Video: Daniel Hannan’s warning to CPAC — and America

posted at 10:30 am on February 12, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday, I had a chance to interview an honored CPAC guest, Member of the European Parliament Daniel Hannan. Unfortunately for me and for all of us, the audio did not record properly on the video, a problem I only discovered long after CPAC packed up for the day. Since I was the cameraman as well as the interviewer, I took no notes, but I can give you a couple of lasting impressions of the discussion.

Hannan was a friendly and informal interview subject; when I asked him how he preferred to be addressed, he smiled and replied, “How about Daniel?” Daniel told me that I probably wouldn’t believe this, but the British are more informal than Americans when it comes to the protocols of dealing with public officials. (I believe him now, certainly.) We spoke at length about the fiscal crisis facing Greece and the EU, which Daniel explained is a lot more nuanced than we think — and worse. He expressed sympathy for the Greek people resisting the austerity measures being imposed on them, since he feels that the people who created the crisis are precisely the ones who will get bailed out on the backs of the Greek people. The same thing happened in America when we decided that some financial institutions were too big to fail, and the taxpayers ended up holding the bag for their bad investments.

What, then, is the solution? Daniel then pulled a copy of the US Constitution out of his jacket pocket and explained that we needed to return the model of government outlined in “the most brilliant document” ever created for political structure. We discussed the issue of the Fed and the dislocation from the gold standard, as Daniel insisted that governments will manipulate currency rather than make the necessary tough decisions to live within their means until forced to stop doing so. The British, he said, have already devalued their currency by 20% through three rounds of quantitative easing despite a clear lack of positive results from the first two rounds, and we are about to do the same. I asked him about whether he felt any affinity for Ron Paul’s efforts, and while Daniel declined to support Paul overall, he does find it remarkable how Paul’s financial policies were considered “fringe” five years ago, and now Austrian economics and Paul’s views on monetary policy have become a lot more mainstream — due to reality overtaking us on debt and deficits.

I apologize for the technical difficulties that ended up making my interview video with Daniel Hannan a silent movie. In recompense, I offer you the full video of Daniel’s highly entertaining address to CPAC via The Right Scoop (who has much more from CPAC as well), which got rave reviews from Blogger Row. He is clearly a friend to America; in our interview, Daniel emphasized the mutual affection that the people of both countries have for each other, and insisted that the “special relationship” between the governments is a separate matter. But like any friend who sees their closest friend about to walk over the same cliff as they have, Daniel is warning us not to follow in Europe’s footsteps. Hopefully, it is not too late.


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Now that is an inspirational speech!!

xxessw on February 12, 2012 at 10:33 AM

The word Rhetoric has been bastardized over the years. It was once a proud and inspiring quality to possess. It means … “The ancient art of argumentation and discourse. When we write or speak to convince others of what we believe, we are “rhetors.” This word, in most modern political parlance, has come to be synonymous with the word Demagogue … “When a leader who makes use of popular prejudices and false claims and promises in order to gain power.” Perhaps this is because so many of our modern politicians use this tactic as a first resort?

Here is presented true rhetoric for you perusal. Here is a man I wish was running in our country. A man who truly understands the problems we have and the consequences of not dealing with them now.

If rhetoric is still what Aristotle envisioned, Daniel Hannan is its model . This speech is a classic example of the three pillars of Rhetoric … “Logos (using logical arguments such as induction and deduction) … Pathos (creating an emotional reaction in the audience) … Ethos (projecting a trustworthy, authoritative, or charismatic image)”

It certainly connected with me.

MarkCasper on February 12, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Watched this yesterday and was wondering when it would be posted on here.

xxessw on February 12, 2012 at 10:34 AM

I’ve watched Daniel Hannan’s remarks on Cavuto and Hannity over these past few years and he’s always on the money. He also has been raising the red flag for years.

CoffeeLover on February 12, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Daniel then pulled a copy of the US Constitution out of his jacket pocket and explained that we needed to return the model of government outlined in “the most brilliant document” ever created for political structure.

Samuel Adams
“Our contest is not only whether we ourselves shall be free, but whether there shall be left to mankind an asylum on earth for civil and religious liberty.”

We are the last stand for freedom in the world.

JellyToast on February 12, 2012 at 10:38 AM

I’m not done watching all the speeches but of those seen, his is the best.

Cindy Munford on February 12, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Hannan is that incredibly rare and endangered species – a British conservative.

Needless to say he is viewed as an embarrassment by the so-called ‘Conservative Party’ who are effectively 1970s Democrats.

CorporatePiggy on February 12, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Daniel then pulled a copy of the US Constitution out of his jacket pocket and explained that we needed to return the model of government outlined in “the most brilliant document” ever created for political structure.

Did he check that opinion out with Raisin Ginsberg?

galtani on February 12, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Thank you, Ed.

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Daniel then pulled a copy of the US Constitution out of his jacket pocket and explained that we needed to return the model of government outlined in “the most brilliant document” ever created for political structure.

