Video: Daniel Hannan’s warning to CPAC — and America

posted at 10:30 am on February 12, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday, I had a chance to interview an honored CPAC guest, Member of the European Parliament Daniel Hannan. Unfortunately for me and for all of us, the audio did not record properly on the video, a problem I only discovered long after CPAC packed up for the day. Since I was the cameraman as well as the interviewer, I took no notes, but I can give you a couple of lasting impressions of the discussion.

Hannan was a friendly and informal interview subject; when I asked him how he preferred to be addressed, he smiled and replied, “How about Daniel?” Daniel told me that I probably wouldn’t believe this, but the British are more informal than Americans when it comes to the protocols of dealing with public officials. (I believe him now, certainly.) We spoke at length about the fiscal crisis facing Greece and the EU, which Daniel explained is a lot more nuanced than we think — and worse. He expressed sympathy for the Greek people resisting the austerity measures being imposed on them, since he feels that the people who created the crisis are precisely the ones who will get bailed out on the backs of the Greek people. The same thing happened in America when we decided that some financial institutions were too big to fail, and the taxpayers ended up holding the bag for their bad investments.

What, then, is the solution? Daniel then pulled a copy of the US Constitution out of his jacket pocket and explained that we needed to return the model of government outlined in “the most brilliant document” ever created for political structure. We discussed the issue of the Fed and the dislocation from the gold standard, as Daniel insisted that governments will manipulate currency rather than make the necessary tough decisions to live within their means until forced to stop doing so. The British, he said, have already devalued their currency by 20% through three rounds of quantitative easing despite a clear lack of positive results from the first two rounds, and we are about to do the same. I asked him about whether he felt any affinity for Ron Paul’s efforts, and while Daniel declined to support Paul overall, he does find it remarkable how Paul’s financial policies were considered “fringe” five years ago, and now Austrian economics and Paul’s views on monetary policy have become a lot more mainstream — due to reality overtaking us on debt and deficits.

I apologize for the technical difficulties that ended up making my interview video with Daniel Hannan a silent movie. In recompense, I offer you the full video of Daniel’s highly entertaining address to CPAC via The Right Scoop (who has much more from CPAC as well), which got rave reviews from Blogger Row. He is clearly a friend to America; in our interview, Daniel emphasized the mutual affection that the people of both countries have for each other, and insisted that the “special relationship” between the governments is a separate matter. But like any friend who sees their closest friend about to walk over the same cliff as they have, Daniel is warning us not to follow in Europe’s footsteps. Hopefully, it is not too late.


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Thanks, dukecitygirl and ShainS. He didn’t seem like a racist to me. (Gotta get my hearing checked!)

Meryl Yourish on February 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM

I guess it’s ok to mention the good qualities of any group as long as they aren’t white? How did the definition of racism shift? How did we move from expression of a negative about a race being racism, to expression of anything good about whites now being racism?

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 3:34 PM

He’s warning us that “at least we aren’t as fuc– as Europe”, isn’t going to cut it. He’s right.

It’s time to hold “conservative” elites accoutable. Especially if a Romney, with a straight face, can call himself a conservative. It’s time to return to a constitution based form of government. So, as stated time and time again, for many true conservatives, Romneycare disqualifies Romney. The fact that he pushed this legislation at the state level is unpersuasive. The fact that people voted for it 3-1 (read the fifth regime of Plato who warned of the tyranny of the majority) is unpersuasive. No “conservative” governor should be enacting laws – in Massachusetts or on Mars – that are contrary to the principles of the constitution vis-à-vis individual liberty. Romney doesn’t get to say, the citizens of Massachusetts wanted me to trample individual liberty and the constitution didn’t expressly forbid it so move along, there’s nothing to see here. BS. He owns Romneycare in all its despicably overreaching and socialistic glory.

