Hey, how about a “Jeb Bush vs. Palin” brokered convention?

posted at 9:57 pm on February 13, 2012 by Allahpundit

I know, I know. It’s not going to happen. But you can’t throw traffic bait this sweet at me and not expect it to be posted. When I saw it, my eyes lit up like a hitter sitting on a 3-0 count with the bases loaded watching a lollypop curveball start to break.

Think of the storylines. Establishment vs. grassroots. Dynastic blue bloods vs. self-made middle-class populist. Third Bush nominee vs. first woman nominee. It would be the greatest blog story ever. It would also tear the party into thousands of pieces, but never mind that.

Greatest blog story ever.

Santorum’s contraception boom — “We’re all Catholics now,” said Mike Huckabee — won’t hold up. Because we’re not. This race could well go to a brokered convention. If Jeb Bush is proposed, so Sarah Palin should be minutes later. She is now and always has been the singular Jacksonian voice in the original Tea Party phenomenon; the only one who can bring it to the mainstream. Her absence from the primary race has left a vacuum and no substitute has been found. Every other possible or potential leadership hopeful has risen and receded in this long Republican primary season…

Perry won [the Texas gubernatorial race] in a landslide. But why would the Bush establishment pull out all the stops to support Hutchison, who was sure to lose? Because they saw a new conservative movement building with Perry and Palin and were determined early on to stamp it out. They still are.

Bush/Christie or Christie/ Bush as “establishment” representation is bound to bring muffled chuckles (“Hey Abbott!!!”) and Obama would win in a landslide. But Bush/Christie vs. Sarah Palin/Rick Perry positions coming head to head at the Republican Convention would pit the storied worlds of Dexter and Paulie Walnuts; the most notoriously corrupt, burned-out, busted-up, used-up, dangerous, underwater and broke Eastern states, against the new, independent, states-oriented, freedom-seeking constitutional conservatives like Palin of the Western states, Texas and Alaska. Now that would be interesting.

If the convention did deadlock on the first ballot and some establishment favorite emerged as the knight in shining armor — Daniels, Bush, Christie — would a populist favorite jump in as an alternative? If so, who? Remember, if we got to that point, the party would be in a white-knuckle panic that its nominee would be fatally weakened against Obama in the general. Electability, or perceived electability, would be prized then even more than it is now as a way to overcome the chaos of the convention and the fact that the nominee would be starting with little or no organization. That gives the establishment candidate a heavy advantage, especially if he can entice populist-minded delegates by naming a grassroots hero (like Rubio, say) as VP in advance. The only option I can see that might make it interesting is if the populist alternative somehow got Rand Paul to agree to be on the ticket with him/her. That would lock up Ron Paul’s delegates and would give the populist ticket an element of viability that might get Santorum’s and Gingrich’s delegates to take a second look. Can’t wait.


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Bagged him/herself a critter. Well done!

kim roy on February 13, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Always fun. Thank you kindly.

Bmore on February 14, 2012 at 12:06 AM

xxessw on February 13, 2012 at 10:59 PM

$,Thank you.

Bmore on February 14, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Watching a Jeb Bush vs. Palin brokered convention would at least answer the age-old (for me personally at least) question of which will give out first: my wallet’s ability to provide me with fine single malt scotch or my body’s ability of deal with alcohol poisoning.

alchemist19 on February 14, 2012 at 12:10 AM

Vyce on February 13, 2012 at 11:57 PM

I agree, cause having to try and debate people who think a candidate who quit their job as a governor and has about a 25% approval rating can easily win the presidency is mind boggling at best.

rubberneck on February 14, 2012 at 12:10 AM

xxessw on February 13, 2012 at 11:31 PM

$, Thank you.

Bmore on February 14, 2012 at 12:11 AM

When I saw it, my eyes lit up like a hitter sitting on a 3-0 count with the bases loaded watching a lollypop curveball start to break.

And usually, a hitter with his eyes lit up on that pitch grounds it to a middle infielder. What you really want to see is a cement-mixer slider. It’s the easiest pitch on earth to recognize, and it doesn’t break, because it’s spinning sideways to the flightpath. Might as well be on a Tee.

Oh, and here’s to a brokered convention that brings the real Constitutional Conservative into play. It would be over in one vote, and Obama’s media buffoons wouldn’t know what to do next, as they’ve already emptied the guns in that direction several times.

And AP, Rubio has categorically refused to accept a VP nod. Not that he’s eligible, anyway.

Freelancer on February 14, 2012 at 12:12 AM

kim roy on February 13, 2012 at 11:37 PM

I’m a guy.

Bmore on February 14, 2012 at 12:12 AM

How much mopping have you done, xxessw ?
listens2glenn on February 13, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Well, I left the computer to do the dishes, and another ‘domestic chore’, only to come back and find ya’ll had some fun with that “mopping” post.

Has xxessw been back after that?

listens2glenn on February 14, 2012 at 12:13 AM

For all of the complaints about Romneycare on Mitt, which are well deserved, in my opinion the bigger afront to conservatism was Santorum’s support for a closed shop state in PA.

