Black female conservative congressional candidate Mia Love: Conventional wisdom says I don’t exist

posted at 2:30 pm on February 11, 2012 by Tina Korbe

U.S. congressional candidates aplenty populate the halls of the CPAC hotel — but Mia Love still stands out. Every bit as electric in person as she seems in her campaign videos, she has a contagious smile and an irresistible frankness.

She came to CPAC in part to present as a member of a panel that discussed what the conservative message offers minorities. As a black female conservative, she said she knows conventional wisdom suggests she shouldn’t exist. Listen to her speak for a second, though, and it’s hard to believe she won’t succeed at convincing a few liberals and independents to move in her direction. The life she describes as possible for anyone who is willing to take personal responsibility sounds like the life most people want — a full, happy, meaningful and satisfying one.

I caught up with her in a hall outside the bloggers’ lounge — and instantly felt more cheerful just for having talked to her.

“Here’s the problem,” she said. “Government is not going to save us from ourselves; at some point, we’re going to have to take responsibility for ourselves, make decisions for ourselves and either reap the benefits or suffer the consequences of our own decisions.”

Like Allen West, who passed us in the hall and greeted Love with a brisk “Mayor” and nod of the head, Love seems to be the embodiment of the motto, “Take away excuses and all that’s left are results.”

As a mayor, wife, mother, runner, she’s gotten those results. Under her mayoral administration, for example, Saratoga Springs, Utah, received the highest Standard & Poors municipal rating available to a city of its class, at a time when many cities were being downgraded. Now, she wants to deliver on a national level as a congresswoman for Utah.

“We’ve got to change the way we deliver the message,” she said to me. “We need to start getting to people and saying, ‘Listen, you’re not going to get out of this life you’re dissatisfied with through government dependency.’ The more money that we funnel in and take from someone else — eventually it’s going to run out. What then? So, what we’re going to do is we’re going to give you opportunity to create and produce for yourself.”

Because of the example of her parents, she knows it’s possible.

“I’m a product of parents who came with $10 in their pockets when they legally immigrated to the United States, became citizens, never took a handout and were able to put three kids through school,” she explains. “And you know what they were grateful for? They were grateful for opportunities. [My dad] was so happy to work and be able to keep a little of what he had.”

Two sentences from Love reveal a better understanding of what it will take to create jobs than any politician who promises to create jobs through government.

“When we allow the private sector to create jobs, then they get more money in their pockets, the products are cheaper — and there are more jobs that open up,” Love said. “The policies that have been led by the left have done nothing but hurt the poor.”

She knows it’s gonna take entitlement reform to ensure the longterm fiscal sustainability of our nation, too.

“We’re certainly not going to pull the rug out from the people who are there because frankly they don’t have the option of going back to work,” she said. “But I’d like to be able to see my children be able to put money into a retirement of their choosing. That’s what I’d like to see.”

She still faces a caucus and a primary before her message will go up a liberal opponent — but, as her name recognition increases, her support continues to grow. Her campaign staff told me they’re optimistic she could so sweep the caucus that the primary will become unnecessary.

“I need as much support as possible to make this work,” Love said. “If we’re going to change the way our country is run today, then we’ve all got to get involved.”

If CPAC has reinforced one thing for me, it’s this: The presidential election is important, but retaining the House and taking back the Senate is essential. Let’s keep the spotlight on conservative candidates across the country!


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She isn’t really black until Al Sharpton says she’s black.

Cicero43 on February 11, 2012 at 2:34 PM

The Real Mormon Conservative, Mitt and the mormon haters should take notice.

ConservativeLaw on February 11, 2012 at 2:35 PM

As a black female conservative, she said she knows conventional wisdom suggests she shouldn’t exist. Listen to her speak for a second, though, and it’s hard to believe she won’t succeed at convincing a few liberals and independents to move in her direction.

Which is why the Left will try to destroy her.

itsnotaboutme on February 11, 2012 at 2:36 PM

I am impressed, there are few unapologetic black conservatives out there, and we all know why.

TheLastBrainLeft on February 11, 2012 at 2:36 PM

When liberals attack her, return their attack with everything you have.

Roy Rogers on February 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Nice interview Tina.

When will the white male Democrats denounce her skin color?
That’s always my favorite.

Odie1941 on February 11, 2012 at 2:37 PM

“When we allow the private sector to create jobs, then they get more money in their pockets, the products are cheaper — and there are more jobs that open up”

Funny how record-setting corporate cash assets aren’t actually resulting in job growth… and there’s no reason for that to change when labor costs are far lower in China and technology allows companies to fully automate millions of jobs that a couple decades ago required a corporate staff to produce.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/30/us-investing-kingcash-idUSTRE80T07420120130

bayam on February 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM

I can’t wait to hear what lies the Left spits at her to destroy her. You know it’s coming.

