Could this be Santorum’s big day?

posted at 9:50 am on February 7, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Today, for the first time this cycle, multiple states hold their Republican presidential nomination contests on one day, two caucuses (Colorado and Minnesota) and one primary (Missouri).  They all have two things in common.  First, none of them are binding, so no delegates will be formally assigned from the vote.  Second, they all represent Rick Santorum’s best shot at changing the trajectory of this race and positioning himself as the conservative alternative to Mitt Romney.  One final series of snap polls from PPP shows Santorum with a double-digit lead in Missouri, and nearly as much of a lead in Minnesota:

Rick Santorum could be headed for a big day in today’s contests in Colorado, Minnesota, and Missouri. Missouri looks like a probable win for Santorum. He’s at 45% there to 32% for Mitt Romney and 19% for Paul. Minnesota provides an opportunity for a win as well. Currently he has a small advantage with 33% to 24% for Romney, 22% for Newt Gingrich, and 20% for Ron Paul. And Santorum should get a second place finish in Colorado, where Romney appears to be the likely winner. The standings there are Romney at 37%, Santorum at 27%, Gingrich at 21%, and Paul at 13%.

Missouri is the big test.  Gingrich chose not to make the ballot in Missouri (a more deliberate choice than the failure of Gingrich and Santorum in Virginia), so this is the dry run of Santorum vs Romney and Paul.  If he does win big in the Show Me State, it gives Santorum an argument for his strength as a conservative candidate more likely to beat Romney in future contests than Gingrich.  A win in Minnesota, where Romney won in 2008, would bolster that argument even more, but a low turnout is expected in Minnesota.  That makes predictions through polling difficult, although a nine-point lead in a widely-split field is better than no lead at all.

For Gingrich, the key is to beat Santorum in the two states in which he’s competing.  The results in Missouri are not terribly relevant to Gingrich, and expect his campaign to spin a Santorum win as an indictment of Romney rather than a boost for Santorum, and they wouldn’t be entirely wrong, either.  Falling to third in either would raise questions about his momentum; falling out of second place in both would be a huge problem for perception of the Gingrich campaign.  In Minnesota, Gingrich is in a virtual tie for second place with Romney and Ron Paul, with just four points separating the three candidates.  In Colorado, Gingrich is six points back of Santorum for second place in the PPP poll, but leads slightly as the second-place choice over Santorum, 25/23.

Gingrich could score a big PR coup by pushing Romney into third place in Minnesota, or he could end up in third or even fourth place himself.  He’s also tied for second in the second-place choice question with Romney at 20% in Minnesota, with Santorum leading with 25% and Paul far behind at 10%.  Based on those numbers, it looks like Santorum has a chance to win it, and Romney and Gingrich will be fighting it out for second place.  In that case, look for the better organization to carry the day, and that won’t be good news for Gingrich.  In Colorado, there is no chance of pushing Romney into third place, but Gingrich could beat Santorum for second.  He has a slight edge in electability over Santorum in both states (+7 in CO, +6 in MN), and in Colorado that might be enough to get last-minute deciders to break his way and push him into second.

On the other hand, last-minute deciders might base their decision on instinct rather than stats, and that would not be good news for Gingrich.  In both states, Gingrich is barely above water on favorability (+8 in CO, +7 in MN), though, while Santorum leads the field substantially (+52 in CO, +57 in MN), with Romney in second (+28 in CO, +7 in MN, tied with Gingrich).  That combined with the other disadvantages of the Gingrich campaign, plus the interesting strategic decision over the last two days to focus on Santorum, may have undercut Gingrich’s stature enough to send him into an across-the-board retreat.  If so, Gingrich had either hope for a miracle in the February 22nd debate.  If Santorum comes in third in both Minnesota and Colorado while winning Missouri, it won’t be as dire, but he would lose the argument over his ability to outperform Gingrich in the center of the country, and the Not-Romney stalemate would continue.  And you know who that helps ….


