George Lucas: Greedo shot first at Han in the original “Star Wars”

posted at 10:06 pm on February 9, 2012 by Allahpundit

Via Ace, the guy just can. not. stop. He tried to ruin the original trilogy by making terrible prequels, but that didn’t work. Then he tried to ruin them with brutally cheesy re-edits, and that didn’t work. So now he’s going to start telling you that the things you loved about the original movies were never actually there in the first place. Mark my words: One of these days, he’s going to say that we’ve all misunderstood and that Darth Vader is actually Luke’s stepfather. It’s coming. It’ll be the coup de grace.

I take back what I said about the new Spider-Man movie. There actually is something worse than remaking a 10-year-old blockbuster.

THR: People can get fanatical about the movies — how does that make you feel? The puppet vs. CGI Yoda ruckus, and the who-shot-first, Han Solo or Greedo furor come to mind.

Lucas: Well, it’s not a religious event. I hate to tell people that. It’s a movie, just a movie. The controversy over who shot first, Greedo or Han Solo, in Episode IV, what I did was try to clean up the confusion, but obviously it upset people because they wanted Solo [who seemed to be the one who shot first in the original] to be a cold-blooded killer, but he actually isn’t. It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Greedo is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because they wanted to think that he actually just gunned him down.

It’s the same thing with Yoda. We tried to do Yoda in CGI in Episode I, but we just couldn’t get it done in time. We couldn’t get the technology to work, so we had to use the puppet, but the puppet really wasn’t as good as the CGI. So when we did the reissue, we had to put the CGI back in, which was what it was meant to be.

This is the problem in a nutshell: He’s the only one who thinks the puppet wasn’t as good as the CGI. He also probably thinks the CGI spacecraft in the prequels were better than the models they used in the original trilogy. Not so. As good as CGI is now, it often still looks artificial in a way that the models and costumes didn’t. (See the brilliant Red Letter Media critiques of the prequels for much, much, much more on Lucas’s ruinous addiction to computer-generated imagery.) I’m sincerely amazed sometimes at how little he seems to understand why his movies appeal to people. Even if he did intend to edit the original Han/Greedo scene so that Greedo shot first, you’d think he’d have the good sense to accept the public’s misunderstanding of a happy accident and play it off as something he intended. Of course Han should shoot first: He’s a roguish space cowboy in a seedy saloon in the space equivalent of the wild west. He’s got a gun pointed at him and some shady green varmint telling him he’s about to die. Pull the trigger. The difference between Lucas and Spielberg is how Lucas re-edited the Greedo scene and how Spielberg didn’t re-edit the scene of Indiana Jones shooting the swordsman in “Raiders of the Lost Ark.” Spielberg fully understands why the latter is so cool. He wouldn’t change it if you chained him to the editing machine, I’d bet.

I’m starting to think Lucas’s endless mind games with “Star Wars” fans is some sort of “Magic Christian” prank in which he’s gotten bored with his mountain of money and is now having fun by messing with people’s heads. Maybe he’ll put Jar Jar in one of the TIE fighters at the end of “Star Wars” when he does the next re-edit, just to kick his most devoted acolytes in the groin. Exit question: Should Obama step in and have this guy arrested before he can do any more damage? Granted, Lucas hasn’t done anything illegal, but O’s all about acting extra-legally for virtuous ends. And this end would be virtuous enough that his approval rating would jump 20 points overnight.

Update: Screwed up the headline but it’s fixed now.

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What really pisses me off is the prating about Han being a cold blooded killer if he shot first.

What?

A bounty hunter gets the drop on you, is pointing a gun at you and insists you go with him to at the very least you being robbed of your ship, and probably you being tortured and killed.

Killing that man is cold blooded?

It’s what I call self-defense.

Seriously, can’t anyone today tell the difference between good and evil?

Sackett on February 9, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Wow, did I manage to blow that comment. Let’s try again.

If Greedo shot first, he’s the worst bounty hunter in the universe because he can’t shoot someone three feet away from him in a reclining position.

Jabba’s like “Greedo, shoot that barn. No, you missed. No, you missed again. Holy crap, you suck.”

Nethicus on February 9, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Jabba’s like “Greedo, shoot that barn. No, you missed. No, you missed again. Holy crap, you suck.”

Nethicus on February 9, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Kind of like Kid Shelleen in Cat Ballou.

Mitoch55 on February 9, 2012 at 11:33 PM

I’m just glad there’s a hot gas blog post with a “Greedo” tag.

Tar Heel Sooner on February 9, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Apart from the Ewoks, I think RotJ is just as powerful as the first two. The entire storyline of Luke’s facing his father and the Emperor, and Vader’s struggle, is amazingly gripping.

MadisonConservative on February 9, 2012 at 10:42 PM

I had a hard time with the Ewoks and the casual, almost comical, destruction of Bobba Fett. As a 14 year old fan of the Fett Man, that was hard to swallow.

