Unions demand budget-veto pledge for Dems seeking recall against Walker in WI

posted at 9:15 am on February 9, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Unions and Democrats — but I repeat myself — insist that they need to recall Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker because of his arrogance and unreasonable approach to governing in shoving public-employee union reforms through the legislature after, er, campaigning in part on the issue.  How reasonable are unions and Democrats prepared to be if they do manage to replace Walker?  Unions have demanded a litmus test of prospective challengers that would require them to throw Wisconsin into a budget and constitutional crisis upon taking office (via Lakeshore Laments):

Union leaders are asking Democratic candidates for governor to veto the next state budget if it doesn’t restore collective bargaining for public workers and one leading candidate – Kathleen Falk – has agreed, participants in the private meetings say.

The plan, which could lead to shortages or even layoffs in government if it doesn’t succeed, is a key strategy that union leaders are considering for undoing Gov. Scott Walker’s repeal last year of most collective bargaining for public employees. Falk, the former Dane County executive, has committed to restoring collective bargaining in the next state budget and vetoing the budget if those provisions come out, while at least three other candidates including Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett said they wouldn’t commit to any one strategy to accomplish that.

“The governor’s job is to veto budget items that don’t reflect citizens’ values. That’s why a million people signed recall petitions – because Scott Walker’s budgets didn’t reflect citizens’ values,” Falk spokesman Scot Ross said. “All the support she’ll receive is because she the best candidate to take on Gov. Walker’s divisive, extreme, national tea party agenda and bring Wisconsin back together.”

Yeah, because nothing says moderation than vetoing an entire budget if it doesn’t include a provision that allows the PEUs to force Wisconsin citizens to overpay for union-owned health insurance.  At least one Democrat has refused, and blasted the union for an essentially unserious demand:

Sen. Tim Cullen (D-Janesville), who briefly considered running against Walker in a recall election, said that he was asked by leaders of public employee unions if he would veto any state budget that didn’t restore collective bargaining.

“I said I could not make that promise and I did not think any serious candidate for governor could or should make that commitment,” Cullen said of a veto of the state budget. “It’s a $60 billion document.”

Cullen noted that the state budget also deals with other key priorities for voters such as health care, education and taxes. Cullen said Republicans would be unlikely to agree to restoring collective bargaining in the budget, setting up a potential stalemate that could drag on for months like the state budget standoff in 2007.

The GOP would retain control of at least one chamber of the legislature no matter what happens in the recall election, so a PEU-reform repeal would be extremely unlikely.  The same reality has also crossed Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, who lost to Walker in 2010 and is considered the best hope for Democrats in the recall, also publicly rejected making such a commitment, although Barrett said that he wouldn’t rule anything out or in.  That leaves Falk as the union-backed candidate, and their platform as something akin to “We’ll throw lots of government workers into the unemployment line if you don’t restore WEAC bargaining,” or something.  That’s a winning message against a governor who has balanced the state budget without raising taxes and who has a 51% approval rating.

Republicans have to be delighted to have been handed this line of attack:

The union request and Falk’s commitment brought withering criticism from Republicans, who said the move would be bad for the state and wouldn’t succeed with the GOP-controlled Legislature.

“This backroom deal reeks of pay-to-play,” state Republican Party spokesman Ben Sparks said.

There’s certainly nothing like advertising that you’re a wholly-owned subsidiary of the unions to frame a political campaign these days, is there?  It’s a measure of the desperation Big Labor and Democrats — there I go being redundant again! — are feeling as states struggle to reform budgets and get control of their public-sector costs and private-sector economic stagnation.  In my column for The Fiscal Times today, I look at the arguments being made against Indiana’s new right-to-work laws and show what’s really at work is panic over losing a big revenue stream that keeps Democrats in power and the status quo in place:

Working from data provided by the federal Bureau of Economic Statistics, the NILRR looked at the ten years ending in 2010 to see whether right-to-work or “forced-unionism” states performed better economically.  Not only did RTW states show more job growth (RTW: 0.3 percent; forced unionism states:  -5.5 percent; national average: 3.3 percent), real compensation grew by 11.3 percent.  In states with closed shops, real compensation only grew 0.7 percent over those ten years while real compensation grew nationally at a 4.3 percent pace.