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Santorum’s turn as FOTM

gatorboy on February 7, 2012 at 9:53 AM

If Rick “wins” today, it will be proof that Mitt is not the choice…he may have the most money, outspend by 10 or 20 times, have 10 or 20 more commercials, but the appeal is not there.
Mitt cannot win the general elections, people just don’t like him or trust him.
He has loyal followers, but most all of them are from his faith, they have exposed themselves time and time again, it’s a following of faith, not of values.
A double digit win for Rick, if Mitt was a patriot, he would ask to be Rick’s VP…

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Listen guys, if Santorum wins Minn and Missouri, then I think it’s time the Romney supporters call on Mitt to drop out of the race and fall in line behind the eventual nominee.

/s

shannon76 on February 7, 2012 at 9:56 AM

BUT WE NEED TO BEAT OBAMA!

Notorious GOP on February 7, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Could this be Santorum’s big day?

No, even if he wins twice, no.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 9:56 AM

I don’t get the votes are non binding

So even if Rick should win the delegates could be Mitt supporters?

cmsinaz on February 7, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Recently I’ve been struck by some rather creepy parallels between the current crop of GOP presidential contenders and characters in Gore Vidal’s movie “The Best Man”. Here’s my take on casting a remake with our current group of “actors”.

For Bill Russell, I’d cast Newt. Sure Romney is the frontrunner, but Newt is a better fit for the philandering ideas guy who doesn’t quite get the whole strategery thing right.

This leaves Mitt for Joe Cantwell. Sure Mitt is missing the whole common touch aspect of the Cantwell character, but he sure knows how to kick an opponent in the groin when he thinks it’s necessary. Yup, it’s Fightin’ Joe for Mitt.

The obvious choice for Governor John Merwyn is Rick. Both are guys you know nothing about. Perfect type casting.

And in the role of Southern Whacko, we have Ron as T.T. Claypool. It even gets better given Ron’s habit of leaving the GOP on a regular basis, as Bill Russell notes that “T.T. Claypool has all the attributes of a dog, except loyalty”.

That leaves the role of Mrs Gammadge. I can’t decide whether it should be Ann Coulter or Rich Lowry.

MichiCanuck on February 7, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Please stop pushing Rick Sanatarium. He’s an idiot, and big government politician.

MoreLiberty on February 7, 2012 at 9:57 AM

A lot of wishin’ and hopin’ going on today. But don’t be surprised when Romney wins all three.

cicerone on February 7, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Santorum’s turn as FOTM

gatorboy on February 7, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Friend of The Moon?

JohnGalt23 on February 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Happy voting, GG!
Go Santorum.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Please stop pushing Rick Sanatarium. He’s an idiot, and big government politician.

MoreLiberty on February 7, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Since he’s doing better than you, that makes you lower than an idiot.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Go Team Santorum!!!

multiuseless on February 7, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Please stop pushing Rick Sanatarium. He’s an idiot, and big government politician.

MoreLiberty on February 7, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Unlike Ron Paul: Patron saint of neo-Nazis, racists, and 9/11 truthers.
Go Santorum!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Anybody But Romney 2012

flyfisher on February 7, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Santorum didnt even make the ballot in several states. Still a pipedream.

swamp_yankee on February 7, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Please stop pushing Rick Sanatarium. He’s an idiot, and big government politician.

MoreLiberty on February 7, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Yeah, because Mitt did such a good job shrinking his government…/s for the obvious.

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Only thing that’s going to save Santorum is a huge influx of money within the next couple weeks. I don’t really think a Minnesota win will make that come about.

lowandslow on February 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Heh.
I think nolibetree is a Ronulan.
Ronbots like handles like that.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Santorum didnt even make the ballot in several states. Still a pipedream.

swamp_yankee on February 7, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Then why are you so worried?

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 10:03 AM

I’m hoping Santorum can eke out wins in both Minnesota and Missouri. A strong showing in Colorado would also be nice.

Stoic Patriot on February 7, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Santorum didnt even make the ballot in several states. Still a pipedream.

swamp_yankee on February 7, 2012 at 10:01 AM

And Romney outspending him by 40 times, and Rick is still ahead…I wonder why?

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 10:03 AM

He has loyal followers, but most all of them are from his faith, they have exposed themselves time and time again, it’s a following of faith, not of values.

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 9:55 AM

That would be an insightful comment if New Hampshire, Florida and Nevada were 40-50% mormon…..