….and look what’s happening to it!

KOOLAID2 on February 12, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Paul’s financial policies were considered “fringe” five years ago, and now Austrian economics and Paul’s views on monetary policy have become a lot more mainstream — due to reality overtaking us on debt and deficits.

Thankfully there have been many advocating for Paul’s fiscal policies besides Paul who are a lot more credible & less wacky.

itsnotaboutme on February 12, 2012 at 10:50 AM

Notice: No notes!

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 10:50 AM

So will the British come and rescue us or will we go rescue them? Or will we meet in Greenland and start over?

Bishop on February 12, 2012 at 11:00 AM

Did he keep referring to the “white Anglosphere” or was I mishearing that?

Meryl Yourish on February 12, 2012 at 11:03 AM

Hey Ed

Send your video to the guy at Bad Lip Reading…?

beatcanvas on February 12, 2012 at 11:04 AM

The New Road to Serfdom

Daniel Hannen

http://www.hillsdale.edu/seminars/offcampus/freemarketforum/pastseminars/2011.asp

mountainaires on February 12, 2012 at 11:09 AM

Notice: No notes!

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 10:50 AM

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As the Brits like to say “Indeed”. I am glad I was not the only one to notice this.

On reflection, I think this was the best speech of the convention.

diogenes on February 12, 2012 at 11:10 AM

Bill Clinton Monument. Ha.

Dongemaharu on February 12, 2012 at 11:11 AM

Thanks for posting this! Inspirational.

SoldiersMom on February 12, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Having lived in Germany in the second half of the 1990s (a sabbatical cum entrepreneurial endeavor), I read, watched, and listened as the EU tried to form itself.

Germany and France were all for it, but were highly skeptical of Italy and their regular (wild) monetary fluctuations (I believe that the exchange rate at the time was 1,700 Lira per dollar) and afraid that some countries (like the Brits and Kroner-driven) economies were balking.
In 1996, in my first business deal with the “EyeTalians”, they demanded to be paid in Euros (which didn’t exist at the time and wouldn’t for years). They just kinda guessed what it would cost in Dollars.
As the EU discussions progressed, it was very apparent just which countries would sign on and why. The economically depressed were among the first of course.
To make a long story short, as I told my Euro friends, “It’ll never work”, they just shrugged. Much like my German friends who were ecstatic when The Wall came down, I told them, “Be careful what you wish for”.
And so it goes. There are way too many different cultures, societies, etc. to make that “Union” anything resembling “unified”.
When unveiled on New Year’s Day 2002, I was in Deutschland. The € was .92 to the dollar. Now that was one great investment!

In other words, the EU was destined for failure. The dirty little secret is the fact that the Euros weren’t trying to compete with America, they were trying to bury it.

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on February 12, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Hopefully, it is not too late.

It’s not too late, Ron Paul is still in the race! The problem is that Republicans are stuck in the past and obstinately refuse to acknowledge that we’re bankrupt, so instead of cutting real spending they embrace the existing policy of generational theft, which is essentially what Daniel is warning against.

FloatingRock on February 12, 2012 at 11:19 AM

What, then, is the solution? Daniel then pulled a copy of the US Constitution out of his jacket pocket and explained that we needed to return the model of government outlined in “the most brilliant document” ever created for political structure.

In practical terms, the Constitution is dead. Progressive democrat presidents (and some bone-headed Republicans) will continue to appoint Marxist Supreme Court justices, and those justices will continue to “interpret” the Constitution to have all sorts of government powers it does not, and all sorts of limits on individual freedom it does not. And there won’t be a thing we can do about it. The Supreme Court is, after all, supreme. This is, I think, why people like Jim DeMint are saying that we need to find common cause with Libertarians. Make freedom and liberty fundamental American qualities, again, and a Marxist-majority court (which we most certainly will have in the future) might be a little bit afraid to go too far. Might be. Maybe.

Rational Thought on February 12, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Hannan hits a home run, but then he is an excellent speaker – remember his “Speech Heard Round the World”, when he lambasted then Prime Minister Gordon Brown? “The truth, Prime Minister, is that you have run out of our money… You cannot spend your way out of recession or borrow your way out of debt”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94lW6Y4tBXs

dukecitygirl on February 12, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Following Europe down their path won’t merely result in America ending up in Europe’s present condition. Europe was able to go down their path bacause they could outsource military protection to the US via NATO and spend all the freed-up cash on their welfare states (though the cash has now run out). Their socialized medicine schemes didn’t deny them new medicines and procedures, because Americans simply were charged more to cover medical companies’ European losses. The American military is now being decimated, and the final Obamacare jackboot will hit our necks in 2014. There won’t be some benevolent protector to fend off our ever-present enemies, and nobody will be left to pay for tomorrow’s medical breakthroughs. The consequences of America following Europe’s path will make Europe’s current problems look like petty inconveniences.

86 on February 12, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Make freedom and liberty fundamental American qualities, again, and a Marxist-majority court (which we most certainly will have in the future) might be a little bit afraid to go too far. Might be. Maybe.