Captain Kirock on February 9, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Look, the man can’t gaslight us. We KNOW Han Solo shot first. Any of the changes made by the pod person replacement of the brilliant George Lucas of my childhood is just ewoks: it never happened. Yub nub, celebrate the love my nerf.

Javahog on February 9, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Star Trek > Star Wars

SouthernGent on February 9, 2012 at 10:18 PM

I don’t hate Star Trek, but no way!

Star Wars > Star Trek

TigerPaw on February 9, 2012 at 11:42 PM

George…..George! C’mon buddy! Stop it!

Didn’t you know Michaelangelo had one assistant who’s only job was to take the chisel away from him when he was finished?

Will someone pleeeeease take the chisel out of George’s hand before he chisels his work into a pile of dust?

itsspideyman on February 9, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Javahog on February 9, 2012 at 11:39 PM

The changes aren’t really for us older folks. They are for the young’uns.

Lucas wants to create a whole new original trilogy for the kids.
They’re gonna remember it totally different then we do.

Feminized culture…. feminized, sissy Star Wars.

B Man on February 9, 2012 at 11:56 PM

I can’t take it.

Re releases. Then re releases of the re releases.

Then 3D versions of the re releases.

Then IMAX 3D releases of the re released re releases

Then a blue ray 3D remastered version of the remastered re releases.

blatantblue on February 9, 2012 at 11:58 PM

It’s becoming increasingly obvious as time goes by that Gary Kurtz was the real talent and driving Force (see what I did there?) behind Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back. It’s no coincidence that every movie in the series after Kurtz and Lucas went their separate ways has sucked progressively worse.

Hayabusa on February 10, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I predict the next edit Lucas will make will be that the Death Star must fire first at Yavin 4 before the rebels decide to fight back. Since this will result in all the main characters being killed in the first movie, we will all then be spared from these endless politically correct sequels and re-edits.

Resolute on February 10, 2012 at 12:08 AM

The main problem with the whole freaking story is Darth Vader. He is a bad guy. No, worse than that. He’s pure evil. Think about it…
Kills lots of people including children in Ep III
Works with the dark side emperor/senator in Eps III-VI
Kills Billions of people in Ep IV (Alderaan)
Tortures Leia in prison
Kills lots of more people in Ep V
Kills even more people in Ep VI…

…then what happens??? He goes soft, kills the emperor, and gets to go to Jedi Heaven, hanging with Yoda and Ben. WTF???@?!111?

No way.

You would think that Yoda and Ben would be pissed that Anakin gets to hang out with them, after all the evil he did. Nope. Happy happy joy joy in Jedi Heaven.

Stupid ending.

kutabeach on February 10, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Must… spend…. hours… obsessing….

Honey, I CAN’T come to bed! Someone on the internet is WRONG!!!

ABOUT STAR WARS!!!!

skydaddy on February 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM

I’m sincerely amazed sometimes at how little he seems to understand why his movies appeal to people.

Probably because, as the myths have receded over the last decade, it’s now increasingly obvious that he had very little to do with the success of the first trilogy. His vision and cache got the first movie made on an insufficient budget, but for Empire and Jedi he relied on actual filmmakers, who did an excellent job.

Even if he did intend to edit the original Han/Greedo scene so that Greedo shot first, you’d think he’d have the good sense to accept the public’s misunderstanding –

More than that, what George Lucas thinks about Star Wars doesn’t – or shouldn’t – matter. It’s an artistic creation. It is what it is. He doesn’t have the right (and I’m speaking in terms of critique here, not free speech or intellectual property or politics or whatever) to say “what is” and “what is not.”

The whole idea of “canon” and “Word of God” (in terms of fiction) is a geek culture phenomenon. In reality, artists are not supposed to – and in fact, almost never do – have the power to dictate how their own works are interpreted. What is on the screen is on the screen, period.

Eventually, the capitalist system will save Star Wars. When George finally expires, the rights to the films will go to people who don’t give a —- about his Jar-Jar theme park universe. They’ll hire some suits, and the suits will take about ten seconds before finally giving people what they want: the originals.

HitNRun on February 10, 2012 at 12:47 AM

George Lucas had made a lot of money by 1984.

George Lucas had the hand on the tiller of his own destiny.

George Lucas: What he did next was help make “Howard the Duck”.

Don’t be George Lucas. Find your Howard Kurtz and learn to live gracefully again.

This has been an PSA from the League Under the Concerned Attendees of Screenings (LUCAS).

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on February 10, 2012 at 12:54 AM

Gee, after 35 years and having seen Star Wars easily well over 100 times, I never considered who shot first. I always just thought Greedo’s shot missed and Han’s didn’t.

stukinIL4now on February 10, 2012 at 1:08 AM

“Star Wars” wasn’t even the best movie of 1977.

The best movie of 1977 was “Kentucky Fried Movie”.