PSConservative on February 7, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Anybody But Obama and Romney 2012!

shannon76 on February 7, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Could this be Santorum’s big day?
No, even if he wins twice, no.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Be nice cozmo!
GO SANTY! PLEASE DO SOMETHING GOOD TODAY!
GIVE US SOME NUMBER’S RICK!
Now I feel better.

KOOLAID2 on February 7, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Santorum was not my first choice and Heaven knows I will vote ABO 2012, but I do hope he does well. I will be unable to caucus tonight – but my thoughts will be there.

Sue Doenim on February 7, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Only thing that’s going to save Santorum is a huge influx of money within the next couple weeks. I don’t really think a Minnesota win will make that come about.

lowandslow on February 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM

And without the money he is incredibly strong…in the general election, Mitt won’t have that money advantage, and his “leverage” will be gone, than what…run on his record? A liberal record…

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Seriously, I would probably back Mitt if the polls showed him beating Obama and he was clearly a strong candidate. But with Rasmussen and ABC/Wash Post showing Obama cleaning his clock and his favorables cratering, that entire “electablity” rationale is gone. Since I’m a social Conservative first, Santorum will probably get my vote, if the WI Primary ends up meaning anything.

gumbyandpokey on February 7, 2012 at 10:05 AM

All of the candidates will inevitably be regionally popular…somewhere
Re: South Carolina
.
.
Its gonna take months.

FlaMurph on February 7, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Mittens, with all his cash and organization, has to be wondering why he can’t shake the two ankle-biters growling around his feet. I totally understand how he could look at Santy and Newtie and wonder why no one believes that HE’S a conservative, too!? Must drive Mittens crazy.

cartooner on February 7, 2012 at 10:05 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:02 AM

I don’t really give a crap.

I’m havin’ a schadenfreude, or honda day.

I’m hungry and want some nutballs. I didn’t rearm, but I reloaded and let off some steam, but that didn’t work.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 10:05 AM

We need a candidate with Gingrich’s brain and Santorum’s moral character. The problem is, Ronald Reagan is no longer with us.

Steve Z on February 7, 2012 at 10:05 AM

its been quite a stealth rise for Santorum here. Considering the MSM conversation for the last two months its really quite remarkable that he is leading so well in two of three states today. If Gingrich finished third in all three states he is finished – its just a shame he won’t realize it…

PSConservative on February 7, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Santorum couldn’t get reelected in his home state even though he brought home the bacon. Yeah, 2008 was a bloodbath, but did we really think his seat was in jeopardy? I like most of this conservative policies, but he’s not much better than Mitt and he has a fraction of the money.

Beating Obama is job 1. We can’t quibble over tertiary and quaternary issues or we’ll never back a strong candidate. We pick two issues and that’s Obamacare (which Romney promised to dismantle) and illegal immigration (which Romney promised to curtail by securing our southern border with a fence). Bolton can handle the foreign policy stuff as SoS and whomever the VP(Rubio? Newt?)is can deal with managing Congress.

the_souse on February 7, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Every non-Romney needs at least one big day. That way it makes it more credible if they are chosen for the VP slot. ;-)

rhombus on February 7, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Be nice cozmo!

KOOLAID2 on February 7, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Why, he won’t be able to overcome the Romney slime machine.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Pennsylvania girl here – have NO idea what you see in Santorum.

GeorgieGirl9 on February 7, 2012 at 10:07 AM

It’ll be Frothy’s second best night of the campaign. He’ll win MO, but I think Romney takes MN and laps the field in CO.

Resistance in futile.

JohnGalt23 on February 7, 2012 at 10:07 AM

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Bullsh*t.
I’m Catholic-but I’m not supporting Santorum because of it anymore than I’d be voting for a woman just because we’re both female.
I wanted Jindal, Pence, or Perry.
Not happenin’.
I loathe Newt and Mitt.
That leaves Santorum.
Got it?
Good.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Turning out for Santorum today!

Mr. Prodigy on February 7, 2012 at 10:07 AM

That would be an insightful comment if New Hampshire, Florida and Nevada were 40-50% mormon…..

PSConservative on February 7, 2012 at 10:03 AM

I stated “loyal”, not ones that vote because he ran 60 ads to the competitors one ad…and that was 60 hit ads against his competitors. No one can stand up to that onslaught…but in the general he won’t have that money advantage, and then he has to run on his record…a liberal record.
He has a lot of money, wall street is heavily financing him (I wonder why, it couldn’t be that they all received TARP bailout money could it?)…but his loyal following is very weak, and very concentrated.

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Pennsylvania girl here – have NO idea what you see in Santorum.

GeorgieGirl9 on February 7, 2012 at 10:07 AM

It’s his genetics they like.

They are distinct from Mitt Romney.

JohnGalt23 on February 7, 2012 at 10:08 AM

(which Romney promised to curtail by securing our southern border with a fence)
the_souse on February 7, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Anybody who thinks it can be done is at the very least geographically ignorant.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Well, Mitt is a strong gun rights advocate. He has spoken out bravely against the Fast and Furious mess, hasn’t he? Hasn’t he?

a capella on February 7, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Pennsylvania girl here – have NO idea what you see in Santorum.

GeorgieGirl9 on February 7, 2012 at 10:07 AM

My mother was born/raised in Pittsburgh.
Anyway-I like Santorum because he seems like a mensch…and he’s not Mitt or Newt.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:09 AM

It’ll be Frothy’s second best night of the campaign.
JohnGalt23 on February 7, 2012 at 10:07 AM

At least he “froths” less than you.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 10:10 AM

It’s his genetics they like.

They are distinct from Mitt Romney.

JohnGalt23 on February 7, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Bullsh*t again.
I’d have ZERO problem voting for a rich guy…or a Morman.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Got it?
Good.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:07 AM

I didn’t state “all” I said the majority of his loyal supporters, you know who they are, are of the same faith…of course it’s a big nation and some are outside his faith. But the most vocal have identified themselves as his faith, and that is okay.
Got it?
Good…

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 10:11 AM

True Conservatives should have backed Santorum from the get-go. He’s conservative down the line, and the biggest knock on him is that he lost hugely in a swing state, which True Conservatives find to be an irrelevant metric of candidate quality in any case.

At the very least, they’d still have all the credibility they burned up when they asserted that debates would be the end-all be-all of the general election and defended serial adultery as a conservative value.

KingGold on February 7, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Santorum couldn’t get reelected in his home state even though he brought home the bacon. Yeah, 2008 was a bloodbath, but did we really think his seat was in jeopardy? I like most of this conservative policies, but he’s not much better than Mitt and he has a fraction of the money.

Beating Obama is job 1. We can’t quibble over tertiary and quaternary issues or we’ll never back a strong candidate. We pick two issues and that’s Obamacare (which Romney promised to dismantle) and illegal immigration (which Romney promised to curtail by securing our southern border with a fence). Bolton can handle the foreign policy stuff as SoS and whomever the VP(Rubio? Newt?)is can deal with managing Congress.

the_souse on February 7, 2012 at 10:06 AM

On Santorum’s 2006 loss: yeah, he got wiped out with all the other GOPers for supporting the Iraq war. The only reason Romney didn’t lose, when he was up for reelection that same year with approval numbers in the 30s, was because he declined to run again.

On strength of candidacy, Santorum beats Obama by 1 according to the latest Rasmussen numbers (45-44), whereas Romney loses by 4 (47-43).

On Obamacare: it’s hard to dismantle if we nominate the architect of Obamacare and its state-based predecessor Romneycare

On illegal immigration: Romney doesn’t have much credibility one way or the other on this; he’s explicitly said we won’t round up people and deport them, even though ICE exists for that very reason

Stoic Patriot on February 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Bullsh*t again.
I’d have ZERO problem voting for a rich guy…or a Morman.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Genetics have nothing to do with wealth or religion. They are merely unique to the individual.

Are you really going to sit there and tell me, with a straight face, that you have no problem voting for Mitt Romney?

JohnGalt23 on February 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM

He has a lot of money, wall street is heavily financing him (I wonder why, it couldn’t be that they all received TARP bailout money could it?)…

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 10:08 AM

You’re right, it couldn’t possibly be that people who know money and business see Mitt as the best man to get the country back in fiscal shape… /s

Mitt is picking up a lot of the money that was going to Obama last cycle. I’m still not convinced that Obama is going to have the financial clout that everyone thinks he is going to have – unless he is up against Newt or Santorum, who have failed miserably to generate fundraising. Romney will have parity if not better against Obama imo. That’s not a reason to vote for him, but its not a reason not to vote for him….

PSConservative on February 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Santorum couldn’t get reelected in his home state even though he brought home the bacon. Yeah, 2008 was a bloodbath, but did we really think his seat was in jeopardy? I like most of this conservative policies, but he’s not much better than Mitt and he has a fraction of the money.

the_souse on February 7, 2012 at 10:06 AM

First of all, it was 2006, not 2008. And yes, his seat was in jeopardy. Many Republican seats were, even normally safe ones. Why do you think 2012 is looking so good for the GOP with the Democrats’ popularity suffering? We’re poised to get back a lot of those seats we lost(Claire McCaskill’sin Missouri for example).

As for Santorum’s loss in 2006, it was bad. No argument here. And if that gives people pause as far as his electability in a general election, so be it. But keep in mind that he also won repeatedly in that state which ain’t easy to do when running as a conservative. Mittens on the other hand got his ass handed to him in 1994 when he ran for the Senate, and that was despite running to left of Ted Kennedy on a whole host of issues. And he may not have gotten whooped in 2006, but that’s only because he chose to not seek reelection rather than take his 34% approval rating to the voters of MassachusettEs and ask for 4 more years.

Doughboy on February 7, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Well, Mitt is a strong gun rights advocate. He has spoken out bravely against the Fast and Furious mess, hasn’t he? Hasn’t he?

a capella on February 7, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Oh yes, he has kept the heat on this administration…praising them for Gov. takeover of companies…just who we need as president again…Obama won his senate seat by eliminating the competition, not with his policies, ideas…sound familiar?

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 10:14 AM

At least he “froths” less than you.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 10:10 AM

Oh, he’s I froth… but he is Frothy.

JohnGalt23 on February 7, 2012 at 10:14 AM

M

y mother was born/raised in Pittsburgh.
Anyway-I like Santorum because he seems like a mensch…and he’s not Mitt or Newt.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:09 AM

You’re right, he’s not Mitt or Newt…and he has no prayer of beating Obama. I’m sure you know there’s a treasure trove of “radical conservative crazy” material just waiting to be shared by the DNC should Santorum be the nominee? I don’t love any of the candidates either but I h8 Obama and what he’s doing to our country more.

GeorgieGirl9 on February 7, 2012 at 10:14 AM

No, he is just the flavor of the month, before Romney aims his fire on him and it will be a nice sight to behold, then Mitt will be the nominee and we will enjoy watching him go down in flames in the general. Go GOP. nice job.

evergreenland on February 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM

I don’t get the votes are non binding

So even if Rick should win the delegates could be Mitt supporters?

cmsinaz on February 7, 2012 at 9:56 AM

To avoid losing delegates. Any primaries held before March and half the delegates are tossed. So what happens is that the Missouri Republican Party ignores the results of the primary and holds a caucus at a later date.

NotCoach on February 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Anybody But Romney 2012

flyfisher on February 7, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Nobody but Romney 2012

rich801 on February 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM

yes I froth… damn autospell

JohnGalt23 on February 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Romney will have parity if not better against Obama imo. That’s not a reason to vote for him, but its not a reason not to vote for him….

PSConservative on February 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM

But Mitt has shown he needs that 10:1 advantage (at least) to overcome his negatives, and I don’t think that will happen.

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 10:16 AM

Santorum didnt even make the ballot in several states. Still a pipedream.

swamp_yankee on February 7, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Besides VA, name another state where Santorum did not make it. In Indiana, he will be on the ballot

ConservativePartyNow on February 7, 2012 at 10:16 AM

GeorgieGirl9 on February 7, 2012 at 10:14 AM

In the end I’ll vote for whomever the nominee is…as long as the nominee ain’t Ron Paul(it won’t be).

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:17 AM

its been quite a stealth rise for Santorum here. Considering the MSM conversation for the last two months its really quite remarkable that he is leading so well in two of three states today. If Gingrich finished third in all three states he is finished – its just a shame he won’t realize it…

PSConservative on February 7, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Yesterday I heard an analyst theorize that the best way to defeat Romney is for both Newt and Santorum to stay in through the proportional delegate states, and then for the guy with the least delegates to drop out. That would mean both stay in until April.