Rational Thought on February 12, 2012 at 11:19 AM

You’re contradicting yourself here, RT, although I empathize with the sentiments. How, exactly, do we make freedom and liberty fundamental American qualities if the Constitution, and thereby the legal mechanisms for doing so, is dead?

There is only one thing such people fear. Let us pray that it does not have to come to that.

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Dan Hannan…. the man who suggested that Iceland pointed the way for the rest of the world… before it failed.

Dan Hannan is nobody.

lexhamfox on February 12, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Hannan is simply brilliant and so well spoken.If we could trade him for Boehner it would be a new day for the country.
Here’s a few quotes:
“When we(conservatives) are optimistic we win,”
“We need a hint of the best is yet to come”,
“It(Conservatism) “liberates the evils of fascism”
“Our character comes from the constitution” not more and bigger govt.
Priceless stuff from someone who can clearly see where we have been and where we are going.

rodguy911 on February 12, 2012 at 11:30 AM

Dan Hannan…. the man who suggested that Iceland pointed the way for the rest of the world… before it failed.

Dan Hannan is nobody.

lexhamfox on February 12, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Awww our resident RINO is fearful that is clear.

CW on February 12, 2012 at 11:31 AM

The problem is that if Republicans actually heed Daniel’s warning then they won’t be able to do all the nation building and fight all the neocon proxy wars that they want to fight. If they heed his advice then we’ll have to politically unpopular things like cut spending. So instead they embrace the generational theft and hope that the economy will eventually get better on it’s own and everything will work itself out. Wishful thinking.

We know there’s a demographic bubble, intelligent people know that the path we’ve been on even before Obama is unsustainable, but Republican voters, and the GOP part of the MSM that shapes their opinions, refuse to come to terms with that fact and are desperately trying to pick from one of the three candidates they think will allow them to relive their glory days but the glory days are over, the bill has already come due.

When you’re in a hole, stop digging. Vote for Ron Paul.

FloatingRock on February 12, 2012 at 11:32 AM

I enjoyed the speech. One criticism: in his remarks he moves from the Declaration of Independence to the Constitution a bit clumsily as when he speaks of “life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness” and then says Jefferson wasn’t acutally there in Philadelphia, which applies to the Constitution, not the Declaration.

Did he mean to say that Reagan said in his “artful” way and it just inadvertantly came out “artless”? Or does artless have a different meaning in British English?

radjah shelduck on February 12, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Boy he fired me up!

esnap on February 12, 2012 at 11:33 AM

When you’re in a hole that you can’t afford, stop digging, climb out and start filling it in.

FloatingRock on February 12, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Great speech. I wish we had more conservatives like that in the GOP. Some great anti-lifetime politician stuff in there. Smaller government and not looking to D.C. as a permanent gig. Exactly.

Dongemaharu on February 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Dear God, I wish this man could run for POTUS!!!

NickDeringer on February 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM

…Instead both parties are operating on the premise that when we’re in a hole, instead of stopping or filling it in, they’re virtually enslaving America’s youth, putting them in chains of debt and forcing them to keep digging while the old people climb out and enjoy the finer things in life while the world burns around them.

FloatingRock on February 12, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Hannah like Bush gets it wrong. Our success isn’t because of our political structures. George Bush thought the same, and that’s why he thought he could Americanize Iraq, and also why he supported Amnesty. He thought that if you could establish the conditions that exist in America then you could produce Americans. Hannah thinks our political structures are our success. They are both wrong. It is the people that ensures our political structures function as they do, and when they fail it won’t be because the Constitution was wrong, but because the American people failed.

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 11:44 AM

It certainly connected with me.

MarkCasper on February 12, 2012 at 10:34 AM

No kidding! What a moving speech. Bummer about your interview getting ruined Ed.

Mord on February 12, 2012 at 11:46 AM

You’re contradicting yourself here, RT, although I empathize with the sentiments. How, exactly, do we make freedom and liberty fundamental American qualities if the Constitution, and thereby the legal mechanisms for doing so, is dead?

There is only one thing such people fear. Let us pray that it does not have to come to that.

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 11:26 AM

I didn’t mean to contradict. I meant make freedom fundamental in our national conversation: in our schools, by our leaders, in our cities and states. We do get the government we deserve, as the saying goes. Too many Americans are falling into the “rights” trap (contraception “rights,” for example), and abandoning freedom. I don’t really know how to move the conversation where it needs to go. I don’t even know if it’s possible anymore. But common cause with libertarians seems like a good place to start.

Rational Thought on February 12, 2012 at 11:47 AM

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Good point.

FloatingRock on February 12, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Dan Hannan…. the man who suggested that Iceland pointed the way for the rest of the world… before it failed.

Dan Hannan is nobody.

lexhamfox on February 12, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Iceland let the free market work as it should, and now after a few years of turmoil they are recovering. They made the right choice. Our attempt to thwart the market will ensure stagflation and when things finally grind to a halt we will experience even greater turmoil because of all the debt created in a vain attempt to stop the natural market cycle.

