one of these goofy dudes from Squaresville, with their weird-ass religion to boot?

No, we didn’t think you would either.

The smart play now is for Congress, and that’s a 50/50 proposition at best.

Sucks, don’t it?

Bruno Strozek on February 15, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Meanwhile, Fox News says O is up against everyone in a broad regional poll of swing states. Dude, I’m nervous.—AllahPundit

That is so funny and so transparent. You and your ilk attacking the only electable republican candidate and now you are pretending to be nervous. You are celebrating and the smarter of us know it.

Did you hear about the KOS kids doing an operation kaos voting for Santorum….anything to screw up Romney so he wont win the nomination and beat Obama. They know the other candidates are softballs for Obama to hit out of the park.

Rush, Levin, Palin, Ed, Allah, whomever….good job.

But, spare us the “hey guys, oh no, I think, um, um, um, Obama might actually beat Santorum.”

Holy crap thats lame and dishonest.

Jailbreak on February 15, 2012 at 8:26 PM

dom89031 on February 15, 2012 at 7:23 PM

I don’t know if you’re around, but I’ve found a few things:

This is about the caucuses who already voted, but who weren’t counted:

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/15/maine-gop-adds-missing-caucus-votes-but-wont-release-updated-vote-count/

This isn’t really anything new, just saying when they meet in March then they’ll decide.

http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/13/maine-gop-to-consider-allowing-late-caucus-votes-to-count/

List of towns. I’ve read somewhere that they’re going to go ahead and announce their results on Saturday. The ME GOP better get their act together.

http://bangordailynews.com/2012/02/15/news/14-hancock-county-towns-to-hold-gop-caucuses-saturday/

INC on February 15, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Charmer. You prove my point.

hawkdriver on February 15, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Your point being that we can lose moderates, independents and fiscal cons, as long as the evangelical base is satisfied? Your point is not well taken. Romney has done everything he could to reassure the base. They have been turned against him by the constant drumbeat of the conservative media saying that he is not a conservative, when, in fact, he is. It’s ignorance, stupidity and groupthink, as far as I can see.

Plus, if you think “knucklehead” is a big insult, you must not be reading most of the posts I’m reading.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Will there be anything left if we get four more years of this train wreck?

d1carter on February 15, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Are you joking???

Just think about the books Mark Levin will sell talking about how America is going to hell in a handbasket. He might get that 3rd home out of it.

Just think about Rush Limbo’s ratings? He may start working only 1 day a week.

Think about the Palin facebook posts that somebody writes for her. She will be so wanted with her very incisive points of view on what is wrong with the democrats.

The business of destroying the party is a lucrative business.

Jailbreak on February 15, 2012 at 8:29 PM

List of towns. I’ve read somewhere that they’re going to go ahead and announce their results on Saturday. The ME GOP better get their act together.

INC on February 15, 2012 at 8:26 PM

You mean the state that gave us Collins and Snowe….bwahaahaaahaaaa!

Doomsday on February 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Your point being that we can lose moderates, independents and fiscal cons, as long as the evangelical base is satisfied? Your point is not well taken. Romney has done everything he could to reassure the base. They have been turned against him by the constant drumbeat of the conservative media saying that he is not a conservative, when, in fact, he is. It’s ignorance, stupidity and groupthink, as far as I can see.

Plus, if you think “knucklehead” is a big insult, you must not be reading most of the posts I’m reading.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Speaking for myself, as someone who isn’t particularly thrilled by your candidate of choice it’s a little offensive when I’m alternately labeled as easily misled, ignorant, stupid, and dependent on others for my thoughts.

Stop being so arrogant and at least give people some credit for taking a principled stand based on what they believe.

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM

I believe the following is appropriate at this time:

“Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what are we going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do.” ~ Maj. Genl. US Grant

Afterseven on February 15, 2012 at 8:31 PM

“Yes, we can” — Obama 2008

“No, we didn’t, but we scroomed y’all” — Obama 2012

also

“From Diapers to Depends, ’cause I can”

Schadenfreude on February 15, 2012 at 8:32 PM

Key here: CNN poll

Yes. I’ll wait for the NewsMax/Hannity/Dick Morris poll, which I’m sure will show us the correct response.

