Report: Obama doubles down on new contraception rule at Democratic retreat

posted at 9:35 pm on February 8, 2012 by Allahpundit

But … what about the big climbdown? Ah well. Maybe he took a second look at what Planned Parenthood did to Komen and thought better of it. Even the man who leads the greatest army in the world needs to know when he’s outgunned.

Besides, how many divisions does the Pope have?

President Obama “reinforced” his stance on the controversial contraception mandate while speaking at the Democrats’ annual retreat at Nationals Park in Washington, D.C. today, Senate Democrats said.

The retreat was closed to media.

Following President Obama’s speech at the retreat, a small group of Senate Democrats, mostly women, left the retreat early in order to hold a news conference on Capitol Hill to counter the Republicans’ news conference today at which they called for the mandate to be overturned…

“The power to decide whether or not to use contraception lies with a woman – not her boss,” said Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y. “What is more intrusive than trying to allow an employer to make medical decisions for someone who works for them?”

Anyone want to field that question from ObamaCare supporter Kirsten Gillibrand? Also, I’m pretty sure religiously-affiliated groups don’t claim the power to decide whether women employees should “use” contraception; if they did, we wouldn’t be having a conversation over who should pay for the contraception that their employees use. (Answer: You should, of course, by paying higher premiums to subsidize the cost of birth control to the insurer.) If you missed it at the Weekly Standard, go read the Hawaii “compromise” proposal that’s kicking around in Democratic circles. In lieu of making religiously-affiliated groups pay, the new rule instead would … force them to tell employees where they can go to get birth control — i.e. “the Catholic Church must directly send women to drugs and devices that are morally wrong and can do harm to them.” It’s as if HHS’s supporters don’t understand the core objection to the policy. It’s not the money, it’s the compulsion applied to the group to promote activity that it considers immoral as a matter of faith. Or maybe they understand it just fine and that’s the real point of all this — to pressure religious holdouts into promoting contraception, however grudgingly, in order to remove any last lingering bits of stigma attached to it. After all, if the Hawaii compromise is on the table, then it’s not really about the money for HHS’s supporters either.

The GOP is already working on a bill to rescind the HHS rule, which means political war until this is resolved. How eager are swing-state Democrats to end up in no man’s land? Over to you, Tim Kaine:

“I think the White House made a good decision in including a mandate for contraception coverage in the Affordable Care Act insurance policy, but I think they made a bad decision in not allowing a broad enough religious employer exemption,” Kaine said, according to a transcript of his remarks provided by his campaign.

“This is something that’s been talked about a lot today and I have definitely expressed my grave concerns to the White House about that. I support the contraception mandate but there should be a religious employer exemption that is broader than the one they proposed.”

Kaine, who is Catholic, has spoken frequently about the importance of faith throughout his career. He has cited it in discussing his opposition to the death penalty and his position on abortion. Kaine says he is personally opposed to abortion and has supported some restrictions, but he does not believe Roe v. Wade should be overturned.

Remember, this is a guy who was handpicked by Obama to lead the DNC in 2009 who’s now inching away from him. Bob Casey, another pro-life Catholic Democrat from a swing state (Pennsylvania), also called on O today to rescind the rule for groups with faith missions. Can’t wait to hear from other vulnerable Dems like Jon Tester as the battle is joined, just like I can’t wait to hear how lifelike talking-points robot Debbie Wasserman-Schultz ends up finessing her comments here down the road when O does finally start to climb down. Exit question: Who’s going to pay for the employees’ contraception when some of these religiously-affiliated groups end up shutting down in protest, as some Catholic charities have already begun to do vis-a-vis considering gays for adoption?


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so when lakeisha has 6 babies by 5 different fathers and gets mo money wit each chilren, she hates it, right?

right?

GhoulAid on February 8, 2012 at 10:22 PM

That hypothetical “Lakeisha” person is a figment of a larger racial stereotype on black people. I don’t think many “Lakeisha” like that exist in this country.

I don’t think you should assume anything, considering the majority of food stamp-recipients are white.

Aizen on February 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM

If Obama get’s away with this, next he will mandate the Bible be replaced with Dreams from My Father.

Axion on February 8, 2012 at 10:26 PM

I don’t think you should assume anything, considering the majority of food stamp-recipients are white.