On both a philosophical level and a real world level (the use of forced dues to fund Democratic candidates), Santorum made the bigger blunder. There is simply no excuse for such a anti-democratic, pro-communist stand.

Tater Salad on February 14, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Abortion was not the key issue in 1980, as Obamacare is in 2012, and
this was 6 years before Roe vs. Wade, You think she doesn’t want Obama out of the way, unlike with other candidates, his policies are not an abstraction, to her family, her state, and the country, in that order.

narciso on February 14, 2012 at 12:15 AM

‘ A closed shop’ really as opposed to national health care, as the wedge for government control of every aspect of your life, from
Hannan to Steyn, that point is made clear, W. was a decent Governor,
but he was too willing to give way to the environmentalists on OCS
drilling, as to seriously critique NCLB.

narciso on February 14, 2012 at 12:23 AM

How much mopping have you done, xxessw ?

listens2glenn on February 13, 2012 at 11:11 PM
Her trailer has high quality linoleum flooring throughout, even on the walls. That’s why she wants Palin.

KOOLAID2 on February 13, 2012 at 11:44 PM

Well, I left the computer to do the dishes, and another ‘domestic chore’, only to come back and find ya’ll had some fun with that “mopping” post.

Has xxessw been back after that?

listens2glenn on February 14, 2012 at 12:13 AM

Sorry! I had to answer for her!
She was busy…so, she’ll have to ignore you some other time.

KOOLAID2 on February 14, 2012 at 12:27 AM

I recall the first JEb ran in ’94, he was ambushed with attacks about
his faith, Catholicism, conspiracies about the contras, accusations
that he would slash social security, yes your guess is as good as mine, just to keep a time serving apparatchik like Lawton Chiles in office,

narciso on February 14, 2012 at 12:31 AM

Why are we worried about a 3-0 curveball when India has fired its bowling coach!

davidk on February 14, 2012 at 12:32 AM

I made a comment on another site back in `09 or`10 that Palin was running for VP again. The main role of the Vice-Presidential candidate is to attack the opposing party’s presidential candidate; McCain held her back in `08 and didn’t let Sarah be Sarah. She has demonstrated her ability to skin, field dress and slice and dice Obama with every FaceBook post, with every Tweet and with every speech. If she was paired up with a reasonably well know, decent conservative candidate; one with a proven conservative record who wouldn’t hold her back it would be an unbeatable team. Cry Permanent Political Class and let slip the Mama Grizzly of conservatism.

The_Basseteer on February 14, 2012 at 12:51 AM

Man, oh man. Day by day, this election is more resembling an awful late September game between two cellar-dwellers, racking up the errors and and walking in runs. How about we just call this one on account of rain and go for a beer? Play again in four years. Hope (the non-Obama kind) springs eternal.

runningpundit on February 14, 2012 at 12:55 AM

i would love for there to be a jeb vs sarah convention. watching sarah completely dominate over jeb would be hilarious. you think he could have electrified the crowds like she did at cpac? lol!!

Sachiko

Pfft. She didn’t even dominate Joe Biden. And both of these two choices would guarantee an Obama victory.

Sarah Palin would run the race that needs to be run against Obama. Mitt Romney would not and you all know it.

CoolChange80

Sure she would. She didn’t even have it in her to run the race that needed to be run against Romney and the other candidates.

Meanwhile, I love all these names being thrown around. One problem….most every one of them has said they aren’t interested in running for president at this time, including Palin. What are you folks going to do, force them to be the nominee at the point of a gun, lol? What happens if your dream team of candidates in this brokered convention fantasy say “Thanks, but no thanks”?

xblade on February 14, 2012 at 1:02 AM

THE BEST SONG FOR THE CONVENTION!

http://youtu.be/pKucBtFwymU

Seriously though – I sent this video to both hot air and mediate and nobody has posted it? It’s awesome. Runs Gingrich through the ringer.

fatlibertarianinokc on February 14, 2012 at 1:03 AM

Its not a game AP!
Its crucial to the future of America that a person of integrity be the nominee.

KMC1 on February 14, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Its not a game AP!
Its crucial to the future of America that a person of integrity be the nominee.

KMC1 on February 14, 2012 at 1:14 AM

Good luck with that. I’m pretty sure we pissed it all away many months ago.

gryphon202 on February 14, 2012 at 1:19 AM

They have been fishing J. Bush so long guess AP wanted to get one in too before the doors closed at the convention

Palin gave a great CPAC speech. She could have given the same speech as a candidate, but she didn’t. They were fishing a brokered convention at CPAC too.

If the GOP bigs didn’t want to accept the elected candidate, they should have kept the votes to caucuses, but they allowed open voting in some states. Brokered convention will play bad to the public. It makes the GOP look overtly crooked.

