Sharpton: Obama needs to dictate to the Catholic Church to maintain separation of church and state, or something

posted at 11:10 am on February 6, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Someone has a very confused idea about the separation of church and state, and surprisingly, it’s the Reverend in this Morning Joe panel today. Working off of Peggy Noonan’s Wall Street Journal column from Saturday, Al Sharpton argues that Barack Obama had to dictate to the Catholic Church to violate its religious tenets in order to … preserve the separation of church and state?

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Rev. Al Sharpton: No, I think you have to have the reverse argument, and that is if I want to seek employment and have employment in a church but that I disagree with the dogma and theology of the church, do I have the right to be protected by law? And I think that what the Obama administration is saying that you do not have to follow the tenets of a church organization to be an employee of a church.

Scarborough: Do you think this is a good decision?

Sharpton: If we are going to have a separation of church and state, we’re going to have a separation of church and state. Whether I would personally agree with the decision or not, the question is do I have a right to make that law?

This is an absurd perversion of the concept of separation of church and state.  When Thomas Jefferson wrote that (it’s not found in American law), he meant that the church should not dictate to the State on law — and that the state should not dictate to the church on doctrine. Jefferson wanted to avoid establishing a state religion run by Parliament that had the power to manipulate the spiritual for the sake of the secular. That is exactly what Obama proposes to do in this case: dictate to the Catholic Church and its organizations that its doctrine on contraception, abortion, and sterilization are incorrect and force them to fund those practices that violate their most deeply held beliefs on the sanctity of life, all to satisfy Obama’s political needs.

Joe Scarborough and Mika Brzezinski aren’t buying Sharpton’s spin:

Mika Brzezinski: Obviously they’re getting money from the government. Having said that, the Catholic religion believes certain things; they believe it to be fact. And so you’re asking them not to be Catholic if you impose these regulations on them.

Scarborough: You have a lot of Catholics who are pro-choice who were offended by this decision…The very idea that a centralized government, a centralized state can reach out and tell the church…Kathleen Parker put it this way “You have to forfeit your most fundamental beliefs or face prohibitive penalties or close hospitals, schools, charities, etc…” I must say it’s a staggering, staggering decision by HHS…[to Mika] You’re a Catholic. What are your thoughts?

Brzezinski: I think it’s wrong; I agree with you. And I think it was an overstep.

The Catholic Church’s hospitals get money from the government, but only for caring for the otherwise indigent.  If that’s the basis of the intervention, then Catholic hospitals will likely close their doors.  The bishops will not allow for abortions and sterilizations that violate the very mission on which those hospitals are based — the protection and promotion of sacred human life.  That will only make matters worse for the poor, and also for the government that would have to fill the very large gap left by the closing of hundreds of hospitals and clinics.

If one disagrees with the Catholic Church’s doctrine on the sanctity of human life, then they don’t need to work for their institutions, as Scarborough says later in the segment.  Otherwise, they can buy their own abortions, contraception, and sterilization.  Catholics who see these as deep sins should not be forced to underwrite them through their own church (it’s bad enough that we’re doing so through the government), and especially not based on an elitist diktat from a government that is supposed to stay out of church business.


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Bishop…Tell him to shut his piehole!

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM

If I want to hear what idiots like Sharpton think, I’ll mosey on down to skid roll and poll the denizens.

Whatever dude.

NoDonkey on February 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Unbelievable…

tom daschle concerned on February 6, 2012 at 11:13 AM

He’s right considering that the Separation of Church and State was created from whole cloth in the mid-19th Century to deny public funding for RC schools but somehow I doubt he’s referring to that bit of history so I guess he’s just an idiot.

andycanuck on February 6, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Stupid, he much.

Stupid, he berrah berrah much!

GrassMudHorsey on February 6, 2012 at 11:14 AM

Lying race slut gives moral advice. No one notices or cares. No film, at 11 or any other time.

Friends don’t let friends click on al shrimpton links.

platypus on February 6, 2012 at 11:15 AM

Do you mean “skid marks” or “skid row”, NoDonkey? There’s no skid roll.

andycanuck on February 6, 2012 at 11:15 AM

He constantly shows what an idiot he is.

darwin on February 6, 2012 at 11:16 AM

Remind me… why is this guy referred to as “the Reverend”?