How’d we get to this point? Where conservatives are being bullied by liberal republicans into accepting Romney or 4 more years of Obama? In large part by moderate republicans continuing to blur the line between republican and democratic policies. By allowing the republican elite to pull conservatives left. By compassionate conservatism. By voting for the likes of Bush/McCain/Gingrich/Romney/Huntsman/Christie/Pataki/Bloomburg/Whitman/Graham/Hatch.

noeastern on February 12, 2012 at 3:57 PM

(my inner Rush)

Right On…! Right On…! Right On…!

Seven Percent Solution on February 12, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Hopefully, it is not too late.

I used to hope this was true.

Unfortunately, there’s no evidence to support it. It’s well past the point of “too late”.

Midas on February 12, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Palin/Hannan 2012! If a non natural born citizen can be President (Obama) or proposed for Vice President (Rubio and Jindal) why not a non-citizen? Seems he gets more than many of our own citizens. So why not?

Tarnsman on February 12, 2012 at 4:09 PM

white? How did the definition of racism shift? How did we move from expression of a negative about a race being racism, to expression of anything good about whites now being racism?

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 3:34 PM

He said wide.

AshleyTKing on February 12, 2012 at 4:20 PM

At 20:12, the “citizen president”.

Too bad she’s not running.

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Just outstanding — every word. Thanks!

DaMav on February 12, 2012 at 4:38 PM

He said wide.

AshleyTKing on February 12, 2012 at 4:20 PM

I wasn’t commenting about what Hannah said. He’s a politician so of course he said wide, because if he didn’t then Meryl Yourish would have said he was racist, and that was my point. What if he had said white? What if he had said something positive about whites? My point was that racism has shifted from a negative to a positive. How can saying something positive about any group be considered racism?

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 4:58 PM

His country’s unemployment rate is just about the same as ours.

His country has universal health care for everyone

His country has a much lower deficit than ours

His country doesnt have the same chicken/war hawk ideologues we have bere.

Except for the same unemployment rate, his country is doing way much better than ours.

Uppereastside on February 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM

His country’s unemployment rate is just about the same as ours.

His country has universal health care for everyone

His country has a much lower deficit than ours

His country doesnt have the same chicken/war hawk ideologues we have bere.

Except for the same unemployment rate, his country is doing way much better than ours.
Uppereastside on February 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Total UK debt as a percentage of GDP is the highest for any nation in the world period. Yeah, the UK is in great shape.

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Uppereastside on February 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM

We could swap statistics all day long but the standard he is measuring by is individual liberties as opposed to the centralization of government.

Pay attention next time.

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Uppereastside on February 12, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Are you joking?

When Her Majesty’s prisons have to re-do their bathrooms so the toilets don’t face Mecca, you think they’re doing better than us?

When the EU tells a grocer that he cannot sell kiwis at a discount because they don’t meet their standard for the correct size and he must throw them away, you think they’re doing better than us?

When someone breaks into a Brit’s home and he wrestles the intruder to the ground and the police arrest the homeowner for assault, you think they’re doing better?

When they are not allowed to own a handgun do you think they are doing better than us?

When an elderly English lady has a display of porcelain pigs in her windowsill and the police show up and tells her that she must remove them because it offends Muslims, do you think they’re doing better?

When a British blogger gets arrested for writing on his blog that his culture is being usurped by Islam and political correctness, you think they’re doing better?

When a Catholic hospital there is not allowed to have crucifixes on their walls, you think they’re doing better?

Dude, you’re clueless.

dukecitygirl on February 12, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Uppereastside PM

Of course, that explains a lot. Most Upper Eastsiders inhabit a rarifed bubble where reality seldom intrudes. Most of my clients live on the Upper Eastside.

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Yesterday, I had a chance to interview an honored CPAC guest, Member of the European Parliament Daniel Hannan. Unfortunately for me and for all of us, the audio did not record properly on the video, a problem I only discovered long after CPAC packed up for the day. Since I was the cameraman as well as the interviewer, I took no notes, but I can give you a couple of lasting impressions of the discussion.

Well dangit Ed. Did you ask him if he now believed that Americans had put their history of racism behind us when Obama was elected? During the ’08 campaign, hearing that from him was kind of ironic, nah hypocritical, coming from a Brit given their history of racism and ethnic and religious cleansing against their own people.