How did that impact the economic structure of these states?  Manufacturing grew in forced-unionism states by 8.3 percent during that decade – but it grew by 18.6 percent in right-to-work states.  As far as standards of living, the data disputes Dayton and other opponents of right-to-work laws.  By 2010, income adjusted for the cost of living by the BEA was slightly higher in right-to-work states, as was cost-of-living adjusted real disposable income.

Nor was the NIRLL the only one to check those figures.  Dr. Mark Perry, professor of economics and finance at the University of Michigan, checked the BEA’s figures and reported his findings on his personal blog, Carpe Diem. Perry confirmed the NIRLL’s findings on private-sector compensation growth, and found a few more nuggets as well.  Private sector employment grew by 10 percent in the same decade in RTW states, while the rate in forced-unionism states was only 1.9 percent.

Perry also specifically looked at the 2000-7 period for employment and found this stunning result: “In the period between 2000 and 2007 — before the recession started — almost 8 million jobs were created in right-to-work states compared to fewer than 6 million new jobs in forced union states, even though forced union states outnumber right-to-work states 28 to 22 and have populations and labor forces that are 65 percent greater than right-to-work states.”

Clearly, right-to-work states outperformed their counterparts across a wide range of economic measures.  Why, then, are Democrats like Governor Dayton so opposed to right-to-work laws?  Survival.  Democrats rely heavily on union support, both in organization and fundraising.  Both depend on the collection of dues from millions of members locked in closed shops, who have their paychecks picked by their employers no matter what they think of their union.  Since Democrats in Indiana get a third of their donations from these forced contributions to unions, the rights of workers and the economic vitality of their states take a back seat to keeping their own coffers filled.

We’re seeing a Rust Belt revolution, and it’s breaking out in places like Arizona as well.  The days of wine and roses funded by taxpayers and employees in closed shops are coming to an end, and the beneficiaries of that pocket-picking are trying desperately to keep those mechanisms in place.


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This children is why they are called “thugs”.

nobar on February 9, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Not only did RTW states show more job growth (RTW: 0.3 percent; forced unionism states: -5.5 percent; national average: 3.3 percent), real compensation grew by 11.3 percent. In states with closed shops, real compensation only grew 0.7 percent over those ten years while real compensation grew nationally at a 4.3 percent pace.

but did they kids get education and contraception and a mommy-boob exam every whenever-she-want it…and ..and..was there a doctor there with a prescription pad giving me a note to gets me off work when I wanna wear a red shirt and protest that evil Satanic Scott Walker?????
/dem/union arguments.

ted c on February 9, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Can we continue with firings until union workers stop protesting? Add a gleeful cackle here.

Archivarix on February 9, 2012 at 9:23 AM

Unions have always used fear and need to organize. They tell the workers how exploited they are, how it will get worse, and how the unions are the only ones who can save them.

Some WI local teachers unions have already decertified because they realized they could negotiate in good faith with the school board. the fear is gone, and so is the need.

IIRC, one provision of the WI law is that public sector unions run for re-certification every two years. Usually it is difficult to decertify a union (giving how much a fight the international will put in), but an automatic re-certification election every two years requires the unions to answer: “What am I getting for my dues?”

“We’re buying politicians with it” is no longer a satisfactory answer.

Wethal on February 9, 2012 at 9:25 AM

ROFL

“And we want new shoes! Yeah! And…and…a car for every union member! Yeah! And a tv, that’s right a tv! A big one!”

Bishop on February 9, 2012 at 9:25 AM

Nice column Ed, lets hope that voters realize what the unions really care about.

Mord on February 9, 2012 at 9:28 AM

The GOP would retain control of at least one chamber of the legislature no matter what happens in the recall election, so a PEU-reform repeal would be extremely unlikely.

Wow, you still trust Republican politicians to take a meaningful stand and stick to their principles?

Brave man.

mankai on February 9, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Wethal on February 9, 2012 at 9:25 AM

Isn’t one of the biggest reforms that the unions hate an end to automatic dues collection by the state? Unions have to bill their own members now to collect dues. They have seen huge reductions in cash since the law took effect I read.

