Hey, how about a “Jeb Bush vs. Palin” brokered convention?

posted at 9:57 pm on February 13, 2012 by Allahpundit

I know, I know. It’s not going to happen. But you can’t throw traffic bait this sweet at me and not expect it to be posted. When I saw it, my eyes lit up like a hitter sitting on a 3-0 count with the bases loaded watching a lollypop curveball start to break.

Think of the storylines. Establishment vs. grassroots. Dynastic blue bloods vs. self-made middle-class populist. Third Bush nominee vs. first woman nominee. It would be the greatest blog story ever. It would also tear the party into thousands of pieces, but never mind that.

Greatest blog story ever.

Santorum’s contraception boom — “We’re all Catholics now,” said Mike Huckabee — won’t hold up. Because we’re not. This race could well go to a brokered convention. If Jeb Bush is proposed, so Sarah Palin should be minutes later. She is now and always has been the singular Jacksonian voice in the original Tea Party phenomenon; the only one who can bring it to the mainstream. Her absence from the primary race has left a vacuum and no substitute has been found. Every other possible or potential leadership hopeful has risen and receded in this long Republican primary season…

Perry won [the Texas gubernatorial race] in a landslide. But why would the Bush establishment pull out all the stops to support Hutchison, who was sure to lose? Because they saw a new conservative movement building with Perry and Palin and were determined early on to stamp it out. They still are.

Bush/Christie or Christie/ Bush as “establishment” representation is bound to bring muffled chuckles (“Hey Abbott!!!”) and Obama would win in a landslide. But Bush/Christie vs. Sarah Palin/Rick Perry positions coming head to head at the Republican Convention would pit the storied worlds of Dexter and Paulie Walnuts; the most notoriously corrupt, burned-out, busted-up, used-up, dangerous, underwater and broke Eastern states, against the new, independent, states-oriented, freedom-seeking constitutional conservatives like Palin of the Western states, Texas and Alaska. Now that would be interesting.

If the convention did deadlock on the first ballot and some establishment favorite emerged as the knight in shining armor — Daniels, Bush, Christie — would a populist favorite jump in as an alternative? If so, who? Remember, if we got to that point, the party would be in a white-knuckle panic that its nominee would be fatally weakened against Obama in the general. Electability, or perceived electability, would be prized then even more than it is now as a way to overcome the chaos of the convention and the fact that the nominee would be starting with little or no organization. That gives the establishment candidate a heavy advantage, especially if he can entice populist-minded delegates by naming a grassroots hero (like Rubio, say) as VP in advance. The only option I can see that might make it interesting is if the populist alternative somehow got Rand Paul to agree to be on the ticket with him/her. That would lock up Ron Paul’s delegates and would give the populist ticket an element of viability that might get Santorum’s and Gingrich’s delegates to take a second look. Can’t wait.


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Sarah Palin / Rand Paul interesting- Jeb Bush – insane.

8-track-vinyl on February 14, 2012 at 9:02 AM

If this were to happen (Palin or Bush)then we better be ready for 4 more years of Obama! I know I won’t vote for either of them.

lhuffman34 on February 14, 2012 at 8:44 AM

I`ll never understand this logic, you might as well go and cast your ballot for 0bama then…smh

NY Conservative on February 14, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Sammo21 on February 14, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Your slip is showing.

Teh Fred did not jump the gun like losers Mitt and Huck did. So far as timing goes, he chose to respect the American tradition to not ruin the Thanksgiving and Christmas seasons with political bile just because Obama did. Btw, how are you enjoying the never ending campaign mode that has become the norm, no thanks to minds so dumb as to encourage it. So far as enthusiasm is concerned, Fred brought plenty of fire to the debates, and shot down MANDATE PURCHASE as well as those GOP candidates who chose to stay stuck on stupid with the moderator. Fred enjoyed enthusiastic support because Thompson’s platform was to refine the Republican Agenda to be based upon constitutional FIRST PRINCIPLES, and to coalesce the Republican Leadership into an effective Republican Congress. Thompson campaigned hard against the outright media bias, against the status quo, against false propaganda.

That you only noticed and recall false propaganda isn’t simply your own problem, though that limitation would be preferable. But do yourself a favor and go figure before slamming Fred Thompson’s influence on the Republican presidential platform. His supporters are active voters who participated in the Tea Party ’10 movement, and aren’t granting neoconservative authoritarianism carte blanche.

maverick muse on February 14, 2012 at 9:07 AM

I barely even need to read Palin threads anymore.

Aitch748 on February 14, 2012 at 8:27 AM

I stopped a while ago. The romneybots are worse than the liberals.

gh on February 14, 2012 at 9:13 AM

I know, I know. It’s not going to happen.