YYZ on February 15, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Well, the problem with your position is that CNN in the past had partnered with the Gold Standard in public opinion polling, namely Gallup.

But in 2007, they mysteriously threw Gallup Under The Bus, and partnered with Vinod Gupta, a longtime Clinton Groupie.

Del Dolemonte on February 15, 2012 at 8:32 PM

I believe the following is appropriate at this time:

“Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what are we going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do.” ~ Maj. Genl. US Grant

Afterseven on February 15, 2012 at 8:31 PM

+1000000000000000000000000

Great quote.

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:32 PM

I believe the following is appropriate at this time:

“Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what are we going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do.” ~ Maj. Genl. US Grant

Afterseven on February 15, 2012 at 8:31 PM

amen

WryTrvllr on February 15, 2012 at 8:33 PM

2010 proves we have the power to take WH, Senate and hold the House. Santorum or Romney, it doesn’t matter, Obama is done as he cannot defend his record.

Puhleeze. 2010 was a very different story. In 2010, the GOP was united, energized by the Tea Party, which, at that time was focused on taxes and fiscal conservatism. Since then, the party has been split into those who believe that it will be easy to defeat Obama, and those who believe it will take every bit of unity and focus and then some to get him out.

In 2010, I attended TP rallies, worked to support GOP candidates and felt pretty optimistic about our chance in 2012. No more.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Your point being that we can lose moderates, independents and fiscal cons, as long as the evangelical base is satisfied?

I will take this one.. If we lose even fiscal cons to Obama then y’all deserve what you get. For months, I have heard social issues don’t matter in this election. Apparently that only applies if the candidate shares your social agenda. If he doesn’t, suddenly they matter immensely.

Even if you believe that Rick Santorum is a theocrat; at least he wants his positions pushed on a STATE level. Obama’s agenda is done on a FEDERAL level. It is soft religious bigotry plain and simple, and makes you all sound like you are “social issue” voters as well as cons. You would vote against your fiscal issues because a candidate doesn’t share you social issue views. Who exactly is the social issue voter here?

melle1228 on February 15, 2012 at 8:33 PM

People need to calm down. This isn’t 2008. Worst year for Republicans in decades, and McCain still got about 46%.

It’s a 50/50 country, and this election will be very close, because it’s more favorable to the R’s than 2008 was, at this point.

therightwinger on February 15, 2012 at 8:33 PM

I didn’t realize that the election was tomorrow…
… ALL IS LOST!!!
(runs screaming into the night with arms flailing away overhead)
Seven Percent Solution on February 15, 2012 at 7:05 PM

+7%
Flora Duh on February 15, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Late to the thread. You beat me to it! Nothing else to say. : )

listens2glenn on February 15, 2012 at 8:34 PM

These polls have to be B.S. Walk down the street, get a haircut, check out line at the supermarket, fill your tank, what do you hear?

Exactly.

And I’m not talking about the NYC Manhattan freaks that said “How did Bush Win, I don’t know anyone that voted for Him!”.

I’m talk about all of us real folks, even as we risk going into a City to shop.

Seriously? 50%? this has to be some kind of fraud or a joke, or else the Joke is On Us.

Who is John Galt on February 15, 2012 at 8:35 PM

CNN poll: Obama’s job approval back to 50%; Update: Obama leads all GOP candidates in swing states

We’re screwed if people don’t wake up.

rightConcept on February 15, 2012 at 8:35 PM

Well the Joker is on us, certainly, but you know what I mean.

Who is John Galt on February 15, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Reagan had the Carter economy to run against. If the economy under Obama starts heading in the right direction, it will be game over.

cd98 on February 15, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Reagan didn’t just win, though. He won 44 states. Jimmy Carter wouldn’t have won if the unemployment rate had shifted a few tenths of a percent. He would have lost less badly.

Regardless, Obama has – through his own policies – made it almost impossible for him to be saved by an economic turnaround. His refusal to expand the oil supply in favor of green boondoggles; his cash-for-clunkers housing policy; his saddling employers with Obamacare; his running the debt up well over 16 trillion by election day; the discouraged unemployed coming back to the market in an upturn and driving the U3 rate back up; and finally, the fact that much of the stock gains are in anticipation of his losing and will quickly reverse if it looks like he could win…all these things are landmines he planted for himself in his own path, that must be triggered in the course of any economic turnaround.