Decoski on February 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Conventional wisdom says I don’t exist

This always baffles me too. I spent my career developing commercial real-estate. I’ve worked with scores of successful, conservative, black female capitalists (Developers, General Contractors, Subcontractors, Designers, Leasing Professionals, etc., etc.).

What person (who’s actually held a job) beleives this urban legend?

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 2:39 PM

She isn’t really black until Al Sharpton says she’s black.

Cicero43 on February 11, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Oh oh! He can’t call her “Auntie Tom”?

KOOLAID2 on February 11, 2012 at 2:39 PM

God speed, Mia Love…

d1carter on February 11, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Good for you Mia! I wish you success on your election, we need lots more conservative ‘GALS’ in dc! I really love Star Parker also and was so sorry she didn’t get elected.

We have got to keep the house and get the senate, the wh would be the cherry on top of the banana split!
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letget on February 11, 2012 at 2:42 PM

but, as her name recognition increases, her support continues to grow

Um, yeah. My first impression is that she’s gonna be a STAR.

Beautiful, intelligent, clear, and she gets it.

Also, she’ll have the backing of groups like the NAACP and NOW–a big plus.

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 2:43 PM

ME Love Mia Love! What will the left call her an ‘Auntie Tom’???
This lady really rocks & she’ll be getting a penny or two from this conservative!!!

huskerdiva on February 11, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Cracker-racist Jim Moran does not approve of Mia Love.

Then again, does anyone approve of Jim Moran?

Aizen on February 11, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Funny how record-setting corporate cash assets aren’t actually resulting in job growth… and there’s no reason for that to change when labor costs are far lower in China and technology allows companies to fully automate millions of jobs that a couple decades ago required a corporate staff to produce.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/30/us-investing-kingcash-idUSTRE80T07420120130

bayam on February 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM

LOL. Yeah, what we need are more unions to suck off the bottom line. That’ll bring those jobs back.

a capella on February 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Wouldn’t it be gr8 if enuf black conservatives get elected to congress that they eventually take over the CBC?!

huskerdiva on February 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM

VP?
Why not?

KOOLAID2 on February 11, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Funny how record-setting corporate cash assets aren’t actually resulting in job growth… and there’s no reason for that to change when labor costs are far lower in China and technology allows companies to fully automate millions of jobs that a couple decades ago required a corporate staff to produce.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/30/us-investing-kingcash-idUSTRE80T07420120130

bayam on February 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Dear radical leftist, you cannot spin very well. The USA with its rogue statist, progressive, leftist, nigh-communist government has become absolutely toxic to investment. The crony in chief changes the rules daily and demands protection money.

Thank you for participating, albeit insincerely and anemically.

tom daschle concerned on February 11, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Wouldn’t it be gr8 if enuf black conservatives get elected to congress that they eventually take over the CBC?!

huskerdiva on February 11, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Good Lord…..a lucid, conservative, CBC?

The mind boggles.

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Also, she’ll have the backing of groups like the NAACP and NOW–a big plus.

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 2:43 PM

No, she won’t.
Her ideology is diametrically opposed to what they sell.

a capella on February 11, 2012 at 2:48 PM

If you like Mia Love you should check out Charlotte Bergmann in Memphis, TN.

devan95 on February 11, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Also, she’ll have the backing of groups like the NAACP and NOW–a big plus.

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Whoa….let’s not get carried away. The NAACP is heavily invested in perpetuating the myth.

Ms. Love would be the enemy.

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 2:51 PM

a capella on February 11, 2012 at 2:48 PM
Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Sorry for not putting in a sarc tag, guys.
I guess I thought the sarcasm was too obvious.

And, Tim, I was gonna add CBC to the list but didn’t want to type it out and thought people would think I was talking about Canadian television if I abbreviated it.

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Also, she’ll have the backing of groups like the NAACP and NOW–a big plus.

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Whoa….let’s not get carried away. The NAACP is heavily invested in perpetuating the myth.

Ms. Love would be the enemy.

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 2:51 PM

That had to be sarcasm from Red.

slickwillie2001 on February 11, 2012 at 2:57 PM

I was gonna add CBC to the list but didn’t want to type it out and thought people would think I was talking about Canadian television if I abbreviated it.

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 2:54 PM

lol.

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Good Lord…..a lucid, conservative, CBC?

The mind boggles.