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 11:48 AM

Did he keep referring to the “white Anglosphere” or was I mishearing that?

Meryl Yourish on February 12, 2012 at 11:03 AM

He first called it “world wide Anglosphere” then the second time called it “wide Anglosphere”.

dukecitygirl on February 12, 2012 at 11:50 AM

The problem is that if Republicans actually heed Daniel’s warning then they won’t be able to do all the nation building and fight all the neocon proxy wars that they want to fight.
(snip)
When you’re in a hole, stop digging. Vote for Ron Paul.

FloatingRock on February 12, 2012 at 11:32 AM

You mean like Egypt and “Lybia” of course.

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on February 12, 2012 at 11:50 AM

It is really horrible that most we have elected in dc don’t give a flying flit about our constitution or what it stands for. We have to have a person from across the ‘pond’ to make it clear how precious it is! I have always loved Daniel everytime I have watch him. Too bad we don’t have hundreds just like him in dc! BTW, that goes for most court judges also and that forked tongue snake we now have in the wh!
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letget on February 12, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Dan Hannan is nobody.

lexhamfox on February 12, 2012 at 11:28 AM

If he is “nobody” what does that make you? A pimple on the arse of the world?

dukecitygirl on February 12, 2012 at 11:51 AM

Love this guy.

Philly on February 12, 2012 at 11:51 AM

The Hannan speech was the second best of the conference. Will the Republicans listen and learn from him? Not likely!

Neox99 on February 12, 2012 at 11:52 AM

Did he mean to say that Reagan said in his “artful” way and it just inadvertantly came out “artless”? Or does artless have a different meaning in British English?

radjah shelduck on February 12, 2012 at 11:33 AM

He used “artless” in a non pejorative sense. He meant simple and straightforward.

dukecitygirl on February 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM


Did he mean to say that Reagan said in his “artful” way and it just inadvertantly came out “artless”? Or does artless have a different meaning in British English?

radjah shelduck on February 12, 2012 at 11:33 AM

The two words have the same meaning in American and British English. Artful means “crafty or cunning”, while artless means “natural, simple, without affectation or pretention”.

HTL on February 12, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Hannah like Bush gets it wrong. Our success isn’t because of our political structures. George Bush thought the same, and that’s why he thought he could Americanize Iraq, and also why he supported Amnesty. He thought that if you could establish the conditions that exist in America then you could produce Americans. Hannah thinks our political structures are our success. They are both wrong. It is the people that ensures our political structures function as they do, and when they fail it won’t be because the Constitution was wrong, but because the American people failed.

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 11:44 AM

He never said “political structures”. He used the term “institutions” – a big difference. Not all institutions are political.

dukecitygirl on February 12, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Man, maybe Romney could ask him for a blood transfusion or something.

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Did he keep referring to the “white Anglosphere” or was I mishearing that?

Meryl Yourish on February 12, 2012 at 11:03 AM

“God bless the alliance of the free English-speaking nations.”

That’s what he ended with.

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Karl Magnus on February 12, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Iraq and Afghanistan were both proxy wars. The Taliban was created by Pakistan with Saudi oil money. The only way to win Afghanistan is to defeat Pakistan, but that would be dangerous and risky so instead we fought a war in Afghanistan that we couldn’t really win because the heart of the enemy was always elsewhere. I’m not sure Iraq even rises to the level of proxy war, actually. It’s worse. As near as I can tell 9/11 was used as a false pretext to settle old scores between King Bush the First and Saddam.

I supported going into both nations in theory. If we wanted to strike at one of the hearts of our enemy after 9/11 and attack Iran then it would make sense to invade them from multiple fronts, Iraq and Afghanistan, but instead we got bogged down nation building both countries and let the public’s zeal for war fade.

FloatingRock on February 12, 2012 at 12:03 PM

dukecitygirl on February 12, 2012 at 11:54 AM

4:41 is the beginning. He later said:

Your founders understood this. Your founders understood this very clearly. They didn’t think there was some magical genetic property in the new world that made people this way. They believed firmly that their republican system of government would have the same happy effects anywhere it was tried.

How has that worked out in Iraq? I believe in American exceptionalism, but it doesn’t reside in the earth of North America, and it doesn’t reside in our structures no matter how great the document they are based on. American exceptionalism lies within Americans.

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 12:09 PM

What a great speaker. He almost choked up at the end when he was talking about the metaphor of the American vineyards, of how our precious seed of liberty might be lost if we don’t do something about it.

It was a revelation to me watching Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg a few weeks ago in Egypt, saying the US Constitution should not be any model for any country’s new constitution. And Obama has even said how lacking our constitution is, because it gives our freedoms, but not our rights to health care, or food, or any of the other things that make for big government.

My revelation was that there are people in power who don’t admire the US Constitution. When they gave their oath, such as for the President:

“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”

or a variation for other branches of government, that they don’t really mean it. That their REAL intention is to replace it with their vision of government.