Moscow in flames, Missles headed for NY, film at 11.

Wallythedog on February 10, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Lucas became uncomfortable, as a liberal, with the fact that a hero he created, killed preemptively. So he literally revised history.

keep the change on February 10, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Lucas became uncomfortable, as a liberal, with the fact that a hero he created, killed preemptively. So he literally revised history.

keep the change on February 10, 2012 at 1:16 AM

Or, it could be late-stage syphilis.

RedCrow on February 10, 2012 at 1:23 AM

That does explain it somewhat. I just couldn’t get into the ‘prequels’. They were watchable but lacked the magic of the first three.

sharrukin on February 9, 2012 at 10:32 PM

Enduring the prequels reminded me that I really hate sci-fi as a genre. We just don’t get along.

What made the original trilogy so great was the story first and foremost. All the special effects in the world are no substitute, which, ironically, the three prequels illustrate perfectly.

PatriotGal2257 on February 10, 2012 at 1:24 AM

Alright, lets face it – Han shot first and Lucas is an idiot.

That being said, as someone who grew up on the prequels (ducks shot from Solo-wannabes) I think both trilogies compliment the story. Kinda like Lewis wrote the Magicians Nephew so Narnia’s creation could be explained, Lucas had to explain the story of Vader, or else everyone would be complaining about him not doing it.

I love star wars regardless of Lucas attempting to rewrite history to give the racial minority the first shot, and that includes Jar Jar Binks being much better then the idiotic Ewoks in Episode 6… (ducks more gun fire, but reveals hidden lightsaber and cuts y’all in half)

timbok on February 10, 2012 at 1:26 AM

I soo wanted to be a disco queen.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 9, 2012 at 10:14 PM

You also need one of these. :)

PatriotGal2257 on February 10, 2012 at 1:32 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 9, 2012 at 10:14 PM

Oops. Here’s a better link.

PatriotGal2257 on February 10, 2012 at 1:35 AM

PatriotGal2257 on February 10, 2012 at 1:24 AM

I agree. I grew up on (what the hell are we supposed to call them #4-#6?!?) the first three.

The ‘prequels’: I got through a total of about 30 minutes. (Flipping, of course.) It was always either a case of the little kid I can’t bring myself to care about, the lover story that was duller than golf, or so much motion on the screen that an epileptic would get fits.

I guess I’m saying that, besides the stories, the main characters in the first three were sympathetic(?) (Can’t believe I just said that…if you’ll excuse me, I’m meeting Roger Ebert for tacos.)

RedCrow on February 10, 2012 at 1:36 AM

All right, that does it. Plinkett delivers the eulogy for Lucas.

/”What’s wrong with your face, Thinginthemouthface?”

Christien on February 10, 2012 at 1:40 AM

But…but…butt…3D.

unclesmrgol on February 10, 2012 at 1:54 AM

Christien on February 10, 2012 at 1:40 AM

Watched all those a while back. Bookmarked to watch again.
“You see, a guy named William Shakeman once said…”
Hilarious.

RedCrow on February 10, 2012 at 1:57 AM

The main problem with the whole freaking story is Darth Vader. He is a bad guy. No, worse than that. He’s pure evil. Think about it…
Kills lots of people including children in Ep III

kutabeach on February 10, 2012 at 12:29 AM

Ep III? Which one is that — the original movie?

George Lucas enjoys polishing the paint on his car so much that he’s polished it all off.

unclesmrgol on February 10, 2012 at 1:59 AM

RedCrow on February 10, 2012 at 1:36 AM

Agree with you, too. LOL’d at the Roger Ebert thing :)

I also think that besides the original trilogy having a great storyline, the special effects complemented them immensely. In 1977, there was nothing else like Star Wars.

Of course, by the time Return of the Jedi showed up in 1983, probably most moviegoers were getting accustomed to the use of special effects (E.T. came out the previous year) and the novelty of it was starting to wear off.

Now, of course, you can hardly get through any movie on any subject without being bombarded with all kinds of glitz to the point that it’s unusual to find a movie that doesn’t use them.

PatriotGal2257 on February 10, 2012 at 2:02 AM

I had a hard time with the Ewoks and the casual, almost comical, destruction of Bobba Fett. As a 14 year old fan of the Fett Man, that was hard to swallow.

Captain Kirock on February 9, 2012 at 11:36 PM

It was hard for the Sarrlac too…

Wolftech on February 10, 2012 at 2:08 AM

Now, of course, you can hardly get through any movie on any subject without being bombarded with all kinds of glitz to the point that it’s unusual to find a movie that doesn’t use them.

PatriotGal2257 on February 10, 2012 at 2:02 AM

Yep. You’re right. Hollywood is also kinda (well, mostly) stupid, too. If you’ve got crap for a story and dull characters, all the special effects aren’t gonna help. (At least, not for adults–my nephew loves the ‘prequels’.)