Really, this article should have ended with the above quote. Nothing more need be said.

rogaineguy on February 14, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Sarah Palin/Rick Perry 2012!!!

AH_C on February 14, 2012 at 9:19 AM

I know I won’t vote for either of them.

lhuffman34 on February 14, 2012 at 8:44 AM

If you’ve allowed the MSM and those threatened in the GOP to color your opinion of Governor Palin, give this site a whirl. It’s Governor Palin, in her own words.

Fallon on February 14, 2012 at 9:20 AM

No Bush

Wade on February 14, 2012 at 9:23 AM

If there is a brokered convention then Ron Paul is going to get the nomination. He will have the delegates

dom89031 on February 14, 2012 at 9:24 AM

This is why Palin wants the primary to last as long as possible. To stay in the news. Palin’s political career is over.

joana on February 14, 2012 at 9:28 AM

joana on February 14, 2012 at 9:28 AM

And yet, she was asked to be the keynote speaker at CPAC where they had to open three overflow rooms to house the huge crowd.

You sound silly spewing this nonsense, joana. Try to deal with your irrational dislike of this strong, relevant, conservative woman. It really wouldn’t kill you to say a kind word or two about Governor Palin.

Fallon on February 14, 2012 at 9:36 AM

But Bush/Christie vs. Sarah Palin/Rick Perry positions coming head to head at the Republican Convention would pit the storied worlds of Dexter and Paulie Walnuts; the most notoriously corrupt, burned-out, busted-up, used-up, dangerous, underwater and broke Eastern states, against the new, independent, states-oriented, freedom-seeking constitutional conservatives like Palin of the Western states, Texas and Alaska. Now that would be interesting.

I’m in, let’s do this thang ;)

Dr Evil on February 14, 2012 at 9:38 AM

I`ll never understand this logic, you might as well go and cast your ballot for

If we had a dollar every time “you might as well go and” advise revised a premise, we’d all be rich.

Consider well “logic”. If you do not understand something, then refrain from jumping to a conclusion, and from that point telling the person you fail to understand what they may as well go do and have.

I’m merely thinking through “logic” but not arguing in defense of any premise beyond constitutional integrity.

Before repairing what is wrong, one must know what is right. Truth being a two-edged sword maintains its own clarity. That we mortals allow our judgement to be clouded, to promote revisionism of the authentic is our bane.

I’ll maintain that for structural integrity, build the platform FIRST on bedrock. There is no wisdom otherwise, to conduct a beauty pageant (itself distractive show), declare a winner based upon decisions that money buys (corruption), and then fabricate from whole cloth a mutating foundation to perpetuate the permeation of government corruption. That IS the status quo. That ONLY allows more of the same insult to injury directed against ourselves.

The Republican Leadership has failed to outline its own agenda for voters, and perpetually fails to refine and achieve legislation to limit and destroy corrupt opportunism in government. Those candidates running with the “blessing” of these party insiders will advance more political and economic corruption, more deprivations and atrocities against Americans.

The maxim of modernity is abbreviation.
Trust but Verify

maverick muse on February 14, 2012 at 9:39 AM

I have waited through this entire process for a strong candidate to step up and challenge Obama. Challenge the entire progressive movement. Instead we have recycled candidates with splintered support that people can’t rally around. What a disgrace. After what the Democrats have done in congress the first two years of this cycle and what Obama has done in four, one would think the best and brightest would step up. Instead we have the prospect of four more years of Obama turning us into a second class country for the sake of his views on social justice and global equality. The prospect of a Congress rendered impotent by special interests playing both sides against the middle just makes it more depressing. No wonder we get blog posts about brokered conventions.

jumptheshark on February 14, 2012 at 9:39 AM

Out: Arab Spring
In: Palin Spring

faraway on February 14, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Dr Evil on February 14, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Excellent point.

However, the Northeastern corporatist global investment industry would not permit a different outcome revisiting a War Between the States.

maverick muse on February 14, 2012 at 9:44 AM

faraway on February 14, 2012 at 9:40 AM

For every million tax dollars mentioned, consider the billions actually spent.

Of Obama’s Arab Spring, you saw that more tax funds are being directed to advance Muslim Wahhabi and al Qaeda radicals to control Islam while the globalist bankers (Federal Reserve, World Bank, IMF) usurp the central banks of the Middle Eastern nations being destroyed. Bail-outs for the anti-American revolutionaries to buy Jihad too big to fail exemplifies the insane convolution of our current American Foreign and Economic Policy.

maverick muse on February 14, 2012 at 9:51 AM

It would tear the party into thousands of pieces,

Thelma and Loise…here we come!

lynncgb on February 14, 2012 at 9:56 AM

What should have been the biggest margins of defeat for a contemporary incumbent Democrat President will now become one of the worst drubbings of a Republican candidate in memory.