HitNRun on February 15, 2012 at 8:37 PM

I believe the following is appropriate at this time:

“Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what are we going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do.” ~ Maj. Genl. US Grant

Afterseven on February 15, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Wow, I really like that, thanks for sharing.

JPeterman on February 15, 2012 at 8:38 PM

I’m waiting for $5.00/gal gas this summer. That should pull some wind from his sails…

Kraken on February 15, 2012 at 8:38 PM

It is amazing that they actually quake in their boots and become chicken little at the thought of electing a devout religious person..

melle1228 on February 15, 2012 at 8:24 PM

How do we know that Gov. Romney isn’t a devoutly religious person?

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2012 at 8:38 PM

We’re screwed if people don’t wake up.

rightConcept on February 15, 2012 at 8:35 PM

why do you not trust their “news” but yet have faith in their polls?

WryTrvllr on February 15, 2012 at 8:38 PM

There won’t be anything remotely resembling a turnaround in the real world. He has dropped the bar so low anything is good.

tomas on February 15, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Stop being so arrogant and at least give people some credit for taking a principled stand based on what they believe.

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:30 PM

I am not arrogant. But I have an opinion, and I’m pretty damn sick of the people here who attack everyone who takes a stand for winning the election as the top priority right now.

That said, I don’t have a problem with taking a principled stand, as long as it is based on actual principles. But when I see people flitting from one candidate to another, not having even a clue of what they really stand for or what they have done in the past, as long as they call themselves “conservatives” and bash Romney, I have difficulty taking them seriously.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Puhleeze. 2010 was a very different story. In 2010, the GOP was united, energized by the Tea Party, which, at that time was focused on taxes and fiscal conservatism. Since then, the party has been split into those who believe that it will be easy to defeat Obama, and those who believe it will take every bit of unity and focus and then some to get him out.

In 2010, I attended TP rallies, worked to support GOP candidates and felt pretty optimistic about our chance in 2012. No more.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:33 PM

Then, sincerely, maybe you should take some time out and get your mind right. You’re dumping a lot of cold water on at least half the base right now.

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:39 PM

The Republican Party deserves to lose the Conservative base of it’s own party. I’ve left. I’ll vote for the Republican, but I learned a long time ago that Republicans only needs my vote. They don’t need me.
hawkdriver on February 15, 2012 at 8:15 PM

Yep. : (

listens2glenn on February 15, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Regardless, Obama has – through his own policies – made it almost impossible for him to be saved by an economic turnaround. His refusal to expand the oil supply in favor of green boondoggles; his cash-for-clunkers housing policy; his saddling employers with Obamacare; his running the debt up well over 16 trillion by election day; the discouraged unemployed coming back to the market in an upturn and driving the U3 rate back up; and finally, the fact that much of the stock gains are in anticipation of his losing and will quickly reverse if it looks like he could win…all these things are landmines he planted for himself in his own path, that must be triggered in the course of any economic turnaround.

HitNRun on February 15, 2012 at 8:37 PM

That one will require us to overcome all of O’bozo’s free positive press.

WryTrvllr on February 15, 2012 at 8:40 PM

How do we know that Gov. Romney isn’t a devoutly religious person?

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2012 at 8:38 PM

He probably is.. I should have said “blatant” religious person. I forgot that religion is okay with some people as long as you don’t talk about it.

melle1228 on February 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM

How do we know that Gov. Romney isn’t a devoutly religious person?

Cindy Munford on February 15, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Actually, the evidence would seem to indicate that he is. Perhaps devoted to the wrong religion in some peoples’ minds.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM

I’m waiting for $5.00/gal gas this summer. That should pull some wind from his sails…

Kraken on February 15, 2012 at 8:38 PM

Careful. This is an expectations game.

WryTrvllr on February 15, 2012 at 8:41 PM

Afterseven on February 15, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Very appropriate time. Great quote!

d1carter on February 15, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Oh for heaven’s sake, get a grip people. Gas will be $4-5 per gallon this summer. It’s already $3.85 here in upstate NY. In February. After people have escaped this mild winter with relatively low heating bills, they are going to get socked again at the pump and there is no way that Obama’s numbers don’t go south fast when that happens. This is a lull in the storm.

piglet on February 15, 2012 at 8:44 PM

I am not arrogant. But I have an opinion, and I’m pretty damn sick of the people here who attack everyone who takes a stand for winning the election as the top priority right now.

