Quotes of the day

posted at 10:53 pm on February 9, 2012 by Allahpundit

“Mitt Romney met quietly with a small group of conservative leaders in Washington on Thursday in an effort to reassure Republicans who remain skeptical about his candidacy, CNN has learned…

“‘He knows exactly how people are reacting and feeling right now,’ the participant said of the Romney meeting. ‘He is going to have to give a big speech tomorrow and I think he just wanted to make some people feel comfortable. It’s just an opportunity to talk to some friends.’”

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“‘There is not exactly Romney-mania right now,’ Senate GOP Whip Jon Kyl told POLITICO, adding that the former Massachusetts governor “absolutely” must shore up the weaknesses with the GOP base that were on such vivid display Tuesday…

“‘People instinctively can sense how fervently you believe in things by the way you talk about them, by what you choose to talk about,’ Kyl said. ‘And I think to some extent, Mitt can do a little better job to responding to that political fact. Second, he has stepped on his message so many times.’

“Kyl added: “Every time he defends his health care action in Massachusetts and every time he says something like [indexing minimum wage], conservatives wonder whether he has the instincts to usually take the conservative position on issues. You don’t just want a transactional president, you want one with a very fixed view of what’s right or wrong, what the good solutions to problems are — and while you always have to end up making accommodations to get things done in politics, you at least instinctively know what direction you ought to be headed in. I think conservatives need to be persuaded that Mitt has a pretty firm fix on where the conservative lodestar is.’”

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“The Romney campaign is better at dismantling than mantling. They’re better at taking opponents apart than building a compelling candidate of their own. They do not seem capable of deepening his meaning, making his stands and statements more textured and interesting. He comes across like a businessman who studied the data and came up with the formula that will make the deal.

“A particular problem is that he betrays little indignation at any of our problems and their causes. He’s always sunny, pleasant, untouched by anger. This leaves people thinking, ‘Excuse me, but we are in crisis. Financially and culturally we fear our country is going down the drain. This guy doesn’t seem to be feeling it. So why’s he running? Maybe he thinks it’s his personal destiny to be president. But if the animating passion of his candidacy is about him, not us, who needs him?’

“Mitt Romney’s aides are making the classic mistake of thinking the voters want maturity, serenity and a jolly spirit. What they want is a man who knows what time it is, who has a passion to reform our country, and who yet holds these qualities within a temperament that is mature, serene and jolly.”

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“Republicans are especially suspicious of the other-directed type. They feel as if they are battling against the headwinds of a hostile elite culture. They want their candidate to have built his temple upon a rock, to possess an unshakeable set of convictions, to be impervious to the opposition of Washington’s entrenched interests. They also believe that the next president is going to have to make some brutally difficult decisions in order to reduce the debt. This is not a task for someone who is perpetually adjusting to market signals.

“If Romney is to thrive, he really needs to go on an integrity tour. He needs to show how his outer pronouncements flow directly from his inner core. He needs to trust that voters will take him as he really is. He needs to tell his own complicated individual story and stop reducing himself to the outsider/businessman advertising cliché. He needs to tell us what about his character is more fundamental than his national park patriotism and his skill at corporate restructuring.”

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“Those who have worked with Romney cite his flexibility as a virtue. ‘He’s spent his entire life in a world that’s constantly changing, where he has had to modify his thinking in order to address problems,’ says Scott Meadow, his friend and former business partner. ‘I think it demonstrates something that I’ve always seen: an ability to adapt and change, and a willingness to accept that his thinking evolves. And not being afraid to change his mind and go in a different direction because that seems like the appropriate thing to do.’ Meadow says Romney is ‘loyal to success,’ whatever form it takes. ‘He’s flexible because he’s had to be,’ Meadow says.

“Which is why Romney’s book, his speeches, his debate performances, and his interviews are not necessarily indicators of who Romney is and what he believes. Aside from being rhetorically pro-business, Romney appears to have no consistent ideological outlook. The best way to understand his campaign is as a top-of-the-line consultant’s report on the contemporary GOP…

“In this, his second primary campaign, the problem that consultant Romney has chosen to solve is not the Medicare crisis, the federal debt burden, or sluggish economic growth. Instead, it is how to appeal to a Republican Party torn between Tea Party activists and Beltway moderates. Romney’s insistence on having it both ways at every opportunity reveals not just his own incoherence but a party with irreconcilable goals: a leaner federal government that cuts no major programs, a balanced budget with a beefed-up defense budget, entitlements that are reformed and reduced but never cut or changed. What does Mitt Romney believe? Like the PDF says, he believes in America—and anything America wants him to believe.”