As I recall, that was one of the reasons he cited for supporting Obama in ’08, the other being Daniel’s anti-war position. And not only did he support Obama, he was one of those voices coming from the European chorus. Did you ask him how many Blacks have served or currently serve in the British Parliament, particularly on the front bench? And what are the prospects of the Brits electing a Black Prime Minister in the near future?

Yeah, I know .. he’s had a change of heart. I’d guess having Churchill’s bust returned, gifting the Queen an iPod of Obama speeches and the PM a CD collection of show tunes might have opened his eyes to what racism looks like internationally.

I know he has the ability to sway with his rhetorical skills. A British parliamentarian could read a phone book and sway, reminds me of Obama. But he’s not telling me, and I suspect many others, anything that I didn’t already know about the direction that Obama would take us long before Daniel decided he had made a mistake. Now he’s carrying around our Constitution as his ticket to ride.

Nope, not a fan.

Texas Gal on February 12, 2012 at 5:18 PM

dukecitygirl on February 12, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Don’t forget

Church school renames Three Little Pigs to avoid offending Muslims

by CHRIS BROOKE

Honley Church of England Junior School in Huddersfield, West Yorkshire.

The story of the Three Little Pigs’ battle with the Big Bad Wolf has delighted children since it was written more than 150 years ago.

But the tale highlighting the merits of hardwork and practicality has become the latest to fall victim to political correctness.

A junior school production of the children’s story has been renamed the Three Little Puppies for fear of offending Muslims.

Fallon on February 12, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Obama’s a terrible President but our problems don’t start or end with him. I would say this is the worst part of the Republican party. They’re so obsessed over “getting rid of Obama”. Who cares if you get rid of Obama yet you still have a Romney as President? Yeah it might be a little better, here and there but he won’t lead the charge to cut spending drastically. Have you heard him name one department he’d GET RID OF? Have you seen any plan which points out how he’s going to cut at least 300 billion in REAL CUTS?

No you haven’t.

And you won’t.

Why? Because the modern day Republican party only really cares about two things. Low taxes and continuing an interventionist foreign policy. That’s essentially it. They don’t really care about reducing spending. They don’t particularly care about civil liberties or constitutional wars. It’s just low taxes and maintaining our empire. They don’t want to reduce social welfare programs. They might SAY THEY DO, but if you try to pin them down on what to cut they have no idea.

This is why it’s so difficult for Ron Paul. He actually dares call them on their bluff. He’s actually willing to CUT SPENDING and wow.. it’s almost as though they’re not really interested in cutting spending!

fatlibertarianinokc on February 12, 2012 at 5:31 PM

I can’t play the video.

Is it true that Hannan warned CPAC not to nominate Romney?

BuckeyeSam on February 12, 2012 at 5:34 PM

This video should be shown in every high school American history and civics class in the nation.

onlineanalyst on February 12, 2012 at 5:39 PM

BuckeyeSam on February 12, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Not in this speech.

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 5:39 PM

A junior school production of the children’s story has been renamed the Three Little Puppies for fear of offending Muslims.

Fallon on February 12, 2012 at 5:24 PM

I laughed when I saw this when it was fresh. ‘Slums loathe/fear puppies as much as pigs. Birth of another grievance for Islam. Silly lost Brits.

BL@KBIRD on February 12, 2012 at 5:44 PM

It would be wise to play a video of this speech to both chambers of Congress, too. It certainly would remind the members of their legislative body’s history and responsibility. It would also add more to their brain cells than did Obama’s vacuous State of the Union speeches.

onlineanalyst on February 12, 2012 at 6:00 PM

How did the definition of racism shift? How did we move from expression of a negative about a race being racism, to expression of anything good about whites now being racism?

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Whites have let themselves be convinced that it is racist merely to object to dispossession,
much less to work for their own interests.
Never before has a people been fooled into thinking that there was virtue or nobility in surrendering its heritage,
and giving away to others its place in history,
only whites have been tricked into thinking that love for their own people is somehow “hatred” of others.