People have been robbed of their wealth and security, and they are looking for some crooks to blame. Throw away the vote, which has been presented in the news as a primary to nominate a candidate, and the GOP image will tarnish. The Right has been building a very public case about Obama the tyrant, and it will be turned on their own party

entagor on February 14, 2012 at 1:27 AM

gryphon202 on February 14, 2012 at 1:19 AM

gryphon202, I like your optimism! Come November we will show 0 the door. Come heII or high water.

Bmore on February 14, 2012 at 1:29 AM

gryphon202, I like your optimism! Come November we will show 0 the door. Come heII or high water.

Bmore on February 14, 2012 at 1:29 AM

You left out your /sarc tag. I am about as pessimist as they come.

gryphon202 on February 14, 2012 at 1:31 AM

Silliness, as are all the “brokered convention” fantasies.

First of all, it presumes that enough delegates will be won by the third and fourth (and lower) place candidates to deny the frontrunner (whoever it is) the nomination on the first ballot. Paul will win his few, but Gingrich is already having trouble raising money. Who wants to donate to a sure loser, possibly permanently pissing off the eventual nominee? For what purpose?

Secondly, there is no reason to assume the delegates won by each candidate will defect en masse at the second and subsequent ballots. Some might, but most are chosen for their proven loyalty.

Third, there is even less reason to assume defectors would opt for someone who didn’t even run the primary gauntlet.

Traffic bait, indeed. Some fish are easy to catch.

Adjoran on February 14, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Man, oh man. Day by day, this election is more resembling an awful late September game between two cellar-dwellers, racking up the errors and and walking in runs. How about we just call this one on account of rain and go for a beer? Play again in four years. Hope (the non-Obama kind) springs eternal.

Greatest post evah. Time to close the thread.

tkyang99 on February 14, 2012 at 1:55 AM

Palin traffic is good. lol..here is m hit.

bazil9 on February 14, 2012 at 2:04 AM

gryphon202 on February 14, 2012 at 1:19 AM

.
gryphon202, I like your optimism! Come November we will show 0 the door. Come heII or high water.
Bmore on February 14, 2012 at 1:29 AM
.

You left out your /sarc tag. I am about as pessimist as they come.
gryphon202 on February 14, 2012 at 1:31 AM

.
gyphon’, you remind me of those guys on that country/western show Hee Haw, who ON EVERY EPISODE would sing that depressing song:

“Doom, despair, and agony on me

Deep dark depression, excessive misery

If it weren’t for bad luck, I’d have no luck at all

Doom, despair, and agony on me”

listens2glenn on February 14, 2012 at 2:09 AM

You left out your /sarc tag. I am about as pessimist as they come.

gryphon202 on February 14, 2012 at 1:31 AM

No I didn’t, from where I am you look like an optimist. We will get this place back.

Bmore on February 14, 2012 at 2:14 AM

gryphon202 on February 14, 2012 at 1:31 AM

I see you as realistic. IMO. This place is to express them. Popular or not.

bazil9 on February 14, 2012 at 2:26 AM

The Bush v Palin Brokered Convention scenario is a fun thought, but about as unlikely as actually quantifying how much wood a woodchuck would chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
:)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 14, 2012 at 2:34 AM

Getting here late and catching up and I be dadblamed flabbergasted!

Why I would have never thought we had so many Masters Degrees and Lawyers (and Law Students) around these parts.

Me, I am just a dumb ass hillbilly with a BS-EE from one of them backwoods Land Grant Colleges from down in the backwoods whose only claim to fame was one of them there Nukelear Reactors.

I would take Jindal or Palin in a heartbeat! I am Anybody But Romney in the Primaries and Anybody but Obama in the General.

Last thing I want to see is Mirror Images facing each other in the General.

Star Trek Mirror Universe anyone?

Old Dog on February 14, 2012 at 2:48 AM

Star Trek Mirror Universe anyone?

Old Dog on February 14, 2012 at 2:48 AM

Evil Mitt Romney with a goatee? That, I can get behind.

Dongemaharu on February 14, 2012 at 2:54 AM

I’m no fan of Jesse Jackson but I do agree with him on one thing:

Keep out da Bushes.

LegendHasIt on February 14, 2012 at 2:55 AM

is AP off twitter?

DBear on February 14, 2012 at 3:02 AM

I am about as pessimist as they come.

gryphon202 on February 14, 2012 at 1:31 AM

I’d be too if I was freezing my butt off up in SD…

Gohawgs on February 14, 2012 at 3:03 AM

Mirror Universe Mitt Romney would have a -D after his name!

Old Dog on February 14, 2012 at 3:07 AM

Having read through all the comments (and filtering out the liberal trolls/faux conservatives statements), let’s review some of the basics of politics:

When your opponent is damaging himself, stand back & take notes.
Obama, when he has the media focus, is still trying to cement his base. His recent missteps are not Machiavellian in nature. He has lost support among the voters he should be taking for granted. If he cannot get them to the polls in November, he will be demolished everywhere.