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“[A] bold reform agenda is our moral obligation. We have an obligation to provide the American people with a clear path that gets our country back on track.

“If we make the case effectively and win this November, then we will have the moral authority to enact the kind of fundamental reforms America has not seen since Ronald Reagan’s first year.

“That’s the moral case for going bold. But there is also a strong political case for going bold.

“The times call for leaders who understand the depth of the problems we face, and who offer far‐reaching reforms equal to the challenges. In 1980, Ronald Reagan offered supply‐side economics at home and a rollback of Soviet Communism abroad.

“The challenges this time? They’re different. But the moment calls for the same kind of boldness.

“Everybody knows this is politically risky territory. Republicans have their battle scars on entitlement reform. That’s why some argue that we should downplay bold agendas and simply wage a campaign focused solely on the President and his party.

“I firmly disagree. Boldness and clarity offer the greatest opportunity to create a winning coalition. We will not only win the next election – we have a unique opportunity to sweep and remake the political landscape.”

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“In yet another sign of the distrust Mitt Romney faces from Republican voters, he found himself promising Fox News’ Sean Hannity he will prove his ideological purity in a speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference he is set to deliver on Friday.

“‘I have a record of being a strong conservative on the issues that matter, and I’ll point that out to my friends at CPAC,’ Romney said Thursday night on Fox News, pointing to his efforts to fight Massachusetts mandates that forced some religious employers to provide access to contraception in their health care plans as well as attempts to stop the legalization of gay marriage in the state.”



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Don’t feed the snapping turtle. Let it tell us who it fears.

Good Morning!

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 7:51 AM

Good morning to you. How’s the weather in your part of the sunshine state? 45 degrees here.

Flora Duh on February 10, 2012 at 7:59 AM

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 7:53 AM

Geez…how does Watergate engender such disgust while F&F garners nary a mention? If I wasn’t aware Nixon was a republican, that might be a serious question.

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 7:59 AM

bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 7:56 AM

Little guppies in the WH working overtime. Is that the best you can do?

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 7:59 AM

Jazz Shaw has an excellent article up at Pajamas Media which puts Rick Santorum into focus. His logic is unassailable.

Why Ed Morrissey should have talked to Jazz Shaw before he endorsed Rick Santorum.

Basilsbest on February 10, 2012 at 8:01 AM

“Compelling State Interest”?

So, the Mayans were justified in their human sacrifice, Brutus? Were the horrible, inhumane actions of Hitler and Mussolini justified, then?

The standards your espousing are known as relative ethics and morality.

kingsjester on February 10, 2012 at 8:01 AM

Flora Duh on February 10, 2012 at 7:59 AM

48 degrees in Texas! stop being so cold florida

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:02 AM

No wonder Rick Santorum lost his last election by over 20 points!

Well, maybe it was almost 20 points, but that’s bad enough.

By the way, if I saw a HotAir commenter post the following comments, I would think they were a total nutjob. Comments like these would seem out-of-touch and extreme on most conservative blogs. In a general election campaign they would be like poison.

“If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does.”
-Rick Santorum, supporting a ban on private, consensual sex.

“One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country. It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be. [Sex] is supposed to be within marriage. It’s supposed to be for purposes that are yes, conjugal…but also procreative. That’s the perfect way that a sexual union should happen…This is special and it needs to be seen as special.”
-Rick Santorum

“The state has a right to do that, I have never questioned that the state has a right to do that. It is not a constitutional right, the state has the right to pass whatever statutes they have.”
-Rick Santorum, happily asserting that states can ban birth control

“The idea is that the state doesn’t have rights to limit individuals’ wants and passions. I disagree with that. I think we absolutely have rights because there are consequences to letting people live out whatever wants or passions they desire.”

-Rick Santorum

bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 8:02 AM

Why Ed Morrissey should have talked to Jazz Shaw before he endorsed Rick Santorum.

Basilsbest on February 10, 2012 at 8:01 AM

Jazz Shaw is a Moderate, who also writes for “The Moderate Voice”.

kingsjester on February 10, 2012 at 8:03 AM

Jazz Shaw is the worst writer on this site

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:03 AM

Geez…how does Watergate engender such disgust while F&F garners nary a mention? If I wasn’t aware Nixon was a republican, that might be a serious question.

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 7:59 AM

Because you’re comparing the 60′s-70′s to now. That was a generation ago. The only reason F&F isn’t drawing more attention is because the media is supporting the statist agenda and for the most part is corrupt. Remember, Obama is flawless.

When the fallout from the Nixon admin came about, we had the riots (think…. occupy), and Americans were tired of the status quo. Enter Jimmah Cawhtah, peanut farmer from Georgia. He was going to change the world, make us a bettah nation. We wanted an ‘outsider’, a kind and decent man to lead us to utopia.