Aizen on February 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM

I’m going to go ahead and assume that you are an imbecilic leftist who will distort and lie about anything to advance your destructive agenda.

A pox on your house.

tom daschle concerned on February 8, 2012 at 10:28 PM

If Obama get’s away with this, next he will mandate the Bible be replaced with Dreams from My Father.

Axion on February 8, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Can we sing to it?

If not, I will go to sleep in the pew.
Well….
Unless Reverend Wright is yelling..

Electrongod on February 8, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Oh what a disgrace if such a despised and base man, who hates America and it’s constitution and all Christians, and worships himself, should be allowed to assault a people which has the faith of omnipotent God! With what reproaches will the Lord overwhelm us if we do not promptly and fully aid those who’s conscience is being brutalized and murdered because they profess the Roman Catholic religion! Let those who have been accustomed unjustly to wage private warfare against other of the faithful now all unite and go against the tyrant in a Holy Crusade and end with total victory in November!

Let those who have been in service of this tyrant against their own brothers and sisters now fight in a proper way against this tryant. Let those who have been wearing themselves out in both body and soul in vain attempt to appease him now labor for glorious honor against him. Behold! On the one side will be the completely destroyed tyrant, on the other the fierce and righteous protectors of the Constitution and Christianity. On the one side will be the destroyed enemy of the Lord, on the other, his friends who will shout at the tyrant as they destroy him in November, “It is the will of the Founding Fathers!”, “It is the will of the Founding Fathers!, and “It is the will of God! It is the will of God!”

RasThavas on February 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM

They only “need” it when they can’t support themselves, because there’s almost no way to do that in Obamaland. In Obamaland, getting a job is hard to do, so one must sell their soul to the government in order to survive.

But I hate it when people just assume that blacks or whoever enjoy living of the government. Most Americans love their freedom and independence!

Aizen on February 8, 2012 at 10:18 PM

There was much anticipation of free stuff even before Obama was “on the job”. Who was going to provide free gas and free kitchens?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM

If Obama get’s away with this, next he will mandate the Bible be replaced with Dreams from My Father.

Axion on February 8, 2012 at 10:26 PM

One contains parables and references to the Holy Ghost.

The other contains fiction and was ghost-written.

Maybe li’l barry doesn’t see the difference?

Tim_CA on February 8, 2012 at 10:30 PM

I don’t think you should assume anything, considering the majority of food stamp-recipients are white.

Aizen on February 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM

How about percentages?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:31 PM

http://news.investors.com/PhotoPopup.aspx?id=595721

Bmore on February 8, 2012 at 10:06 PM

…the last one’s the best one!
PS-I don’t bother with them…can’t fix stupid…don’t have time like you and some others do. I just snipe, nothingness.
ot
(Red Wings just won 18 in a row at home! 2 more for NHL record.)

KOOLAID2 on February 8, 2012 at 10:32 PM

If Obama get’s away with this, next he will mandate the Bible be replaced with Dreams from My Father.

Axion on February 8, 2012 at 10:26 PM

Maybe “Dreams from my Heavenly Father”?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:32 PM

It’s Morning After in America!

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:33 PM

I don’t think any religious hospitals or service providers will close if this rule is not changed. There have already been legal challenges filed and I think this is all a big charade because the political guys know it will be overturned. This will also suit their purposes because it will give them another reason to trash the Supreme Court.

rockmom on February 8, 2012 at 10:33 PM

America’s idiocy is coming home to roost.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:33 PM

I don’t think you should assume anything, considering the majority of food stamp-recipients are white.

Aizen on February 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM

i also assume that obama is a closet muslim. i’ll “assume” anything i want to.

GhoulAid on February 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Simple solution:

Fire all your female employees.

That doesn’t work?

Don’t hire any female employees.

Dack Thrombosis on February 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM

“The power to decide whether or not to use contraception lies with a woman – not her boss,” said Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y. “What is more intrusive than trying to allow an employer to make medical decisions for someone who works for them?”

And here I thought the debate was about making the employer pay for the contraception. The employee doesn’t lose the right to use contraceptives because employer-provided insurance doesn’t pay for it directly.

Could it be that liberals are playing fast and loose with the truth?

tom on February 8, 2012 at 10:34 PM

The GOP bigwigs are twirling their mustaches and petting their white cats tonight. They can now run attack ads with ObamaCare, pro-abortion and anti-religion IN THE SAME SENTENCE.