No, you are just being childish.

“Me and my libertarian fiscal conservative friends are going to pack up and vote for Obama since Santorum doesn’t share my social views.” Meh, I say..

melle1228 on February 15, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Are you joking???
Just think about the books Mark Levin will sell talking about how America is going to hell in a handbasket. He might get that 3rd home out of it.
Just think about Rush Limbo’s ratings? He may start working only 1 day a week.
Think about the Palin facebook posts that somebody writes for her. She will be so wanted with her very incisive points of view on what is wrong with the democrats.
The business of destroying the party is a lucrative business.
Jailbreak on February 15, 2012 at 8:29 PM

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That’s either stupidity,

or cynicism,

or stupid cynicism.
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Or maybe sheer jealousy?

listens2glenn on February 15, 2012 at 8:45 PM

I am not arrogant. But I have an opinion, and I’m pretty damn sick of the people here who attack everyone who takes a stand for winning the election as the top priority right now.

That said, I don’t have a problem with taking a principled stand, as long as it is based on actual principles. But when I see people flitting from one candidate to another, not having even a clue of what they really stand for or what they have done in the past, as long as they call themselves “conservatives” and bash Romney, I have difficulty taking them seriously.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:39 PM

You think calling people easily misled, ignorant, stupid, and dependent on others for their thoughts is a humble approach to a disagreement?

Look, let’s just be honest here. None of these candidates are conservative, not really. At this point, people are trying to cobble together reasons to vote for someone. They’re trying to be as faithful to their principles as possible. Be patient and let the process work.

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:45 PM

I weep for my country.

GrannyDee on February 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM

HitNRun February 15, 2012 at 8:37 PM

He’s counting on the 52% of economically-illiterate blockheads that voted for him last time, expanded by his class-warfare rhetoric and the OWS “1%” movement promulgating fear in the “independent voters” ( read wishy-washy soccers moms and other spineless ‘Americans’ ).

Scarily, he might pull it off. Heck, 2-3 months ago we were saying “Ham Sammich vs. Obama = Ham Sammich as POTUS”…haven’t heard much of that lately.

Who is John Galt on February 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM

You’re dumping a lot of cold water on at least half the base right now.

Hey, I’m just calling it as I see it. There are a lot of disillusioned conservatives like me who are being pushed out of the party by the purist faction. (Yeah, yeah, I know “You’re NOT a conservative! You are a mittbot!! Heard it before, but, by all means, continue, if you must)

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:47 PM

At this point what does a post 2012 GOP even look like?

I have trouble seeing what a lot of current GOP incumbents feel they even have to fight for. We need to get an identity as a party and this is probably why I am okay with a brokered convention at this point.

Bluray on February 15, 2012 at 8:47 PM

He’s counting on the 52% of economically-illiterate blockheads that voted for him last time, expanded by his class-warfare rhetoric and the OWS “1%” movement promulgating fear in the “independent voters” ( read wishy-washy soccers moms and other spineless ‘Americans’ ).

Scarily, he might pull it off. Heck, 2-3 months ago we were saying “Ham Sammich vs. Obama = Ham Sammich as POTUS”…haven’t heard much of that lately.

Who is John Galt on February 15, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Losing faith, from here on, is the left/msm’s raison d’etre.

WryTrvllr on February 15, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Hey, I’m just calling it as I see it. There are a lot of disillusioned conservatives like me who are being pushed out of the party by the purist faction. (Yeah, yeah, I know “You’re NOT a conservative! You are a mittbot!! Heard it before, but, by all means, continue, if you must)

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:47 PM

The socons are being pushed out too. This is working both ways right now.

Bluray on February 15, 2012 at 8:48 PM

But, spare us the “hey guys, oh no, I think, um, um, um, Obama might actually beat Santorum.”

Holy crap thats lame and dishonest.

Jailbreak on February 15, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Your birth certificate HAS to be an apology to your parents from the condom factory.

DevilsPrinciple on February 15, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Who coined the term “Scroomed”? We might be “Scroomed”.