I believe the constitution is worth preserving, protecting, and defending. So many others in the highest positions of power don’t believe that.

Paul-Cincy on February 12, 2012 at 12:11 PM

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Allow me to add my voice in agreement with you on this point. De’ Togueville said the same thing in “Democracy In America”

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 12:15 PM

No, he said “wide anglosphere of English-speaking Nations”.

Who is John Galt on February 12, 2012 at 12:20 PM

As near as I can tell 9/11 was used as a false pretext to settle old scores between King Bush the First and Saddam.
(snip)

FloatingRock on February 12, 2012 at 12:03 PM

We disagree. Saddam was a genuine threat. What do you think those convoys transported from Irag to Syria contained? No thanks to our “ally” Turkey of course.

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on February 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM

lexhamfox,

Dan Hannan…. the man who suggested that Iceland pointed the way for the rest of the world… before it failed.

Dan Hannan is nobody.

The people of Iceland told the bankers to stuff it and defaulted rather than bail them out. They’ve emerged from a period of economic chaos and are experiencing real GDP growth and a genuine economic recovery.

Iceland is an example for the rest of the debt saturated world, particularly Greece.

Mike Honcho on February 12, 2012 at 12:26 PM

Your founders understood this. Your founders understood this very clearly. They didn’t think there was some magical genetic property in the new world that made people this way. They believed firmly that their republican system of government would have the same happy effects anywhere it was tried.

How has that worked out in Iraq? I believe in American exceptionalism, but it doesn’t reside in the earth of North America, and it doesn’t reside in our structures no matter how great the document they are based on. American exceptionalism lies within Americans.

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 12:09 PM

That’s not what you argued. You’re creating a straw man.

And he is right about the system created by our founding fathers: that a “small government, big citizen” (his words) would have happy effects anywhere.

dukecitygirl on February 12, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Oh..My…G-d…..yes, yes, this man is more American than 53% of America.

Who is John Galt on February 12, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Perhaps it takes someone from the outside to look at a situation and describe it in its essential nature. We’ve lived here and dealt with all the vast array of issues and events of our lives as they arose on our own personal radars, and seldom had the time or the visibility to look up at the far horizon and get a clear idea of where we’re really going.
In that sense, the last three years have done something truly extraordinary to us all, in making plainly visible the eventual destination of all our short-term narrow-focus solutions. Like the final scene from “Thelma and Louise”, the awful chasm at the end of all our twisting and turning is plainly visible now, and we’ll decide this November exactly what we’re going to do about it.
This year we’ll decide the fate America. Not the country or the government of America, but the idea of America. And not just for ourselves but for all humanity, and “for a vast future as well”.
If in fact, America is dead, then it died where it once lived, in the hearts and minds of Americans. Not in any structures or laws or institutional arrangements, but in us. We will have been the ones who let it slip quietly away, whether through apathy or impotence or ignorance doesn’t matter. Our children will look back upon us and ask why. And if we fail again this year, the only question to be answered is; how will we explain ourselves? How indeed!

Lew on February 12, 2012 at 12:31 PM

The dirty little secret is the fact that the Euros weren’t trying to compete with America, they were trying to bury it.

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on February 12, 2012 at 11:15 AM

I was in Europe in the ’90s too, and you’re right — about the West European political class. This theme was actually quite open in Europe. News of it never really made it across the pond.

I did have the interesting experience of being welcomed with hugs and kisses — literally — by the ordinary people of southern France, Spain, Italy, Greece, Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, and Czech Republic, because I was American. One middle-aged Dutch fellow said earnestly, “I don’t believe what the newspapers say about America. Please do not believe what the newspapers say about us.”

The nations, individually, have voted against joining a number of the EU conventions, and the peoples lean consistently to the right of the EU leadership. But the self-satisfied privileged class is far older and more entrenched in Europe than it is here. It has simply decked itself out in new political trappings, and added a “colonial” descendant or two.

J.E. Dyer on February 12, 2012 at 12:34 PM

The problem IMO is that there are far too many immature Americans who would prefer to sell thier souls and their bodies to the dirty oldmen in Washington (in both parties) tha seduced them with free lunches -guilt free abortions -guilt free anger and payoff for past slavery none of us were involved with- eco-worship in exchange for eco-votes -free lunches with dessert for unions and government workers etc.to replace those who loath losing their power over others(in both parties)

It is the cost of firing God and letting government determine what id right and what is wrong.

Don L on February 12, 2012 at 12:34 PM

I don’t really know how to move the conversation where it needs to go. I don’t even know if it’s possible anymore. But common cause with libertarians seems like a good place to start.

Rational Thought on February 12, 2012 at 11:47 AM

I’m a FiCon, SoLib, libertarian “Don’t Tread On Me!” at heart.

I want Fiscal Conservatism because it’s my freakin’ money, leave me alone. Socially, I’m with Jefferson – “If it neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg, I care not” (see FiCon).