Conventions ARE the GOP establishment and Allah’s premise is false.
If you have worked in political campaigns you know that the people who get selected as delegates are part of the establishment machine. They are horse traded at the conventions in return for hard promises that are redeemable in the future. There will not be a “brokered” convention. The deals will be made before the convention – it will be played out for drama and free television time but the various camps will have negotiated outcomes for all conceivable situations. As for Allah, setting up Sarah Palin threads is a great way to prove to the Boss Lady that he generates income for her.

The GOP establishment does not want to win the presidency in 2012.
They want to win the Senate and hold the House. If they have to suffer a lame duck Obama for four years, they’ll pay that price. The leadership would love to be able to stuff legislation at him till he chokes on it. Why is the Presidency not their priority? Because as so many people have noted, things ARE in a God forsaken mess and if they had a President who was really working on fixing things, most of them would have to go and try to find a new source of income & power.

Palin (God love her) will never be a GOP Presidential candidate.
In my opinion, what Sarah Palin was subjected to by the MSM at the direction of the Obama campaign was the all time low point for Presidential campaigns in American history (yes, including Andrew Jackson and all the others). I think she would be a hell of a President but would need security way beyond what Obama has required. She would say and mean, “A plague on both your houses.” There is not a dime’s worth of difference between the GOP and Democratic establishments. The only way Palin makes it to the Presidency is as a third party candidate with a campaign war chest of $ 5 billion and people from the precinct level on up that are as hard as steel.

If you really believe in YOUR candidate, what the heck are you doing spending so much time on here?

PolAgnostic on February 14, 2012 at 3:09 AM

Shameless bait. Not falling for it.

Wolfmoon on February 14, 2012 at 3:11 AM

Mirror Universe Mitt Romney would have a -D after his name!
Old Dog on February 14, 2012 at 3:07 AM

No, that would be “Reality Universe or “Honesty Universe”.

LegendHasIt on February 14, 2012 at 3:19 AM

I would make that Palin/West which would drive the left crazy and take away their favorite lie of racism. They (Palin/West) would win in a landslide of historic proportions. And then the fun would really begin considering they would come to power with majorities in both the House and Senate.

Oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth as they start taking names and kicking butts out of the doors of DC.

Be still my heart.

shmendrick on February 13, 2012 at 10:43 PM

PALIN / WEST! My DREAM team. Wins in landslide against obama!!!

American Dream 246 on February 14, 2012 at 3:33 AM

PolAgnostic on February 14, 2012 at 3:09 AM

Great post. I pretty much concur with all your statements.

Doomberg on February 14, 2012 at 4:02 AM

Romneycare = Obamacare

Gedge on February 14, 2012 at 4:29 AM

Think of the storylines. Establishment vs. grassroots.

Which one is grassroots?

Notorious GOP on February 14, 2012 at 5:19 AM

Not another Shrub NO MORE SHRUBS. Nominating Palin is self destructive she’ll just quit, you betcha!

Your Mamma loves me on February 14, 2012 at 5:45 AM

First off, On a 3-0 count the pitcher is likely NOT going to be throwing a hanging curve as he has already shown he cannot even “hit” the strike zone…so look for the straight fastball.

From Allah’s example he shows he is off on his analogy as well on the brokered convention…I know, I know, he said it will likely not happen and I will say it will NOT happen because Romney will end up wrapping this up before then.

I find it interesting that those that say Romney does not have support from conservatives (which I am a “severe” one…haha) and yet Romney leads in FINANCIAL support and also Congressional support. If these other candidates were soooo popular the money would follow them yet, they are struggling in their campaigns as support should and usually translates to money in the bank.

I have stated over and over on here that many of these “facts” people state about Romney are so off base and why those that support him know he will be a great President!

Remember Reagan struggled in 1980 both in the polls and lost a few primaries before he secured the nomination and that was still with a third party candidate, Anderson, throwing his hat into the ring because some conservatives did not “trust” Reagan either at that time.

g2825m on February 14, 2012 at 5:48 AM

Remember Reagan struggled in 1980 both in the polls and lost a few primaries before he secured the nomination and that was still with a third party candidate, Anderson, throwing his hat into the ring because some conservatives did not “trust” Reagan either at that time.

g2825m on February 14, 2012 at 5:48 AM

They didn’t like Reagan because he was “too conservative”. That is hardly the case with RomneyCare. He’s severe, not conservative.

stenwin77 on February 14, 2012 at 6:10 AM

The Bush v Palin Brokered Convention scenario is a fun thought, but about as unlikely as actually quantifying how much wood a woodchuck would chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
:)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on February 14, 2012 at 2:34 AM

I don’t know what you mean, I saw some on tv the other day having a great time chuckin wood…

tinkerthinker on February 14, 2012 at 6:37 AM

would make that Palin/West which would drive the left crazy and take away their favorite lie of racism. They (Palin/West) would win in a landslide of historic proportions. And then the fun would really begin considering they would come to power with majorities in both the House and Senate.

Oh the wailing and gnashing of teeth as they start taking names and kicking butts out of the doors of DC.

Be still my heart.

shmendrick on February 13, 2012 at 10:43 PM

PALIN / WEST! My DREAM team. Wins in landslide against obama!!!