Mord on February 9, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Workers of the world, unite! You have nothing to lose but your union-mandated chains!

Scriptor on February 9, 2012 at 9:31 AM

you know who is in real, yes real, need of organizing? Those Libyan militias—I hear there’s about 250 of them, all disorganized and such, probably some major medical needs. You know, maybe some of these disgruntled (and unsuccessful) union organizing thugs could go to Tripoli, get together a new Brotherhood of Northern African Militias and lobby the UN for better militia pay, access to oil revenues, SAM training, 4wks paid vacation on the Med, and some new golf courses or something…..

ideas.

ted c on February 9, 2012 at 9:31 AM

All the wacko liberals always rail against the eeeevil corporations while forgetting the unions. Corporations earn money by selling products. Unions earn money by stealing it from workers paychecks while contributing nothing to the economy. Hmmmmm which one is evil again?

search4truth on February 9, 2012 at 9:32 AM

My first job out of high school was a union shop.When I became eligible to join the union steward took me around the plant pointing out things the union had done for the workers and stopped at a vending machine and pointed to a can of bean & weenies saying the union got these for you.Before I joined I was saved by the draft.

docflash on February 9, 2012 at 9:33 AM

Arrogance? These arrogant Union azzwipes, have Biden’s brain!

KOOLAID2 on February 9, 2012 at 9:33 AM

You know, I’m a small business owner, and I have to work like crazy to bring in clients and keep them happy. I can’t imagine telling people to pay me money – just because!

How do people who run unions look at themselves in the mirror and not laugh themselves to scorn? Do any of them BELIEVE their garbage?

JoseQuinones on February 9, 2012 at 9:33 AM

I grew up in an Indiana town chock full of UAW workers. I experienced first hand the contempt and disgust UAW workers held for the companies that paid them so well. Certainly not every worker acted this way, but the truth is that the thugs exist in great numbers up and down the membership roster.

Without the forced collection of dues, these organizations will change for the better. Or die.

MikeinPRCA on February 9, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Falk her and her union hacks.

I stand with Gov. Walker!

ColorMeOld on February 9, 2012 at 9:36 AM

Isn’t one of the biggest reforms that the unions hate an end to automatic dues collection by the state? Unions have to bill their own members now to collect dues. They have seen huge reductions in cash since the law took effect I read.

Mord on February 9, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Most certainly.

Even getting the members to sign automatic monthly direct deposit isn’t going to be good enough. The account holders can stop the automatic transfers whenever they want.

Wethal on February 9, 2012 at 9:36 AM

I watched the hearing yesterday by the House Oversight Committee that touched on some of this.

Obviously the bought and paid for dems would do nothing but support the union position to keep their cash cow working for them.

Add to this the over the top support of unions by the NLRB and other parts of the administration and you can see the pattern.

CommentGuy on February 9, 2012 at 9:36 AM

RTW: 0.3 percent; forced unionism states: -5.5 percent; national average: 3.3 percent

Am I missing something here? The average is better than either of two halves? Maybe the national average was supposed to be negative 3.3?

jwolf on February 9, 2012 at 9:37 AM

Why, then, are Democrats like Governor Dayton so opposed to right-to-work laws? Survival.

Yep. The only thing that is unique about this story is the fact that the thugocracy is so blatant about their pay-to-play requirements.

Happy Nomad on February 9, 2012 at 9:40 AM

This union reminds me of a spoiled brat child attempting to hold his or her breath till they get what they want.

Beastdogs on February 9, 2012 at 9:41 AM

I spent several years in a union when I worked for UPS during college. I was treated, and compensated well, by the company. My 2 supervisors, the center supervisor, and other senior management that would visit seemed to be genuine, hard working, talented and motivated people. Moreover, they were always honest with me. The union rep, however, a jackhole who I worked right next to every day, spun such a tale of woe and displeasure with this same group of men–a tale of distrust, malevolence, exploitation yada yada—a tale that simply did not match what I was seeing with my own two eyes. What I saw with my own eyes was a company trying to provide a service to people who wanted to pay for it.

truth.

ted c on February 9, 2012 at 9:42 AM

- CAW (Canadian Auto Workers) do not conceded to demands at Catepollar plant in Ontario.
- Catepillar says OK, we will shut the plant and move it. Maybe to Indiana.