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 2:48 PM

I’d sooner see the CBC dissolved. Race based legislative coalitions have no legitimate place in this Country.

Imagine the shrieks of terror and rage echoing through the halls of congress upon the formation of the CWC. If one melanin content level can’t play the game, why can another?

PXCharon on February 11, 2012 at 2:58 PM

She knows it’s gonna take entitlement reform to ensure the longterm fiscal sustainability of our nation, too.

Gonna.

LOL

ButterflyDragon on February 11, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Is she special because she is black? This racialist crap has to end.

borntoraisehogs on February 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

She isn’t really black until Al Sharpton says she’s black.

Cicero43 on February 11, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Oh oh! He can’t call her “Auntie Tom”?

KOOLAID2 on February 11, 2012 at 2:39 PM

If he does, then it is a badge of honor.
The leftists hate Harriet Beecher Stowe’s book because she depicted African-Americans, slave and free, as principled individuals, taking responsibility for their own actions regardless of their circumstances.
And Uncle Tom himself, above all else, was a committed Christian.

Which may be the main reason they use his name as a term of derision.

AesopFan on February 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM

I’d sooner see the CBC dissolved. Race based legislative coalitions have no legitimate place in this Country.

PXCharon on February 11, 2012 at 2:58 PM

This.

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 3:01 PM

The Republican party has done a horrible job at selling its rich history of its support for equality and support for life. The first blacks in congress were Republican. It’s amazing to me, not that the Democrat party has wanted to rewrite history, but that the Republican party has allowed it. To the point that Obama has even co-opted President Lincoln.

I think there are some Republicans who would be embarrassed to stand up today and say they are the party of Lincoln.. like, nobody would believe them or something.

JellyToast on February 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

slickwillie2001 on February 11, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Heh. Yeah, I’m not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I know the NAACP and NOW are extreme left groups who care not a whit about conservative blacks and conservative women.

Lol. Liberals are for diversity–as long as you think exactly like they do.

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

borntoraisehogs on February 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

NO, she is ‘special’ because she is conservative! The shade of her skin has zero to do with Mia!
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letget on February 11, 2012 at 3:04 PM

The life she describes as possible for anyone who is willing to take personal responsibility sounds like the life most people want — a full, happy, meaningful and satisfying one.

There it is….those two words, half of the tenets that I scream about all the time.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. It provides and supports the entire notion of individual freedom.

Liberals, that is real progressive socialist liberals, really hate this idea and are just dying to extend it’s antithesis for four more years. People like Mia will stop it and reverse it. We need more Mias aboard and being loud, then we can get our country back and banish this socialist crap to the dust bin where it belongs.

Wolfmoon on February 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

The Republican party has done a horrible job at selling its rich history of its support for equality and support for life. The first blacks in congress were Republican. It’s amazing to me, not that the Democrat party has wanted to rewrite history, but that the Republican party has allowed it.

JellyToast on February 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

This is a great point.
I would add that decades of liberal media control and liberal education might have helped a bit, too.

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 3:06 PM

We need a better picture of her, the one on the front page looks faded or something.

FloatingRock on February 11, 2012 at 3:10 PM

I think there are some Republicans who would be embarrassed to stand up today and say they are the party of Lincoln.. like, nobody would believe them or something.

JellyToast on February 11, 2012 at 3:03 PM

This is because republicans aren’t exempt from being progressives either. We’ve seen far too much of it, but every time the people start talking about dumping these RINO progressive traitors to conservatism, shouts of “PURISTS!, RIGHT WINGER FASCISTS, ONE PERCENTERS!!!11″ drown out people’s willingness to carry on the fight for what’s right. People need to stop being afraid of these progressive pigs and start shunning them like plague carriers.

Wolfmoon on February 11, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Her facebook page for all you racist wingnuts who alternately vote and don’t vote for black candidates because you simultaneously refuse to have black people rule over you while wanting black people in power to hide your racism… or something.

https://www.facebook.com/miablove

mankai on February 11, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Conventional wisdom is a misnomer

ted c on February 11, 2012 at 3:12 PM

This is a great point.
I would add that decades of liberal media control and liberal education might have helped a bit, too.

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 3:06 PM

It’s aggravating as hell……and probably has more to do with the rise of “alternative media” than we give it credit for.

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Wolfmoon on February 11, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Yeah. It’s funny: If you ever go to Europe and hear someone called a liberal don’t think of our “liberals”. I guess it still has something to do with the belief in personal liberty over there.

Our “liberals” have SO mucked-up the meaning of the word, and so many in fly-over country know what they stand for, that the idiots don’t really want to be called liberals, anymore!