American Dream 246 on February 14, 2012 at 3:33 AM

Yep, best outcome for America. Sarah/West

tinkerthinker on February 14, 2012 at 6:39 AM

Is Sarah Palin the new celebrity Donald Trump?

She would best serve the GOP by giving speeches and raising money for Republicans.

albill on February 14, 2012 at 6:57 AM

Brokered…Palin/West…to the bank with it. She did say (paraphrasing) when she announced you won`t miss it, and that it would be an unconventional campaign….who know whats gonna happen but I`d SMILE voting for Palin/? as opposed to any of the current runners (tho any will get my vote).

NY Conservative on February 14, 2012 at 7:00 AM

I don’t know what you mean, I saw some on tv the other day having a great time chuckin wood…

tinkerthinker on February 14, 2012 at 6:37 AM

I don’t know why, but that commercial always makes me laugh.

Night Owl on February 14, 2012 at 7:16 AM

Allahpundit, if I ever travel to New York and you reveal yourself to me; I don’t care if you look like Darkman himself-I will either kiss you or punch you.

ProudPalinFan on February 14, 2012 at 7:18 AM

Could someone tell me why th AZ primary – with Tea Party strength- IS BEING IGNORED? is it because Romney is thrashing Santorum in a primary where ONLY republicans can vote ? As opposed to Michigan polling where democrats are choosing the winner ? CAN WE BE ANY MORE MANIPULATED BY THE MEDIA. ?

FlaMurph on February 14, 2012 at 7:19 AM

I’d stuff the ballot box for Bush if that were the choice.

Zaggs on February 13, 2012 at 10:07 PM

In exchange for what?

ProudPalinFan on February 14, 2012 at 7:21 AM

Let’s be realistic about this. The convention is far too late to get behind a nominee. This isn’t the 1900s. The presumptive nominee and his party need the summer to set up the grassroots organizations necessary for victory in the general election. It would be folly to wait until the convention and broker a candidate.

This holds true no matter what the stinkbug loser Gingrich says about sticking it out and winning the nomination at the convention. Newt is a pathetic and vindictive sore loser. He needs to go home now.

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2012 at 7:26 AM

Is Sarah Palin the new celebrity Donald Trump?

She would best serve the GOP by giving speeches and raising money for Republicans.

albill on February 14, 2012 at 6:57 AM

Trump’s not running isn’t leaving an unfillable void in the GOP field. Palin’s not running has. So…analogy fail. Snark isn’t necessarily “smart”.

ddrintn on February 14, 2012 at 7:26 AM

As opposed to Michigan polling where democrats are choosing the winner ? CAN WE BE ANY MORE MANIPULATED BY THE MEDIA. ?

FlaMurph on February 14, 2012 at 7:19 AM

For three years you Mittbots have been citing polls as gospel that included Dems for the purposes of propping up Plastic Man. And now you’re going to gripe when they vote in primaries? Come on. I thought Democrats love Mitt and were going to pull him over the finish line in November.

ddrintn on February 14, 2012 at 7:29 AM

FlaMurph on February 14, 2012 at 7:19 AM

What a drama queen. Or is that conspiracy nut?

Perhaps the reasons are much more clear and straightforward than media manipulation. Perhaps the difference is that AZ is reliably Republican in the general election while Santorum is leading in some polling in MI which is a must-win election for Romney given his roots there. Santorum besting Romney in MI IS a bigger story. The odds are still in Romney’s favor but Santorum is surging and a MI win would be a huge psychological victory no matter what.

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2012 at 7:30 AM

Remember, if we got to that point, the party would be in a white-knuckle panic that its nominee would be fatally weakened against Obama in the general. Electability, or perceived electability, would be prized then even more than it is now as a way to overcome the chaos of the convention and the fact that the nominee would be starting with little or no organization.

LOL…”electability” would be even more prized although it would have been the “electability” fetish that brought the situation around in the first place. We were told for 3 years that Romney is ultra-electable, and he’s having problems in the primaries against a succession of third-stringers. That’s because he’s a fourth-stringer himself who’s been pawned off as a superstar.

ddrintn on February 14, 2012 at 7:35 AM

No. More. Bushes. Period.

clippermiami on February 14, 2012 at 7:36 AM

Trump’s not running isn’t leaving an unfillable void in the GOP field. Palin’s not running has. So…analogy fail. Snark isn’t necessarily “smart”.

ddrintn on February 14, 2012 at 7:26 AM

Palin left a void in the field? I’m sorry but you are wrong. I like Sarah Palin and felt much better about having to vote for a smirking weasel like McCain with her on the ticket. But (you knew that was coming) I can think of few more polarizing figures that would ensure Obama getting a second term. At this point, I think she does better on the sidelines where her interviews have had much more influence than if she had decided to run.