I haven’t looked at the math, but it’s interesting to read that Newt said he and Santorum have agreed that neither will drop out.

flyfisher on February 7, 2012 at 10:17 AM

GeorgieGirl9 on February 7, 2012 at 10:14 AM

I live in TX-so it’s not like my vote’s going to matter in the primaries anyway.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:18 AM

In the end I’ll vote for whomever the nominee is…as long as the nominee ain’t Ron Paul(it won’t be).

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:17 AM

And so will I

GeorgieGirl9 on February 7, 2012 at 10:18 AM

True Conservatives should have backed Santorum from the get-go. He’s conservative down the line, and the biggest knock on him is that he lost hugely in a swing state, which True Conservatives find to be an irrelevant metric of candidate quality in any case.

At the very least, they’d still have all the credibility they burned up when they asserted that debates would be the end-all be-all of the general election and defended serial adultery as a conservative value.

KingGold on February 7, 2012 at 10:12 AM

Then it is a sad day for conservatism. To me, a real or “true” conservative is still a limited government, Constitutional originalist. Santorum, like Bush, is definitely NOT!

cartooner on February 7, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Anybody But Romney 2012

flyfisher on February 7, 2012 at 10:01 AM

Nobody but Romney 2012

rich801 on February 7, 2012 at 10:15 AM

I bet my bumper sticker would outsell yours 10-1.

flyfisher on February 7, 2012 at 10:19 AM

cartooner on February 7, 2012 at 10:18 AM

He meant social conservatives.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 10:20 AM

In all, Taxpayers for Common Sense estimated, Mr. Santorum helped secure more than $1 billion in earmarks during his Senate career, which stretched from 1995 through 2006. But because federal lawmakers did not have to disclose them, as they must do today, it is nearly impossible to produce a complete list.

Why doesn’t he release his full list of Earmarks?
Why doesn’t he release his taxes?

rubberneck on February 7, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Anybody but Newt: If Santorum can show he can beat Chairman Obama then he’s got my vote.

Gingrich headed for 3 more losses today. That PROVES he’s electable.

cough…cough…

NickDeringer on February 7, 2012 at 10:21 AM

GeorgieGirl9 on February 7, 2012 at 10:14 AM

I live in TX-so it’s not like my vote’s going to matter in the primaries anyway.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Hey, Newt’s counting on Texas in his grand and fundamental strategy du jour. ;-)

rhombus on February 7, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Romney will have parity if not better against Obama imo. That’s not a reason to vote for him, but its not a reason not to vote for him….

PSConservative on February 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM

But Mitt has shown he needs that 10:1 advantage (at least) to overcome his negatives, and I don’t think that will happen.

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 10:16 AM

That is true, but then it will be true for ANY of the Repub candidates against Obama and the MSM. At least Romney has demonstrated that he is capable of supporting such a fight…

PSConservative on February 7, 2012 at 10:21 AM

I live in TX-so it’s not like my vote’s going to matter in the primaries anyway.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Sshhhhh!!!

Don’t tell Newt. He’s counting on TX.

JohnGalt23 on February 7, 2012 at 10:22 AM

Go Santorum!!

Kick some Mittbott ass!!!

tkyang99 on February 7, 2012 at 10:23 AM

I bet my bumper sticker would outsell yours 10-1.

flyfisher on February 7, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Only before August.

JohnGalt23 on February 7, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Winning non-binding beauty contests is not as big a deal as the media made it out to be. But Santorum winning MN and MS enable reporters and bloggers something to write about and pretend that there is a horse race. If Romney is the Party Establishment’s choice, why can’t the state GOP party in MN and MS to select a pro-Romney slate of delegates to the convention later no matter what the return is today, particularly if MN is close and Santorum fades again in primaries to come.

galtani on February 7, 2012 at 10:23 AM

But, but…I thought Romney was going to be the nominee? But, but, I thought Romney had it “all wrapped up”? But, but, what’s happening??