Bulletchaser on February 12, 2012 at 6:01 PM

Really love this guy. His vocabulary is impeccable! I very much enjoyed the political analogy of the ancestral vineyards. I wish we had more conservatives on this side of the pond who could articulate conservatism in this way. If we did, I know we would many more join our ranks.

KickandSwimMom on February 12, 2012 at 6:10 PM

The same thing happened in America when we decided that some financial institutions were too big to fail, and the taxpayers ended up holding the bag for their bad investments.

No, Ed, wrong on many levels.

a) “we” didn’t do a thing — people in Washington did.

b) The banks were forced into making those bad investments by the Government. What was Fred and Fann for? What did Mr. Obama do in Chicago to CitiBank?

The things the banks did was to use their influence — their money — to get the Treasury to empty its coffers in their direction.

I can’t blame the banks for having more resources and protecting themselves for problems they really had little responsibility in creating.

Who was it in Government who praised Fann and Fred and the concept of 100% financing? I seem to remember a liberal banker’s wife up there, protecting her investments.

unclesmrgol on February 12, 2012 at 6:13 PM

No, Ed, wrong on many levels.

a) “we” didn’t do a thing — people in Washington did.

b) The banks were forced into making those bad investments by the Government. What was Fred and Fann for? What did Mr. Obama do in Chicago to CitiBank?

The things the banks did was to use their influence — their money — to get the Treasury to empty its coffers in their direction.

I can’t blame the banks for having more resources and protecting themselves for problems they really had little responsibility in creating.

Who was it in Government who praised Fann and Fred and the concept of 100% financing? I seem to remember a liberal banker’s wife up there, protecting her investments.

unclesmrgol on February 12, 2012 at 6:13 PM

I know the poor banks. They really didn’t want all that money they made from bundling liar loans, selling them and then refinancing them did they? The government twisted their arm and made them take all those fees.

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Now THAT is a man with oratorical skills, not the current SCOMF in the White House.

dragonhawk on February 12, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Wonderful and inspiring speech. I especially appreciated his mention of the KEY ISSUE in 2012: Taking back the Senate, widening the conservative hold in the House, and making our voices heard through every state house and city council in the nation. THAT is where the U.S. Constitution placed the fullest power in our country. If we manage to prevent the wrecking of America, it will be from the bottom up. Just as the Tea Party movement is a spontaneous one: of Americans rising by their own volition. 2012 CANNOT be about matching Barack Obama against the GOP’s most “electable” nominee, as anointed by elites whose dinner clubs we poor plebes will never have access to. It has, rather, to be about renewing the institutions of American greatness: Individual Freedom, the U.S. Constitution, our unique system of freely- (and LEGITIMATELY-) elected representative, Republican, government. There has been far too much focus on “personalities” and far too little on the pressing issues of our times, which reach well beyond the office of president — or, rather, the PROPER office of an American president.

minnesoter on February 12, 2012 at 7:25 PM

I like him! Can we import a few dozen of him?

AnotherOpinion on February 12, 2012 at 8:24 PM

When Her Majesty’s prisons have to re-do their bathrooms so the toilets don’t face Mecca, you think they’re doing better than us?

When the EU tells a grocer that he cannot sell kiwis at a discount because they don’t meet their standard for the correct size and he must throw them away, you think they’re doing better than us?

When someone breaks into a Brit’s home and he wrestles the intruder to the ground and the police arrest the homeowner for assault, you think they’re doing better?

When they are not allowed to own a handgun do you think they are doing better than us?

When an elderly English lady has a display of porcelain pigs in her windowsill and the police show up and tells her that she must remove them because it offends Muslims, do you think they’re doing better?

When a British blogger gets arrested for writing on his blog that his culture is being usurped by Islam and political correctness, you think they’re doing better?

When a Catholic hospital there is not allowed to have crucifixes on their walls, you think they’re doing better?

Dude, you’re clueless.

dukecitygirl on February 12, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Except for the hand gun analogy, everything you stated are lies you pulled out of your a$$

Uppereastside on February 12, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Uppereastside on February 12, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Wrong.