Brokered convention? Santorum? Palin? Jeb Bush? Who really believes those names will play well with other groups beyond a insular cabal of so-called Conservative Republicans and pundits that seem to portray they have some special knowledge of who the right candidate for America is?

This process has gone way beyond fratricide and into the arena of contra-intellectualism that simply boggles the mind. People simply don’t get the fact our eventual opponent is not in the primary, but the General election. To beat Obama, you need a message, principles, capabilities and actionable, plausible plans which can be intimated to a larger cross-section of the electorate.

Candidates such as Santorum do not transcend any of the aforementioned qualities and will therefore not gain traction with other voting groups necessary to beat Obama. But at least the real conservative will win the Republican primary. Because we all know that self-serving appearances are as equally important as winning the Presidency.

Unless Republicans learn to co-opt Democrat strategies such as gradualism, a very long period of irrelevancy is right around the corner IMHO.

Marcus Traianus on February 14, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Bush over Palin – it’s like the NFL and little league.

gatorboy on February 14, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Dr Evil on February 14, 2012 at 9:38 AM

Excellent point.

However, the Northeastern corporatist global investment industry would not permit a different outcome revisiting a War Between the States.

maverick muse on February 14, 2012 at 9:44 AM

I know, but it doesn’t mean we shouldn’t go full bore populist on their A$$es :)

Dr Evil on February 14, 2012 at 10:00 AM

gatorboy on February 14, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Nah, Mama Grizzly trumps Bush Leaguer, lol.

Fallon on February 14, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Bush over Palin – it’s like the NFL and little league.

gatorboy on February 14, 2012 at 9:59 AM

I agree. Bush wouldn’t stand a chance.

Irritable Pundit on February 14, 2012 at 10:10 AM

We don’t need another Bush aka: compasionate conservative, RINO in office!

vietvet68 on February 14, 2012 at 10:17 AM

I could see a Palin/Bush ticket. After all, Palin is a staunch conservative as was Reagan. Palin is n anti-establishment conservative as was Reagan. Bush is an establishment republican as was GHWBush. The only way the establishment rs would accept a Reagan Presidency was if he took on a estab R running mate.

COuld very well work.

and I’d throw money at them too.

44Magnum on February 14, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Marcus Traianus on February 14, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Nice to see a voice of reason. Enjoyed the post.

lynncgb on February 14, 2012 at 10:26 AM

This is why Palin wants the primary to last as long as possible. To stay in the news. Palin’s political career is over.

joana on February 14, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Palin said tonight on “Sean Hannity” that she wants to see the race continue because “iron sharpens iron, steel sharpens steel.”

“These guys are getting better in their debates, they are getting more concise, they’re getting more grounded in what their beliefs are and articulating what their ideas are to getting the country back on the right track and getting Americans working again,” Palin said.

[...]

“If I had to vote in South Carolina, in order to keep this thing going I’d vote for Newt and I would want this to continue,” Palin said. “More debates, more vetting of candidates because we know the mistake made in our country four years ago was having a candidate that was not vetted, to the degree that he should have been so that we knew what his associations and his pals represented and what went into his thinking, the shaping of who our president today is.”

“I hope to become our nominee, but I am not clairvoyant,” Romney says. “At this stage, it’s hard to know precisely how the political landscape will change over the coming weeks and months.” But as the Super Tuesday vote on March 6 draws near, Romney feels “very good” about his prospects. He predicts that his organization and his “clear message” will enable him “to go the distance.”

[...]

“It would be nice if races were focused on people’s vision for the future,” Romney says. “But I happen to believe that the contrasts that are being spoken of today will be spoken of in a much louder voice by the Obama team. So, in some respects, it’s a good thing to get them out there and cleared up.” A rigorous primary, he says, can be healthy.

Spin it joana, spin it.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 10:28 AM

If there is a brokered convention then Ron Paul is going to get the nomination. He will have the delegates

dom89031 on February 14, 2012 at 9:24 AM

I’ve really got to get some of whatever it is that these guys smoke.

trigon on February 14, 2012 at 10:33 AM

I know, I know. It’s not going to happen. But you can’t throw traffic bait this sweet at me and not expect it to be posted. When I saw it, my eyes lit up like a hitter sitting on a 3-0 count with the bases loaded watching a lollypop curveball start to break.

With a crazy idea like this, the hitter should let the lollypop curve break out of the strike zone, and walk in a run. Maybe with a Romney / Santorum ticket!

Steve Z on February 14, 2012 at 10:37 AM

To beat Obama, you need a message, principles, capabilities and actionable, plausible plans which can be intimated to a larger cross-section of the electorate.

Marcus Traianus on February 14, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Who would you recommend?