They prefer “progressives” now. (Another word that will shortly have nothing to do with its literal definition.)

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Is she special because she is black? This racialist crap has to end.

borntoraisehogs on February 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Pretty much. This is nothing but identity politics, republican brand. If she was white, would Tina write this post?

There are two conservative candidates who have a real conservative record of accomplishments running in the same primary. There may be reasons to settle for Mia Love. Her gender and her race aren’t goods ones though.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM

bayam on February 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Why do you suppose companies automate? Could it be that a multi-million dollar investment in technology is still cheaper over the life of the machinery than the equivalent amount of labor over that same time period?

And why is the labor more expensive than multi-million dollar machinery?

I work in logistics for a large retailer and we automate whenever possible due to lar costs but nt nearly as much as do our UK operations where labor costs, direct and indirect, are higher. Most of our automation equipment is made in northern Europe. Know why? Labor costs there are among the highest in the world so to remain competitive norther European companies were forced to automate to survive.

All corporate decisions are tied back to money, of course, and the largest single operating expense is labor. If the suppliers of labor price themselves out of the market they only have themselves to blame.

Charlemagne on February 11, 2012 at 3:17 PM

She is an impressive lady, and makes me proud to be black. I have always argued that the biggest problem in the black community is that 70% of kids are born out of wedlock. That makes it impossible for the single moms to be there for kids while they are growing up, because they have to work 2 or 3 jobs, just to make ends meet.

The kids end up taking care of themselves, and hanging in the street, and basically mixing with the wrong crowd. This is the bad cycle that is the bane of the black family. I am always happy when we have a black women who can carry this message, because the frauds like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have destroyed the black community.

Chudi on February 11, 2012 at 3:18 PM

I like her. They can try to destroy her. It won’t work. But if that’s your deal go for it. She is solid in her views. The destroyers ultimately aren’t. At your own peril, it will backfire, you are losing.

Bmore on February 11, 2012 at 3:19 PM

“When we allow the private sector to create jobs, then they get more money in their pockets, the products are cheaper — and there are more jobs that open up”
Funny how record-setting corporate cash assets aren’t actually resulting in job growth… and there’s no reason for that to change when labor costs are far lower in China and technology allows companies to fully automate millions of jobs that a couple decades ago required a corporate staff to produce.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/30/us-investing-kingcash-idUSTRE80T07420120130

bayam on February 11, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Yes – because “technology” is purely the gift from the Government and not free enterprise private markets.

I just socured my house and checked my flat screen, desktop, laptop, Xbox, tablet… yet didn’t see the Gov stamp on it.

Where are these semi-conductor manufacturing facilities located in D.C.? I can’t seem to find them.

Odie1941 on February 11, 2012 at 3:19 PM

The Real Mormon Conservative, Mitt and the mormon haters should take notice.

ConservativeLaw on February 11, 2012 at 2:35 PM

And she’s from Utah..We are watching her grow.

rich801 on February 11, 2012 at 3:19 PM

joana on February 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Cetaris parabus, vote for Mia. It shouldn’t be difficult to figure out why it would be a good idea.

Charlemagne on February 11, 2012 at 3:21 PM

“When we allow the private sector to create jobs, then they get more money in their pockets, the products are cheaper — and there are more jobs that open up,” Love said. “The policies that have been led by the left have done nothing but hurt the poor.”

Wow, she is rare; a Republican who is willing to expose the damaging effects of leftist policies on the poor.

mankai on February 11, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Charlemagne on February 11, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Ceteris paribus

iPads don’t know Latin.

Charlemagne on February 11, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Pretty much. This is nothing but identity politics, republican brand. If she was white, would Tina write this post?

There are two conservative candidates who have a real conservative record of accomplishments running in the same primary. There may be reasons to settle for Mia Love. Her gender and her race aren’t goods ones though.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM

You really are thick.

If she were “white”, what would the story be?

This story is about racial sterotyping – one of the myths perpetuated by the racialist-dem party is that “black, conservative females” don’t exist…and if they do….well then there just not “black”.

This racialist myth….and you….are both pathetic.

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 3:13 PM

You might be right. But the old media (CBS, NBC, ABC, NYT, etc.) has been uber-liberal for decades–I mean…a lonnng friggin’ time.

And schools? Lefty teachers might conveniently leave out the insignificant fact that Lincoln was a republican. Or that the democrats started the KKK. Or that the democrats were against civil rights legislation. Etc… (Kind of arbitrary examples, but there are lots more. Lots of examples for the benefits of free-market capitalism, too, that kids probably don’t hear about.)