Read Londonistan by Melanie Phillips. Ever hear of Lion Heart, the blogger who was arrested?

Read the Daily Telegraph. The Brussels Journal.

You’re the one with something up your a**. And it’s your head, loser.

dukecitygirl on February 12, 2012 at 8:51 PM

http://www.luton-dunstable.co.uk/News/Racial-hatred-arrest-for-internet-blogger.htm?id=306589

Here, ignoramus on uppereastside – I did some work for your lazy ass.

dukecitygirl on February 12, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Really , they changed the toilets so they would not be facing mecca, then the think it is better to point their butt at mecca, anyway the only time they are required to face mecca is when they are praying. What could they be praying for on the stool?

dunce on February 12, 2012 at 10:01 PM

That was a terrific speech. I turned up the volume on my laptop so that my 18-year old son could listen with me. I think it caught his attention, too. I’m going to sign my son up for Hillsdale College’s Constitution 101 online class. Begins Feb. 20.

Pazman on February 12, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Except for the hand gun analogy, everything you stated are lies you pulled out of your a$$

Uppereastside on February 12, 2012 at 8:44 PM

Here is the affirmation that you are an ignorant, insincere, agitator.

Yay, good job.

tom daschle concerned on February 12, 2012 at 10:34 PM

My daughter lives in the UK and they’re in a world o’ hurt on many levels. Let’s not look to them as a shining example of awesome.

Bob's Kid on February 12, 2012 at 11:27 PM

I know the poor banks. They really didn’t want all that money they made from bundling liar loans, selling them and then refinancing them did they? The government twisted their arm and made them take all those fees.

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Like I said, the banks had better connections than the rest of us. The “owners” are a lot less apt to shoot the cow that gives the most milk when they need meat. But in the end, who gave the Government the gun?

unclesmrgol on February 12, 2012 at 11:33 PM

When Her Majesty’s prisons have to re-do their bathrooms so the toilets don’t face Mecca, you think they’re doing better than us?

Absolutely wrong. The toilets had to face away from Mecca. I assume “away” doesn’t mean so your backside or frontside is facing Mecca during the elimination process:

Last year, thousands of pounds of taxpayers’ money was used to ensure toilets at Brixton prison in London did not offend Islamic law.

Muslim prisoners complained of having to sit sideways on toilets so as to not break code.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1061051/Londons-Olympic-Park-toilets-turn-away-Mecca-respect-Islamic-law.html#ixzz1mEXholge

unclesmrgol on February 12, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Like I said, the banks had better connections than the rest of us. The “owners” are a lot less apt to shoot the cow that gives the most milk when they need meat. But in the end, who gave the Government the gun?

unclesmrgol on February 12, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Uncle this is really just the chicken or the egg argument. Were the banks forced to make bad decisions by congress or did they come up with the ideal themselves once they realized they could make a lot of money? Does it matter? The banks made huge profits from fees, CDSs, and CDOs all built on bad loans, and moved the obligations off their balance sheets in the process. Do you really think congress had to twist their arms to get them to take that deal?

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Uncle this is really just the chicken or the egg argument. Were the banks forced to make bad decisions by congress

Yes.

or did they come up with the ideal [sic] themselves once they realized they could make a lot of money?

No.

Does it matter?

Yes. In one case, it’s started by a socially engineering government — of the type that favors 100% loans and rapidly escalating housing prices — all the better to increase the tax base. In the other, it’s caused by banks without proper oversight, whose losses are indemnified by self-same social engineering government.

The banks made huge profits from fees, CDSs, and CDOs all built on bad loans, and moved the obligations off their balance sheets in the process. Do you really think congress had to twist their arms to get them to take that deal?

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 11:51 PM

Yes, but the banks learn quickly. Look at the interaction between Citibank and Attorney Barack Obama in Chicago. Mr. Obama forced the Citibank to make bad loans, and Citibank, in the end, gave that debt to us citizens. The problem is that our Government forced the banks to make these loans, and indemnified them as a negotiating position.