You should check out the Red Letter Media link. The videos are kinda long–but absolutely hilarious. Also, the guy makes some really good points.

Well, g’night.

RedCrow on February 10, 2012 at 2:12 AM

Has Lucas started living in Neverneverland with a chimp yet?

Sherman1864 on February 10, 2012 at 2:16 AM

Watch Red Letter Media’s evisceration of another Lucas-related film, Red Tails. The two reviewers spend much of the time administering a tag-team beatdown of George.

Christien on February 10, 2012 at 2:21 AM

Hey George Lucas! F U. No seriously, F U!!!!!

Yakko77 on February 10, 2012 at 2:55 AM

See the brilliant Red Letter Media critiques of the prequels for much, much, much more on Lucas’s ruinous addiction to computer-generated imagery.

+1

The Red Letter Media reviews are not only better than the prequels themselves, the gap in between the quality and entertainment value of the films and the reviews of the films is such that you could squeeze Lucas’s ego in between them.

alchemist19 on February 10, 2012 at 3:06 AM

Han didn’t shoot first, Han fired the only shot! Greedo had zero chance, like an idiot, he leveled a weapon on an opponent and didn’t use it.

Solo never came across as a cold blooded killer, he’s just smarter than that lackwit Rodian ever dreamed.

PXCharon on February 9, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Exactly. No matter how far back the camera had been pulled, no shot from Greedo’s weapon was there to be seen in the original version.

Ira on February 10, 2012 at 4:14 AM

Lucas: Well, it’s not a religious event. I hate to tell people that. It’s a movie, just a movie. The controversy over who shot first, Greedo or Han Solo, in Episode IV, what I did was try to clean up the confusion, but obviously it upset people because they wanted Solo [who seemed to be the one who shot first in the original] to be a cold-blooded killer, but he actually isn’t. It had been done in all close-ups and it was confusing about who did what to whom. I put a little wider shot in there that made it clear that Greedo is the one who shot first, but everyone wanted to think that Han shot first, because they wanted to think that he actually just gunned him down.

Sometimes, George, I can’t believe you had anything to do with the original trilogy because you say stuff like this that makes it sound like you don’t know what the frack you’re talking about concerning your own work.

Every Star Wars fan knows that Solo isn’t a “cold-blooded killer”, he’s the scoundrel who’s always looking out for Numero Uno. He gets cornered in a bar by an ugly, green, fish-faced alien with a gun. The alien goes on and on about a price being put on Solo’s head and that bounty hunters are looking all over for him. It doesn’t take a genius to figure out where that conversation is headed. All the while, Han is reclined in his seat acting nonchalant while his gun hand is under the table getting ready to draw. But not only is making Greedo shoot first a travesty, but the best part of the scene is when Han leans in and sarcastically delivers his line, “Yes, I bet you have.” before firing. With the “improvement” of the Special Edition, the “Yes” part of that line is mysteriously dubbed out, and you can see Harrison Ford’s mouth form the word, but no audio so that it just comes out, “[no audio] I bet you have.”. Am I nitpicking? You bet, but the original Star Wars and Empire were the best films of the series (Empire edges out A New Hope by mere percentage points) and while some of the enhancements needed to be done, it was this sort of idiocy that has cheapened the whole franchise. I still have the original versions on VHS and am seriously considering converting them to DVD.

tyketto on February 9, 2012 at 10:23 PM

I liked Radioland Murders…still have it on VHS somewhere. If you want to dump on George Lucas for attaching his name to a film, might I suggest Howard the Duck? Besides, Lucas only helped write Radioland, Mel Smith (the Albino from The Princess Bride) directed.

Left Coast Right Mind on February 10, 2012 at 4:23 AM

From
http://thethunderchild.com/ConradVeidt/page90.html
about Casablanca:

A little-known fact is that Conrad [Veidt], along with Humphrey Bogart, helped to shape the closing scenes of CASABLANCA. The scene in point is the one where Major Strasser attempts to phone the control tower and prevent the plane containing Victor Lazslo and Ilsa Lund from taking off. The original script called for Bogart to shoot the Nazi in the back while he was on the telephone. Both Bogart and Veidt agreed that this would be out of character for Bogart’s character Rick Blaine. So they convinced director Michael Curtiz to allow them to change the script by having Major Strasser go for his weapon first and Rick shoot him in self-defense. After a couple of on-the-spot run-throughs of the scene, Curtiz agreed and the rest is film history.

Actually, the airport scene was originally shot with Rick shooting Major Strasser without Strasser’s getting off a shot, but the only version shown in theaters had Strasser shooting first. Depending on the source, various people are responsible for the change.

Ira on February 10, 2012 at 4:38 AM

Actually, the airport scene was originally shot with Rick shooting Major Strasser without Strasser’s getting off a shot, but the only version shown in theaters had Strasser shooting first. Depending on the source, various people are responsible for the change.