I think that in the new media it is easier to filter out the kooks. If I don’t navigate to HuffPo, I never have to pay any attention to it. And HuffPo can’t easily bombard the oblivious with their message, like TV can.

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 3:24 PM

She is an impressive lady, and makes me proud to be black.

Chudi on February 11, 2012 at 3:18 PM

You’re not pink?

DarkCurrent on February 11, 2012 at 3:24 PM

joana on February 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Cetaris parabus, vote for Mia. It shouldn’t be difficult to figure out why it would be a good idea.

Charlemagne on February 11, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Why is that? Because she’s woman and black?

There’s no ceteris paribus anyway. She’s facing the most conservative state legislator in Utah who’s endorsed by Senator Mike Lee. But I’d still like to see your answer to the question above.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 3:27 PM

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 3:24 PM

I hear exactly what you’re saying.

I beleive, however that the internet (combined with the rise of conservative radio) has broken the MSM news-monopoly. Combine that with the rise of FOX news (which crushes them all) and Google putting the facts at your fingertips…..and trouble’s a-brewin’ for our lamestream friends.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed.

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 3:23 PM

This.

Lol. I read joana’s post, and was about to respond. But, I think you probably said it better than I coulda.

This story is about racial sterotyping – one of the myths perpetuated by the racialist-dem party is that “black, conservative females” don’t exist…and if they do….well then there just not “black”.

I would only add that democrats have to hang on desperately to blacks and latinos. If they lose them, then their whole party is super-rich whites, community organizers, and union members. (They’d lose around 80% of their party.) And so, it’s important to make sure that blacks and latinos know that they’re not really black, that they’re not really latino unless they keep voting democrat.

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 3:32 PM

joana on February 11, 2012 at 3:27 PM

joana
You took a similar tack in a previous Mia post. I’m just curious. Is it because she is black? Is it because she is a black Conservative? Is it because she is a Conservative? Is it because you are in the tank of an opponent? Please clarify.

Bmore on February 11, 2012 at 3:37 PM

joana on February 11, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Left one off, Is it because she is a she?

Bmore on February 11, 2012 at 3:39 PM

I think maybe my math was off.

If they lose them, then their whole party is super-rich whites, community organizers, and union members

I forgot to include ALL of the people who blindly do what the aforementioned people tell them to do, and vote thusly.

So, they’d only lose about 50%.

RedCrow on February 11, 2012 at 3:40 PM

joana
You took a similar tack in a previous Mia post. I’m just curious. Is it because she is black? Is it because she is a black Conservative? Is it because she is a Conservative? Is it because you are in the tank of an opponent? Please clarify.

Bmore on February 11, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Nah, it’s simply because I don’t care about her race or gender – which obviously isn’t the case for many people here.

Identity politics, nothing else.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Good Lord…..a lucid, conservative, CBC?

The mind boggles. – Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 2:48 PM

There would be an f’ing meltdown in the CBC.

SC.Charlie on February 11, 2012 at 4:01 PM

She still faces a caucus and a primary before her message will go up a liberal opponent — but, as her name recognition increases, her support continues to grow. Her campaign staff told me they’re optimistic she could so sweep the caucus that the primary will become unnecessary.

It should be “…before her message will go up against a liberal opponent…”. You simply missed a word. The image in your sentence is hilarious, though. :) :) :)

Theophile on February 11, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Nah, it’s simply because I don’t care about her race or gender – which obviously isn’t the case for many people here.

Identity politics, nothing else.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 3:46 PM

When the left stop using it, we can stop needing examples to disprove it. It’s very clear that the conservative message is still being amended by the Marxists. We speak: “Personal responsibility, liberty, equal protection under the law.” and the Dems still whisper from the shadows “unless you’re black” and it still sticks.

PXCharon on February 11, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Is she special because she is black? This racialist crap has to end.

borntoraisehogs on February 11, 2012 at 3:00 PM

She’s not special because she is black. She is special because the leftists have drawn a circle around her and targeted her for destruction. So she is only special in the same way that Sarah Palin is special. If and when the leftists do the same thing to you and your family, you’ll feel special too.

A little over a year ago, one of the liberal loons that I am forced to work with approached me while I was eating breakfast at a hotel (we were TDY for the company I work for) and accosted me. He “demanded” (his words) an explanation from me, (me being one of those detestable “Tea Partiers”), as to what exactly is so special about Sarah Palin. I told him it was a secret, but the real reason we like Sarah Palin is that she is perfectly “ordinary”. And, in fact, beyond that fact that she is well preserved for her age, there is actually nothing whatsoever special about her.