Other names being thrown around that should not even consider running for office in 2012:

Jeb Bush
Chris Christie
Donald Trump
Hermain Cain

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2012 at 7:36 AM

She would best serve the GOP by giving speeches and raising money for Republicans.

albill on February 14, 2012 at 6:57 AM

Mitt Romneycare, who nobody likes, would best serve the GOP by dropping out and turning his organization over to Palin, who can get voters to the polls like no one else. By continuing his futile campaign, Mitt just proves he is a selfish, me guy who puts himself above party and country.

james23 on February 14, 2012 at 7:36 AM

Do you know why? Because she is under qualified for Motel 6.

xxessw on February 13, 2012 at 10:40 PM

“Under qualified” is actually one word, not two, idjit.

steebo77 on February 14, 2012 at 7:42 AM

When I saw it, my eyes lit up like a hitter sitting Carlos Beltran on a 3-0 count with the bases loaded in Game 7 watching a lollypop curveball start to break.

Actually, no…but I just couldn’t pass that up. Like the aforementioned hitter. I kid because I love.

Jorge Bonilla on February 13, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Jorge, 1-Serie de invierno en Puerto Rico; 2-La Serie Del Caribe. I went to the largest victory where Team San Juan won (when Alomar was in the team with Carlos Delgado and Igor González) and check this out, they had a “reunion!”

Good times, Good times! FYI Couple of rows in front of me was actor and movie director Jacobo Morales…months after he wrapped up that Chayanne and Dayanara movie. Imagine me, in work clothes with a box of KFC, stadium packed full and then he comes with a drink and food. WOW! :D

ProudPalinFan on February 14, 2012 at 7:46 AM

ALOL, I’ve actually considered that this Palin / Bush battle might be “out there” for awhile.

This battle at the convention has happened before in 1976 where Reagan tried to woo by picking Schweitzer from PA for his Veep. Then in 1980 there was the Ford for Veep boomlet that resulted in a bit of drama.

Not gonna happen though. I thinks it going to be over after Super Tuesday.

NO MORE BUSHES!!!!

PappyD61 on February 14, 2012 at 7:48 AM

Palin left a void in the field? I’m sorry but you are wrong.

Really? Name me that other conservative who can imspire the base to get out and vote. I won’t be holding my breath.

But (you knew that was coming) I can think of few more polarizing figures that would ensure Obama getting a second term.

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2012 at 7:36 AM

Any successful candidate is going to be “polarizing” by definition. Reagan was polarizing. Clinton was polarizing. Bush was polarizing. Obama is most definitely polarizing. So that little talking point is absolutely useless. As is “she would most definitely be squashed by Obama”. She’d at least have a base of support, unlike Romney.

ddrintn on February 14, 2012 at 7:57 AM

Palin could be elected President of HotAiria.

……but outside of here, she is WILDLY UNPOPULAR.

PappyD61 on February 14, 2012 at 7:58 AM

* inspire

ddrintn on February 14, 2012 at 7:58 AM

Palin could be elected President of HotAiria.

……but outside of here, she is WILDLY UNPOPULAR.

PappyD61 on February 14, 2012 at 7:58 AM

So was Gingrich in August. Three months later he was the frontrunner. So?

ddrintn on February 14, 2012 at 7:59 AM

Obviously this is about number of postings. So old and new
whacko posters can post the same drivel over and over and over again.

Amjean on February 14, 2012 at 8:02 AM

JAILBAIT HARDEST HIT!

This thread is a crime.

However, such an event would be wall-to-wall worldwide coverage. Are you kidding? Jeb Bush and the Latin Builders’ Association, in Cooperation with United Sugar, vs. Sarah Palin and Family, in Cooperation with Citizens United and the Koch Brothers.

Jesus. Twenty Ballots, at least. By the third ballot, all these unknown delegates from West Christ, Nebraska suddenly would become household names because THEY would hold in their hands the choice between Bush and Palin.

There is, after all, a G-d.

victor82 on February 14, 2012 at 8:02 AM

Have another wank everyone!

chumpThreads on February 14, 2012 at 8:02 AM

Isn’t it time for Palinsky to get a new PAC goin’ so she can sucker her humble, patriotic supporters with servant’s hearts into donating massive amounts of cash? Gotta have her kids’ Spring Break vacay funded. Yep, that’s how to stick it to the establishment, get rid of the good ole boys, fight Big Oil, drain the swamp, and cut (her) deficit…

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Have another wank everyone!

chumpThreads on February 14, 2012 at 8:02 AM

More class on display from Hot Air’s resident Trig Truther.

steebo77 on February 14, 2012 at 8:05 AM

ddrintn on February 14, 2012 at 7:57 AM

There is good polarizing and bad polarizing. Reagan was an example of good polarizing (also known as uniting). Clinton (Bill) was polarizing in a bad way but the GOP helped him out by putting up pathetic dinosaurs who inspired nobody and stood for nothing. Obama is a bad polarizer but is getting a huge assist from Romeny and Gingrich’s decision to attack each other than the jug-eared traitor (nice going guys).