Make believe that this was never in my previous post.

Ira on February 10, 2012 at 4:51 AM

Good God, who gives a damn! We’ve got a tyrant usurper in the White House systematically erasing individual liberties and a Congress and media enabling him and were discussing fictional characters in a decades old fantasy movie?

Maybe we do deserve another four years.

Cleombrotus on February 10, 2012 at 5:28 AM

Actually, anyone who really knows anything about Star Wars knows it was the little rat looking cantina character that snuck up under the table and pulled Han’s trigger for him. So technically Han did “not” shoot first. Greedo was killed none the less without even getting a shot off. But the Mos Eisley Storm Trooper Garrison was pretty consistent about not getting too heavy handed over local disputes.

hawkdriver on February 10, 2012 at 5:41 AM

When does George Lucas have a good movie?

1) When he is on a tight budget, tight timeline, and has actors who criticize his script.

OR

2) When he has a real director to actually take the steaming pile of mess that he puts out as a ‘script’ and re-edit it and turn it into something worth watching.

When he has money and total creative control, he sucks as a producer and a director.

And while I love the SFX of Dykstra and Co. that Lucas brought together, they have become so common as ILM that you get a feeling of sameness in any movie they work on. Want an original ‘look’? Don’t go for ILM. ILM is pure industrial SFX and while it is snazzy, it has gotten old real fast. I thank the heavens that B5 only had Amigas to run with to make their SFX: it did them a universe of good and sets the series apart from ILM ‘helped’ offerings.

ajacksonian on February 10, 2012 at 6:15 AM

Actually, Lucas doesn’t make movies. They’re more two hour commercials for his toy line. Bet he still has a warehouse full of Jar-Jar Binks merchandise that he can’t unload.

Tommy_G on February 10, 2012 at 6:59 AM

I have a 25YO Japanese Star Wars LD and on it, Solo shoots first.

roy_batty on February 10, 2012 at 7:13 AM

It is demonstrable that Mal Reynolds is Han Solo, and Mal shoots first…(0:47, 1:19, 1:49)

Freelancer on February 10, 2012 at 7:24 AM

When the original Star Wars came out, my dad dragged my family to see it on THREE separate occasions.

I was an eleven year old girl. Good times.

Grace_is_sufficient on February 10, 2012 at 7:26 AM

Just like the revised version of E.T.Instead of showing the government agents holding guns the newer version now shows then all holding radios.

logman1 on February 10, 2012 at 7:46 AM

5 Reasons Star Wars Actually Sucks

Do you guys think Mark Steyn or Victor Davis Hanson spend their rare free time obsessing about these childish things?

Please grow up already!

ConservativeTalkRadio on February 10, 2012 at 7:49 AM

What really pisses me off is the prating about Han being a cold blooded killer if he shot first.

What?

A bounty hunter gets the drop on you, is pointing a gun at you and insists you go with him to at the very least you being robbed of your ship, and probably you being tortured and killed.

Killing that man is cold blooded?

It’s what I call self-defense.

Seriously, can’t anyone today tell the difference between good and evil?

Sackett on February 9, 2012 at 11:26 PM

You have to remind yourself-this is the liberal mindest. Lucas is a looney lib like 99% of Hollywood. There is no such thing as “self defense” to a liberal. If you shoot someone with one of those evil guns, even if they shot first or are actively shooting at you, you’re a bad man-just as bad as the criminal, if not worse. Liberalism-this is your brain (what little is left of it) on drugs.

dave_ross on February 10, 2012 at 7:51 AM

Who shot first? Who played Greedo? Who laughs last?

U.S. first lady Michelle Obama attacked a national security hazard: obese Americans in the military.

maverick muse on February 10, 2012 at 7:51 AM

People,

PLEASE! Lucas has always been screwing with his audience. Need I remind you of the Star Wars Christmas special?

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2012 at 7:53 AM

10yo when Star Wars came out. And I was a huge fan. I had almost every toy imaginable.
I still love the old Star Wars.
But now I’m grown up. Who cares.
And now a headline like this reminds me of all my old D&D buddies who never grew up.

Badger40 on February 10, 2012 at 7:56 AM

U.S. first lady Michelle Obama attacked a national security hazard: obese Americans in the military.

maverick muse on February 10, 2012 at 7:51 AM

Michelle Obama IS a national security hazard. Not to mention that she’s also a bitter racist America-hating commie.

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2012 at 7:56 AM

Cleombrotus on February 10, 2012 at 5:28 AM

ConservativeTalkRadio on February 10, 2012 at 7:49 AM

Paging Sgt. Hulka.

Left Coast Right Mind on February 10, 2012 at 7:58 AM

“Star Wars” wasn’t even the best movie of 1977.

The best movie of 1977 was “Kentucky Fried Movie”.

Moscow in flames, Missles headed for NY, film at 11.