Who is John Galt on February 15, 2012 at 8:48 PM

I have trouble seeing what a lot of current GOP incumbents feel they even have to fight for. We need to get an identity as a party and this is probably why I am okay with a brokered convention at this point.

Bluray on February 15, 2012 at 8:47 PM

+1000

melle1228 on February 15, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Look, let’s just be honest here. None of these candidates are conservative, not really. At this point, people are trying to cobble together reasons to vote for someone. They’re trying to be as faithful to their principles as possible. Be patient and let the process work.

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Fair enough.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:49 PM

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Idiot

DevilsPrinciple on February 15, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Hey, I’m just calling it as I see it. There are a lot of disillusioned conservatives like me who are being pushed out of the party by the purist faction. (Yeah, yeah, I know “You’re NOT a conservative! You are a mittbot!! Heard it before, but, by all means, continue, if you must)

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Why would it disillusion you that people are sticking to their guns? I would have been more disappointed if people had just immediately capitulated to the electability argument. It’s a great time to be a conservative. We’re really rediscovering what the term means, unearthing some of the forgotten philosophers who have loads to say about our present state of affairs…Shoot, we’re about to win by default because of the mathematical impossibility of sustaining the welfare state. The Tea Party is making strides in local and state affairs and really starting to have an effect on statewide elections. The end is not nigh.

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:51 PM

listens2glenn on February 15, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Youre an idiot. So is Glenn Beck.

Jailbreak on February 15, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Idiot

DevilsPrinciple on February 15, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Give it a rest.

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:52 PM

The longer we drag this primary out, the better it is for Obama. ::sigh::

Book on February 15, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Oh, and guys?

Cheering for the economy to nosedive so you can blame Obama isn’t exactly sound strategy, nor is it acceptable on principle.

Good Lt on February 15, 2012 at 8:53 PM

They’re trying to be as faithful to their principles as possible. Be patient and let the process work.

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Spot on !

DevilsPrinciple on February 15, 2012 at 8:53 PM

I have trouble seeing what a lot of current GOP incumbents feel they even have to fight for. We need to get an identity as a party and this is probably why I am okay with a brokered convention at this point.

Bluray on February 15, 2012 at 8:47 PM

And we should all just slit our throats now……. who listens to this cr@p????

WryTrvllr on February 15, 2012 at 8:53 PM

If the EU totally collapses, not even the MSM can sugar-coat it. You could throw Christine O’Donnell in as the GOP nominee at that point and she could win. [/light sarc]

But am I REALLY in the mood to hope for a world-wide economic depression?

Myron Falwell on February 15, 2012 at 7:07 PM

And, as evidenced by many posts here, this is where the Obama-haters have landed. They must hope the worst for the country in order to see the President lose. They relish the thought that things will get worse for the middle class and the poor and that the suffering will translate into votes for whatever crappy candidate eventually runs against Obama.

Nice. Real nice.

chumpThreads on February 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM

Puhleeze. 2010 was a very different story. In 2010, the GOP was united, energized by the Tea Party, which, at that time was focused on taxes and fiscal conservatism. Since then, the party has been split into those who believe that it will be easy to defeat Obama, and those who believe it will take every bit of unity and focus and then some to get him out.

In 2010, I attended TP rallies, worked to support GOP candidates and felt pretty optimistic about our chance in 2012. No more.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:33 PM

The thing is that intensity simply cannot be maintained for three years. People have lives to live, kids to raise, grandchildren to babysit. Some even have jobs to go to. I have no worries that this summer the great awakening will continue. This is the deep breath before the horse race.

Polls cannot register the disgust that so many Americans feel for the major players. And isn’t it interesting that the mess in Greece is somehow escaping scrutiny in the media right now? The MSM doesn’t want to do anything to remind those folks who attended the Tea Party rallies that as goes Greece goes the rest of the profligate spenders.

I remain optimistic that Americans will send Obama home in November, though if we secure the House and the Senate I can live with Obama having to play nice.

piglet on February 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM

If Obama wins this country deserves all the ruin and destruction that happens to it because of his policies and agenda. If this country is THAT STUPID….

Yakko77 on February 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM

He will win. We blew it. Face it.

djl130 on February 15, 2012 at 8:55 PM

What’s the big deal??

If the economy improves, and he does get re-elected…

He will have failed anyway. Next Pres cleans up the mess.