Right to work works.

WashJeff on February 9, 2012 at 9:43 AM

In a way, I’m glad this is all happening before the election. I know the unions and Democrats will put on quite a show for the rest of the country, which should re-enforce why they voted in Republicans last election. Secondly, it will show the country how much the Democrats are willing to lie and distort to get their way.

bflat879 on February 9, 2012 at 9:44 AM

Gosh dangit…It’s For The Children!!!!!
Don’t you know that!!!!?????

Electrongod on February 9, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Seems to me governments should be shut down frequently.

Unions have demanded a litmus test of prospective challengers that would require them to throw Wisconsin into a budget and constitutional crisis upon taking office.

Ed, I hardly think not approving a budget comes within the normal meaning of having a “budget crisis”. If the government were to shutdown they’d certainly having a spending problem, as in not being able to spend the money coming in, but they’d actually be piling up a budget surplus.

Dusty on February 9, 2012 at 9:49 AM

It’s funny to me that with all of this personalized focus on active recalls to remove a specific Governor from the office to which he was elected, Republican candidates are being called out by the Democrats because they want to “beat Obama” (i.e. win the election they’re running in).

So, wanting to win in a standard race is incivil, but going to great lengths to focibly remove a particular victor from office is perfectly reasonable. Am I catching on?

BlueCollarAstronaut on February 9, 2012 at 9:50 AM

So IF Falk wins, and doesn’t manage to get CU back, will they recall her?

I don’t think there will be a recall – look at the True the Vote site – the fail rate on the Senate recalls is between 16% and 38%. The worst is Fitzgerald:

16,742 needed for recall
20,600 “gathered” for recall
14,061 actually turned in (according to TTV)
12,833 presumed valid.

There’s a fun site, not official, called “WiRecallFail.com” which shows the petitions and what’s wrong with them. My favorite ones haven’t shown up yet –
151844& 151845, exact copies;
Lena Taylor’s petetions which she circulated in Milwaukee while officially in DC at work;
and the two I saw at a GOP office – same signatures, but with different headers – one for Walker, one for Kleefisch.

The local news is now downplaying the Tea Party supporter who found his signature four times on a Wanggaard petition – allegedly signed by his brother. Oops.

Daisy_WI on February 9, 2012 at 9:51 AM

We’re seeing a Rust Belt revolution, and it’s breaking out in places like Arizona as well.

Ed,

I think you should point out that while AZ is moving ahead with state reforms of laws regarding unions, it is already a RTW state. and has been since adoption of the section of the state’s constitution:

“Ariz. Const. art. XXV. Title 23. Labor Chapter 8. Labor Relations Article 1. Right to Work ARTICLE 1.”

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on February 9, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Wow, you still trust Republican politicians to take a meaningful stand and stick to their principles?

Brave man.

mankai on February 9, 2012 at 9:29 AM

While I am ultra-cynical about the Republican party these days, some of the state level parties are (thankfully) still different animals than the national level party these days.

Doomberg on February 9, 2012 at 9:56 AM

It’s easy for union “workers” to take this on, as they spend little if any time actually working.

And then we wonder why their schools are terrible and why when you pay for union “labor”, you pay twice the price for half of the work.

Politics are more important.

NoDonkey on February 9, 2012 at 9:58 AM

We’re seeing a Rust Belt revolution, and it’s breaking out in places like Arizona as well. The days of wine and roses funded by taxpayers and employees in closed shops are coming to an end, and the beneficiaries of that pocket-picking are trying desperately to keep those mechanisms in place.

How does Ed get away with that “R” word!!!?? And why stop at Arizona when the largest union infection mechanism is in California.

Rovin on February 9, 2012 at 10:07 AM

“Unions and Democrats — but I repeat myself…”

Classic

rogaineguy on February 9, 2012 at 10:07 AM

“Unions and Democrats — but I repeat myself…”

And for the first time in decades the unions won’t be the only dominating voice in the rooms of liberal blue states thanks to the SuperPacs. Add the Tea Party influence to this election cycle, and the playing field just got a whole lot brighter for 2010 shellacking to continue.