Wallythedog on February 10, 2012 at 1:16 AM

The popcorn you’re eating has been pissed in.

Film at 11.

Good Lt on February 10, 2012 at 7:59 AM

If it walks like a hack and quacks like a hack…

Hollywood “creative genius” is hack.

Hacks remain obsessed with their own sense of grandeur to the degree that the public enables the delusion.

That vicious cycle, feeding the elitist or charismatic false sense of entitlement, applies to voters grasping straws. Voters recognize that critical inroads have dissolved the foundation of America’s Constitutional Government. But too many voters are addicted to their own false sense of entitlement as to what society owes them or what they’ve rationalized that they “deserve”, and so perpetuate the status quo of greedo government authorities by willingly contributing to the furtherance of revisionism (latest version from the same old hacks), donating to hacks, propagandizing for hacks.

Not surprisingly, these days some “best” movies are indies, including some independent foreign flicks. Think outside of Hollywood.

maverick muse on February 10, 2012 at 8:12 AM

I saw the original release of Star Wars in a theater, in 1977, once. I’ve never seen any of the others or any show about SW. The only thing I can remember about the movie was where they kick the ship into hyper drive (or whatever it was called) and the stars become a blur. That was really super effects for the time.

TugboatPhil on February 10, 2012 at 8:21 AM

What really pisses me off is the prating about Han being a cold blooded killer if he shot first.

What?

A bounty hunter gets the drop on you, is pointing a gun at you and insists you go with him to at the very least you being robbed of your ship, and probably you being tortured and killed.

Killing that man is cold blooded?

It’s what I call self-defense.

Seriously, can’t anyone today tell the difference between good and evil?

Sackett on February 9, 2012 at 11:26 PM

This.

And beyond that, the scene is important in that it sets Han up as a mercenary who only looks out for number one. That’s what makes the scene at the end where he flies in to back Luke up at the Death Star so riveting — it’s the first time he risks himself without the promise of reward. He’s the most dynamic character of the movie.

Caiwyn on February 10, 2012 at 8:35 AM

Han didn’t shoot first, Han fired the only shot! Greedo had zero chance, like an idiot, he leveled a weapon on an opponent and didn’t use it.

Solo never came across as a cold blooded killer, he’s just smarter than that lackwit Rodian ever dreamed.

PXCharon on February 9, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Yep. They can have my original unaltered VHS movies when they pry them from my cold dead fingers.

JellyToast on February 10, 2012 at 8:36 AM

Admittedly, “Star Wars” was an American cultural phenomena. Previous blockbusters leading up to Star Wars included Lawrence of Arabia, Dr. Zhivago, One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest, and Cabaret. America’s mood was very disillusioned given the Vietnam War experience (The Deer Hunter, 1978; Apocalypse Now, 1979). Westerns had gone Spaghetti and dark. Subsequent to the fantasy 2001: A Space Odyssey, the contrasting Star Wars was packaged for mass consumption modeled successfully as a sci-fi Buccaneer Western. The ideals projected in the Star Wars trilogy, affectionately cushioned with warm and fuzzy Ewoks, provided the American public with a release valve, to juxtapose its optimistic “virtuous” future over its unpleasant memory of what just happened. Ironically, given the new shots of optimism from this flick Trilogy, look at how NASA squandered on an astronomical scale our tax dollars with inbred incompetency of its own bureaucratic making.

Rather than nitpicking over what he really meant to portray, Lucas would do well to revisit the original text, as reading is fundamental, and encourage the American public’s reading comprehension. Were Lucas to still read literature, he might actually get his act together.

maverick muse on February 10, 2012 at 8:39 AM

If Greedo shot first then he deserved to die! When you miss hitting the other guy at point-blank range, when your gun is already pointed at him, you need MORE than a seeing eye dog.

bigmike on February 10, 2012 at 8:44 AM

This shouldn’t really surprise anyone.
Lucas has the same two problems as all liberals:

1.) Can’t leave well enough alone…ever.
2.) Insane necessity to tell people they ‘Didn’t really see what they actually saw’.
Hey George, Solo wasn’t first to shoot, he was the ONLY shooter. And it ain’t YOUR movie anymore, genius, it’s OUR memory. It ceased being YOUR movie the minute you put it on the screen and became everyone else’s experience. So you can re-edit your picture all you want, but you can’t have my memory.
Like The Man said “it’s your party, it’s your charter..it’s MY VESSEL. When you’re aboard My vessel, you’re mate, master, pilot…and I’M Captain. Take ‘im fer ballast, Chief.”

a5minmajor on February 10, 2012 at 8:46 AM

If Greedo shot first then he deserved to die! When you miss hitting the other guy at point-blank range, when your gun is already pointed at him, you need MORE than a seeing eye dog.

bigmike on February 10, 2012 at 8:44 AM

If Greedo had shot first, Han would be dead.

JellyToast on February 10, 2012 at 8:47 AM

I remember there was once talk about putting Hayden Christiansen at the end of Return of the Jedi for Darth Vader. My first response was and still is to that: Luke Skywalker: [points at his father] “who the heck is that?”

jeffn21 on February 10, 2012 at 8:51 AM

Lucas is the poster child for George Orwells’ ’1984′.
He re-edits reality on a weekly basis.

I have an Starlog Magazine #7 the first print on the soon ot be released ‘Star War’ movie. There was only 1 movie, it was Star Wars. Only much, much later was there ‘episode 4′, and I have somewhere (also much later, but before Empire) an article where GeorgeL proclaims “9″ episodes…

Lucas is a tool.

Except for where he slammed the ScreenWriters Guild over opening credits. He paid the fines, supported Kershner and dropped out of the SWG, all over the union requirement to have ‘opening credits’.

orbitalair on February 10, 2012 at 8:54 AM

Obviously, Lucas is part of the cover up. Greedo did not shoot first. Bob Fett was hiding in the grassy knoll and fired first. Or are we to believe that Greedo’s laser shot went towards Han magically floated in mid air for a second came back down hit the Governor shattering his wrist, then went back up again and hit the wall?

jeffn21 on February 10, 2012 at 8:54 AM

DOH! Boba Fett, lol Bob Fett…

jeffn21 on February 10, 2012 at 8:54 AM

Well, some people might call Han Solo a “space cowboy”, but some call him the gangster of love.

Jeff A on February 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM

I think Penny Arcade said it best –
http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/09/22
Remember, this is the same man who insisted that Tom Seleck would make a better Indie than Harrison Ford.

McSmack on February 10, 2012 at 9:01 AM

You know, just from the standpoint of the craft of fiction, having Greedo shoot first is a bad idea. This means that Han Solo got out of danger by sheer dumb luck. It’s just by a stroke of luck that our secondary hero escapes harm just because he faces off against an opponent who is so improbably incompetent as a bounty hunter that he can’t hit a sitting target from the other side of a table. You’re not supposed to let your heroes win by dumb luck!

It also makes Han Solo a little dumb. The bounty hunter has just told him that he’s about to die AND the bounty hunter is pointing a gun at him. Waiting for Greedo to shoot first is just rock stupid, particularly for somebody who’s supposed to have experience in evading Imperial troops.

Forget “ruining our childhood”; this change takes a halfway decent story and turns it into hackwork.

Aitch748 on February 10, 2012 at 9:10 AM

If Greedo shot first then he deserved to die! When you miss hitting the other guy at point-blank range, when your gun is already pointed at him, you need MORE than a seeing eye dog.

bigmike on February 10, 2012 at 8:44 AM

I’m worried that you actually have an opinion about this!

Happy Nomad on February 10, 2012 at 9:11 AM

Lucas is on record as being fixated on the fact that in the original films he didn’t have the special effects to show ships taking off and landing like he wanted. This is why all the Prequels have these endless sequences where each ship lands and takes off in elaborate fashion. He actually wasted time and energy on this.

He also employs a “creative process” where he stamps his approval of character designs or sets or the like by marking Yes or No on them. But if he really loves something, he uses a “Fabulouso” stamp. Somewhere, there are Jar Jar Binks character design sheets covered in frantic “Fabulouso” stamps from this guy.

I am not kidding.

JeremiahJohnson on February 10, 2012 at 9:12 AM

Anyone who pays money to go see Star Wars in 3D is a complete and utter moron who deserves to be repeatedly kicked in the groin.

CoffeeMan on February 10, 2012 at 9:15 AM

skydaddy on February 10, 2012 at 12:38 AM

Heh

BobMbx on February 10, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Lucas, who bought the rights to the original Charlton Heston “Planet of the Apes”, is thinking of replacing the top of the Statue of Liberty with a Bob’s Big Boy instead.

(Or maybe the Eiffel Tower, so it’s not so darned American-centric.)

profitsbeard on February 10, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Wallythedog on February 10, 2012 at 1:16 AM

“What was that? This is not a chawade. We must have totaw concentwation. Now, twy again. But, this time, with feewing.”

ZK on February 10, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Besides, Greedo was just a bug that could talk so in reality all Hans did was swat a fly.

Move along….move along…

BobMbx on February 10, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Fortunately, Lucas’s greatest film was American Graffiti anyway, and that hasn’t yet been ruined (despite its forgettable sequel).

Chuckles3 on February 10, 2012 at 9:33 AM

George Lucas is to Hollywood as Jarles Chohnson is to LGF

IOW: the past may be adjusted continuously, so long as each one controls the script.

ya2daup on February 10, 2012 at 9:39 AM

People. If Greedo shot first, then why didn’t Han duck?

Suck it, Lucas. You can’t steal my 6-year old memories.