Kataklysmic on February 14, 2012 at 10:42 AM

This process has gone way beyond fratricide and into the arena of contra-intellectualism that simply boggles the mind. People simply don’t get the fact our eventual opponent is not in the primary, but the General election. To beat Obama, you need a message, principles, capabilities and actionable, plausible plans which can be intimated to a larger cross-section of the electorate.

Candidates such as Santorum do not transcend any of the aforementioned qualities and will therefore not gain traction with other voting groups necessary to beat Obama. But at least the real conservative will win the Republican primary. Because we all know that self-serving appearances are as equally important as winning the Presidency.

Unless Republicans learn to co-opt Democrat strategies such as gradualism, a very long period of irrelevancy is right around the corner IMHO.

Marcus Traianus on February 14, 2012 at 9:58 AM

So true. The Republican party has been fracturing for some time. Even on a very conservative blog site such as Hot Air-there are people who would rather vote for Obama than attempt to defeat him if their chosen candidate is not the nominee. And none of the people they are willing to do this for are ideal candidates! It seems like Obama and the media have won the first battle of keeping high caliber candidates from entering the Republican primary. I can’t see any name that has been suggested as coming out of a brokered convention having a much better chance to win than the current candidates-all of whom have significant weaknesses. If there was a candidate that the media might attack less- which might be Romney, the Republican might have a chance. I just think the nominee from a brokered convention will get Palinized, and Obama will be re-elected.

talkingpoints on February 14, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Palin couldn’t win an election in Alaska.

Moesart on February 14, 2012 at 11:00 AM

First off, On a 3-0 count the pitcher is likely NOT going to be throwing a hanging curve as he has already shown he cannot even “hit” the strike zone…so look for the straight fastball.

g2825m on February 14, 2012 at 5:48 AM

Generically true, but pitchers don’t usually want to just send a watermelon down Main St., so very often a backdoor slider is called for as a 3-0 pitch. It’s a steady pitch for hitting the strike zone, and it has movement, so most hitters (who won’t be looking to swing 3-0 anway) will spit on it, taking a strike. But if it happens to be released wrongly, and come up there as a hanger, it’s going to make a very rapid u-turn into the seats.

Freelancer on February 14, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Does anyone who is egging Palin’s Operation Chaos on deny that this is in her own self-interest? Is it in the country’s interest? Explain how a brokered convention (which she is specifically advocating) helps the GOP defeat the Marxist in the White House. As I asked yesterday at another thread:

Election Day is Tuesday, November 6th. Our Convention is on August 27th. How the hell do we consolidate and marshal our forces and dollars to defeat Obama in 11 short weeks, while he is out there campaigning and raising funds every day? I can’t help but believe this is nothing short of delusional…

Paul Ryan just told us we are 2-3 years away from facing the debt default which has Greeks rioting in the streets. In other words it will occur in Obama’s next administration if he is re-elected. Or we can forestall it by electing a Republican. We need to begin consolidating within the next few months. We cannot wait until the end of August!

And may I say that Palin, for all her gifts as a politician, has no track record whatsoever as an effective party strategist who knows how to win national elections, state by state. Seriously, what are her credentials here?! In contrast, the eeevil Karl Rove knows w.t.h. he’s doing. Even if Palin has no designs on being the chosen one (which is hard to believe), this “rage against the machine” strategy of creating chaos and disunity is disastrous. Any one of our current field can be trusted to remedy our disastrous debt situation. Risking it all just so conservatives can vent their populist fury is nothing short of reckless.

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Palin couldn’t win an election in Alaska.

Moesart on February 14, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Deranged Mittwit…LOL

idesign on February 14, 2012 at 11:11 AM

If there was a candidate that the media might attack less- which might be Romney, the Republican might have a chance. I just think the nominee from a brokered convention will get Palinized, and Obama will be re-elected.

talkingpoints on February 14, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Romney has been attacked less by the media for a very clear reason. They see him as McCain 2012. The moment a Romney nomination is completed, the media will unleash on him as they did McCain in 2008. Your other invalid premise is imagining a scenario where ANY Republican nominee is NOT going to be Palinized from the end of the convention to the day they stop recounting ballots in December (or January, or February). Since that can be a reasonably presumed outcome, the most viable person would really be someone who has already been Palinized.

24,000 emails, and no scandal found, other than the media trying to co-opt the work of private citizens to help them find a scandal in 24,000 emails.

Freelancer on February 14, 2012 at 11:13 AM

What should have been the biggest margins of defeat for a contemporary incumbent Democrat President will now become one of the worst drubbings of a Republican candidate in memory.

……

Unless Republicans learn to co-opt Democrat strategies such as gradualism, a very long period of irrelevancy is right around the corner IMHO.

Marcus Traianus on February 14, 2012 at 9:58 AM

We are over 8 months away from the general election and you can already see the outcome?

In Presidential politics, a month is a lifetime and over 6 months is forever.

Followed by the advice that the only path to ‘relevancy’ is to copy the opponents’ methods.

What an amazingly defeatist attitude you are projecting.

PolAgnostic on February 14, 2012 at 11:26 AM

BDs head explodes every time Palin is mentioned.

The romneybots are worse than the liberals.

gh on February 14, 2012 at 9:13 AM

Yep

SparkPlug on February 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM

BDs head explodes every time Palin is mentioned.

The romneybots are worse than the liberals.
gh on February 14, 2012 at 9:13 AM
Yep
SparkPlug on February 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Wow. You provide such scintillating commentary! It’s hard to compete in the face of such brilliance and wit./

Is it too much to ask you all to make a valiant attempt to take on my arguments instead of merely littering the page with bird droppings? If you think it’s oh so terrific to have a brokered convention with no time to take on Obama, state your fracking case. Are you up to the challenge?

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM

SparkPlug on February 14, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Irrational jealousy of an attractive, confident, successful and accomplished wife, mother, businesswoman and politician, is quite often found among women.

Though most puzzling, it is an ugly trait most commonly displayed by liberal women.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 12:04 PM

If the establishment controls everything like you say, why would a brokered convention be a good idea? They would just install Mitt as the nominee. If you think that somehow they will vote Palin or Perry you are engaging in mental gymnastics.

antisense on February 14, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Irrational jealousy of an attractive, confident, successful and accomplished wife, mother, businesswoman and politician, is quite often found among women.

Though most puzzling, it is an ugly trait most commonly displayed by liberal women.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 12:04 PM

You have no idea what you are talking about. Jealousy cuts across all categories, as TruConservaties jealousy of those making lots of money in the financial world shows.

I never found her all that attractive either. But then again, politics is Hollywood for ugly people.

antisense on February 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM

If it comes down to a brokered convention there is a good chance it will be Paul. He’s been working on this as a contingency from the start, and he’s already laid the ground work.

DFCtomm on February 14, 2012 at 12:12 PM

I never found her all that attractive either. But then again, politics is Hollywood for ugly people.

antisense on February 14, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I can see you turning green from my house..:)

idesign on February 14, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Bmore, you out there?

J.E. Dyer on February 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM

I can see you turning green from my house hut..:)

idesign on February 14, 2012 at 12:17 PM

antisense on February 14, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Put me down in favor. This idea has no downsides.

Citizen-003528 on February 14, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Why not? The GOP can’t possibly make a bigger fool out of itself than it already has pre-election.

MelonCollie on February 14, 2012 at 12:40 PM

Unreal. Flora DUH is using the “jealousy” argument to explain away my legitimate issues with Sarah Palinksy. Surely there must be a blog better suited to the emotional and mental capacities of commenters like this. Romper Room perhaps?

There is no more juvenile use of an ad hominem argument than to suggest someone must be unattractive and jealous as the way to explain away political differences argued in good faith. Why do I say that? It is impossible for the anonymous commenter (in this case me!) to prove that I am every bit as attractive a “wife and mother” as Palin (if not more so!). Am I a politician like she is? Wow! You got me there! Indeed, using DUH’s idiotic tactics, I could point out that fat people are among those seen at Palin’s rallies and declare that proves DUH must be a fat slob.

But hey, it doesn’t surprise me too much that DUH used a bimbo’s tactics since DUH also accused another commenter of wanting to assassinate Palin. I’m starting to see a trend…

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 12:53 PM

But hey, it doesn’t surprise me too much that DUH used a bimbo’s tactics since DUH also accused another commenter of wanting to assassinate Palin. I’m starting to see a trend…

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 12:53 PM

Your Palin obsession is unhealthy……

Rather than attack Palin and her supporters, you might want to persuade others why you think Romney shoud be President.

idesign on February 14, 2012 at 1:02 PM

should

idesign on February 14, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Hey SparkPlug, I don’t recall mentioning any names in my response to you. Did you see them?

Most rational people would have scrolled right by the comment without feeling the need to offer a denial, IF, my observation didn’t apply to them.

But then, I did say most rational people.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Your Palin obsession is unhealthy……

Rather than attack Palin and her supporters, you might want to persuade others why you think Romney shoud be President.

idesign on February 14, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Listen up, you fracking dunce. I did not attack Palin’s supporters. I responded to their idiotic, childish personal attacks against me.

I am not in their/your mutual adoration society so they/you lash out like children when ever is heard a discouraging word. Maybe you all could emulate Obama and start a TRUTH SQUAD where you can snitch on me every time I make a point you can’t argue against on the merits.