Adios, enthusiasm gap.

Chuck Schick on February 8, 2012 at 10:35 PM

If you’ll remember the one bill Obama demonstrated any true passion for during his tenure at the Illinois State Legislature involved abortion. Infanticide really, but who’s keeping score.

sandbagger on February 8, 2012 at 10:35 PM

And people made fun of Perry saying Obama was waging a war on religion.

Hmmmm.

gophergirl on February 8, 2012 at 10:00 PM

Imagine that!

KOOLAID2 on February 8, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Why, look, Allah: here’s a close-up photo of Obama that you could use that doesn’t frighten puppies and small children… I’ll bet you could license the rights for a song, maybe even for nothing.

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:37 PM

I hope the next president mandates employers pay for once-a-month oral sex. Employees don’t have to take advantage of it, but it’s there if they need it.

If employers refuse to pay for it, they are making medical decisions regarding their employees’ mental health.

For liberal states, they can have an exemption if they substitute child sex.

jaime on February 8, 2012 at 10:38 PM

America’s idiocy is coming home to roost.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Did you sell all your hotdogs already? It’s only 10:30!

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Oh, NOW some Dems and Libs are questioning this?

Kind of like complaining about your church ordaining homosexual ministers. By the time you’ve gotten to that point you had ceased being a church a long time ago.

I’m just saying.

Cleombrotus on February 8, 2012 at 10:39 PM

The GOP bigwigs are twirling their mustaches and petting their white cats tonight. They can now run attack ads with ObamaCare, pro-abortion and anti-religion IN THE SAME SENTENCE.

Adios, enthusiasm gap.

Chuck Schick on February 8, 2012 at 10:35 PM

Oh ho ho ho… excellent point! I’ll be looking forward to it!

Mr. Prodigy on February 8, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Why must you peddle the same racial, stereotypical crap that Newt spreads?

What’s Newt got to do with it ? Black race pimps peddle these sterotypes. How do you think Dems and Jackson and Sharpton will react if food-stamps and welfare are stopped by the government?
What will they say ?

Stop assuming that black people don’t want to work, or that they just want freebies from the government.

If that’s true, they wouldn’t vote as a block, for the party of KKK and Jim Crow. But they do and will continue to do so.

You might not know this, but there’s a lot of people who would turn down taxpayer-funded freebies, and black people fall into that category, as well.

So what %age of black people are on welfare and food-stamps for more than ONE generation ?

I’m so sick of this BS, that black people are “demanding” food stamps and such.

If they are not , why don’t they tell their leaders that and vote for a party which wants everyone to have a paycheck regardless of their skin color ?

You ever think that ALL races of people NEED certain programs because they can’t find a damn job, because this economy is still in freaking shambles, despite what Dear Leader says!!!???

Aizen on February 8, 2012 at 10:12 PM

So who voted almost 98% as a voting block for the Dear Liar ?
Before you jump to any conclusions about my thought process, let me state that i’ll stand out among the buildings of Santorini

burrata on February 8, 2012 at 10:39 PM

Did you sell all your hotdogs already? It’s only 10:30!

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:38 PM

These days I peddle condoms near catholic churches. The business is going gangbusters!

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:40 PM

“As a Catholic based organization, we feel for the plight of those Americans who are over the age of 50 and cannot find work. The economic problems in the country have hit females over the age of 50 especially hard. Therefore, we’re immediately instituting a policy where we will only hire female employees over the age of 50. We feel it’s the right thing to do.”

Tee hee.

Dack Thrombosis on February 8, 2012 at 10:40 PM

“3. Hispanics won’t abandon him because he is promising them even more free stuff and amnesty too”

Well, I know a little bit about the more rural Hispanics in California and most of them don’t want “free” stuff. They are actually quite proud of their work ethic and have every right to be proud of it. Outside of the barrios of the major cities, Hispanics are extremely hard working, church going people. Their religion means more than politics to them. Besides, the vast majority of Hispanic origin are here legally. Most were born here. And many of them haven’t forgotten that it was Ronald Reagan that gave their grandparents amnesty and allowed them to settle here. The sphere of influence that the Democrats have is going to shrink even more into only the most urbanized centers of the country where the per capita production is lowest and you have the largest portion of the population relying on “free” stuff.

crosspatch on February 8, 2012 at 10:40 PM

KOOLAID2 on February 8, 2012 at 10:32 PM

You know I always forget you’re a yankee.