Compare and contrast. Well, just compare… Nixon brought us Carter (we recovered), Bush brought us Obama (recovery uncertain).

Best to you in your studies, grasshoppah.

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Jazz Shaw is the worst writer on this site

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:03 AM

Rude.

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:06 AM

Compare and contrast. Well, just compare… Nixon brought us Carter (we recovered), Bush brought us Obama (recovery uncertain).

Best to you in your studies, grasshoppah.

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:05 AM

recovery uncertain! Cant you see the unemployment rate dropping like a rock? It’s just halftime in America Key West :) We gotta give it another four years.

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:08 AM

I actually used to kind of like Rick Santorum.
No joke. I liked Romney best, then Santorum (!)… but now that I learn more about Santorum,
bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 7:25 AM

That’s ok- “it’s a process.” And besides, most of the MittHate crowd in here have waffled from Cain or perry to Newt now to Santorum , soon to brokered – who’s next ? ……… So you are way more confident then those that keep switching candidates with whichever the direction the wind is blowing. Those that cannot make up their minds usually need someone else to do that for them. They are ….. Flipping and flopping all the way to Tampa.

FlaMurph on February 10, 2012 at 8:08 AM

Rude.

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:06 AM

tee hee :) I’m often rude but always honest

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:09 AM

***

It is also a fact that Rick Santorum has a history of trashtalking the Tea Party and small government conservatives. (exhibit A: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLQnoVpkyqc )

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bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 7:05 AM

I forgot that I saw clips of that last night. I didn’t know that, and I think that’s a big problem for him in the primary.

Keep ranting about creationsim–I spent my first nine years of school attending a very good Lutheran day school. I have far less of a problem with teaching intelligent design than many of Romney’s problems.

Romney embodies the most significant and detrimental stereotypes of the GOP. Romney is a very unlikeable man; he will get buried in November–even as I’m pulling the lever for him–because swing voters will hate his guts by Election Day.

BuckeyeSam on February 10, 2012 at 8:09 AM

recovery uncertain! Cant you see the unemployment rate dropping like a rock? It’s just halftime in America Key West :) We gotta give it another four years.

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:08 AM

Tell me again why Obama wants another 4 years. Has he said what his agenda is? Other than, “I’m not done yet”, what is his vision for the next 4 years?

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:10 AM

If the CPAC crowd is as tough on Romney as the HA crowd, he’s got a long way to go convincing conservatives to support him. The only saving grace he’s got is the ABR (Anyone But Romney) crowd becomes the ABO (Anyone But Obama) crowd, if he should win the nomination.

bflat879 on February 10, 2012 at 8:10 AM

Jazz Shaw is a Rockefeller Republican from New York. How he gets gigs on right of center blogs is a mystery.He is closer to David Brooks or David Frum than mainstream conservative thought.

celtic warrior on February 10, 2012 at 8:11 AM

whomever picked a candidate and stood strong this early looks absurd. All the candidates are terrible.

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:11 AM

The “tell us what we want to hear and we would support you” crowd is causing a massive damage to the Republican Party. This crowd of fools bases its decision and voting not on actions but on rhetoric. Romney is a liberal in the majority of his public actions but these fools who call themselves conservatibes are telling him just let us hear conservative stuff from you and we will support you and your liberal record of actions is not an issue anymore. It is very sad to watch… May be after all we deserve Obama…

mnjg on February 10, 2012 at 8:13 AM

tee hee :) I’m often rude but always honest

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:09 AM

That’s the only way to be, grasshoppah.

:o)

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:13 AM

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:10 AM

My guess? His first goal (and he’s actually said this) is to raise taxes across the board in 2013. Milk the middle class – that’s where the money is.

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:14 AM

May be after all we deserve Obama…

mnjg on February 10, 2012 at 8:13 AM

NO AMERICAN deserves a Marxist leader.

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:14 AM

48 degrees in Texas! stop being so cold florida

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:02 AM

Supposed to have a freeze overnight. Hopefully it won’t be too widespread. The price of strawberries are high enough without crops getting wiped out.

Flora Duh on February 10, 2012 at 8:15 AM

“‘I have a record of being a strong conservative on the issues that matter, and I’ll point that out to my friends at CPAC,’ – Willard Romney

LOL
I wish we could post graphics here, I have some great gifs that sum it up well.

Oh, by the by …
Just look at all of the “conservative” pundits, talking heads, and blog posters who are jumping off the MittBot Bandwagon in droves.
LOL
“I don’t care who ya are, that right thar is funny!”