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Palin is the best example I can think of to demonstrate the media’s ability to form opinion. Most of the Palin supporters support her because they have done their homework. They don’t rely on what the media chooses to tell them. They don’t rely on sound bytes. They listen to the entirety of her statements. They know that the Charlie Gibson interview was not only heavily edited, but spliced in such a way to mislead the viewer. They know that the Couric interview showed an edited 20 minutes of over six hours of tape. They know that prior to the interview, Couric sought counsel from Anti-Palin advisors. Palin’s detractors here and elsewhere rely on memes that have been debunked numerous times. The Dems recognized that Palin needed to be destroyed. Anita Dunn, having worked with and against Palin in AK, warned Obama that she was a force to be reckoned with. Pete Rouse, Obama’s CoS, told them that Palin should be destroyed. Their plan was to belittle her in any way they could and to not allow her to return to AK unscathed. Their plan was not to allow her to continue to grow her creds.

The Palin criticized here and by those who spread untruths is the product of the media. Many of you here who continue to use these memes as if they are truthful, show yourselves as the lying idiots that you are.

NoNails on February 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Hey SparkPlug, I don’t recall mentioning any names in my response to you. Did you see them?

Most rational people would have scrolled right by the comment without feeling the need to offer a denial, IF, my observation didn’t apply to them.

But then, I did say most rational people.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Gee golly, I can’t imagine how I happened to think you were talking about me. SparkPlug made a comment about me. You responded to that comment. How utterly irrational of me to draw such an inference!

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:15 PM

The Palin criticized here and by those who spread untruths is the product of the media. Many of you here who continue to use these memes as if they are truthful, show yourselves as the lying idiots that you are.
NoNails on February 14, 2012 at 1:13 PM

What “untruth” is being spread?

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Listen up, you fracking dunce. I did not attack Palin’s supporters. I responded to their idiotic, childish personal attacks against me.

I am not in their/your mutual adoration society so they/you lash out like children when ever is heard a discouraging word. Maybe you all could emulate Obama and start a TRUTH SQUAD where you can snitch on me every time I make a point you can’t argue against on the merits.

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:11 PM

You have always attacked Palin’s supporters, so please don’t play the victim. Her supporters respond to your inane comments, nothing more and nothing less. Regarding Palin, you have been and probably will always be a purveyor of lies meant to belittle her and her supporters. In this regard, you are no better than a kos kid.

NoNails on February 14, 2012 at 1:17 PM

What “untruth” is being spread?

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:17 PM

You’re kidding, right? The list would be far longer than I wish to take the time to write. You’ve never shown any interest in truth when it comes to Palin, so I certainly won’t waste my time explaining it to you.

NoNails on February 14, 2012 at 1:20 PM

NoNails on February 14, 2012 at 1:17 PM

I am not “playing the victim”, child. I made two comments at this thread about Palin. One snarky about using her PAC to pay for her kids’ vacation (something she did in fact do). The second comment was about the dangers involved by her promoting a brokered convention, which she is in fact doing. Not a single one of you toddlers responded to that.

Now, one last time: What untruths are being told? I do hope that’s not too difficult a question for you.

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:23 PM

NoNails on February 14, 2012 at 1:20 PM

What untruths are being told here, today, at this blog thread. Name one.

Thanks in advance…

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Listen up, you fracking dunce. I did not attack Palin’s supporters

The irony….LOL

idesign on February 14, 2012 at 1:30 PM

The second comment was about the dangers involved by her promoting a brokered convention, which she is in fact doing. Not a single one of you toddlers responded to that.

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Maybe if you’d bother to read before opening your trap, you wouldn’t end up looking like a fool so often.

After the bullchit we’ve been through this primary season, if my candidate is still in the race at the time of the convention, and it ends up being brokered, I’m going to be really pissed.

Even if it is Palin against anyone.

Flora Duh on February 13, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:23 PM,
You jumped the shark Romneybot. Your PAC comment is absurd and frankly a brokered convention is better than the 4 losers in the race right now, 2 of which I would never vote for. Most of the republicans would take what’s in the box over these 4 candidates. I hope Newt and Santorum take it the distance so Romney is loses on a draw.

CoolChange80 on February 14, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:11 PM,
Take a look yourself. You are heading toward kook territory with Jailbreak, csdeven, Chudi, GO RBNY, and Moesart. Don’t go off the cliff like those crazies.

CoolChange80 on February 14, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Ooookay. I missed your comment out of thousands of comments because…hold on for this…I wasn’t here last night. You are here today. I’m here today. You didn’t respond to my comment but chose instead to launch into a bimboesque personal attack on me (which you pathetically claim was not the case).

Who is the “fool” again?

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Who is the “fool” again?