After he stuttered with a perplexed look on his face for a minute or two, (my response clearly took him by surprise), he launched himself into a tirade about how stupid Sarah Palin is (the guy is SO predictable). After he ran out of nasty things to say about her, he threw down the gauntlet (or so he thought) with “How could you Tea Partiers possibly think that Sarah Palin is capable of running the country?”

I told him, “Okay, let’s suppose, hypothetically speaking, that you are correct, and that Sarah Palin is stupid. Do you mind answering a few questions for me?” I had him hooked at that point, and he agreed to listen. I said, “Who was Bush 41?” He looked at me blankly. I answered for him, “Yale graduate…CIA director…smart, right?” Before, he could say anything, I said “Who was Bill Clinton?” Again, he looked at me, still not knowing where I was going. I said, “Oxford guy…Rhodes scholar, smart, right?” Again, before he could say anything, I said “Who was Bush 43?…Another Yale graduate. Who is Barack Obama? A Harvard graduate.” There was a pause. I said, “Can’t you see?…It’s the smart people that got us where we are at. Maybe it’s time to let the stupid people run things for a change. How much worse could they do?” The entire room spontaneously broke out in laughter.

The guy doesn’t try to argue with me in public anymore. That was about the third time that I humiliated him in front of the other people that we both work with.

CyberCipher on February 11, 2012 at 4:06 PM

She will always be successful if she never utters the words, “My people”. Good luck, you’re winner.

mixplix on February 11, 2012 at 4:08 PM

i don’t exist either!! let’s not exist together!!!!! =D

watch as the msm tries their best to ignore her, until she gains too much popularity for them to ignore her and then their only talk about her is that she was secretly paid by white people as a shield they can hide behind from the left’s charge of racism.

what really angers me about the left’s coverage of any minority conservative is that they literally act like every conservative with the exception of 3 or 4 people is white. so those 3 or 4 people are treated as the only minority conservatives who exist: i remember one lefty headline that said herman cain was “the GOP’s new black friend.” as if, if it weren’t for herman cain there would not be any non-white republicans.

another opinion piece said minorities are “solidly in the democratic camp.” i commented on it saying that that’s not true! the msm ignores minorities who aren’t liberal, to give the perception to the public that all conservatives are white. but when a minority conservative rises in popularity so that they can’t ignore, the next strategy is “uncle tom.” sad!!

Sachiko on February 11, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Wow. She is so fine. Plus she’s good looking.

platypus on February 11, 2012 at 4:21 PM

She is so fine. Plus she’s good looking.
platypus on February 11, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Aren’t they the same thing? ;-)

Let’s Move!

Mr_Magoo on February 11, 2012 at 4:25 PM

I have never seen a black unicorn, they are quite pretty…

right2bright on February 11, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Plus she’s good looking.

platypus on February 11, 2012 at 4:21 PM

not hard on the eyes at all…uh….I mean SEXIST!!!!!!

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 4:25 PM

She will always be successful if she never utters the words, “My people”. Good luck, you’re winner.

mixplix on February 11, 2012 at 4:08 PM

when she is potus, referring to the 100%, americans, us. all of us. is impeachment the next step?

t8stlikchkn on February 11, 2012 at 4:26 PM

CyberCipher on February 11, 2012 at 4:06 PM

I did SOOOOOO enjoy that story. I’ll be ready to use it the next time I hear how stupid… well you know.

Mr_Magoo on February 11, 2012 at 4:26 PM

because the frauds like Sharpton and Jesse Jackson have destroyed the black community.

Chudi on February 11, 2012 at 3:18 PM

A community, that not too long ago, had a lower crime rate, lower divorce rate, and higher employment than the “whites”, along with a low school drop out rate…
They did more than destroy, they decimated a great culture, music, art, literature, the black community was just reaching their stride after years of suppression…one of the truly despicable acts foisted on a group of people, all to garner a few votes…

right2bright on February 11, 2012 at 4:32 PM

Nah, it’s simply because I don’t care about her race or gender – which obviously isn’t the case for many people here.

Identity politics, nothing else.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 3:46 PM

When the left stop using it, we can stop needing examples to disprove it. It’s very clear that the conservative message is still being amended by the Marxists. We speak: “Personal responsibility, liberty, equal protection under the law.” and the Dems still whisper from the shadows “unless you’re black” and it still sticks.

PXCharon on February 11, 2012 at 4:05 PM

I have no idea what’s so hard to understand about this, but using identity politics only legitimates the left’s usage of it.