Hee hee hee hee!!!!!!!!!

jfs756 on February 7, 2012 at 10:24 AM

Then it is a sad day for conservatism. To me, a real or “true” conservative is still a limited government, Constitutional originalist. Santorum, like Bush, is definitely NOT!

cartooner on February 7, 2012 at 10:18 AM

I must emphasize that I didn’t say “true conservatives.” I said “True Conservatives,” who, more often than not, are neither true nor conservative nor truly conservative, and are far more notable for what they’re against (the nebulous Hated Establishment) than what they’re for.

It’s true that Santorum’s got his share of heresies. But of the candidates who remain, he’s the strongest conservative of the bunch.

KingGold on February 7, 2012 at 10:25 AM

annoyinglittletwerp on February 7, 2012 at 10:18 AM

Yeah, and since LULAC wouldn’t sign off on the map, it will be pushed back farther, or split.

If it gets split, that will screw LULAC and the candidates it supports. Lets split it.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 10:25 AM

He meant social conservatives.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Then he shoulda armed himself said so…

cartooner on February 7, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Romney will have parity if not better against Obama imo. That’s not a reason to vote for him, but its not a reason not to vote for him….

PSConservative on February 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM

But Mitt has shown he needs that 10:1 advantage (at least) to overcome his negatives, and I don’t think that will happen.

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 10:16 AM
That is true, but then it will be true for ANY of the Repub candidates against Obama and the MSM. At least Romney has demonstrated that he is capable of supporting such a fight…

PSConservative on February 7, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Hey, for whatever reason, Romney has the money and organization and both WILL BE NECESSARY. Like it or not, the other candiates have not done as well there and just hoping that a good debate performance will result in manna from heaven is kind of dellusional.

rhombus on February 7, 2012 at 10:26 AM

And Romney outspending him by 40 times, and Rick is still ahead…I wonder why?

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 10:03 AM

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Team Oblamer yesterday decided Super Pacs ain’t so bad after all. All the BS the media fed everyone during this primary season – all the disdain for super pacs – is out the window now.
So all the purists worried about the evil forces of Super Pacs and how unfair they are, you just got served yesterday.
1. The media will cease brow beating the Romney Super Pac BS.
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2. The name for oblamer’s super pac is called…. Hollywood.
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3. Gird your loins.

FlaMurph on February 7, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Could this be Santorum’s big day?

Absolutely.

Just like Huckabee’s Super Tuesday wins in 2008 were a game changer. Oh wait, they weren’t.

O.K., then. Just like Romney’s Michigan win in 2008 was a game changer. Oh wait, it wasn’t.

Well, Gingrich’s huge upset in South Carolina in 2012 was a huge game changer. Oh wait, it wasn’t.

Good luck, Rick. You’ll be lucky to have Huckabee’s 15% going into the convention.

Mr. Arkadin on February 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Then it is a sad day for conservatism. To me, a real or “true” conservative is still a limited government, Constitutional originalist. Santorum, like Bush, is definitely NOT!

cartooner on February 7, 2012 at 10:18 AM

There are no “true” conservatives left in the race. They all have problems so we have to choose the best of the worst.

I think Santorum has been the most consistent. It would be a much needed boost for his campaign if he does well. I’m going to have to hit the donate button again.

WisRich on February 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM

Then he shoulda said so…

cartooner on February 7, 2012 at 10:25 AM

Because social conservatives think they are the only real conservatives.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM

I bet my bumper sticker would outsell yours 10-1.

flyfisher on February 7, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Only before August.

JohnGalt23 on February 7, 2012 at 10:23 AM

That’s what I was referring, too. I wouldn’t hold my nose and vote Romney in November, but I expect most on the right would.

flyfisher on February 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM

FlaMurph on February 7, 2012 at 10:26 AM

I hope you weren’t surprised.

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 10:28 AM

On Santorum’s 2006 loss: yeah, he got wiped out with all the other GOPers for supporting the Iraq war. The only reason Romney didn’t lose, when he was up for reelection that same year with approval numbers in the 30s, was because he declined to run again.

Stoic Patriot on February 7, 2012 at 10:13 AM

As for Santorum’s loss in 2006, it was bad. No argument here. And if that gives people pause as far as his electability in a general election, so be it. But keep in mind that he also won repeatedly in that state which ain’t easy to do when running as a conservative. Mittens on the other hand got his ass handed to him in 1994 when he ran for the Senate, and that was despite running to left of Ted Kennedy on a whole host of issues. And he may not have gotten whooped in 2006, but that’s only because he chose to not seek reelection rather than take his 34% approval rating to the voters of MassachusettEs and ask for 4 more years.

Doughboy on February 7, 2012 at 10:14 AM

Yep.

Pennsylvania girl here – have NO idea what you see in Santorum.

GeorgieGirl9 on February 7, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Massachusetts resident here – have NO idea what people see in Romney.

Just Sayin on February 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM

Thanks notcoach

cmsinaz on February 7, 2012 at 10:29 AM

He has loyal followers, but most all of them are from his faith, they have exposed themselves time and time again, it’s a following of faith, not of values.
A double digit win for Rick, if Mitt was a patriot, he would ask to be Rick’s VP…

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 9:55 AM

..what an absolutely idiotic statement. Do you drive while using that brain?

The War Planner on February 7, 2012 at 10:30 AM

We have the most divisive president in U.S. History declaring a War on our Religious Liberty, and a potential Republican Presidential Nominee whose own implementation and advocacy of a socialist, state-run Healthcare System precludes him from taking the moral high ground in the upcoming battle.

So…tell me again about “Mr. Electability”?

kingsjester on February 7, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Then it is a sad day for conservatism. To me, a real or “true” conservative is still a limited government, Constitutional originalist. Santorum, like Bush, is definitely NOT!

cartooner on February 7, 2012 at 10:18 AM

There are no “true” conservatives left in the race. They all have problems so we have to choose the best of the worst.

I think Santorum has been the most consistent. It would be a much needed boost for his campaign if he does well. I’m going to have to hit the donate button again.

WisRich on February 7, 2012 at 10:27 AM

As Dick Armey said, there’s no small-government movement conservative still in the race.

flyfisher on February 7, 2012 at 10:30 AM

cozmo on February 7, 2012 at 10:28 AM

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Nope.
Just sharing with those new to the “process”.

FlaMurph on February 7, 2012 at 10:31 AM

But Mitt has shown he needs that 10:1 advantage (at least) to overcome his negatives, and I don’t think that will happen.

right2bright on February 7, 2012 at 10:16 AM

And for the record… since numbers like “10:1″ are thrown around so readily, it is worth noting that the “Candidate + PAC” advantage of Romney over Gingrich in Florida was only 3:1. Still a massive advantage, but nothing like 10:1. And while Mitt got his $18 million that he and his PAC spent from many more donations, the vast majority of Gingrich’s $6million spend was from ONE donor….. It doesn’t fill me with confidence…

PSConservative on February 7, 2012 at 10:31 AM

laps the field in CO.

JohnGalt23 on February 7, 2012 at 10:07 AM

yup, my state will trash the newtster tonight by double digits. how many times will he lose by double digits before he gets the picture?

hanzblinx on February 7, 2012 at 10:31 AM

Mittens has as many loyal followers as his money can buy. And it can buy plenty. “Romney” is an anagram for “Money (R)”, didn’t you know that?

Archivarix on February 7, 2012 at 10:32 AM

It’s true that Santorum’s got his share of heresies. But of the candidates who remain, he’s the strongest conservative of the bunch.

KingGold on February 7, 2012 at 10:25 AM

But he wasn’t the most or best conservative at the start. Since in my book, there are no conservatives left, I don’t care which one wins the Nom. I’ll vote for a yellow dog over Obama, but these big government clowns we’re stuck with will be only marginally better and open the door for more progressives down the road.

cartooner on February 7, 2012 at 10:32 AM

We have the most divisive president in U.S. History declaring a War on our Religious Liberty, and a potential Republican Presidential Nominee whose own implementation and advocacy of a socialist, state-run Healthcare System precludes him from taking the moral high ground in the upcoming battle.

So…tell me again about “Mr. Electability”?

kingsjester on February 7, 2012 at 10:30 AM

..serious question here, K.J., asked the other day on another thread: what would it take from Romney in terms of disavowing RomneyCare or his attitude towards health care policy to get you or others to reconsider his candidacy?

The War Planner on February 7, 2012 at 10:33 AM

I am fine with Rick.

Southernblogger on February 7, 2012 at 10:34 AM

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