It’s either believe that or believe that the Democrats are even worse doofuses than I think.

unclesmrgol on February 13, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Is there any change we can get this guy to replace Ruth Bader Ginsburg?

Axion on February 13, 2012 at 12:05 AM

Ed, next year howzabout getting a volunteer or two to help you? I bet there are plenty of HA folks in commuting distance to DC who could operate a camera, take notes, or otherwise help you out.

Blatant Blue knows his way around a camera, Fallen Sparrow is quite the scribe…

Think about it.

Laura in Maryland on February 13, 2012 at 12:23 AM

Is there any change we can get this guy to replace Ruth Buzzi Ginsburg?

Axion on February 13, 2012 at 12:05 AM

FIFY

Laura in Maryland on February 13, 2012 at 12:26 AM

It’s time to hold “conservative” elites accoutable. Especially if a Romney, with a straight face, can call himself a conservative. It’s time to return to a constitution based form of government. So, as stated time and time again, for many true conservatives, Romneycare disqualifies Romney.

noeastern on February 12, 2012 at 3:57 PM

We have strayed almost completely as a nation from the Constitution. The difference between a democracy and a constitutional republic is night and day. And the left use their freedoms of speech, protest and intimidation to bludgeon into submission the tenets of the meaning and practice of a Constitutional Republic.

It’s time the voters and public were educated on the differences between the two. Perhaps more sensible choices will be made before the convention.

DevilsPrinciple on February 13, 2012 at 4:39 AM

“I did have the interesting experience of being welcomed with hugs and kisses — literally — by the ordinary people of southern France, Spain, Italy, Greece, Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, and Czech Republic, because I was American.” – J.E. Dyer on February 12, 2012 at 12:34 PM

I had many of the same experiences, particularly when I met the Mayor of Marseille at the City Hall on the harbor at the conclusion of our motorcycle run along the Riviera. He said to me:
“We are nothing like ‘the people’ in Paris”.
He summed it up rather well, although I never had bad service in Paris either.
For you travelers, you’d be surprised how far it goes with the locals if you learn even a few phrases in the native language. Even a “please”, “thank you”, “hello”, “good morning”, “good day / night”, evening, etc.
I never met the “Ugly American”, but plenty of nasty Brits on holiday in Germany.
I mean … Why bother, Brits? You hate the Germans and they hate you. Get over it.

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on February 13, 2012 at 8:21 AM

God I wish this guy was an American citizen. President Hannan.

JustJP on February 13, 2012 at 9:13 AM

What an inspiring speaker! I have goosebumps.

disa on February 13, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Awesome, Mr. Daniel Hannan!
You’ve crystalized the mood, the issues, and the energy with a warning to all of us.
And I agree, we are Europe if we don’t turn this ship around!
Vote Santorum!
Vote Tea Party!
Vote Conservative!

Mark7788 on February 13, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Government forced the banks to make these loans, and indemnified them as a negotiating position.

unclesmrgol on February 13, 2012 at 12:04 AM

That’s where you’re wrong. Anybody and everybody got those loans. It didn’t matter who you were or what you actually made, and we all know if it had been solely a matter of government force then it would have been limited to minorities. This proves that even if the banks were originally forced to make these loans they quickly came to realize there was gold in them thar hills, and virtually no risk, and from that point the bubble collapse was inevitable.

DFCtomm on February 13, 2012 at 11:59 AM

Hannon campaigned for the Euro Socialist Marxist Obama for 3 years up until 2010, when he turned on his chosen one. Most of us won’t forget. Now he is making a killing selling books giving advice to Americans on how not to be Euro Socialist Marxists. Unbelievable! Sucker born every day.

nottakingsides on February 13, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Damn fine stuff. I think he probably could have mentioned the “Anglosphere” without calling it “white” (there are plenty of members of the ‘sphere who don’t qualify as white), but, apart from that, this was just the thing.

morganfrost on February 13, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Wow. He nailed it.

DCnative on February 13, 2012 at 2:23 PM

No chance he was born here and spiritied to UK and an infant?

StevC on February 14, 2012 at 1:40 PM

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