Bmore on February 8, 2012 at 10:40 PM

He’ll issue an executive order. The media will never mention it again. Then, if he’s re-elected, it gets ripped up along with the abortion funding executive order.

djaymick on February 8, 2012 at 10:41 PM

These days I peddle condoms near catholic churches. The business is going gangbusters!

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Niiiice. I’d like to see how you’ve fixed up the cart for that enterprise. I’ll bet you got really creative. You ought to try lurking near some of the homes for the retired religious, too, you know, shake things up a bit.

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:41 PM

“The power to decide whether or not to use contraception lies with a woman – not her boss,” said Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y. “What is more intrusive than trying to allow an employer to make medical decisions for someone who works for them?”

But, the government can interfere with my decisions concerning how I pay for those “medical decisions.”

It can tell me that I can’t have only a major medical. It can tell me that I have to carry sex change coverage even though I haven’t a RuPaul bone in my body.

Until the bloody government gets out of my body, my bedroom, my refrigerator, my appliances, my electronics, my car, my power, my drugs, my contracts, my business, my financial transactions, my trades, my vitamins, my vaccinations, my future children’s curriculum at their private schools, my wallet, etc., then all that I have to say is — to paraphrase the august Maxine Waters — THE DEMOCRATS CAN GO STRAIGHT TO HELL!

Senator Gilibrand, I am a woman. There is a word for women like you. I would say it, but Allahpundit and Ed finally gave me a key to the magic kingdom recently after years of trying and I don’t want to muck it up. The world doesn’t revolve around abortion and birth control pills. Stay out of our lives, hypocrite.

Resist We Much on February 8, 2012 at 10:42 PM

No surprise. I predicted Obama would double down. I am Catholic, but I appreciate Obama doubling down, he is only waking up more and more Catholics to VOTE against him. Which will really hurt him in November.

Raquel Pinkbullet on February 8, 2012 at 10:42 PM

malclave on February 8, 2012 at 9:53 PM
(Dammit….now I want bacon.)
Tim_CA on February 8, 2012 at 10:09 PM

I just took 6 pieces of bacon I put in between two paper towels, out of the microwave…put in more than 1/2 hour ago, after the third mention.
*share*

KOOLAID2 on February 8, 2012 at 10:43 PM

“The power to decide whether or not to use contraception lies with a woman – not her boss,” said Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y. “What is more intrusive than trying to allow an employer to make medical decisions for someone who works for them?”

Kirsten Gillibrand was one of those pro-life “blue dog democrats.”

Raquel Pinkbullet on February 8, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Niiiice. I’d like to see how you’ve fixed up the cart for that enterprise. I’ll bet you got really creative. You ought to try lurking near some of the homes for the retired religious, too, you know, shake things up a bit.

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Those retirees don’t buy too many condoms. I usually just peddle fake cialis, tell them all about that side effect they keep warning about, man their eyes just light up!

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Resist We Much on February 8, 2012 at 10:42 PM

I LOVE your name. . . MUCH!

DrStock on February 8, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Kirsten Gillibrand was one of those pro-life “blue dog democrats.”

Raquel Pinkbullet on February 8, 2012 at 10:44 PM

These blue dogs are just rats, same as the rest of them.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Watching this with complete fascination. Next to Obamacare, this has to qualify as the most needlesly self destructive thing he has done. Imagine how much of his agenda he could have accomplished if only he had waited until his second term to do healthcare. So he waits until his last year to declare war on the Catholics. Good for him! I hope this fight consumes him for the next ten months.

Tomolena1 on February 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Healing, Hope, Change, just words…masking the true evil that embodies Obama and the “Democrats”. The blood will run deep, the sacrifices embraced as we retake America from the enemies we allowed, we accepted, we elected. It is all or nothing, soon to be kill or be killed. $uck it up troopers, freedom is an expensive reality!

dmann on February 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Those retirees don’t buy too many condoms. I usually just peddle fake cialis, tell them all about that side effect they keep warning about, man their eyes just light up!

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:44 PM

The retirees won’t buy them for themselves, but you can force them to use their very small pensions to buy them for their caretakers. That would add a certain piquancy to the whole transaction, no? And, okay, I’ll bite, so to speak: what side effect?

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Watching this with complete fascination. Next to Obamacare, this has to qualify as the most needlesly self destructive thing he has done. Imagine how much of his agenda he could have accomplished if only he had waited until his second term to do healthcare. So he waits until his last year to declare war on the Catholics. Good for him! I hope this fight consumes him for the next ten months.

Tomolena1 on February 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM

America may be saved by Obama’s incompetence yet.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM

I don’t think any religious hospitals or service providers will close if this rule is not changed. There have already been legal challenges filed and I think this is all a big charade because the political guys know it will be overturned.

I don’t think it will be overturned. Since when did the government carve out exemptions for organizations based on their religious beliefs? All employers have to treat their employees in accordance with the law, including fair labor laws, minimum wage laws, et al. A Muslim organization can’t refuse to provide safe working conditions because of clause in the Koran.

Anyway, nothing about this regulation forces Catholics to use contraceptives,so it doesn’t even infringe upon freedom of religious. This issue is a red herring that some politicians are manipulating for their own gain. Most Catholics in the US have no problem with birth control and many, many Catholic hospitals and other institutions already include birth control in their employee’s health plans.

bayam on February 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM

What if Obama invades Syria to deliver free contraceptives?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:48 PM

That hypothetical “Lakeisha” person is a figment of a larger racial stereotype on black people. I don’t think many “Lakeisha” like that exist in this country.

I don’t think you should assume anything, considering the majority of food stamp-recipients are white.

Aizen on February 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Do you really want to go there? Want to talk about the illegitimacy rate among black couples? In fact let’s talk about percentages of racial groups using assistance programs instead of total numbers. In a group of one hundred people—80 purple and 20 yellow, 30 of the purple and 10 of the yellow are getting programs can you see a problem?

arnold ziffel on February 8, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Sabellius will be resigning shortly,so Herod(Obama) can be absolved of any blame. He will wash his hands of the matter,by offering up a sacrificial black sheep. He will replace her with someone who is relatively unknown, but will be equally poisonous, perhaps a Catholic for the News Op. Some Bishops will fluff their feathers as they proudly, but in professed humility, demonstrate their supposed influence and accept the cosmetic changes that will be put in place(like Stupak’s Presidential Order). They will gratefully praise Obama for the change, offering him a de facto political endorsement and Photo Op.Expect this to come to a TV screen near you shortly.

K Michael ODonovan on February 8, 2012 at 10:48 PM

KOOLAID2 on February 8, 2012 at 10:43 PM

dammit!!

Bacon Run.

Tim_CA on February 8, 2012 at 10:48 PM

What if Obama invades Syria to deliver free contraceptives?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:48 PM

LOL You are being very silly!

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:50 PM

What if Obama invades Syria to deliver free contraceptives?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:48 PM

I don’t want to sound racist, but if the US and Israel acted in its self interest, it would make birth control free to every Arab in the world. Then again, I’m going to get flamed by the anti-birth control nuts so I’d better just shut up.

bayam on February 8, 2012 at 10:50 PM

LOL You are being very silly!

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Aha, you learned that word from what’s-his-name from yesterday who is no longer with us?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Pelosi: It’s a good bill.

yhxqqsn on February 8, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Bayam, you’re thicker than normal. This forces religious organizations to pay for contraception and abortion pills. You honestly don’t understand their issue with this?

Chuck Schick on February 8, 2012 at 10:53 PM

I don’t think it will be overturned. Since when did the government carve out exemptions for organizations based on their religious beliefs? All employers have to treat their employees in accordance with the law, including fair labor laws, minimum wage laws, et al. A Muslim organization can’t refuse to provide safe working conditions because of clause in the Koran.

Anyway, nothing about this regulation forces Catholics to use contraceptives,so it doesn’t even infringe upon freedom of religious. This issue is a red herring that some politicians are manipulating for their own gain. Most Catholics in the US have no problem with birth control and many, many Catholic hospitals and other institutions already include birth control in their employee’s health plans.

bayam on February 8, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Let’s deny reality in three words or less.

Anyway, nothing about this regulation forces Catholics to use contraceptives,so it doesn’t even infringe upon freedom of religious.

This is so stupid I’ll just link this.

You will make a fine commissar, see you in the gulag, comrade.

tom daschle concerned on February 8, 2012 at 10:54 PM

The Obama administration has made a tactical error on this issue. They thought they could play this as though the Republicans were against contraception. The majority of the American people are a lot more religious than Democrats give them credit for, and they’re not that stupid. They are going to recognize the tyranny here. It’s going to destroy the Democrats in November.

I’m very, very pleased.

philwynk on February 8, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Aha, you learned that word from what’s-his-name from yesterday who is no longer with us?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Oops. I forgot them thar’s fightin’ words. Yes. I was thinking about all that and I’ve figured out the problem.

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:54 PM

I don’t want to sound racist, but if the US and Israel acted in its self interest, it would make birth control free to every Arab in the world. Then again, I’m going to get flamed by the anti-birth control nuts so I’d better just shut up.

bayam on February 8, 2012 at 10:50 PM

They should have started early and perhaps some other places, like say Hawaii and Kenya in the ’60s. Problem solved.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:54 PM

too many links in my comment…bah!

tom daschle concerned on February 8, 2012 at 10:54 PM

I don’t want to sound racist, but if the US and Israel acted in its self interest, it would make birth control free to every Arab in the world. Then again, I’m going to get flamed by the anti-birth control nuts so I’d better just shut up.

bayam on February 8, 2012 at 10:50 PM

I’m more a fan of the forced conversion, myself.

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Oops. I forgot them thar’s fightin’ words. Yes. I was thinking about all that and I’ve figured out the problem.

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:54 PM

He was drunk?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:55 PM

bayam on February 8, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Strap in, it’s going to be a rough ride!

dmann on February 8, 2012 at 10:55 PM

They should have started early and perhaps some other places, like say Hawaii and Kenya in the ’60s. Problem solved.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:54 PM

heh.

I see what you did there you little scamp!

Tim_CA on February 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Strap in, it’s going to be a rough ride!

dmann on February 8, 2012 at 10:55 PM

But the contraception is free!

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM

He was drunk?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Okay, she did mention a couple of times that she was, in fact, a she. So there’s that. You need to start incorporating adorable emoticons in your comments. For example, when you said that you were only getting her back for calling you silly, if you had added a delightful ;-) (sly winky guy) to the end of your comment, she would have known that you were only joking around. You should try it; I find it to be very helpful and not the slightest bit emasculating.

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:59 PM

This contraception issue is the thin edge of the wedge folks. The real push will be to get Catholic hospitals and professionals to do abortions. Mark my words, it’s coming.

slickwillie2001 on February 8, 2012 at 10:59 PM

Okay, she did mention a couple of times that she was, in fact, a she. So there’s that. You need to start incorporating adorable emoticons in your comments. For example, when you said that you were only getting her back for calling you silly, if you had added a delightful ;-) (sly winky guy) to the end of your comment, she would have known that you were only joking around. You should try it; I find it to be very helpful and not the slightest bit emasculating.

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 10:59 PM

I think it would have been more helpful if I knew “he” was a “she”.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:00 PM

It’s as if HHS’s supporters don’t understand the core objection to the policy.

Allah

This will come as something of a shock, Big A, but of course they don’t…they’re stupid and more than a little crazy on account of their abortion-lust.

Jaibones on February 8, 2012 at 11:00 PM

heh.

I see what you did there you little scamp!

Tim_CA on February 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Widespread use of contraception can accomplish incredible things!

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:01 PM

I think it would have been more helpful if I knew “he” was a “she”.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:00 PM

Well, she kept stressing that she was a b*tch, not a d*ck. Maybe you missed that. Now, try a little smiley face. C’mon, let’s see it!

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Well, she kept stressing that she was a b*tch, not a d*ck. Maybe you missed that. Now, try a little smiley face. C’mon, let’s see it!

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:01 PM

:( is that it???

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Widespread use of contraception can accomplish incredible things!

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:01 PM

Are you trying to be provocative? >:-( (frowny guy no like)

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 10:57 PM

Butt…for most of the “libs” contraception isn’t biologically possible…….ouch!

dmann on February 8, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Are you trying to be provocative? >:-( (frowny guy no like)

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Provocative, moi? Just being SILLY!

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Butt…for most of the “libs” contraception isn’t biologically possible…….ouch!

dmann on February 8, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Well SOMEHOW they’ve bred like rabbits.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:04 PM

I don’t think you should assume anything, considering the majority of food stamp-recipients are white.

Aizen on February 8, 2012 at 10:25 PM

Two things wrong with using that stat. First use of food stamps is not indicative of welfare or a family. Many elderly and disabled singles receive food stamps. TANF is a better indicator of families on welfare. And while Blacks make up 12% of the population they are almost equal in numbers to the whites who are on TANF. So a higher percentage of Blacks are on welfare than the percentage of Whites. Try again.

Deanna on February 8, 2012 at 11:05 PM

@slickwillie The real end game is removing the tax exemption from all churches that oppose abortion and same sex marriage, and then making preaching from the Bible a hate crime.

rockmom on February 8, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Provocative, moi? Just being SILLY!

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:03 PM

Maybe you’re drunk. I know how you Russkies enjoy your Wodka. Speaking of which, I believe my tea is ready! Excuse me for a moment. S:-0 (She’s wearing a charming hat and looking for her teacup!)

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Right. So, the House will pass some sort of wrist slap for HHS, then it will go to the Senate where dingy harry will perch on it ad infinitum, and it will finally wind up with the rest of the OdumboCare fiasco: at the Supreme Court.

(Sounds like a bunch of rich idiots goin’ through the same ol’ motions to me.) (Can you say 10% approval, idiots?)

RedCrow on February 8, 2012 at 11:06 PM

” just like I can’t wait to hear how lifelike talking-points robot Debbie Wasserman-Schultz ends up finessing her comments here down the road when O does finally start to climb down.”

Been reading on this topic for a while tonight. That line made me laugh out loud!! Independents are tremoring so the climb down is simply a matter of when, where, & which outlets after MSNBC get Axelrod & the robot telling us how stupid we all are for assuming the O was insensitive & unwilling to compromise with Catholics. You wanna bet it goes something like this….. O is ready to work for all Americans and he’s always willing to compromise to move this country forward. Now how bout that sit on your lame ass do nothing Congress who keeps blocking super O……

drivingtheview on February 8, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Maybe you’re drunk. I know how you Russkies enjoy your Wodka. Speaking of which, I believe my tea is ready! Excuse me for a moment. S:-0 (She’s wearing a charming hat and looking for her teacup!)

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:05 PM

We call it “chai” just like the New Agers.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:07 PM

We call it “chai” just like the New Agers.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:07 PM

Hmmmm. I just can’t get a read on how you meant that…If only there were some way — some indicator — that could show me if you were saying that in an angry way or a happy way…

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:09 PM

I don’t want to sound racist, but if the US and Israel acted in its self interest, it would make birth control free to every Arab in the world.

bayam on February 8, 2012 at 10:50 PM

According to anecdotal but massive evidence, Israeli Arabs refuse to use condoms even more steadfastly than they resist “occupation”.

On a separate issue, residual radiation is a great contraceptive. Just sayin’.

Archivarix on February 8, 2012 at 11:10 PM

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:04 PM

No breading involved……just continued failures to launch. Procreation requires effort and courage, not indifferent acceptance coupled with manufactured moral equivalency.

dmann on February 8, 2012 at 11:11 PM

I read some Reuters article about Boehner’s statement. The comments are enlightening.

‘the church wants to run our lives and take us back to the dark ages and crusades, women have a right … let them control their perverted priests before they try to control us … 98% of catholics use birth control … ‘ bla bla bla.

Either they really are that stupid, or they think that spin will work because Americans are that stupid. Sometimes I think Americans ARE that stupid, after all we elected Ø.

The notion that citizens might have some higher Authority than them really twists their knickers.

jodetoad on February 8, 2012 at 11:13 PM

jodetoad on February 8, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Time to thin the herd……………

dmann on February 8, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Procreation requires effort and courage, not indifferent acceptance coupled with manufactured moral equivalency.

dmann on February 8, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Wait? What?

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:15 PM

The GOP’ers in Congress won’t even stand up to Barack when he blatantly gives them the finger re: “recess appointment” when Congress is NOT in recess. I’m not holding my breath for Boehner to do anything.