WryTrvllr on February 15, 2012 at 8:16 PM

One problem…the Supreme Court! If Obumbles is able the stack that for the next 30 years or so, life as we know it and want it will disappear forever.

nicefly on February 15, 2012 at 8:55 PM

Cheering for the economy to nosedive so you can blame Obama isn’t exactly sound strategy, nor is it acceptable on principle.

Good Lt on February 15, 2012 at 8:53 PM

Democrat playbook. we try not to copy it.

WryTrvllr on February 15, 2012 at 8:56 PM

I believe the following is appropriate at this time:

“Oh, I am heartily tired of hearing about what Lee is going to do. Some of you always seem to think he is suddenly going to turn a double somersault, and land in our rear and on both of our flanks at the same time. Go back to your command, and try to think what are we going to do ourselves, instead of what Lee is going to do.” ~ Maj. Genl. US Grant


Afterseven
on February 15, 2012 at 8:31 PM

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+1000000000000000000000000
Great quote.
Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:32 PM

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One of the greatest all-time quotes, in American history.

Absolutely appropriate here ! : )

listens2glenn on February 15, 2012 at 8:56 PM

And we should all just slit our throats now……. who listens to this cr@p????

WryTrvllr on February 15, 2012 at 8:53 PM

So does our party have an identity crisis or not?

Are we a Ficon party, a Socon party, a libertarian party, what are we, because if we lose to Obama in 2012, or look like we are going to, we need to figure out how to politically fight during his 2nd term.

Bluray on February 15, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Ok, now I feel like one of those Occupy idiots.

PEEEEECEFULLLLLLLLL PEEEEEEEEEECEFULLLLLLLL

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 8:56 PM

One problem…the Supreme Court! If Obumbles is able the stack that for the next 30 years or so, life as we know it and want it will disappear forever.

nicefly on February 15, 2012 at 8:55 PM

You underestimate yourself.

WryTrvllr on February 15, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Dayumn. Bmore got three trolls to fall under the axe. I saw something that borntoraise hogs had said, thought it looked a little squeamish, at least for AP’s tastes. Apparently, it was. Most trolls I got banned in 1 day is …well, 1. Bleeds Blue

and he still gone. I coaxed him to pull the pin on a hand grenade and dadgum it if he didn’t do it.

ted c on February 15, 2012 at 8:57 PM

And this primary process has shown the people what kind of party the GOP is…

They saw a party whose establishment is quite happy to tar and feather one of their own conservative “heroes” (Newt) just so “their guy” can win.

Why would the people want these slimeballs to run the country?

The GOP is dead.

tkyang99 on February 15, 2012 at 8:57 PM

Meh, I say..

melle1228 on February 15, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Well, since I specifically have said (over and over again, in fact) that I will vote for whoever the GOP nominee is, I don’t quite get your point. But, yeah, I say “meh” too – we can both say it ;)

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:58 PM

“Puhleeze. 2010 was a very different story. In 2010, I attended TP rallies, worked to support GOP candidates and felt pretty optimistic about our chance in 2012. No more.

Priscilla on February 15, 2012 at 8:33 PM”

How is it different and what were you doing at the Tea Parties? Were you taking down names so the Obama Truth Teams know who to target? I get bored with the loser talk, anyone telling me we will lose moderates and independants if we don’t choose so and so are the people responsible for getting Obama elected.

You can have your opinion, but you sound like the enemy! This coming from a guy who will support Mitt if he wins. Moderates and independants never seem to run from Democrats insane spending, corruption, lies or overreach. Why would they bother with Democrat-lite when they can have the real thing! I don’t even like Santorum, but if he wins, we fight for it tooth and nail.

If your not in the fight to win, sit on the bench and STFU!

Africanus on February 15, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Are we a Ficon party, a Socon party, a libertarian party…

Bluray on February 15, 2012 at 8:56 PM

Yes.

Fiscal conservatives can stay as long as they can stop speaking Wonk and start speaking American.

Social conservatives can stay as long as they recognize that the state usually isn’t the best tool for social change.

Libertarians can stay until the weed is gone.

Seriously, we don’t have to pick any one of these options. We just have to learn how to respect one another.

Nom de Boom on February 15, 2012 at 9:00 PM

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