Dominion on February 10, 2012 at 9:50 AM

In addition to the aforementioned brilliant RLM critiques of the Star Wars prequels (including the new 3-D re-release!), they did a Siskel and Ebert-style review of Red Tails (the most recent George Lucas disaster). Worth your time.

Good Lt on February 10, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Who really cares? Hollywood has run out of ideas so prequels, sequels, remakes and trash are their only outlets. Oh and bashing conservatives and Christianity.

Christian Conservative on February 10, 2012 at 10:04 AM

In addition to the aforementioned brilliant RLM critiques of the Star Wars prequels (including the new 3-D re-release!), they did a Siskel and Ebert-style review of Red Tails (the most recent George Lucas disaster). Worth your time.

Good Lt on February 10, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Sad thing is, Red Tails was the first Lucas film I’ve seen that actually had a plot since The Last Crusade.

Judging by that awfully low bar, it wasn’t half-bad.

Of course, the film was in development hell for 25 years… and was partially handled by that Boondocks guy, Aaron MacGruder.

Myron Falwell on February 10, 2012 at 10:17 AM

If he did shoot first, how does one miss point blank like that?

jake49 on February 10, 2012 at 10:23 AM

RedCrow on February 10, 2012 at 2:12 AM

Thanks for the link! I think I have a new favorite movie review site. :)

PatriotGal2257 on February 10, 2012 at 11:07 AM

So Greedo, the professional bounty hunter, shot first from point blank range…..and missed? Brilliant!

jnelchef on February 10, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Lucas is trying to squeeze blood out of turnip, I love Star Wars as much as the next guy but this ridiculous. When are they going to re-release Animal House in 3D?

burserker on February 10, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Han didn’t shoot first, Han fired the only shot! Greedo had zero chance, like an idiot, he leveled a weapon on an opponent and didn’t use it.

Solo never came across as a cold blooded killer, he’s just smarter than that lackwit Rodian ever dreamed.

PXCharon on February 9, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Exactly. No matter how far back the camera had been pulled, no shot from Greedo’s weapon was there to be seen in the original version.

Ira on February 10, 2012 at 4:14 AM

Exactly. In the space of two seconds, Lucas established everything anyone needed to know about Han Solo.

RotJ was the start of Lucas’s obsession/reliance on special effects. He no longer had to worry about the budget since he’d made so much money off of ANH and TESB. He self-financed RotJ, and he owned ILM. Irv Kirshner and Harrison Ford essentially hijacked TESB when they were in London, and George was in Hollywood having screaming hysterics over the daily rushes. Even though he didn’t direct it himself, George very tightly controlled the RotJ director, and has never again let anyone have as much freedom as Kirshner got. And it shows in the prequels. Rumor has it that Spielberg directed the last twenty minutes or so of RotS, and I can believe it. There’s more character involvement and emotional buy-in in those twenty minutes than the entire rest of the prequels put together.

catsandbooks on February 10, 2012 at 12:48 PM

OK, does anyone want to recommend to me the best DVD set of the trilogy that avoids Lucas’s revisionism? Thanks.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on February 10, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Jabba’s like “Greedo, shoot that barn. No, you missed. No, you missed again. Holy crap, you suck.”

Nethicus on February 9, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Kind of like Kid Shelleen in Cat Ballou.

Mitoch55 on February 9, 2012 at 11:33 PM

More like Don Knotts in The Shakiest Gun in the West.

Random Numbers (Brian Epps) on February 10, 2012 at 2:08 PM

There’s an easy way to find out if he’s lying. Look at the script: http://www.blueharvest.net/scoops/anh-script.shtml

Yep, he’s lying.

Gordon Winslow on February 10, 2012 at 2:19 PM

I remember watching Star Wars on opening day at the Coronet in Frisco in ’77.

A major point of the scene, watching it for the first time, was you didn’t know whether this ‘Han’ smuggler character was going to prove a scumbag who’d turn Luke and friends over to the Empire for the reward the moment it became expeditious to do so. Han shooting first increased the likelihood he was such a ruthless character and therefore increased the suspense.

kd6rxl on February 10, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Holy Smokes, Batman, these people have to become so immersed in a freakin MOVIE that they actually spend time arguing about an unimportant part of a totally man-created movie that really has only the technology to separate it from the movie ‘Seven Cowboy Hero’s on the Trail’, or something like that…. lol

dahni on February 10, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Lucas has turned his job into a hobby.

Make the toy, then when you have enough money form selling it, you get to step back and play with it any way you want.

It really doesn’t seem to matter that much to Lucas what the rest of us like, anyway. The story is his, he likes that we like it, and revels in the fact we give him millions because of it. But the story is sitll his, it’s his sand-box, and we play in it at his pleasure, and his discretion, and by his rules.

It’s all just a big game to him at this point.

Lawrence on February 10, 2012 at 2:48 PM

“Greedo”?

What kind of moron names a character “Greedo”?

profitsbeard on February 10, 2012 at 8:55 PM

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