SouthernGent on February 8, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Hmmmm. I just can’t get a read on how you meant that…If only there were some way — some indicator — that could show me if you were saying that in an angry way or a happy way…

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:09 PM

Man, you are one controlling woman! :( :) :-) :<)

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:16 PM

No breading involved……just continued failures to launch. Procreation requires effort and courage, not indifferent acceptance coupled with manufactured moral equivalency.

dmann on February 8, 2012 at 11:11 PM

But where do they all come from, enough to vote in the Won?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:17 PM

The GOP’ers in Congress won’t even stand up to Barack when he blatantly gives them the finger re: “recess appointment” when Congress is NOT in recess. I’m not holding my breath for Boehner to do anything.

SouthernGent on February 8, 2012 at 11:16 PM

They will, because it’s a winning issue. Recess appointment is an arcane governmental procedure that a fraction of the general population understand. This time, it’s different. It’s about sex. Everyone knows about it, and everyone deems him- or herself a prime expert, or at least actively (or passively) involved.

Archivarix on February 8, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Man, you are one controlling woman! :( :) :-) :<)
Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:16 PM

LOL I like the little emoticon gymnastics! Faster, darn you, faster!

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:21 PM

I hope the next president mandates employers pay for once-a-month oral sex. Employees don’t have to take advantage of it, but it’s there if they need it.

If employers refuse to pay for it, they are making medical decisions regarding their employees’ mental health.

For liberal states, they can have an exemption if they substitute child sex.

jaime on February 8, 2012 at 10:38 PM

You KNOW Nancy The Heretic from San Fransisco will enthusiastically support it. Because, you know, it fits in perfectly with her “Catholic” faith.

Myron Falwell on February 8, 2012 at 11:21 PM

No breading involved……just continued failures to launch.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:17 PM

It’s a cookbook!

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:22 PM

I still don’t understand why libs continue to point to this one year exemption before compliance as their “compromise”. By their logic, Dems are giving religiously affiliated institutions time to come to grips with their inevitable violation of their morals. What do phase-ins have to do with fundamental rights protected by the First Amendment?

blammm on February 8, 2012 at 11:22 PM

LOL I like the little emoticon gymnastics! Faster, darn you, faster!

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:21 PM

I thought those are words reserved for you husband?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Please Vlad, its gutless moralists that can not compete successfully based on ability alone. This all was started by wealthy parents that did not want to see little JR or MISSY getting their butts kicked in the real world….. because they themselves were afraid to be parents……

dmann on February 8, 2012 at 11:26 PM

If the Church stands fast on this, as they must, I expect the Obama admin to go full tilt in a PR war highlighting the pedophilia scandals and using the DoJ to bring RICO actions against the Church.They will count on the repulsive nature of the abuse cases to separate the Church from any potential allies. Then having destroyed the American Catholic Church they will expect the conservative (religious not political) and evangelical denominations to fall in line. And they will because the media will convince the public that the war on religion is just. Hey guess who did the same thing, right down to accusations of sexual abuse, to destroy the Catholic Church and later Protestant Chuches and keep them impotent as a obstacle to his designs for his country?

xkaydet65 on February 8, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Procreation requires effort and courage, not indifferent acceptance coupled with manufactured moral equivalency.

dmann on February 8, 2012 at 11:11 PM

Procreation for the wife and I involved dinner at Black Angus and a romp in the Hot-Tub…..but hey – whatever blows your hair back!

Tim_CA on February 8, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Please Vlad, its gutless moralists that can not compete successfully based on ability alone. This all was started by wealthy parents that did not want to see little JR or MISSY getting their butts kicked in the real world….. because they themselves were afraid to be parents……

dmann on February 8, 2012 at 11:26 PM

But they’ve held power on and off for over 50 years, and totally within Universities for close to 100. Of course now they are importing illegals because they are not multiplying fast enough.

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:27 PM

I thought those are words reserved for you husband?

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:23 PM

We’ve been together for a very long time; no such instruction is necessary. Besides we mostly do weight training together these days, he’s hurt his knee.

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:28 PM

We’ve been together for a very long time; no such instruction is necessary. Besides we mostly do weight training together these days, he’s hurt his knee.

cynccook on February 8, 2012 at 11:28 PM

I’m sorry to hear that. Hope it works! :):):):::::::::::::::)))))))))))))))))))))

Igor R. on February 8, 2012 at 11:29 PM

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