Sheriff Paul Babeu: Fast and Furious scandal is far from over
posted at 5:15 pm on February 11, 2012 by Tina Korbe
No Fast and Furious fatigue for Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu, who has been on the front lines fighting to tell the truth about the Justice Department’s disastrous program from Day One. The longer the Justice Department stonewalls the congressional investigation into the gunrunning program, the more ardent becomes Babeu’s desire to hold the administration accountable.
“Many of us, including me, feel that whoever made these decisions should be held criminally accountable because people have been murdered,” Babeu told me today. “Our hero in the Border Patrol — Agent Brian Terry — was murdered in my state. Two of the guns that were used to kill him — on the scene — were from Fast and Furious. There’s no accountability; Eric Holder still hasn’t come clean to say who made these decisions and it’s been over a year.”
As tragic as Brian Terry’s death was, it is far from the only casualty associated with Fast and Furious: More than 200 people in Mexico have been killed by drug cartel members with Fast and Furious weapons — and the death count is likely to continue to rise, Babeu said.
“This is a larger scandal than anything like Watergate,” he explained. “Nobody died there. People lied and there was a cover-up. Here, there’s lies and cover-ups and we still don’t have the answers, but people have been killed. Fourteen hundred of these guns are still outstanding; other people will die from actions of Eric Holder and the Department of Justice.”
Those outstanding weapons are untraceable.
“There [are] no tracking devices,” he said. “wWe don’t know who has these weapons now. For years to come, this is going to trickle out; people are going to be killed, crimes are going to be committed. The only way we can confiscate these guns is we raid a drug house and, oh, there’s five guns here and, guess what, they’re connected to Fast and Furious.”
Babeu knows firsthand that Fast and Furious weapons are reappearing in the United States. Three months ago, his agency, along with 21 other law enforcement agencies, busted the Sinaloa drug cartel — the largest bust in Arizona history. In the midst of 76 arrests, the recovery of billions of dollars and the discovery of dozens of weapons, they found two Fast and Furious weapons.
Intentionally arming drug cartels — if that is, in fact, what the Justice Department was doing — does nothing to help U.S.-Mexico relations, Babeu warned.
“We have just armed paramilitary organizations — all these cartels — that are fighting that are at war with Mexico,” he said. “I’m a retired army officer and, in Mexico, for us to do that against a stated ally, that triggers in the Geneva Convention an act of war. This is outrageous. People need to be held accountable for this and we’re getting no answers.”
That the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms has no way to trace the weapons lends credence to the theory that the ATF intentionally funneled the firearms to drug cartels as a cover for calls for increased gun control.
“This was one time dismissed as crazy or some wild-eyed right-wing conspiracy that this could be the case,” Babeu said. “There’s no other justification. I’m in the business of clues and evidence; their only defense that they have given is they were tracking these guns and they were going after these big fish. Well, guess what? They weren’t tracking anything. Even in a minor investigation in law enforcement, we’re tracking drugs, we never let it out of our line of sight. We track with surveillance; we have people trail them; we have CIs, criminal informants, that give us information, then we effect an arrest. These are guns. How could anybody in their wildest imagination ever believe that this would end well? It hasn’t — and the end isn’t even here.”
The end might not be here — but the beginning of something else could be. Babeu has cast his lot in the congressional race to represent Arizona’s newly-created fourth district, and he’s presently out-fundraising his competitors and polling well. If he is elected to Congress, he said, Fast and Furious won’t be his only target.
“I will be a part of a chorus of conservatives but one of the strongest voices, not only on these issues, but as a free market guy,” he said. “We’re very rapidly evolving into one of these failed European states. I shall not allow that to be the future of America.”
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Arrest him?
Don L on February 28, 2013 at 12:55 PM
And why would it? Who is going to hold him to account for anything? He serves at the pleasure of Barack Obama, he does the will of Obama, he keeps Obama from being held accountable for anything he does.
Congress doesn’t have the will or testicular fortitude to pull Erick Holder and Barack Obama’s house of card down, Congress is full of cowards and traitors, and Erick Holder knows it.
SWalker on February 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM
Nothing bothers crooked thugs.
His boss is a Lilliputian in Chief.
Schadenfreude on February 28, 2013 at 12:59 PM
What difference, at this point, does it make?
rbj on February 28, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Y’all had enough yet? Or are we just gonna sit around and bellyache about it like usual?
beatcanvas on February 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM
What does it matter, at this point, anyway?
LetsBfrank on February 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM
bho has been helded in contempt by a judge for his actions on the oil/gas leases in the Gulf and zero has been done about that! NOTHING happens to these below crooked/lying snakes! NONE of them!
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letget on February 28, 2013 at 1:03 PM
Those aren’t just “people”. They represent the electorate. Read it again. Realize what he’s saying.
rogerb on February 28, 2013 at 1:08 PM
Just a coupla guys out for a walk.
JeremiahJohnson on February 28, 2013 at 1:08 PM
The Untouchables.