That’s why I personally refuse to engage in them.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 4:33 PM

So I spent this morning encouraging my new friends on a weight loss site called MyFitnessPal dot com. Lots of people working hard at not being fat and diabetic. And not just the same olf fat people who try and fail. People of all types have joined for all sorts of reasons.

And I got to thinking, the free enterprise system is using technology to help people eat healthier and exercise WITHOUT the help of the government. It is a humbling thing to see people helping themselves and not sitting around waiting for the government or Michelle Obama to inspire them by dancing on a talk show. The “stupid people” are taking matters into their own hands, using the free market and these sites are doing a good thing AND making money. And others are benefitting through offering calorie trackers, recipe sites, etc. Just think of the jobs created or saved! Can you imagine how long it would take the government to put an industry like this together, how many billions would be wasted, and how much corruption would be involved?

And interestingly, the majority of my new friends are from Canada, UK, Scotland, etc. And I’m thinking what do they have in common? Nationalized health care. Could be a coincidence but it could also be the realization by the folks – mostly younger – who realize the government is NOT going to help them when they “grow old.”

Tina, You might think about this and perhaps write about it. It spoke volumes to me.

Mr_Magoo on February 11, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Oops, not sure if Scotland has nationalized health care or not.

Mr_Magoo on February 11, 2012 at 4:40 PM

I have no idea what’s so hard to understand about this, but using identity politics only legitimates the left’s usage of it.

That’s why I personally refuse to engage in them.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 4:33 PM

You’ve no reason to talk down to me like “I just don’t get it.”
Standing above the fray has not worked. We can talk all we want, refute every charge of racism and sexism with cold logic, and as I said before the Dems just whisper from the shadows. We’re not exclusive, you and I know this, but the people who think we do clearly need to be shown with more than just words and numbers, or we’d have won them over already. I hate it, but it’s the truth. For as long as it’s the truth, we’re fools to ignore it.

PXCharon on February 11, 2012 at 4:42 PM

If she was white, would Tina write this post?
joana on February 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM

If Barack Obama wasn’t half black with dark skin, do you think he would be President today?

Did you question everyone who wrote about Obama when he started becoming known? Would they even have bothered?

I just don’t see your point.

Mr_Magoo on February 11, 2012 at 4:49 PM

I have no idea what’s so hard to understand about this, but using identity politics only legitimates the left’s usage of it.

That’s why I personally refuse to engage in them.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 4:33 PM

But you’re perfectly comfortable engaging Tina and anyone who questions you. So why are you even contributing to this thread?

Mr_Magoo on February 11, 2012 at 4:51 PM

If she was white, would Tina write this post?
joana on February 11, 2012 at 3:15 PM

I would have interviewed her too. As I did, perhaps Tina saw her mentioned somewhere, checked her out and became interested in what she had to say.

That’s what I did. I watched a couple of her videos, Liked her on FB so I could follow her progress and read her viewpoints, and here I am.

She inspired me, gave me “hope” and made me more “cheerful” just listening to her.

Is that really so bad?

Mr_Magoo on February 11, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Dear radical leftist, you cannot spin very well. The USA with its rogue statist, progressive, leftist, nigh-communist government has become absolutely toxic to investment. The crony in chief changes the rules daily and demands protection money.

Thank you for participating, albeit insincerely and anemically.

tom daschle concerned on February 11, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Please explain to us why Germany and other countries that are far more socialist in northern Europe have stronger economies and lower unemployment? In reality you have no understanding why the US economy is growing at a slow rate or how to improve the economy. But keep the Glen Beck talking points coming, it’s amusing.

bayam on February 11, 2012 at 5:20 PM

You’ve no reason to talk down to me like “I just don’t get it.”
Standing above the fray has not worked.
PXCharon on February 11, 2012 at 4:42 PM

I stand above the fray for deep moral reasons. Not because it works or not.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 5:24 PM

But you’re perfectly comfortable engaging Tina and anyone who questions you. So why are you even contributing to this thread?

Mr_Magoo on February 11, 2012 at 4:51 PM

I’m criticizing Tina for engaging in identity politics, just like I criticize the democrats who routinely engage in them.

Seems quite simple to understand to me.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 5:26 PM

This thing is really startng to snowball. Its patriotic, energetic Americans like Mia that just scare the crap out of the liberal, left-democrats. Go Girl! Hoo Rah! DD

Darvin Dowdy on February 11, 2012 at 5:27 PM

I stand above the fray for deep moral reasons. Not because it works or not.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 5:24 PM

There’s no moral superiority in having an example to counter the lies the Dems use to label and ensnare minorities, and refusing to employ it.

Dying nobly on your feet, with your last breath protesting the horrible violence done to you, still makes you dead. I may die beside you, but I damn well will be reaching for a fresh magazine when it happens.