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM

DUH also accused another commenter of wanting to assassinate Palin.

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 12:53 PM

PROVE IT!

And I’m not talking about your subterfuge, or backtracking, or what you think I said.

Show word for word where I “accused another commenter of wanting to assassinate Palin”, or STFU and go back to Daily Kos or DU, where they welcome and encourage your type of lies and hyperbole.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:23 PM,
You jumped the shark Romneybot. Your PAC comment is absurd and frankly a brokered convention is better than the 4 losers in the race right now, 2 of which I would never vote for. Most of the republicans would take what’s in the box over these 4 candidates. I hope Newt and Santorum take it the distance so Romney is loses on a draw.
CoolChange80 on February 14, 2012 at 1:33 PM

Hey! We’re making progress! Someone is actually responding to what I said, not the mere fact I dared say something.

My PAC comment was not “absurdS. She herself said her trip was a “family vacation”. That vacation was funded by SarahPAC. It is not unreasonable for me to wonder what her plans are for Spring break.

As for your reasoning about a brokered convention, you do not address the problem with having so little time to take on Obama. Nor have you offered an opinion as to whether Palin is motivated by her own interests. You have provided nothing substantive – just a surfeit of rage and the sad assertion that you won’t vote if the nominee isn’t amongst your 2 preferred choices.

Time for you to be Breitbarted:

I will march behind whoever our candidate is because if we don’t we lose. There are two paths: One is America, and the other one is Occupy. One is America, the other one is Occupy. I don’t care…
…Anyone who’s willing to stand next to me and fight the Progressive Left, I will be in that bunker, and if you’re not in that bunker because you’re not satisfied with this candidate, more than shame on you, you’re on the other side.

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 1:47 PM

Sorry. Correction: You accused csdeven of being among those whose creeps whose tweets were collected at YouTube because each tweet had the theme that Palin should be assassinated/shot/killed. You asked, “Which one of them is you”?

Just apologize for this, okay?

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 2:01 PM

In a Word: NO

AnnaS on February 14, 2012 at 2:05 PM

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Who is the “fool” again?

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM

btw, I don’t owe you an apology for anything. I would suggest you don’t hold your breath waiting for it, but knowing the way you operate, you’d twist it into an accusation that I told you to off yourself or something.

Now if you’ll excuse me, I have something to do that’s just as smelly but more important to do than read your drivel.

Clean the cat’s litter box.

TTFG

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Flor Duh’s accusatory post in its entirety:

csdeven on February 12, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Hey, I asked you twice last night but you never answered me. Come on, proudly tell us which one of these are yours.

Flora Duh on February 12, 2012 at 9:42 AM

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 2:12 PM

You don’t owe me an apology! You owe csdeven an apology. As much of a jerk as he can be, that is no excuse for your attempt to link him to that group. Honestly, it’s shocking to me that you can do to him what was done to Palin and not see how wrong that is.

Time to eat some humble pie and get on with it..

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 2:19 PM

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 2:19 PM

csdeven and I exchanged several civil comments yesterday about a broken clock. He/she didn’t mention anything about my previous posts or demand an apology. Because like I said in the other thread, csdeven was savvy enough to understand the point I was making.

Maybe it’s time for you to stop being such a know-it-all liberal-like busybody, do a bit more catching up on what’s already been said in threads before inserting your foot in your mouth, learn the difference between facts and opinions and…

…get on with it.

Oh, and as you so civilly said to me on the other thread – GFY!

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 2:30 PM

I am not “playing the victim”, child. I made two comments at this thread about Palin. One snarky about using her PAC to pay for her kids’ vacation (something she did in fact do). The second comment was about the dangers involved by her promoting a brokered convention, which she is in fact doing. Not a single one of you toddlers responded to that.

Now, one last time: What untruths are being told? I do hope that’s not too difficult a question for you.

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 1:23 PM

You keep lying that she is promoting a brokered convention. She was asked in an interview about a brokered convention, and she responded that it wouldn’t be a negative thing. The fact that you claim that defines “promoting a brokered convention” is dishonest. What Palin has promoted is a contest that doesn’t coronate a winner after three, four, or five primaries/caucuses. She is of the opinion that honest debate during the nomination process does not hurt the party. I agree with her. As a matter of fact, honest debate not only gives each candidate the chance to differentiate themselves from their competitors, it gives them the opportunity to differentiate themselves from Obama. It also gives them the opportunity to cut through the crap promoted by the media and/or their competitors.

As far as the untruths, I gave you one example here, but they are numerous. I won’t give you a pass by limiting the examples within this thread. You and other Palin detractors here at HA have lied about her for the last two years or more. Maybe some of those lies are just products of ignorance, but they’re lies none the less.

NoNails on February 14, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Day-Old Danish is dried out.

steebo77 on February 14, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Are you sure he saw what you did? If you’ve been civil to him that’s a nice first step. You should also apologize, and to say that does not make me a “liberal”.

As for GFY, it means “Good For You!”. Your attempt to play the role of the poor put-upon innocent is incredibly annoying and tiresome.

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM

As for GFY, it means “Good For You!”. Your attempt to play the role of the poor put-upon innocent is incredibly annoying and tiresome.

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 2:49 PM

You know, if it wasn’t so pathetic to witness, watching you twist in the wind could be slightly amusing.

Hold on, because I’m ready to shout at the top of my lungs.

GFY! My comments were in reference to her veiled allegations about our GOP FIELD. I never claimed she didn’t discuss the fracking topic of cronyism in general terms elsewhere in the speech.

[...]

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 3:01 PM

GFY has more than one meaning. One of them is “good for you”. Oh, and you deserved to be shouted at.

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Oh, and you deserved to be shouted at.

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 3:14 PM

And you deserve to be first ridiculed, then ignored.

I’ve already accomplished the first step.

I’ll now move on to the second.

Flora Duh on February 14, 2012 at 3:20 PM

I’m 76 years old. I’ve been voting for 55 years .In all that time only 3 people have enthused me ,other than voting for the lesser of two evils . My first vote JFK ,second Bill Clinton and third Sarah Palin . Now I’m an old fart but check the economic views of those three. I like Sarah’s views as Governor of Alaska.If we let this lady go off the political scene, I don’t know when we’ll get another person like her who owns no one, & will clean up the mess.

P Bonz on February 14, 2012 at 3:48 PM

If another Bush makes it to the nomination, you can kiss the Republican Party goodbye. You have to be nuts to even remotely think putting Jeb up as the nominee.

MrX on February 14, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Bush over Palin – it’s like the NFL and little league.

gatorboy on February 14, 2012 at 9:59 AM

You keep calling Bush “little league”m and his mom is gonna kick your arse.

You’re right, though Palin would crush Bush like a 265 lb linebacker going though screen door. Sure there would be some resistance, but “resistance is futile”, don’t you know.

ariel on February 14, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Bmore, you out there?

J.E. Dyer on February 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM

LOL, Sorry J.E., Two of my most favorite Cuban friends Miguel & Gladys insisted I come over for lunch today. Man o man did they fix a spread! Full as a tick I tell ya. I’ll make up for my absence, I promise. I double owe ya now./

Bmore on February 14, 2012 at 5:57 PM

J.E. Dyer

Happy Valentines Day!

Bmore on February 14, 2012 at 5:59 PM

(*peeks onto thread*)

Yup, just as I thought:

PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

I barely even need to read Palin threads anymore.

Aitch748 on February 14, 2012 at 8:27 AM

Sir/Ma’am
You forgot Rent Free!

Bmore on February 14, 2012 at 6:13 PM

We don’t need another Bush aka: compasionate conservative, RINO in office!

vietvet68 on February 14, 2012 at 10:17 AM

Obviously you never lived in Fla when he was Governor there. I did. He was a stellar conservative and although Charlie Crist followed him and messed everything up, Jeb was a great man and great executive for the state. Your uneducated opinion notwithstanding, the only thing holding Jeb back is his liberal brother….the former President.

Jeb isn’t a compassionate Moderate. He’s a straight up conservative. I’ve met the man many times and he’s as smart as they come in politics. I like the man a lot.

His only problem would be getting a national campaign up faster than you pulling a jockstrap over your head.

JP1986UM on February 14, 2012 at 6:36 PM

Obviously you never lived in Fla when he was Governor there. I did. He was a stellar conservative and although Charlie Crist followed him and messed everything up, Jeb was a great man and great executive for the state. Your uneducated opinion notwithstanding, the only thing holding Jeb back is his liberal brother….the former President.

Jeb isn’t a compassionate Moderate. He’s a straight up conservative. I’ve met the man many times and he’s as smart as they come in politics. I like the man a lot.

His only problem would be getting a national campaign up faster than you pulling a jockstrap over your head.

JP1986UM on February 14, 2012 at 6:36 PM

He might have been a great governor, but he’s still a Bush and if he was sent to D.C., he would just be an establishment-sanctioned continuation of 41 & 43.

NoNails on February 14, 2012 at 7:10 PM

No Bush, Palin..YES!

tinkerthinker on February 14, 2012 at 7:18 PM

i am not sure what a brokered convention is but it sounds really cool and i am all for it.

SparkPlug on February 13, 2012 at 11:07 PM

It’d be a wonderful excuse to go to Tampa, just to witness the fireworks.

Who is John Galt on February 14, 2012 at 10:26 PM

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