SGinNC on February 28, 2013 at 1:09 PM
The Holder “justice” department is not focused on the law but on the dictates and whims and obfuscations of a corrupt AG and his toadies. This in-your-face reply by Holder is as contemptuous as are his behaviors.
onlineanalyst on February 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM
That whole tough talk from Darryl Issa……what a hoot that was. Thanks for the laughs Congressman.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. You really had us for awhile thinking that the AG had done something.
Issa, you’re a credit to the Ruling Class, you are.
Gotta admire Holder for his chutzpah. He knows the gop is gutless and he just does what he wants. Wish the Conservatives have had just one of the testicles that the Dems/Progressives seem to have.
PappyD61 on February 28, 2013 at 1:12 PM
Wow, you utter fool – Nixon had to respect the people who downed him?
Hitler had to respect the Russians when they found him?
Holder is a not very smart thug.
Schadenfreude on February 28, 2013 at 1:14 PM
Guns don’t kill people!
red_herring on February 28, 2013 at 1:19 PM
Ya, know, that contempt vote is probably considered a badge of honor to Holder, something to be proud of and highlight in his resume. A small sacrifice, really small, in service to his boss.
hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 1:23 PM
…I broke the law…and the law WON!
KOOLAID2 on February 28, 2013 at 1:27 PM
As somebody entering the legal profession, I am increasingly dismayed by the utter contempt for the law and just basic decency that Holder has. The man is an utter disgrace to his profession, and a disgrace to humanity. I spit on him.
Othniel on February 28, 2013 at 1:28 PM
Everyone knows that the “SS” is above the law.
rplat on February 28, 2013 at 1:29 PM
What’s the current status of the court case on Holder/ Barak O’Nixon’s invocation of executive privilege to hide documents and communications from the American public in the fast and Furious investigation?
Cavalry on February 28, 2013 at 1:32 PM
Please start refering to him as his preferred title of Generalissimo Holder.
acyl72 on February 28, 2013 at 1:34 PM
Defund the racist jerk’s office. And no, I don’t mean Barack Obama – his office, unlike himself, is Constitutional. Dept of Just-Us, just like a hundred of other DC bureaucratic cesspools, is not.
Nah, won’t happen. Balls are a rarity these days.
Archivarix on February 28, 2013 at 1:41 PM
At this point, does anything the dems do really matter, all things considered?
The Repubs are just another arm of this many tentacled devilish octopus…
A few repubs come out every now and again say a few words and sound off, but in the end, what. Nothing fracking happens!
Time money and energy wasted…our time our energy and our money, wasted…
No more.
Until the repubs find the cahones to really do somthing, I will cease believing a damn thing they say.
All talk and no action, no REAL action to speak of.
Smoke and freaking Mirrors…
beatcanvas on February 28, 2013 at 1:02 PM
I have to agree with you…
Scrumpy on February 28, 2013 at 1:44 PM
This is done on purposeful spite. The media will never report this. If they did, they will say someone from W’s administration once flew on a jet and it also cost ga-zillions. Then proverbial Republicans hate black people for flying on jets, yada yada… Tweets abound & echo of Repub stupidity. It’s a game people. There is zero governance in Washington DC
drivingtheview on February 28, 2013 at 1:55 PM
A couple hundred Mexicans murdered, along with the murder of a couple of border control agents: no biggee.
What difference does it make?
ss396 on February 28, 2013 at 1:58 PM
Who cares? Okay, so Fast and Furious failed, Americans and Mexicans were murdered, and we didn’t get away with exploiting it to increase gun control.
Thankfully, some nut killed a bunch of kids, and now we’ve got an even more emotional situation to exploit to increase gun control. So it all worked out in the end.
The Rogue Tomato on February 28, 2013 at 2:03 PM
Heinrich Luitpold Himmler felt no different.
Schadenfreude on February 28, 2013 at 2:10 PM
Yes, this is where I say, “I told you so“…
SWalker on February 28, 2013 at 2:16 PM
Hey scumbag, 17 D’s supported contempt charges, as well..so sick and tired of MSM not coming back with the obvious gut punch that sits at their frontal lobe….
hillsoftx on February 28, 2013 at 2:21 PM
Why don’t we sequester cut this department? It’s a black hole anyway.
LetsBfrank on February 28, 2013 at 2:46 PM
Better question to ask Holder. WHY AREN’T YOU IN PRISON?
GarandFan on February 28, 2013 at 2:50 PM
He’s still in denial, thinking he’s above the law.
sadatoni on February 28, 2013 at 3:08 PM
There is NO answer for addressing ANY of the wrongdoing implemented by this adminstration which relys on the legal process that is the correct answer.
The correct model is The French Revolution.
williamg on February 28, 2013 at 3:16 PM
Until proven otherwise, he’s not just above the law….he IS the law.
I don’t see any real argument or substantive action from CONgress on the matter. A hollow and useless contempt charge aside.
hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 3:19 PM
Holder: “Because my boss won.”
hawkeye54 on February 28, 2013 at 3:20 PM
Here stands a man that really, truly, absolutely, for sure deserves to be posterized with a pencil thin mustache, bolo tie, diamond stud ear ring & behind bars.
RdLake on March 1, 2013 at 1:16 AM