Which is pretty damn libertarian (small L).

I believe the soul of the GOP was libertarian. We need to remind ourselves of the common cause: “Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness”.

Who is John Galt on February 12, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Oh..My…G-d…..yes, yes, this man is more American than 53% of America.

Who is John Galt on February 12, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Sad…but true!

KOOLAID2 on February 12, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Did he keep referring to the “white Anglosphere” or was I mishearing that?

Meryl Yourish on February 12, 2012 at 11:03 AM

I believe you misheard that; there were two instances:

10:23 “[Reading from the Declaration of Independence and then commenting on the parallels with the EU] ‘He’s combined with others to subject us to a jurisdiction foreign to our constitution and unacknowledged by our laws … For cutting off our trade with all parts of the world’ particularly with the wider community of free English-speaking democracies.”

23:23 “And I’ve made it my life’s work to try and reverse that process. To try and take Britain out of this false and synthetic alignment in Europe and to rejoin the wider Anglosphere and the community of free English-speaking nations.”

Anyway, my new ticket? Palin/Hannan 2012!

ShainS on February 12, 2012 at 12:42 PM

God willing, someday Daniel Hannan will be Prime Minister and Sarah Palin President of the United States, and the world will be better for it. Like Thatcher and Reagan then, the world needs Hannan and Palin.

Jurisprudence on February 12, 2012 at 12:46 PM

I think the American spirit came from the frontier. Go get some acreage, create something from nothing, plow, build a house, a barn, raise some food and feed a growing family. When evildoers showed up to “share the wealth”, you shot them as they deserved. They could have taken a stake and built something for themselves, as you did, but chose to leach and steal.

With the closing of the frontier, as population surged, the way to get ahead became screaming loudly until the politicians had to listen, and buy votes. This is where we are now stuck.

We need a New Frontier. Guess where?

Who is John Galt on February 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Karl Magnus on February 12, 2012 at 12:22 PM

There are genuine threats all over the world, we can’t afford to eliminate them all. After 9/11 we had bigger priorities but instead we squandered our efforts nation building Iraq.

FloatingRock on February 12, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Jurisprudence on February 12, 2012 at 12:46 PM

This might be the only way to avert a new Dark Age. Because people’s responses to the Commie ain’t civilization-friendly, in terms of infrastructure.

Riots and arson, etc. ten to take down the Internet, the power grid, and the plumbing.

So, Dark Ages. THIS is what we are fighting.

Bishop, are you interviewing for Bunker Denizens? More the merrier, and I can probably pass muster…

Who is John Galt on February 12, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Please tell me this guy has a Hawaiian birth certificate?

EddieC on February 12, 2012 at 1:01 PM

Dan Hannan…. the man who suggested that Iceland pointed the way for the rest of the world… before it failed.

Dan Hannan is nobody.

lexhamfox on February 12, 2012 at 11:28 AM

“..well, you might very well think that; I could not possibly comment..”

~F. U.

;-)

The War Planner on February 12, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Dan Hannan, is a fine and decent man,I think highly of him. In particular I enjoyed his remarks pertaining to the grape vines. Great analogy. We could certainly use more of his ilk.

Bmore on February 12, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Thanks, Ed. Excellent speech from Hannan.

J.E. Dyer on February 12, 2012 at 1:07 PM

God willing, someday Daniel Hannan will be Prime Minister and Sarah Palin President of the United States, and the world will be better for it. Like Thatcher and Reagan then, the world needs Hannan and Palin.

Jurisprudence on February 12, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Well worth repeating.

Bmore on February 12, 2012 at 1:08 PM

I think the American spirit came from the frontier.

Who is John Galt on February 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM

De Toqueville wrote that regardless of where he went, whether a mud flat on the plains or a stately manor on Beacon Hill, there were always two books on the mantle: Shakespeare and …the Bible.

Today, not so much.

THAT’S where the American spirit came from.

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 1:08 PM

Dan Hannan is nobody.

lexhamfox on February 12, 2012 at 11:28 AM

And just who might you be? I’ve never heard of you, not once, anywhere. What have you done to advance Conservatism. I’ll tell you what, 0. As Daniel might say, Bugger off!

Bmore on February 12, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Dan Hannan…. the man who suggested that Iceland pointed the way for the rest of the world… before it failed.

Dan Hannan is nobody.

lexhamfox on February 12, 2012 at 11:28 AM

You’ve really gotta stop eating those mushrooms you found in the field behind your house.

Dopenstrange on February 12, 2012 at 1:12 PM

The problem IMO is that there are far too many immature Americans who would prefer to sell thier souls and their bodies to the dirty oldmen in Washington (in both parties) tha seduced them with free lunches -guilt free abortions -guilt free anger and payoff for past slavery none of us were involved with- eco-worship in exchange for eco-votes -free lunches with dessert for unions and government workers etc.to replace those who loath losing their power over others(in both parties)

It is the cost of firing God and letting government determine what id right and what is wrong.

Don L on February 12, 2012 at 12:34 PM

The truly sad part is that the free lunch is so meager. I have family members that have taken advantage of entitlement programs most of their adult lives and I have been truly amazed at the amount of work they’ve had to do to navigate the system, not to mention the frustration they’ve had to endure from the very same system all for a small amount of money.

DFCtomm on February 12, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Hannan is wrong. Our exceptional culture doesn’t come from our institutions. It’s the other way round – our institutions and much else arise from our culture. Our institutions did not send us to war with the Nazis or make us resolutely resist and defeat the Communists but rather the instincts and values of our people.

But make no mistake, the political class is continually whittling away at the culture. When the culture is reshaped and corrupted, the institutions will make no difference. That is how we’ve reached the point where nearly half of Americans have a government dependency – because in many quarters it is no longer considered shameful. And we’ve reached this point with nearly the same checks and balances as have existed from 1787.

In fact, today it seems to me that the checks and balances are just another way for the politically powerful and connected to extort money from the rest of us and to exercise power over us.

edshepp on February 12, 2012 at 1:20 PM

I think the American spirit came from the frontier.

Who is John Galt on February 12, 2012 at 12:47 PM

It’s tricky attempting to discern earlier peoples’ motivations from current ideas and examples. Our ideas may be too heavily influenced by assumptions that have crept into the subconcious unawares and accepted as fact uncritically.

Better to go back to the source and examine it from their perspective. If you have the time, and have not already done so, read Alexis De’Togueville’s description of what he observed as to what made the American spirit so exceptional in his day.

It’s enlightening.

Cleombrotus on February 12, 2012 at 1:25 PM

Daniel then pulled a copy of the US Constitution out of his jacket pocket and explained that we needed to return the model of government outlined in “the most brilliant document” ever created for political structure.

Wait, what? We have someone, who’s forebears we fought against to found that document, telling us to return to it while one of our Supreme Court Justices, sworn to uphold our Constitution, telling others to ignore that document? Oy vey! I need a drink.

rbj on February 12, 2012 at 1:32 PM

Hopefully it’s not too late.

It’s not. And no, not because of Ron Paul or any other leader.

It boils down to something very simple. Do we decide to bring the ideal of America (as articulated in the DOI and Constitution) back into the world or do we sit on our rumps and let the whole thing fall apart?

Read some Plato. Read the Bible, esp. the part that says a man is as he thinks he is. It’s much like an artist who has a beautiful image in his head. Does he put it down on canvas so that the world can see and experience it, or does he not trouble himself, and let the image die with him?

The difference for us is that putting our image on canvas will cost us, personally. As in sacrificing hobbies, fortunes, ‘me-time’, family-time, relationships, reputations and even lives. I know there are still people in this country willing to do so. But are there enough? And what will spur them on to do so?

It all remains to be answered.

avgjo on February 12, 2012 at 1:48 PM

That speech was a thing of beauty.

Our institutions did not send us to war with the Nazis

That’s true, it was the Japanese. Americans wanted nothing to do with the war in Europe. Not even Hitler was bad enough…

yubley on February 12, 2012 at 1:52 PM

As near as I can tell 9/11 was used as a false pretext to settle old scores between King Bush the First and Saddam.

FloatingRock on February 12, 2012 at 12:03 PM

LOL, this is a fallacious theory often advanced by the BDS Left. It’s disturbing to see that others are buying into it.

I assume when you refer to “old scores between King Bush the First and Saddam” you’re referring to Saddam’s attempted assassination of Pappy Bush in 1993.

First of all, that attempt did happen, despite many laughable attempts by the Left to say it didn’t, and Iraq was conclusively linked to it. And in 2002, when Congress passed the Iraq Resolution, said assassination attempt was prominently mentioned as one of a dozen reasons that Iraq was deemed a threat to our national security. So there was no “false” attached to that in any way; it was one of the reasons we went into Iraq, and the Resolution clearly mentions it.

Second, the 2002 Iraq Resolution correctly stated that al Qaeda, the same organization that carried out 9/11, was known to be operating in Iraq. This was in fact old news, as the Clinton Justice Department stated the same thing when they indicted bin Laden in 1998.

But the 2002 Iraq Resolution never explicitly claimed that Iraq participated in 9/11. All it claimed was that al Qaeda was present in Iraq.

We can argue until the cows come home about whether or not Iraq participated in 9/11, but that is not relevant to your claim, which is that 9/11 was used as an “excuse” to go into Iraq. If it were, the Resolution would say so. It doesn’t.

You really should read that document in its entirety sometime. if more people did, we would all be more informed on this subject.

Now if you’re talking about the other “unsettled business” between Pappy Bush and Saddam, that’s a non-starter. We never intended to go all the way to Baghdad in that war, because our Alliance Allies refused to let us do so.