As to Palin, she wouldn’t even get the kind of support seen for Santorum in large part because she does not have the background and experience to be a credible Presidential candidate. Rick Santorum has more experience than Obama did when he ran for the office. Romney was a governor and businessman. Sarah Palin was a PTA president and partial-term governor. She simply is not a serious candidate for the top spot.

BTW, I know many conservatives that would not vote for Palin for the above reasons.

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2012 at 8:06 AM

Buy Danish on February 14, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Same old same old from day-old Danish.

steebo77 on February 14, 2012 at 8:07 AM

So was Gingrich in August. Three months later he was the frontrunner. So?

ddrintn on February 14, 2012 at 7:59 AM

And four months later he was a bitter vindictive whiner in a distant third only ahead of a racist homophobic nutjob.

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2012 at 8:08 AM

Hey Allah, on a 3-0 count with the bases loaded you would get a fastball.

joepub on February 14, 2012 at 8:09 AM

Oh, and here’s to a brokered convention that brings the real Constitutional Conservative into play.

Freelancer on February 14, 2012 at 12:12 AM

There is already a Constitutional conservative running, and he has exposed so-called conservatives and lip-service Constitutionalists time and time again.

Dante on February 14, 2012 at 8:10 AM

Perry won [the Texas gubernatorial race] in a landslide.

HUH?

What constitutes a landslide on YOUR PLANET???

That certainly did NOT happen on planet EARTH!

Katfish on February 14, 2012 at 8:10 AM

That’s just what this primary needs – more dellusional thinking. Thanks Allapundit. Pass that bong over this way. Just another thread so we can insult each other and drive up the Hot Gas hit counts.

rhombus on February 14, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Which one is grassroots?

Notorious GOP on February 14, 2012 at 5:19 AM

LOL. Beat me to it.

Dante on February 14, 2012 at 8:12 AM

rhombus on February 14, 2012 at 8:12 AM

Allah hears the grassroots calling, beggin for Sarah to run. Only she has the populist cred to win this election.

lets not kid ourselves, obama will eat the gop midgets lunches.

renalin on February 14, 2012 at 8:25 AM

Think of the storylines. Establishment vs. grassroots. Dynastic blue bloods vs. self-made middle-class populist. Third Bush nominee vs. first woman nominee.

It smells like GOP class envy in here. Phew…. I can get a snoot full of this stench from the Democrats. Why do I need Republicans yammering about “country clubs” and “establishments”? Maybe there really is no difference between the parties if we’re dumb enough to fall for this.

rhombus on February 14, 2012 at 8:26 AM

That’s just what this primary needs – more dellusional thinking. Thanks Allapundit. Pass that bong over this way. Just another thread so we can insult each other and drive up the Hot Gas hit counts.

rhombus on February 14, 2012 at 8:12 AM

It worked on you…

right2bright on February 14, 2012 at 8:26 AM

It worked on you…

right2bright on February 14, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Oh, my, worked twice on you…

right2bright on February 14, 2012 at 8:26 AM

(*peeks onto thread*)

Yup, just as I thought:

PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! PALIN IS IRRELEVANT AND EVERYBODY HATES HER!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

I barely even need to read Palin threads anymore.

Aitch748 on February 14, 2012 at 8:27 AM

Well, it won’t happen, but if it came to a brokered convention, there’s one person I’d prefer over both Jeb and Sarah:

Rudy Giuliani.

MrLynn on February 14, 2012 at 8:28 AM

It worked on you…

right2bright on February 14, 2012 at 8:26 AM

Three times (so far). If you can’t beat ‘em, join the dellusion… working on my Ouija board to contact Reagan now.

rhombus on February 14, 2012 at 8:29 AM

Or is that conspiracy nut?
Perhaps the reasons are much more clear and straightforward than media manipulation. Perhaps the difference is that AZ is reliably Republican in the general election while Santorum is leading in some polling in MI which is a must-win election for Romney given his roots there. Santorum besting Romney in MI IS a bigger story. The odds are still in Romney’s favor but Santorum is surging and a MI win would be a huge psychological victory no matter what.
Happy Nomad on February 14, 2012 at 7:30 AM

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You are so utterly clueless. Whats the polling in republican ONLY AZ ? But no, you rest your hopes on Michigan DEMOCRATS to vote your guy in? How pathetic. Did it ever cross your mind that maybe- just maybe- those obama democrats may not be on your side? Stick with what Republicans want for their candidate- not what democrats want. And yes- FLA was a republicans only primary.

FlaMurph on February 14, 2012 at 8:30 AM

PALIN / BUSH would be like…..

Eating the shiniest, most amazing looking donut you’ve ever seen (when you’ve been without food for three days)..only to find out as you bit into it that has a shinola filling!!!

NO MORE SHINOLA from the gop.

PappyD61 on February 14, 2012 at 8:30 AM

lets not kid ourselves
renalin on February 14, 2012 at 8:25 AM

I suggest you get out a little more.

rhombus on February 14, 2012 at 8:30 AM

PappyD61, agreed.