Rovin on February 9, 2012 at 10:21 AM

“The governor’s job is to veto budget items that don’t reflect citizens’ values. That’s why a million people signed recall petitions – because Scott Walker’s budgets didn’t reflect citizens’ values,”

The governor’s job is to do what he said he would do when he campaigned for the job…which he did, and which the people of Wisconsin voted him into office to do.

Oh, and they followed up by electing the pro-Walker judge to the Supreme Court over the progressive f**kwit who looked like a human-vulture hybrid.

MadisonConservative on February 9, 2012 at 10:23 AM

My favorite ones haven’t shown up yet –
151844& 151845, exact copies;

Daisy_WI on February 9, 2012 at 9:51 AM

I think I flagged your favorites during my review at a GOP office.

the whole process lends itself to fraud (virtually impossible to verify the signatures in the time allowed) but let’s leave it alone…if walker is recalled, then we’ll need this leaky bucket for the next recall in a year or so.

p.s. we should correct people when they say walker is “divisive”. obviously he is the result, not the cause. further to that, to say his moves were “extreme” would be correct but only in reaction to what he witnessed when the GOP was the minority; funny in that only when the GOP got both houses and the gov chair did the unions start talking about “compromise”

teejk on February 9, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Oh, one more thing we want the candidate to pinky promise; allow our kids to begin working after 3rd grade so they can enjoy a future filled with lollipops.

sdbatboy on February 9, 2012 at 10:34 AM

Can we just skip ahead to where unions demand joining one at birth?

roy_batty on February 9, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Dang right:

While I am ultra-cynical about the Republican party these days, some of the state level parties are (thankfully) still different animals than the national level party these days.

CA has well over 3.

sdbatboy on February 9, 2012 at 10:38 AM

It has become public employee unions and democrats (BIRM) against the taxpayers and every other citizen.

Please donate to Governor Walker’s campaign. This is a key battle of 2012.

jukin3 on February 9, 2012 at 10:39 AM

The irony is that Obama, in shoving unions down our throats may have done more to HASTEN their inevitable end than he did to help them.

Unions are obsolete. If your job is such that you can’t negotiate for yourself and need a union robots or Chi-Coms are going to be replacing you soon.

wildcat72 on February 9, 2012 at 10:44 AM

It is the unions vs the rest of America, who pay taxes that is. And Barack Hussein OBama has gone with the unions. If Walker loses this fight, the rest of us lose as well.

democratsarefools on February 9, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Please donate to Governor Walker’s campaign.

This is the key battle of 2012.

jukin3 on February 9, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Damn straight, Walker 2016!

roy_batty on February 9, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Yeah, because nothing says moderation than vetoing an entire budget if it doesn’t include a provision that allows the PEUs to force Wisconsin citizens to overpay for union-owned health insurance.

It’s not about the health insurance, it’s about funding the PACs through forced union dues.

As for the timing of the next budget, that won’t be until 2013, after the Unioncrats hope their leveraging of recall will give them total control once again. BTW, the last time they had total control, the state ended the biannual budget with a $3+ billion structural deficit, one that Scott Walker and the Republicans pretty much successfully dealt with by cutting off the unions.

Steve Eggleston on February 9, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Nice column Ed, lets hope that voters realize what the unions really care about.

Mord on February 9, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Let’s also hope that unions realize what the voters really care about.

Steve Z on February 9, 2012 at 10:58 AM

IIRC, one provision of the WI law is that public sector unions run for re-certification every two years. Usually it is difficult to decertify a union (giving how much a fight the international will put in), but an automatic re-certification election every two years requires the unions to answer: “What am I getting for my dues?”

Wethal on February 9, 2012 at 9:25 AM

It’s actually every year. Most of the teachers’ unions have recertified, while many of the municipal unions decertified.

Steve Eggleston on February 9, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Hey Dems, how do ya like being run by the mafia?

Speakup on February 9, 2012 at 10:59 AM

Hey Dems, how do ya like being run by the mafia?

Speakup on February 9, 2012 at 10:59 AM

They ARE the Mafia.

Steve Eggleston on February 9, 2012 at 11:00 AM

So the campaign reduces to “Restore Union Control–Vote Falk.” That pretty much capture it?