Mr. Prodigy on February 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Resist we much !

Lucano on February 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

The very idea that a centralized government, a centralized state can reach out and tell the church…Kathleen Parker put it this way “You have to forfeit your most fundamental beliefs or face prohibitive penalties or close hospitals, schools, charities, etc…”

This is no “slippery slope” argument. We’ve slid halfway down the hill and we’re fast approaching the abyss.

rogaineguy on February 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

If only the Founders had known that hundreds of years after establishing our government, that same government would become a State Religion.

WordsMatter on February 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

“The Catholic Church’s hospitals get money from the government, but only for caring for the otherwise indigent. If that’s the basis of the intervention, then Catholic hospitals will likely close their doors.”

There is another alternative – not to take government money. This also begs the question, does government have the right to force hospitals to care for anybody ? Clearly in practice they do – but is that even constitutional ?

alQemist on February 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

I didn’t realize Tourette’s evidenced itself in entire paragraphs.

rogerb on February 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

But it is ok for Obama, Jesse, Al, etal to campaign from the pulpit? BTW, does Rev Al have a church?

Dingbat63 on February 6, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Absurd, we much!

JohnGalt23 on February 6, 2012 at 11:18 AM

I see Brzezinski had a rare moment of clarity. Perhaps they had her on 100% oxygen just before the show.

darwin on February 6, 2012 at 11:18 AM

But it is ok for Obama, Jesse, Al, etal to campaign from the pulpit? BTW, does Rev Al have a church?

Dingbat63 on February 6, 2012 at 11:18 AM

For that matter, is he even Christian. Kinda don’t think so….

chai on February 6, 2012 at 11:19 AM

The establishment clause was put in to protect the church/synagogue from the state-not the reverse.
No surprise that ‘Rev’ Tawana Sharpley doesn’t know this.
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annoyinglittletwerp on February 6, 2012 at 11:19 AM

But it is ok for Obama, Jesse, Al, etal to campaign from the pulpit? BTW, does Rev Al have a church?

Dingbat63 on February 6, 2012 at 11:18 AM

It’s ok for democrats to do anything … they have no rules, standards or morals.

darwin on February 6, 2012 at 11:19 AM

how does this brain dead moron who can not even speak in a coherent fashion get to voice his opinions nationally when he should be locked up in a mental institution?

SDarchitect on February 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM

cocaine is a hell of a drug

DHChron on February 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Do you mean “skid marks” or “skid row”, NoDonkey? There’s no skid roll.

andycanuck on February 6, 2012 at 11:15 AM

We’re talking Reverend Al Numbton language here!

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2012 at 11:20 AM

Huh?

I don’t even know what the heck Sharpton is arguing. My brain hurts just from reading it. Plus I am pretty certain my IQ just dropped 20 points as a result.

Marcus Traianus on February 6, 2012 at 11:21 AM

The Master Baiter of Race has spoken. Obey we much!

Flange on February 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

.
… Dictate we much …”
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Arbalest on February 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

John Stossel-yeah, that John Stossel-was most likely born in the same Catholic hospital as my ex, brother, and son. I can almost guarantee that said institution will shut down rather than go along with this edict.
It would be cool if Stossel did…something…to bring attention to that.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Shut yer piehole, Sharpie!

Bishop on February 6, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Contracept we much?

DHChron on February 6, 2012 at 11:23 AM

I tuned to this for five minutes and Scarborough looked genuinely ashamed “Rev Al Race Baiter” was on his show. Lie in the bed you’ve made, MessNBC.

Marcus on February 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM

I applaud MSNBC for finally having a non-white host on their show, but until they make Jeremiah Wright an anchor it will be hard to take them seriously.

CorporatePiggy on February 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM

Idiot, he yes.

St Gaudens on February 6, 2012 at 11:24 AM

guess Perry was right on Obama’s war on religion

Donald Draper on February 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

That will only make matters worse for the poor, and also for the government that would have to fill the very large gap left by the closing of hundreds of hospitals and clinics.

Feature, not bug.

Betenoire on February 6, 2012 at 11:25 AM

Scarborough: [to Mika] You’re a Catholic.

Mika a Catholic? Really?

That is the only surprising thing here. Wow.

Surprise we much.

Mangy Scot on February 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Dictate we much.

a capella on February 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM

The Obama administration is bigger than The Lord, just ask them. It has nothing to do with the fact that they give the church a few bucks out of the trillions they spend. It rests soley with the fact they are a higher power. It was that way in the Soviet Union, and by golly, that’s the way it’s going to be here.

NOMOBO on February 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM

I don’t pay any attention to any of these people on a daily basis and I am not going to start now. Get lost, you three!

ExpressoBold on February 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM

I feel dirty doing this, but I think what Sharpton was pointing out was that The Church cannot hide behind doctrine and ignore the law. Now since this a rule dictated by HHS and not “Law” then there is a gray area.

If Congress passed a LAW specifically stating that institutions receiving federal money had to provide insurance that covers Birth Control or Hospitals were required to provide abortions, then there would be very little recourse for the church. Think Polygamy or animal sacrifice.

Now that isn’t the case here this was an executive ruling not a law. So Sharpton is wrong, but but if this was a true law then he’d be correct.

Critic2029 on February 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Justice Ginsburg causes storm dissing the Constitution while abroad
Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg has caused a storm of controversy by saying in a television interview that the people of Egypt should not look to the United States Constitution when drafting their own governing document because it’s too old and there are newer examples from which to draw inspiration.
“I would not look to the U.S. Constitution if I were drafting a constitution in the year 2012,” Ginsburg said in the interview, which aired on Jan. 30 on Al-Hayat TV.
Her comments have stunned writers across the conservative blogosphere, though many major media outlets have not given much attention to it.
In the interview, she argued that the United States has the “oldest written constitution still in force in the world,” so instead “you should certainly be aided by all the constitution-writing that has gone one since the end of World War II.”
“I might look at the constitution of South Africa,” Ginsburg said. “That was a deliberate attempt to have a fundamental instrument of government that embraced basic human rights, had an independent judiciary.”
Ginsburg, appointed to the Supreme Court by former President Bill Clinton, said South Africa’s constitution is “a great piece of work that was done” and cited other documents outside America’s constitution that Egyptians should read.
“Much more recent than the U.S. Constitution, Canada has a Charter of Rights and Freedoms,” Ginsburg said. “It dates from 1982. You would almost certainly look at the European Convention on Human Rights.”
“Yes,” she concluded, “why not take advantage of what there is elsewhere in the world?”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/02/06/justice-ginsburg-causes-storm-dissing-the-constitution-while-abroad/#ixzz1lcDAdXeP

Zcat on February 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM

All I can say on this issue is that HHS has overstepped their bounds in the narrowly written religious institution requirements. If an employer has selected a Catholic insurance provider, then that provider should have to provide contraception. But that is the only instances when it should be forced on Catholic institutions.

libfreeordie on February 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM

“We need to tell them diamond merchants to start obeying too.”

-Revrund Al

Bishop on February 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM

Yet judges rule that Sharia law can be used to decide court cases! Go figure.

I wonder how these same judges feel about the Bible being used to decide court cases? I know; silly me. They think Islam is OK while Christianity is bad.

gasmeterguy on February 6, 2012 at 11:27 AM

If Congress passed a LAW specifically stating that institutions receiving federal money had to provide insurance that covers Birth Control or Hospitals were required to provide abortions, then there would be very little recourse for the church. Think Polygamy or animal sacrifice.

They did….it was called the Affordable Health Care Act of 2009

libfreeordie on February 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Arbalest on February 6, 2012 at 11:22 AM

Ooops. Sorry. Didn’t mean to bigfoot ya.

a capella on February 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

The establishment clause was put in to protect the church/synagogue from the state-not the reverse.
No surprise that ‘Rev’ Tawana Sharpley doesn’t know this.
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annoyinglittletwerp on February 6, 2012 at 11:19 AM

In part. The establishment clause was put in to protect the people from a government telling them they must belong to a particular church, as in Church of England, or face punishment. The second part of the sentence is what protects the various religions from governmental interference.

totherightofthem on February 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

A mind like a steel trap. Broken and rusted shut.

Kenosha Kid on February 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

If Congress passed a LAW specifically stating that institutions receiving federal money had to provide insurance that covers Birth Control or Hospitals were required to provide abortions, then there would be very little recourse for the church. Think Polygamy or animal sacrifice.

Now that isn’t the case here this was an executive ruling not a law. So Sharpton is wrong, but but if this was a true law then he’d be correct.

Critic2029 on February 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM

The church has recourse. The church can stop providing ANY health care services. A large part of freedom is the freedom of conscience.

gryphon202 on February 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM

I wanna see this celebrity death match…Obama vs. Pope

DHChron on February 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM

What I don’t get is why Obama is inserting himself into this at all. Aside from the obvious First Amendment violation the HHS is committing, what exactly is he gaining by pissing off the church? I haven’t seen any Catholic employees rioting in the streets b/c their OC’s aren’t covered by their healthplan! People understand when you work for a Catholic organization, you can’t expect certain things. Duh? If this isn’t an issue for the employees, why make it an issue at all? This is such a stupid political move and a blatant attempt to grab more power and render the church less so. He’s so weird and disgusting.

JAM on February 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Just think what BHO can do if he gets four more years…!

d1carter on February 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Now that isn’t the case here this was an executive ruling not a law. So Sharpton is wrong, but but if this was a true law then he’d be correct.

Critic2029 on February 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM

.
You are a pretzel!

ExpressoBold on February 6, 2012 at 11:29 AM

Couldn’t Catholic hospitals simply ask for and receive a waiver from ObamaCare….I mean like the unions did?

Bishop on February 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

You have a lot of Catholics who are pro-choice who were offended by this decision…

Of course – being pro-choice would mean, as a matter of fact, they are not Catholic. But who cares about facts these days?

CycloneCDB on February 6, 2012 at 11:30 AM

When will someone, anyone, take Black churches to task for preaching politics from the pulpit EVERY Sunday in almost every one of their churches?
When someone stands up for “separation of church and state”, let ‘em begin there!

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on February 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

They did….it was called the Affordable Health Care Act of 2009

libfreeordie on February 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

Yeah, but nobody knew what the hell was in it because they had to pass it first to find out.

They really should rename it though … it doesn;t make health care affordable for anyone except the government which can just steal more money or print it.

darwin on February 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

@alQemist:

“Clearly in practice they do – but is that even constitutional?”

See, now you’re just being funny- is an individual mandate to require everyone to purchase a product constitutional? Is declaring war without Senate approval constitutional? Is making recess appointments when the senate is not on recess constitutional?

The constitution is merely a speed bump to this megalomaniacal man child.

GrassMudHorsey on February 6, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Why does this guy get a forum on any media?

kirkill on February 6, 2012 at 11:32 AM

it doesn;t make health care affordable for anyone except the government which can just steal more money or print it.

darwin on February 6, 2012 at 11:31 AM

And, that’s a feature for them, not a bug.

Government mandates make insurance more expensive. Period. This is all by design so single payer can be ushered in when the country begs to be relieved of the ever-increasing cost of health insurance due to more and more onerous government mandates.

totherightofthem on February 6, 2012 at 11:33 AM

Remind me… why is this guy referred to as “the Reverend”?

Mr. Prodigy on February 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM

IMHO, one more reason why neither Al Sharpton nor Jesse Jackson Sr. should ever be referred to as “Reverend”.

Flora Duh on February 6, 2012 at 11:33 AM

The stuff that Rev. Poverty/Publicity Pimp says may seem vague, but in reality is meaningless… much.

ghostwalker1 on February 6, 2012 at 11:33 AM

If Congress passed a LAW specifically stating that institutions receiving federal money had to provide insurance that covers Birth Control or Hospitals were required to provide abortions, then there would be very little recourse for the church. