So where is the parade for our Iraq vets?

posted at 3:05 pm on February 7, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

The New York Jersey Giants returned from their Super Bowl victory to a planned hero’s welcome in the Big Apple, complete with ticker tape, open top convertibles, keys to the city and all the trimmings. They should be justifiably proud of their accomplishment, and their fans deserve a quick victory lap to mark the occasion. But, as Doug Mataconis notes over at Outside the Beltway, isn’t there another parade which we’re still waiting for? He’s making reference to an article by Kate Taylor.

At least one large city, St. Louis, has gone ahead with a parade for Iraq veterans, on Jan. 28. And on Monday, the White House announced that President Obama and the first lady, Michelle Obama, would hold a dinner on Feb. 29 to honor troops who had served in Iraq.

But the Defense Department, noting that American soldiers are still fighting in Afghanistan, says it is too soon for a celebration with the recognition and symbolism of a New York City parade.

Col. David Lapan, a spokesman for Gen. Martin E. Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, said, “We simply don’t think a national-level parade is appropriate while we continue to have America’s sons and daughters in harm’s way.”

Mataconis responds:

The Pentagon’s position doesn’t really make sense. Iraq and Afghanistan are, after all, separate conflicts fought in separate countries for very different reasons. While there’s no small degree of overlap between veterans of the two conflicts, it seems somewhat silly to say that veterans from the Iraq War shouldn’t be honored until the conflict in Afghanistan is over, or as long as American troops are “in harm’s way,” which seems pretty darn open ended to me.

That’s certainly not the way we’ve handled these things in the past. When the V-E Day came in May 1945, the nation didn’t wait to celebrate that achievement until V-J Day had come three months later (and few people had reason to know that the end of the war in the Pacific Theater might be that near at the time). In fact, on June 10th, 1945, just a month after the end of the conflict in Europe, New York City held a ticker-tape parade for General Dwight D. Eisenhower while the conflict in the Pacific still raged.

For starters, this makes sense. Yes, we are still in Afghanistan, (and in Iraq, depending upon who you ask and how you define “in” I suppose) but is there ever really a bad time to honor returning heroes? Perhaps more to the point, if you are honoring their service and sacrifice more than some deadline date for “victory” (define that as you wish) then there’s no reason such a national celebration couldn’t celebrate the accomplishments of our veterans of Afghanistan at the same time.

Further, given the current system of rotating duty assignments, many of the veterans coming home have already served in both conflicts anyway, so the lines are fairly blurred. If it’s a question of funding, the lion’s share of this will be put up at the city, state and local level anyway. Besides, in a time when so many are feeling rather glum about the state of the nation and its future, everyone could use a reason to feel good and this might be just the ticket. Honestly, I don’t know why there is even an argument about this.


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It will be racist … we can’t do that.

#becauseofjazzracistscreamonad

Sams88 on February 7, 2012 at 3:08 PM

So PBHO and Mooch are going to have a dinner, huh? With what, maybe a 100 or so hand-picked soldiers in the crowd who have just the right mix of gender and ethnicity?

Bishop on February 7, 2012 at 3:08 PM

It’s simple. The American people respect those who play in the Super Bowl more than they respect those who serve in the armed forces.

Shump on February 7, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Like the sharia financier Bloomdoom will hold a parade for those fighting against moozies !!

burrata on February 7, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Only if they’re gay.

NoDonkey on February 7, 2012 at 3:10 PM

The New York Jersey York Giants

Fixed it for you.

Red Cloud on February 7, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Absolutely pathetic and disgusting that our troops are not being given the utmost respect and admiration for their sacrifice and bravery.

Regardless of political affiliation…these men and women put their lives on the line daily when called upon.

National recognition should be a given…..

Baxter Greene on February 7, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Let’s face it, Iraq and Afghanistan are just two fronts in one big war against militant Islam.

I have great admiration for the veterans, but I have some sympathy for the argument that this is like spiking the ball on the 50 yard line.

cool breeze on February 7, 2012 at 3:13 PM

And on Monday, the White House announced that President Obama and the first lady, Michelle Obama, would hold a dinner on Feb. 29 to honor troops who had served in Iraq.

After the dinner, there’ll be a special screening of “Redacted” followed by a live concert by MIA

burrata on February 7, 2012 at 3:14 PM

No more parades!
Golf course summitt’s!

KOOLAID2 on February 7, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Well now, let’s get real . . . professional football players sacrifice their egos, reputations and multimillion dollar paychecks, whereas our soldiers sacrifice only their mortal lives for their country and a pittance. Of course those becoming filthy rich playing a child’s game should be honored by a parade. My goodness, was there ever any doubt?

rplat on February 7, 2012 at 3:16 PM

burrata on February 7, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Bill Ayers will be the guest speaker, he’ll have a nice U.S. flag to stand on while giving his speech.

Bishop on February 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Knowing how teh gheys love a parade…

… you would think the “Don’t Ask/Don’t Tell” group would be in a tizzy!

/

Seven Percent Solution on February 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM

I wonder what the WMD float will look like.

KeninCT on February 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM

It was in St. Louis.

dczombie on February 7, 2012 at 3:21 PM

How about a welcome home parade for the 10th Mountain Division which is from Fort Drum, New York?

Or a Veteran’s Day parade for the New York, New Jersey, New England reservists activated and sent to Iraq and Afghanistan?

No way. Bloomburg has no time. He is working on the mosque near ground zero and taking care of the Occupy Wall Street scum.

slp on February 7, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Let’s be fair this is what corporations and the progressive ruling class, think the public can be distracted with.

The Media doesn’t really reflect American Life back to us. It’s just a distorted corporate tool used to distract and deflect attention away from their bad behavior.

Laura Ingraham called Mitt Romney a turn around guy…so now the United States of America is a corporation that we need to elect a CEO to fix. It’s pretty easy to see how they view the world we aren’t citizens of the united states we are “workers”. Well this parade is to distract those workers from not having jobs.

Dr Evil on February 7, 2012 at 3:31 PM

Yeah like that anti gun nut Bloomberg is going to allow a bunch of guys in uniform who might be carrying weapons to march down the streets of NY in direct violation of all their silly laws.

Just A Grunt on February 7, 2012 at 3:31 PM

What was accomplished?

Iraq is now an ally of Iran instead of an enemy.
Two-thirds of a million Christians have been ethnically cleansed from Iraq.
Islamic law is now in Iraq’s constitution.
Thousand of lives and limbs and over a trillion dollars, that we don’t have, has been shot down a rat hole.
A few more ‘victories’ like this and we will be done in.

VorDaj on February 7, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Bill Ayers will be the guest speaker, he’ll have a nice U.S. flag to stand on while giving his speech.

Bishop on February 7, 2012 at 3:17 PM

The dinner will start with a moment of silence for John Murtha, followed by awarding of a Purple Heart to John Kerry for injuries he received a few weeks ago while playing hockey !
Then everyone will sit down to a halal dinner since there will be a few muslim soldiers in the bunch, together with atleast one from the following groups :
Black male
Black female
Asian male
Asian female
Muslim male
Latino male
Latino female
Gay
Lesb
Injured male
Injured female
A medic

burrata on February 7, 2012 at 3:32 PM

What NY does is their business. Stay the heck out of it

liberal4life on February 7, 2012 at 3:35 PM

rplat on February 7, 2012 at 3:16 PM

This is not an NFL vs. the military issue.

Of course New York should have a parade for the Giants. One of the things that got me through long deployments, was thinking about and trying to get news about my sports teams. It’s a little bit of home.

If New York doesn’t want a parade for the troops, then screw them. Having participated in these dog and pony shows, all the troops aren’t exactly thrilled by them either, especially since it takes us away from our families for a few MORE days.

NoDonkey on February 7, 2012 at 3:39 PM

How about the idea that the parade could be a morale booster for the troops still out there–everywhere else as well as in Afghanistan? Make it an event like viewing the Super Bowl is and allow those who can to watch it while kicking back with a few cold ones of their beverage of choice? And through all the venues of communication we have available today, all troops would eventually have the opportunity to see it. We’ll just have to lockup Bloomie and the rest of the leftistproglibtard nannies while the parade’s going on, and, uh, maybe lose the key during all that partyading.

stukinIL4now on February 7, 2012 at 3:41 PM

In libby town, USA. C’mon, really? Those turds would upchuck their cocktails. Get bent bloomy. He’s got little man syndrome anyway.

msupertas on February 7, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Yes, their heroes from New Jersey.

Ya know they are not going to spend money on a parade and clean up unless you are an OWSer, Minority Group Parade or an Overpaid Athlete. Please, those guys risking their lives or losing life and limb for Freedom or Liberty? Nope, no way…

It’s a perception thingy..

uhangtight on February 7, 2012 at 3:42 PM

New Yorkers throw great parades for conquering troops, look what the did for the British when they won back Brooklyn.

NoDonkey on February 7, 2012 at 3:46 PM

I would rather the Congress declare March 20th a day of national celebration for the coalition victory in Iraq and rememberance for all those who served, allowing each individual state and city to plan their own events.

timbok on February 7, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Where is it written that only NYC can have a parade? For all of you trashing Bloomberg, I ask what your city/mayor are doing. Unless you live in St Louis, you don’t have a leg to stand on.

tmchugh on February 7, 2012 at 3:54 PM

The dinner will start with a moment of silence for John Murtha, followed by awarding of a Purple Heart to John Kerry for injuries he received a few weeks ago while playing hockey !
Then everyone will sit down to a halal dinner since there will be a few muslim soldiers in the bunch, together with atleast one from the following groups :
Black male
Black female
Asian male
Asian female
Muslim male
Latino male
Latino female
Gay
Lesb
Injured male
Injured female
A medic
burrata on February 7, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Of course the pres will call the medic a CORPSEman.

Marcola on February 7, 2012 at 3:57 PM

Don’t you usually have parades when you’ve WON?

Cleombrotus on February 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM

tmchugh on February 7, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Here in San Antonio, we have a parade of Iraq/Afghanistan vets every day.

It’s called the Fort Sam Houston gate.

NoDonkey on February 7, 2012 at 4:08 PM

The New York Jersey York Jersey Giants

Fixed it for you.

Red Cloud on February 7, 2012 at 3:11 PM

FIFY

It’s been 30 years. If NY wanted them they could have built a stadium by now.

TugboatPhil on February 7, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Let’s face it, Iraq and Afghanistan are just two fronts in one big war against militant Islam.

cool breeze on February 7, 2012 at 3:13 PM

We could end the war against militant Islam if we stopped our foreign intervention. It would take a few years but a Paul Presidency would go a long way toward changing our relationship with these so-called axis of evil regimes. We should seek friendship and trade with all nations. That’s the only real way to end this war. Otherwise it’ll be just another war in the long list of impossible to win wars. The drug war, war on poverty, war on the border, war against Islam. They’re all useless crusades that bankrupt the state, hurt the economy, families and lives.

Just as we must stop economic intervention in order to repair the economy we need to stop military intervention to repair our foreign policy!

fatlibertarianinokc on February 7, 2012 at 4:13 PM

We could end the war against militant Islam

And how do we get them to end their war against everyone else?

Cleombrotus on February 7, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Sad but true far more in this country are concerned with the results of the NFL then truly care about our troops. I was against the war in Iraq. Every time I see Bush at a Texas Rangers game it irritates me. The people who send our troops to war never go. The way we currently wage war is a disaster. The purpose of war is to destroy the opposition. If I had the power to wage a war and I was forced to I would use the German WWII model.

kozmo on February 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Absolutely they should have a parade. But let’s wait until spring time, so no one will freeze.

rbj on February 7, 2012 at 4:25 PM

Cleombrotus on February 7, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Ron Paul will bore them to death in a series of speeches.

NoDonkey on February 7, 2012 at 4:30 PM

So where is the parade for our Iraq vets?

posted at 3:05 pm on February 7, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

Would New York be holding a parade for the Giants had the Super Bowl ended in a tie?

Victory parades are for victories; in my opinion, in Iraq and Afghanistan we are looking at a tie or loss :-(

cane_loader on February 7, 2012 at 4:41 PM

NYC has had a Veterans Day Parade every year since 1929.

RedRobin145 on February 7, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Because war is not a game…

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 4:53 PM

fatlibertarianinokc on February 7, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Don’t know much about Islamists do you?

chewydog on February 7, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Rachel Maddow has done extensive reporting on this and has been ripping Bloomberg for it on her show.

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SnarkVader on February 7, 2012 at 5:23 PM

I wonder what the WMD float will look like.

KeninCT on February 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Er, it will be manned by the Idiots whom your Democrats nominated for the Presidency in 2000 and 2004, along with our current Secretary of State, the current Democrat Senate Majority Leader and the former Democrat Speaker of the House. All of whom said in 1998 that Iraq had those weapons.

And don’t forget the Democrat Federal Judge in Lower Manhattan (nominated by Democrat Bill Clinton), who ruled in 2003 that Iraq played a role in the 9/11 attacks.

Thanks for playing!

Del Dolemonte on February 7, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Every time I see Bush at a Texas Rangers game it irritates me.

The people who send our troops to war never go.

kozmo on February 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM

1. Why? Bush is a former owner of that team. And it’s not as if he sent our troops into Iraq without going thru the proper legislative channels. He also did his time in the military, unlike his predecessor.

2. “The people who send out troops” have many times gone to war themselves, or have been in the military, except for Draft Dodger Bill Clinton, who started his own War of Choice in Kosovo without asking Congress or without asking the UN. See also the current “Commander in Chief”, who also never served, who sent us into Libya.

FDR’s son Elliott flew P-38′s in WW2, and JFK’s older brother was killed in a combat mission. Eisenhower’s son John served in WW2 and Korea.

More recently, Democrat Senator Max Baucus lost a nephew in Iraq. In fact, something like 10 members of Congress had familiy members serving in Iraq in 2007.

There are far less of these examples than in earlier wars simply because there are far fewer troops fighting in the current wars.

Del Dolemonte on February 7, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Del Dolemonte on February 7, 2012 at 5:41 PM

If/when Romney wins, will he be allowed to be Commander in Chief or is that just for people who served? Gingrich? Santorum? Cheney??

And define “us” here:

See also the current “Commander in Chief”, who also never served, who sent us into Libya.

The US cut checks and send unmanned drones, but US troops were never in harm’s way. Why not just stick to saying Democrat Party and leave the thinking to others.

tmchugh on February 7, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Don’t worry, we in Missouri already already had ours… we are going for Rick Santorum too… hmmm.. I wonder if there any correlation to that?

Wolftech on February 7, 2012 at 6:03 PM

It was in St. Louis.

dczombie on February 7, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Yes it was.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/metro/thousands-at-parade-honoring-iraq-war-vets/article_cb660e94-786a-5abf-9eb5-6a86c2bc776e.html

tgharris on February 7, 2012 at 6:04 PM

cane_loader on February 7, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Maybe you could have a get together with this person… I hear North Korea is good this time of year.. and take Ron Paul with you…

Wolftech on February 7, 2012 at 6:07 PM

What NY does is their business. Stay the heck out of it

liberal4life on February 7, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Then tell Bloomberg to stay the hell out of Arizona’s business. And every other state he’s stuck his nose into.

chewmeister on February 7, 2012 at 6:12 PM

burrata on February 7, 2012 at 3:32 PM

You forgot a corpseman.

chewmeister on February 7, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Maybe you could have a get together with this person… I hear North Korea is good this time of year.. and take Ron Paul with you…

Wolftech on February 7, 2012 at 6:07 PM

So you’re actually saying we have won in Iraq and Afghanistan?

From everything I see, 0bama threw away both victories.

I don’t appreciate your impugning my character, either.

cane_loader on February 7, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Every time I see Bush at a Texas Rangers game it irritates me. The people who send our troops to war never go.

kozmo on February 7, 2012 at 4:24 PM

You must mean Clinton and Obama, eh?

chewmeister on February 7, 2012 at 6:17 PM

cane_loader on February 7, 2012 at 6:14 PM

No… I am stating SUPPORT THE TROOPS

As far as “impugning your character”… well I can’t do that to something you don’t seem to have…

Wolftech on February 7, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Del Dolemonte on February 7, 2012 at 5:41 PM

If/when Romney wins, will he be allowed to be Commander in Chief or is that just for people who served? Gingrich? Santorum? Cheney??

And define “us” here:

See also the current “Commander in Chief”, who also never served, who sent us into Libya.

The US cut checks and send unmanned drones, but US troops were never in harm’s way. Why not just stick to saying Democrat Party and leave the thinking to others.

tmchugh on February 7, 2012 at 5:51 PM

Axelrod’s not paying you nearly enough.

First of all, our current Democrat “Vice President” didge the draft just as many times as Cheney did (5).

As for Romney, the Mormon Church asked for his deferment.

As for Libya, O’bama did put US troops in harm’s way. At the very beginning when he ordered the US air strikes against Gaddafi.

As for your final ad hominem, Alinsky taught you well.

Not even going to bother to give you a Grade, you’re not worth the time.

Del Dolemonte on February 7, 2012 at 6:33 PM

First of all, our current Democrat “Vice President” dodged the draft just as many times as Cheney did (5).

Del Dolemonte on February 7, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Fixed.

Del Dolemonte on February 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM

A parade commemorating Bush’s Folly sounds like a great idea! They already have a Mission Accomplished banner so it wouldn’t add more to the $1 trillion price tag.

Liberation!

KeninCT on February 7, 2012 at 6:53 PM

They will have a Vietnam/Iraq parade on the same day to save money.

BruceB on February 7, 2012 at 9:09 PM

I wonder what the WMD float will look like.

KeninCT on February 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Dead Kurds?

hawkdriver on February 7, 2012 at 9:23 PM

A parade commemorating Bush’s Folly sounds like a great idea! They already have a Mission Accomplished banner so it wouldn’t add more to the $1 trillion price tag.

Liberation!

KeninCT on February 7, 2012 at 6:53 PM

..if by folly you mean liberating 25 million people,taking out a genocidal madman that killed a million of his own people,responsible for starting two wars,then we defeated Al-qaeda on the world stage, and then provided Iraq with the means to start their own democratic process(which Obama then threw away)…..then yea….mission accomplished.

You need to check with the CBO…Iraq/Afghanistan have cost less than what your boy king Obama spent on his failed stimulus…..

The Iraq war that democrats declared lost was won while Obama has surrendered in the “good war” that he promised to win……

Obama’s legacy will be that the jihadist have gained more ground and power during his Presidency than in any time in modern History.


“smart power”……

Baxter Greene on February 7, 2012 at 9:36 PM

I wonder what the WMD float will look like.

KeninCT on February 7, 2012 at 3:20 PM

..it would have life size replica’s of Bill and Hillary Clinton,Joe Biden,John Kerry,John Edwards,Rockefeller,Pelosi,UN representatives,and most of the worlds intelligence agencies all declaring how dangerous Saddam was and the threat of his WMD program.

….then right behind this float will be the “anti-war” float with liberals from every corner declaring Bush a war criminal for attacking an oil rich country that did not attack us,and posed no imminent threat,…..”no blood for oil”,”War criminal”,and “war is not the answer” signs on one side of the float…..
………….and then on the other side of the float…

…………will be “anti-war” liberals from every corner declaring Obama a genius for attacking an oil rich country that did not attack us and posed no imminent threat……holding “smart power”….”go get’m Sgt. Barack”…..and “war is great as long as none of us die” signs…..

Baxter Greene on February 7, 2012 at 9:47 PM

The US cut checks and send unmanned drones, but US troops were never in harm’s way. Why not just stick to saying Democrat Party and leave the thinking to others.

tmchugh on February 7, 2012 at 5:51 PM

We had over 8,000 troops sent to the Libyan war…
….any time someone is sent to war..they are in harm’s way genius.

…Obama launched a war without Congressional approval….
…….launched a war without Congressional approval after telling this Nation “he would never launch a military strike without Congressional approval” during his 2008 campaign.

…..told this Nation that “regime change is not our mission and would be stupid to pursue”…
….then pursued regime change leaving the leadership to be raped in the streets with a stick……
…..and now leaving Libya to be run by al-qaeda and salafis militias.

……which goes just great with the muslim brotherhood/salafis now running Egypt with Obama’s support.

….has turned Iraq over to Iran and has surrendered in Afghanistan….

The “Hope and Change” administration has been a jihadist dream.

“smart power” indeed.

Baxter Greene on February 7, 2012 at 9:57 PM

As far as “impugning your character”… well I can’t do that to something you don’t seem to have…

Wolftech on February 7, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Kiss it. You came in the door with your bad manners – yes, I’ve seen you be abusive to other posters – and you don’t know a damn thing about me and are drawing a sweeping conclusion based upon an overly broad interpretation of my statement.

cane_loader on February 7, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Baxter Greene on February 7, 2012 at 9:57 PM

Good to see you adding to the debate in force again, Mr. Greene.

hawkdriver on February 8, 2012 at 7:23 AM