Political dialogue is essential prior to deciding the ticket. Those whining about public discussion “hurting” America (or the GOP) clarify their own faulty premise. Elitism is NOT “the American way” — that is, it wasn’t propagandized as such prior to baby boomers aging.

After burning Constitutional Governance, the Bush bonfire of the vanities left the American Citizenry a thousand points of light in ash. It is one thing to see only what we want. That isn’t well advised, Matthew 13:13-15.

Of replaying WWI given a new century, Kerri Toloczko fails to address essence, though concludes properly that Reagan’s “Star Wars” military research, having become today’s reality, will either be used by the current US CIA/Military to strictly defend the US, or be used by the current US to initiate “first strike” Global Armageddon. Ignorance is not bliss when what we don’t know hurts us; and information being rationed to affect our public reaction only tolerates authoritarian directive.

Regarding brokered conventions, that’s how conventions were always conducted in both parties, making great show at home on television on par with the games leading to the world series. “Repo Men” changed protocol for their own advantage, and continue muscling the political process to their own advantage — nothing new. The only thing claiming to be new to politics are those who were born yesterday; and there’s nothing new about them, either.

maverick muse on February 14, 2012 at 8:40 AM

FlaMurph on February 14, 2012 at 8:30 AM

Wow, what a vile bitter person you must be. You sure you are not a Gingrich supporter? With all the whining, puffery, temper tantrums and delusion- Newt is a perfect fit for your personality.

The fact of the matter is that Romney is not yet the nominee and your acting like a spoiled little child and blaming that FACT on shadow Democrats who are lurking in the shadows of Lansing ready to pounce on Romney’s chances in MI is just absurd. Romney has an enthusiasm gap with what should be his base and nasty mean-spirited people like you do little to convince potential supporters to get behind Romney.

Happy Nomad on February 14, 2012 at 8:40 AM

PolAgnostic on February 14, 2012 at 3:09 AM

Great post. I pretty much concur with all your statements.

Doomberg on February 14, 2012 at 4:02 AM

That was a superb post. It really does feel like the establishment GOP wants to lose the presidential race and take over the Senate and strengthen the House. My big problem with Romney, aside from pesky details like Romneycare, his fluctuating position on social issues, is that he has no narrative voice. I want to know why he wants to be president. Newt made it very clear that he is running because as a grandfather he feels obligated to make this country a better place for his grandchildren. Santorum has the clear cut storyline that he believes that our culture has to be redeemed as we go about repairing the ship of state, a battle he has fought for decades. Paul, too, has a very specific goal for his presidency. We all knew that if Palin ran this cycle, her narrative would be about the culture of corruption and her great love of this country and the need to save it from those who exploit it to line their pockets. Romney has no narrative that I can discern. He was a businessman who can fix the economy. Great.

I will vote for Romney if he is the nominee, but while I understand his reticence to expose his private self in this public world, he needs to understand that people need to feel that he genuinely cares, that this isn’t because it’s a logical step from running a top investment firm to running the country, but that he feels he has a unique set of skills to fix what ails this country that he loves and reveres. That he wants to celebrate what sets us apart from other western nations and strengthen the foundations created by those who wrote the founding documents.

Everyone else running demonstrates passion. They all understand that the Tea Party rallies demonstrated that the average American’s passion is running high in this crucial election year. Yet Romney is running as though it is still 2008 and Obama never happened. It is discouraging.

piglet on February 14, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Why would we even want to vote for someone who gets in this late? Heck, Fred Thompson wasn’t even that lazy.

Sammo21 on February 14, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Allahpundit knows that the Bush family will never have anything to do with Sarah Palin beyond using her in order to usurp the Tea Party just as Jeb Bush said he would.

maverick muse on February 14, 2012 at 8:42 AM

If this were to happen (Palin or Bush)then we better be ready for 4 more years of Obama! I know I won’t vote for either of them.

lhuffman34 on February 14, 2012 at 8:44 AM

The only thing I believe is that GOD is in charge. Sarah has already said that a brokered convention would be fine with her. Who died and left the Bush family in charge of deciding for We the People who our candidate would be? There’s no way he could ever beat Zero who’s still out there blaming the last Bush for all our problems.

Kissmygrits on February 14, 2012 at 8:46 AM

But the debt already IS unsustainable.

FloatingRock on February 13, 2012 at 11:28 PM

not as long as there is an understanding in the world of this quid pro releationship. As long as the USA can print money out of the air and places like the middle east except that money for their goods and services the debt while worrying is “sustainable” Yes it will decrease our standard of life as inflation occurs do to the printing but it is sustainable as long as people accept dollars. And the only reason places like the middle east and europe accept those dollars is because of the protection america gives them. Pull our forces back leave our allies defensless and the end of our economy would come within months as the dollar is abandoned as the world currency. This is what Paul doesn’t “get” or maybe he does and doesn’t care. that is not the same has fighting little politcal wars across the globe or the same as neocon foreign policy but isolantionism will be the death of the American economy in short order..

unseen on February 14, 2012 at 9:00 AM

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