Barnestormer on February 9, 2012 at 11:07 AM

So the campaign reduces to “Restore Union Control–Vote Falk.” That pretty much capture it?

Barnestormer on February 9, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Pretty much. There’s also the “Avenge 2006″ angle, as Falk was the only Democrat in the entire country to lose a statewide/Congressional office held by Democrats going into the cycle (attorney general – after she ousted incumbent Peg “The Keg” Lautenschlager in the primary, she lost to J.B. “See No Evil” Van Hollen in the general).

Steve Eggleston on February 9, 2012 at 11:11 AM

As for the potential crisis, if there is no biannual budget by the end of FY2013 (June 30, 2013), spending and taxation continues at the prior budget’s rates.

Steve Eggleston on February 9, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Unions demand budget-veto pledge for from Dems seeking recall against Walker in WI

fify

db on February 9, 2012 at 11:34 AM

“That’s why a million people signed recall petitions – because Scott Walker’s budgets didn’t reflect citizens’ values…”

Bzzzt. Wrong on two counts, Mr. Ross.

First- given that the name “Mickey Mouse” is on one of those petitions, I highly doubt there are a million “people” that signed them.

Second- Walker was elected in part based on his promises to reform psychotically out of control deficits and PEU excesses. Ergo, his actions DO in fact reflect citizens’ values- just not yours, such as they are.

double fail.

GrassMudHorsey on February 9, 2012 at 11:41 AM

As for the potential crisis, if there is no biannual budget by the end of FY2013 (June 30, 2013), spending and taxation continues at the prior budget’s rates.

Steve Eggleston on February 9, 2012 at 11:24 AM

So, amending: “Encourage the Illusion of Restored Union Control while Actually Insuring the Status Quo–Vote Falk.”
(This WI-style triangulation sure is tricky).

Barnestormer on February 9, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Wow, you still trust Republican politicians to take a meaningful stand and stick to their principles?

Brave man.

mankai on February 9, 2012 at 9:29 AM

The national GOP is run by a bunch of turds. But the WI GOP is great. Walker has the party tuned up like a machine. They get done what needs to be done and they don’t waste time on silly sideissues.

Walker 2012 (I could care less about the Presidential race, THIS is the real race this year).

And after he wins, and then wins re-election in 2014, I’d love to see him in the White House.

letoile du nord on February 9, 2012 at 11:49 AM

What a choice for the union goonmember. Recall Walker and possibly lose my job and pay higher taxes or keep Walker and keep my job and taxes low.

What will they do?

banzaibob on February 9, 2012 at 11:58 AM

What a choice for the union goonmember. Recall Walker and possibly lose my job and pay higher taxes or keep Walker and keep my job and taxes low.

What will they do?

banzaibob on February 9, 2012 at 11:58 AM

keep your taxes low??? I think you meant “lower”. Wisconsin hasn’t been known for low taxes in decades (in fact the last I checked, we ranked #4 in the nation on per capita taxation, in a state ranking middle of the pack on per capita income).

that’s the price for being the birthplace of the “progressive” (a kinder term for socialism) movement. and that’s what this fight is all about.

November 2010 was when the people said “enough already”…employers were leaving, taxes were continuing to increase and the state was facing a $3bil deficit (all the budget tricks having been played only meant one thing…even higher taxes coming).

good luck Ms. Falk…I await your speech explaining why undoing the walker moves will be good for the state. it should rank right up there with Animal House and Blazing Saddles.

teejk on February 9, 2012 at 12:56 PM

jwolf on February 9, 2012 at 9:37 AM

Yes, you are missing something.

Many states are neither RTW or forced union.
And BTW, they must be doing fairly well.

VelvetElvis on February 9, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Wow, you still trust Republican politicians to take a meaningful stand and stick to their principles?

Brave man.

mankai on February 9, 2012 at 9:29 AM

I take your point, but in this instance they have to. If by some miracle the recall was successful and the Republicans capitulated, it wouldn’t help any of them get reelected. This fight is existential for the Democrats and the unions, which is why they’ve fought like hell. If they turn the tables, the Republicans will be in an equally existential fight. And trust me, the Republicans in Wisconsin understand that.