PXCharon on February 11, 2012 at 5:39 PM

The photoshop candidate!

-Kos

BobMbx on February 11, 2012 at 5:50 PM

I stand above the fray for deep moral reasons. Not because it works or not.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 5:24 PM

lol….standing in a puddle of your incessant rhetorical vomit doesn’t exactly put you “above the fray” my incredibly arrogant, yet astoundingly ignorant little friend.

But whatever blows your hair back!

lol.

Tim_CA on February 11, 2012 at 5:58 PM

I’m criticizing Tina for engaging in identity politics, just like I criticize the democrats who routinely engage in them.
Seems quite simple to understand to me.
joana on February 11, 2012 at 5:26 PM

She also interviewed Paul Babeau, rising star in Ariona. She must have interviewed him just because he is a tall, bald white guy.

I stand above the fray for deep moral reasons. Not because it works or not.
joana on February 11, 2012 at 5:24 PM

If you are posting your opinions on this thread, you are not standing above the fray. Don’t you get that?

Mr_Magoo on February 11, 2012 at 6:09 PM

I have to wonder after reading this. I am sure she’s charming, but….

FOWG1 on February 11, 2012 at 6:15 PM

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/53442370-90/budget-building-council-love.html.csp

I can’t work the link thingy.

Cut and paste, I guess.

FOWG1 on February 11, 2012 at 6:16 PM

The life she describes as possible for anyone who is willing to take personal responsibility sounds like the life most people want — a full, happy, meaningful and satisfying one.

While Mia Love is probably great, this is nonsensical drivel.

Random on February 11, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Tina describes Anthony Robbins or some other flim-flam huckster. That is not possible for everyone. Tina lives in fantasy land. A lot of what she imagines she has accomplished is circumstance, but mostly favorable genetics.

Yes, there will be stochastic exceptions to this, but the rarity of them establishes the point.

Random on February 11, 2012 at 6:48 PM

I have to wonder after reading this. I am sure she’s charming, but….
FOWG1 on February 11, 2012 at 6:15 PM

http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/53442370-90/budget-building-council-love.html.csp

The article seems pretty in depth. I wonder who “suggested it” though.

Maybe you’ve never lived in this type ofcommunity before. I have a couple of times. Property taxes always lag behind construction and new homeowners get a huge break (which they never remember) because the taxes don’t catch up for 1 – 2 years, just like Mia says. In the beginning, the local govt relies on new permits to bridge the gap.

So when it all goes south as it did for all of us, the shortfall is more obvious. So they made their choices. Everybody shared in the pain. Homeowners are upset because they always think they are paying too much. They never consider all the infrastructure that is commited up front and required to grow a community.

So are you really wondering or are you just astroturfing?

Mr_Magoo on February 11, 2012 at 6:53 PM

That is not possible for everyone. Tina lives in fantasy land.
Random on February 11, 2012 at 6:48 PM

Didn’t Will Smith make a movie about this? Yea, he’s probably delusional too.

Mr_Magoo on February 11, 2012 at 6:55 PM

She’s obviously a very intelligent, articulate lady. She reminds me of Michelle Obama in a way, and that’s only in their intelligence and speaking styles — clearly their philosophies are polar opposites.

But not everyone has near her talents, physically or mentally: that doesn’t just mean intelligence, which is important, but emotional stability, and on and on — which are predominantly genetically-determined traits to do with the interactions between the Limbic and R.A.S. systems, and how the latter suppresses the former … as well as hormonal differences, and on and on.

Sure, what people believe matters too, so as we change memes, we can change outcomes.

But in no way, shape, or for is the grandiose, but oh so culturally popular, rubbish statement that Tina made plausible in the real world.

It’s offensive, actually, to those who just don’t have the ability. Here I agree with leftists and think we should have more genuine compassion and humility.

Random on February 11, 2012 at 6:56 PM

She also interviewed Paul Babeau, rising star in Ariona. She must have interviewed him just because he is a tall, bald white guy.

Nope. Rather because of his criticism of Fast&Furious that turned him into a legitimate subject of national interest.

What makes Mia Love a figure of national interest? Her
sex and race. Nothing else.

If you are posting your opinions on this thread, you are not standing above the fray. Don’t you get that?

Mr_Magoo on February 11, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Nope. I’m writing in this thread to disagree with the identity politics that people like you promote. I choose do not engage in identity politics and I pity the morally flawed people who do.

I’m sorry if you can’t deal with disagreement better than this.

joana on February 11, 2012 at 6:56 PM

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