Del Dolemonte on February 12, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Dan Hannan is nobody.

lexhamfox on February 12, 2012 at 11:28 AM

And just who might you be? I’ve never heard of you, not once, anywhere. What have you done to advance Conservatism. I’ll tell you what, 0. As Daniel might say, Bugger off!

Bmore on February 12, 2012 at 1:11 PM

lex is one of the comedians from the large Crew that posted at Ed’s prior blog, Captain’s Quarters and then sailed over here with him a few years back.

Del Dolemonte on February 12, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Hey Ed!
Do you think that this listing of Federal entitlements would have anything to do with the problems we have? Very few of us outside the Beltway are aware that Congress staffers number around 10,000 and 2000 of them make the maximum salary of $174,000. Would you care to guess how many relatives of the Congress draw a check from this listing.
http://www.usa.gov/directory/federal/index.shtml

mixplix on February 12, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Del Dolemonte on February 12, 2012 at 2:09 PM

Thanks, I read Captain Quarters daily, back when. Is lex snarking or serious? Being new I still am in the development stage on the relationship front. I didn’t always read all the comments here or at Ed’s old joint.

Bmore on February 12, 2012 at 2:18 PM

great speech by Daniel Hannan…it’s right there with allen west speech for best in CPAC this year in my opinion…him becoming prime minister of england and geert wilders for the netherlands would be too awesome and i hope it happens some day

sadsushi on February 12, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Another thing I love about Daniel, and Sarah for that matter, it appeared they they did not use a teleprompter! They had some notes and just let their thought flow out their mouth. bho can’t go potty if totus doesn’t tell him how to unzip!
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letget on February 12, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Late, but Sarah on fox right now smoking Chris Wallace and defending her speech…”Do you trust that Mitt romney is a true conservative?”….she says he’s “evolving toward that”.

Hmm. She says she’s “not convinced” and that’s why he’s stuck at 30%.

Who is John Galt on February 12, 2012 at 2:28 PM

It always takes someone from the outside who has lost their freedoms to appreciate the freedoms we have in this country.

banzaibob on February 12, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Oh my, listening to Sarah talk about Trig, and her article in Newsweek…she’s so real, so normal, happy, and still plugs Lincoln’s Birthday in there. OMG, she is so honorable and precious. God Bless her!

Who is John Galt on February 12, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Hannon loved him some Obama between 2007-2009, just couldn’t get enough….numerous articles, interviews, tingles up his legs when Obama spoke…. Did his best to get Obama elected. Then he turned on Obama a few years ago when his chosen one didn’t turn out the way he expected.

Hannon is an opportunistic fraud that likes to stir sh*t up. Has most of you fooled.

nottakingsides on February 12, 2012 at 2:49 PM

The “American Culture” comprised of “Americans” is what made this country what it was. That is why Khruschev said way back when that “they”[Communism} would defeat us from within. That is why the leader of the Communist Party in the US said there was no longer a need for the Party since the Democrat Party was doing the job for them. The Founding Fathers knew and said that in order for the Republic to survive, it needed a moral and God fearing people. Hence, a need to break us down from within as Pope Paul called us a “culture of death” due to abortion,desires for euthanasia, etc. As Jugears continues to push his culture of death down our throats and channels Margaret Sangers eugenics theories,,we cannot dig out of this cultural cesspool until we as a people fight the rot that is killing us. Maybe this attack on the First Amendment is beginning of the fight, hopefully.

retiredeagle on February 12, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Yeah. Thanks for posting this, Ed.
I was going to look for this yesterday (I had no idea he was at CPAC until I read it in a comment) but I forgot.

This guy is really lonely over there in Europe. At least among the political class he is, well, his own “special 1%”.

Most of you will have seen his speeches at the EU before, but if you haven’t you should check them out. Great stuff.
Here’s his channel

RedCrow on February 12, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Great speech! I wish Ed would post Grover Norquist’s speech as well. It was fantastic, more political than philosophical, but just as inspiring.

rockmom on February 12, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Thanks, dukecitygirl and ShainS. He didn’t seem like a racist to me. (Gotta get my hearing checked!)

Meryl Yourish on February 12, 2012 at 3:19 PM

retiredeagle on February 12, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Absolutely! That was the only thing I disagreed with Hannan on. The culture made the structures. It is why Adams said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

Other than that, it was a fantastic speech. I particularly loved how he kept holding up that tiny little book that will fit in your back pocket, emphasizing that our entire government was established with so few words. In contrast, look at the damnable Obamacare bill. Any legislation that takes more than a page or two should be thrown out. Stop micromanaging us to death!!!!

Oh, and I loved the part about citizen reps over Czars, too.

The man is looking at us with hindsight from his own experience that we really need to utilize.

Thank you, Daniel Hannan.

nottakingsides on February 12, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Or maybe he was simply misled by the freakishly distorted propaganda in the European press and he has seen the error. Perhaps this is part of his penance for those errors, trying to turn us aside.

I don’t care why he’s doing it. It is a great service and I hope people don’t ignore him just because he was wrong before.

pannw on February 12, 2012 at 3:21 PM

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