Mr. D on February 9, 2012 at 1:51 PM

I have said it many times before, in fact, I have said this for the past 30 years – UNIONS HURT THE ECONOMY. Unions have no useful purpose in today’s business environment. They should be banned. Union workers by and large are not intelligent enough to know this so they continue to fund the leadership’s lavish styles. Wake up dummies.

rjulio on February 9, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Wow, so the Unions in WI are out in the open now, making it blatantly evident that they control the Dimbeciles–whoa, what a revelation! Looking forward to a clear and unmistakable take-down by the Right. Bye, bye, unions, wasn’t nice knowin’ ya’.

stukinIL4now on February 9, 2012 at 2:37 PM

So I reviewed the 2010 Gubernatorial Election results between Barrett and Walker :

Walker , Scott GOP 1,128,159 52%
Barrett , Tom Dem 1,005,008 47%

The Dems got a million signatures of which probably 75 % are legitimate.
The re~call election of walker is a non-story. With a 51 % approval rating for Walker now, it’s doubtful the unions can energize enough for a big turnout on what is essentially a non-issue for the citizens of Wisconsin.

He’ll win again.

F&%#@ the unions. Let ‘em burn.

DevilsPrinciple on February 9, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Wow. The unions have decided to make no pretense that EVERYONE should be putting them first in the list of priorites.

Bitter Clinger on February 9, 2012 at 2:46 PM

“iPad’s FOR EVERYONE!!!!1111!!!!”
~Democrat Union Puppet Governor

Strike Hornet on February 9, 2012 at 2:49 PM

‘UNIONS demand…’?! $CREW THEM! Union Leaders, like Hoffa Jr, want to preserve an insane mandate that says anyone who wants a job in this country MUST be a member of a Union, that this worker then MUST pay dues to crokks and thugs like Hoffa, who steal much of this money and use the rest to grease the palms of corrupt politicians like Obama who will do whatever is in the best interest of the Unions. Politicians would be MUCH less interested in helping Unions if the Unions’ ‘money pot’ – the dues workers are FORCED to pay – dries up. It amazes me that politicians and Unions believe out of all the freedoms we have the right to get a job without being forced to be a member of a Union is not one of them. Currently that is not possible unless a state legislature passes a bill that states its citizens have a ‘right to work’ without being enslaved by Union membership/dues. Walker was the ‘Moses’ of the American worker, removing the shackles of people who want jobs without mandatory Union membership, and has walked them out of their ‘slavery’. Walker, and what he has started, is also a threat to the massive Labor Unions…who still make up only a MINORITY of Americans! So, of course they want Walker and his Union-busting movement stopped! Keep on fighting the good fight, Walker! HUAH!

easyt65 on February 9, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Here in Wisconsin – you don’t have to declare your party affilitation in the primary.

Kathleen Falk is a HORRIBLE candidate.

1.) She’s from Madison – the rural areas won’t trust her.
2.) As Dane County exectuive she let the Bond rating slip from AAA to AA
3.) She resigned as county executive in 2010 — “A quitter!!”
4.) She heavily backed commuter rail
5.) She’s got poor name recognition
6.) She’s run twice unsuccessfully for higher office.

I’m considering going to vote in the Democratic primary for her as I think she can win that primary but not the general.

Green_Bay_Packers on February 9, 2012 at 6:03 PM

In any particular union the number of members who are active is about 3 or 4 percent (I’m not counting the bowling league) Most of the PEU members I know never have any official contact with their local officers.

Of course in Wisconsin a few percent of the membership makes quite a crowd on the capital lawn, but many of the protesters were from other states and private sector unions. Most members aren’t thugs but the few who are get around.

The truth is that in a any large organization there are legitimate reasons for union representation; paradoxically the direct deduction of union dues is against the workers interest. In the early days a union steward had to make the rounds collecting monthly dues; if he wasn’t doing his job you would tell him you forgot your wallet that day, FDR brought in direct deposit to give union leaders guaranteed income without having to provide that pesky representation.

For years I’ve been advocating for elimination of payroll deduction of income taxes, now it occurs to me that we should require all members of congress go door to door and collect the money in person.

halfbaked on February 9, 2012 at 9:49 PM