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on February 10, 2012 at 8:16 AM

My guess? His first goal (and he’s actually said this) is to raise taxes across the board in 2013. Milk the middle class – that’s where the money is.

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:14 AM

He has succeeded in decimating the middle class. First he had to tear asunder… then he will purport to rebuild us… this is his mantra. Anyone who votes for this one man marxist wrecking ball on fire is a fool.

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:17 AM

Yeah, all these candidates have warts and I’m going with the least warty(?), Santorum. What’s taking Romney so long anyway to prove he’s a conservative? He’s been running forever. Just the fact that he has to keep regrouping with his goons to retool his messages is disturbing. The establishment keeps putting up these nominees that we have to keep trying to drag across the finish line. My nose hurts from holding it so much voting for these Bob Dole types, I have no teeth left from getting kicked in the teeth by “mavericks” like McCain, who like to throw conservatives under the bus when convenient, but of course choose them as running mates to get propped up. At least with Santorum there is someone I can vote “for”. And who knows who his VP choice might be? IMHO there’s half of a pretty terrific combination there already.

mozalf on February 10, 2012 at 8:18 AM

Supposed to have a freeze overnight. Hopefully it won’t be too widespread. The price of strawberries are high enough without crops getting wiped out.

Flora Duh on February 10, 2012 at 8:15 AM

Really? Where at?

/I don’t have the weather channel. Are you in the panhandle?

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM

Bob Dole!

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:23 AM

Texas’s panhandle is way better than Florida’s panhandle!

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:24 AM

I’ve been lurking ad reading this thread throughout the night…now off to donate blood….

If Romney is so ‘electable’, why can’t he close the deal? The guy is a snake oil salesman who wants to buy the presidency. As for matching up against Obama? Please…stop insultng our intelligence. Nominating Romney would take Obamacare off the table for SCOTUS.

red131 on February 10, 2012 at 8:25 AM

Bob Dole!

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:23 AM

For pineapple!

John the Libertarian on February 10, 2012 at 8:25 AM

Romney won’t be able to fake conservatism.

Valiant on February 10, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Plastic Man!Romney.

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:32 AM

Romney won’t be able to fake conservatism.

Valiant on February 10, 2012 at 8:28 AM

There are many fools are willing to be deceived by Romney fake conservatism.

mnjg on February 10, 2012 at 8:33 AM

For pineapple!

John the Libertarian on February 10, 2012 at 8:25 AM

Er. Poster boy for ED.

/And that’s not ‘short’ for education.

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:33 AM

The picture under the headline looks like Romney could be one of those Monty Python-esque graphics where only the lower jaw flaps up and down when he talks. When his goons flip on the switch.

mozalf on February 10, 2012 at 8:36 AM

The reason that Romney is having such a hard time with true conservatives is that he’s constantly at odds with his core beliefs. He’s not convincing because it’s just not in his DNA. The other three are much more convincing, and passionate, about their principles. Romney just sounds like he’s reading from a teleprompter. With all of his attacks on the other candidates, he’s failed to layout a platform to solve the problems we have. He talks about fixing many things, but fails to say how he’s going to do it. I don’t think that he can overcome that problem.

cajunpatriot on February 10, 2012 at 8:37 AM

Romney better deliver the speech of speeches at CPAC.

John the Libertarian on February 9, 2012 at 10:58 PM

And you sir represents the big problem with voters… You want a damn speech that is full of the red meat you love and Romney liberal record be damned as long as he tells what you want to hear.

mnjg on February 10, 2012 at 8:38 AM

“‘He knows exactly how people are reacting and feeling right now,’ the participant said of the Romney meeting. ‘He is going to have to give a big speech tomorrow and I think he just wanted to make some people feel comfortable. It’s just an opportunity to talk to some friends.’”

Yeah… just make some people feel comfortable so he has a better chance of winning. Then it won’t matter anymore and he can be who he is. I leftist.

JellyToast on February 10, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Plastic Man!Romney.

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:32 AM

lolz…mitten’s can’t dance

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:41 AM

Does Allahpundit choose the pictures that accompany the headlines? He seems to ALWAYS choose unflattering pictures of the candidates. Seems to be done on purpose.

How ironic that Allahpundit hides his own face, yet apparently goes out of his way to post the worst, most unflattering pictures of the people he writes about. Does he try to pause the videos for screenshots at the very point when the subject is making a goofy or creepy looking expression?

bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 8:42 AM

mnjg on February 10, 2012 at 8:38 AM

I think he was expressing the same sentiment you are…in fewer words

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:43 AM

bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 8:42 AM

yo mamma bluegill…yo.mamma.

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:44 AM

That’s ok- “it’s a process.” And besides, most of the MittHate crowd in here have waffled from Cain or perry to Newt now to Santorum , soon to brokered – who’s next ? ……… So you are way more confident then those that keep switching candidates with whichever the direction the wind is blowing. Those that cannot make up their minds usually need someone else to do that for them. They are ….. Flipping and flopping all the way to Tampa.

FlaMurph on February 10, 2012 at 8:08 AM

I have many of the same concerns about Santorum’s interest in “bedroom issues” that others share and would find if difficult to pull the lever for him if he were the nominee. In fact the only thing that would make me be able to do so is knowing that he would be tempered by Congress from submitting outlandish legislation. Unless he went Obama on us and attempted to dictate by executive order.

The reason I rag on bluegill is to expose her blatant hypocrisy and over-the-top hyperbole. Because in our first ever encounter here on HA she didn’t like that I snarked on some ridiculous comment made by jailbreak, told me to leave Hot Air, and demanded that come November I will vote for Romney and I will like it.

I don’t take kindly to being ‘ordered’ to do something from my own husband. I sure as hell am not going to take it from some anonymous keyboard commando. And even after I told her to ignore my comments and I’d ignore hers, she just couldn’t stop herself from arrogantly inserting her smug sarcasm into almost every discussion I was having. If she can dish it out, she better learn how to take it without whining about “Romney haters”.

btw, I’m not a Romney supporter, but I don’t “hate” him. And I defy anyone here to find one comment where I have ever said anything “hateful” about him, his family, or his supporters. As a matter of fact, I challenge anyone to show one comment where I’ve made any statement of fact about him that hasn’t included a source to back-up what I’ve posted.

I became a Gingrich supporter when Herman Cain showed he knew virtually nothing about foreign policy. And I’m still a Gingrich supporter, so the only “Flipping and flopping” I’ll be doing all the way to Tampa will be the ones I’ll be wearing.

Flora Duh on February 10, 2012 at 8:48 AM

mnjg on February 10, 2012 at 8:38 AM

Yup. He better give a great speech.

John the Libertarian on February 10, 2012 at 8:48 AM

Really? Where at?

/I don’t have the weather channel. Are you in the panhandle?

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM

About 75 miles south of the big bend on the west coast.

Flora Duh on February 10, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Because you’re comparing the 60′s-70′s to now. That was a generation ago.
Best to you in your studies, grasshoppah.

Key West Reader on February 10, 2012 at 8:05 AM

Actually, sensei, that was 2+ generations ago.
Not to pick nits or anything. Just glad to help out.

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on February 10, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Does Allahpundit choose the pictures that accompany the headlines? He seems to ALWAYS choose unflattering pictures of the candidates. Seems to be done on purpose.

How ironic that Allahpundit hides his own face, yet apparently goes out of his way to post the worst, most unflattering pictures of the people he writes about. Does he try to pause the videos for screenshots at the very point when the subject is making a goofy or creepy looking expression?

bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 8:42 AM

What exactly is “worst, most unflattering” there? It’s him smiling. I can’t stand him, so naturally I cringe.

Marcus on February 10, 2012 at 9:00 AM

PBHO tells us that robbing from the rich and giving to the poor is the moral thing to do. His Judeo-Christian bible says so. Same for forcing reproductive services be made available to all. Since morality is the mother of legislation, we’re all cool with that, right?

Now, I know what many here are thinking. That it isn’t moral and that their bible says otherwise. And in so doing, you raise an excellent point. But how to convince PBHO that his bible is wrong and yours is right?

Here is my modest proposal. We gather all of the holy men from all sides of the argument. Subpoena them, if necessary, and have them have it out before Congress. We will invite Jeremiah Wright and Pat Robertson, the Pope and Jesse Jackson, &c for a series of debates. And then when they’ve all agreed on what the bible of this country really means we can all get behind the legislation to implement it.

MJBrutus on February 10, 2012 at 9:04 AM

It annoys me to see people on this blog accuse bluegill of being a paid Romney shill. This is definitely not true. Each day and each post it becomes more apparent that bluegill’s entire purpose is to solidify the base against RINOs and establishment moderates. Why else would she continually blast Levin, Rush, talk radio, Palin, “true conservatives” and the Tea Party? Why would she continually degrade conservatives in such a blatantly crass way on such a widely read and influential conservative website? Face it: No one could have energized conservatives against Romney as much as bluegill has. I’m guessing she’s been paid by the Koch brothers, but really it could have been any conservative benefactor. If there are other bluegills at other conservative sites playing a comparable role, I predict a massive sweep against liberals and squishes this next election.

Burke on February 10, 2012 at 9:05 AM

Thanks blugill! you’re the bestest

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 9:13 AM

That’s ok- “it’s a process.” And besides, most of the MittHate crowd in here have waffled from Cain or perry to Newt now to Santorum , soon to brokered – who’s next ? ……… So you are way more confident then those that keep switching candidates with whichever the direction the wind is blowing. Those that cannot make up their minds usually need someone else to do that for them. They are ….. Flipping and flopping all the way to Tampa.

FlaMurph on February 10, 2012 at 8:08 AM

I agree with you. I think some people are reacting to their false perceptions of Romney or to what people tell them about Romney.

It’s so interesting how one person can see someone and like their appropriate formality and calm, competent, reassuring demeanor, and another person can look at the same person and think they aren’t warm or likeable. Some voters are moved by preacher-like candidates and candidates who overdo it with the cheesy folskiness, and some find them artificial.

By the way, I recommend you all read “The Real Romney” if you ever have some extra time. It gives what seems like a very full picture of Mitt Romney. I think many of you will come away more impressed with the man. This isn’t a hagiography, by any means. It describes the warts and all, though there really aren’t a whole lot of warts on the man.

bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 9:15 AM

Burke on February 10, 2012 at 9:05 AM

I don’t continually blast Rush and Levin. That’s a bunch of baloney. I just blast the people who worship those guys and hang on their every word.

bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Jazz Shaw has an excellent article up at Pajamas Media which puts Rick Santorum into focus. His logic is unassailable.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/this-is-rick-santorum/2/

Basilsbest on February 10, 2012 at 8:01 AM

It is excellent, (as it reflects my own view of Santorum as well). Worth the read.

lynncgb on February 10, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Jazz Shaw has an excellent article up at Pajamas Media which puts Rick Santorum into focus.

Basilsbest on February 10, 2012 at 8:01 AM

So Mitt now has the important Jazz Shaw endorsement to add to that of Meghan’s and Karl’s? Oh, well I guess I’m sold then. S

Burke on February 10, 2012 at 9:19 AM

I prefer bologna

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Jazz Shaw! Well…I guess I’m voting mittens now!

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Burke on February 10, 2012 at 9:19 AM

I didn’t see it as any attempt at hardcore selling. I think it’s just something that should be given some thought if you are a Santorum supporter.

lynncgb on February 10, 2012 at 9:26 AM

No one cares what that carnival barker Mark Levin has to say. I don’t need to hear from him before I can make up my mind.

bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 5:19 AM

I don’t continually blast Rush and Levin. That’s a bunch of baloney.

bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 9:17 A

You’re doing that on purpose, aren’t you, bluegill. You know what I mean–beclowning yourself, contradicting yourself, blasting out shrilly and unconvincingly in order to make yourself unpopular and even hated on this site. I’m on to you. It’s the Koch brothers….they’re paying you to whip up anger against Mitt and squishes in general. Don’t worry. It can be our little secret. *wink wink*

Burke on February 10, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Jazz Shaw has an excellent article up at Pajamas Media which puts Rick Santorum into focus.

Basilsbest on February 10, 2012 at 8:01 AM

Excellent indeed, if not blindingly obvious. It amazes me that articles like this one need even to be written!

MJBrutus on February 10, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Texas’s panhandle is way better than Florida’s panhandle!

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 8:24 AM

You forgot the sarc tag.

Eren on February 10, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Jazz Shaw has an excellent article up at Pajamas Media which puts Rick Santorum into focus. His logic is unassailable.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/this-is-rick-santorum/2/

Basilsbest on February 10, 2012 at 8:01 AM

I read the article…a “conservative Godzilla” sounds real good to me.

cajunpatriot on February 10, 2012 at 9:44 AM

bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 7:56 AM

There’s too much freedom goin’ on out there.

MJBrutus on February 10, 2012 at 7:58 AM

If you don’t understand what Santorum is saying about the slippery slope of moral relativism, and the dangers of an “anything that feels good” society without demagoguing the argument, then you have a clue, or just want to distort the debate to slime yet one more candidate for your beloved Mittens.

The idea is that the state doesn’t have rights to limit individuals’ wants and passions. I disagree with that. I think we absolutely have rights because there are consequences to letting people live out whatever wants or passions they desire. And we’re seeing it in our society. ~Rick Santorum

It’s clear he’s not talking about kicking down your door to catch you two in the act,.. he’s alluding to the bigger issues, one you are distorting for short term gain.

Lots of “passions”.. “wants” are already illegal, like gambeling, like prostitution, like any number of crimes that fall under “compelling interest”.. Should anything go?.. and why restrict your personal freedom at all?… only a moron would argue for complete absolute freedom, and that is what Santorum is addressing..

Gay marrage,.. how do you then say no to bigamy? how do you say no to lowering age of consent laws? or for that matter… how can you regulate any sin?.. liberals do it all the time.. they’ll telll you it’s ok to marry your first cousin or your college room mate.. but they tax the Hell out of smokers, because they hate the behavior, hate the “..sinner”

You’re being santimonious, and it shows,.. so desperate to save a foundering Mitt, you shamelessy distort Santorum’s message. One we social cons have been talking about for decades.. it’s not new, or extreme, Santorum is saying, why remove all the morals laws, when they hurt nobody, and actually do some good.. Not sure I agress with all that, but’s it”s less extreme that Paul’s message..

and a Hell of a lot more attractive to parents.

mark81150 on February 10, 2012 at 9:49 AM

mark81150 on February 10, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Hahahahahaha!!!! You are precious!

csdeven on February 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Your logic, albeit understandable populist emotion, experiments with 2 different control groups and dissimilar subjective variables trying to arrive at a similar continuous outcome. Selectivity has to creep in to the logic to alter the outcome as we desired.
For instance, the very conservative group The Heritage Foundation worked with the Mitt to craft His side of the Mass HC legislation. Can we assume from that precedent that the fine folks at The Heritage Foundation would work with Mitt in the oval office on some adaptation of the Mass HC plan for the nation? I don’t see that happening, Do you ? but if past history was an absolute determinant as you suggest we would have to say yes.
Forecasting can be a tricky game.

FlaMurph on February 10, 2012 at 1:13 AM

There is no populist emotion in my logic. Maybe you could try to explain rather than simply charge. There are no control groups, this is the real world with real world actions and reactions. There is no selectivity at all, it is purely based on the events of the day, and are all inclusive in the end result. 49 state sweep in 1984. Wide loss in 1992, and the reason he had the albatross of Perot to deal with is that he was a total failure as president.

As primary voters, we have a duty to pick a leader that will both lead the nation as a whole to the right, and push for policies that will improve the lives of the people. Considering how far into socialism our nation has moved, it would not be hard to improve the peoples lives with conservative policies. But the people will want to have those policies and will not tolerate them being shoved down their throats. Romney will fail.

astonerii on February 10, 2012 at 10:16 AM

bluegill on February 10, 2012 at 8:02 AM

Rofl.

Yeah, except I’ve debunked you once already on that stuff.

“If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything. Does that undermine the fabric of our society? I would argue yes, it does.”
-Rick Santorum, supporting a ban on private, consensual sex.

Rick is right. The constitution does not prohibit the government from making laws that regulate private consensual sex. Thus laws against incest and polygamy are not unconstitutional. I would love to see your argument against his common-sense statement.

“One of the things I will talk about, that no president has talked about before, is I think the dangers of contraception in this country. It’s not okay. It’s a license to do things in a sexual realm that is counter to how things are supposed to be. [Sex] is supposed to be within marriage. It’s supposed to be for purposes that are yes, conjugal…but also procreative. That’s the perfect way that a sexual union should happen…This is special and it needs to be seen as special.”
-Rick Santorum

Look out libertarians! Santorum supports having a conversation about contraception and wants to convince people that marriage should be a special union between a man and a woman. Heaven forbid we elect someone that wants to have a talk about moral issues. Run for your lives! He wants to discuss things we dislike!!!

“The state has a right to do that, I have never questioned that the state has a right to do that. It is not a constitutional right, the state has the right to pass whatever statutes they have.”
-Rick Santorum, happily asserting that states can ban birth control

Again, is he wrong? Can the states not ban a drug or product? If not, then why isn’t heroine illegal? Please show me what part of the constitution prohibits states from banning a substance/service/product. Oh, Santorum, you silly so-con you. Quit stating uncomfortable facts.

“The idea is that the state doesn’t have rights to limit individuals’ wants and passions. I disagree with that. I think we absolutely have rights because there are consequences to letting people live out whatever wants or passions they desire.”

-Rick Santorum

“Whatever, whatever, I’ll do what I want!”/

Yeah, the state can’t limit your wants and passions huh? Again, you may not like to hear this, but the state can (and in fact does) limit what you can do, no matter how much you want to do it. That’s why we have laws that prohibit oh…theft, for example.

Pattosensei on February 10, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Jazz Shaw has an excellent article up at Pajamas Media which puts Rick Santorum into focus. His logic is unassailable.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/this-is-rick-santorum/2/

Basilsbest on February 10, 2012 at 8:01 AM

Great,… another conservative who talks the talk, but shies away from the walk..

I actually like Santorum more now, but like Mr. Shaw, maybe I’m prejudiced.. in 2004, our third child,

He was stillborn, 8 months, near full term, under weight because the placenta failed, causing his death. We had no idea, and I walked into the ER as they rushed my wife upstairs to check on him, they wisked him away, we had no warning something was wrong.

They handed him to me, and I held him, his face, his face will be in my mind forever, the face my daughter has, my son,.. his was the same as his brother and sister, and he was so small.. so small.. I held him along time, crying, praying, please, please please God, no.. take me. not him,.. not our baby..

His face is still in my mind..

and anyone who tells me, he wasn’t a baby, just a fetus, just tissue,.. that abortion is a “right” at any time through the gestation period,.. that Mom’s right to party trumps his right to just..

live…

I’ll see that person in Hell first.

Abortion, is murder, when you can detect brainwaves, a heartbeat,.. it’s a human, a person. So yes, I’d gladly see any doctor preforming this abomination thrown in prison and left to rot.. the incest/rape argument? Less than 1 percent of abortions claim that as a reason.. I know too many lower income women.. it’s birth control, for the insanely lazy and stupid, They admit it.. they don’t like condoms, forget to take the pill.. so don’t bother..

abortion is a crime against the future, and against mankind, and a doctor who loves doing it, a freak who deserves God’s judgemnt.. Don’t worry, I don’t stalk any of them, it’s not in me.. it is however in me, to talk sense to people who think if they can’t see it… then the baby remains an “it”

not a she…

a he..

not a child.. I have our two children, and I clothe and feed three nieces and nephews whoe’s monm’s (sisters in law) are homeless.. 5 children, each as precious as valuable as any life ever lived.. The ugly, stunted souls who can snuff these lives out, just for the crime of inconvenience…mommy’s busy, mommy’s got a life,… mommy’s a clueless fool who’s too lazy to use a damn pill…

Yeah, Santorum looks very good to me, Because I’m sick of the ammoral slackers who place their own personal needs above all else, and are shocked.. shocked,.. anyone could not think tossing that kitten in a bound sack into the river, is just fine..

There is a special level of Hell reserved for the abortion lovers.. don’t think I want to put them there, they would have done that, themselves.

I can forgive a scared child, a teen led down this path, there is nothing but compassion for them.. but the doctors, the councilers.. the abortion mills.. They have to go much higher up for forgiveness.

I still see his face..

if, anyone who can be nonpassionate in these childrens fates, has no heart, no soul, and I feel sorry for you. Those children see God, and innocense is never wasted, but you’ll never convince me, an abortionist will ever see Heavan..

mark81150 on February 10, 2012 at 10:28 AM

then why isn’t heroine illegal?

Oops, that’s what I get for typing too fast.

Why isn’t heroin legal.

Pattosensei on February 10, 2012 at 10:29 AM

You forgot the sarc tag.

Eren on February 10, 2012 at 9:40 AM

:(

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 10:36 AM

Jazz Shaw has an excellent article up at Pajamas Media which puts Rick Santorum into focus. His logic is unassailable.
http://pjmedia.com/blog/this-is-rick-santorum/2/

Basilsbest on February 10, 2012 at 8:01 AM

I can assail every one of his points with two sentences:

Rick Santorum can believe whatever he wants to believe. His legislation will be limited by Congress.

In fact all of Jazz’s arguments in the piece (on abortion, homosexuality and creationism…every point) have been assailed before. I’ll leave it to the ones who already have done so. He may think it is to 11, but that is on HIS scale. Jazz can only speak for himself.

Pattosensei on February 10, 2012 at 10:36 AM

mark81150 on February 10, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Hahahahahaha!!!! You are precious!

csdeven on February 10, 2012 at 9:59 AM

my dog likes me…

my wife loves me,

my children,

my nieces,

nepphews..

everybody else?…. no one is the best judge of how others see them, fair enough, I have the only fan club that matters.

mark81150 on February 10, 2012 at 10:42 AM

I’d put my dog first too :)

DHChron on February 10, 2012 at 10:59 AM

:P

mark81150 on February 10, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Rick Santorum is a likeable guy and I would vote for him in a general election.

but as Jazz shows in his PJmedia piece what works in the nominating process with conservatives will be played constantly in general.

1.Many videos of Santorum denouncing abortions in all circumstances making it criminal.
2. every video of Santorum alluding to gays.
3.every video of Santorum of alluding women should just be homemakers.
4. every video of Santorrum implying restrictions on contraception.

Romney won’t use this line of attack because Santorums views appeal to the base republican party But you can be sure Obama will and will scare both the the left and the center.

gerrym51 on February 10, 2012 at 12:02 PM

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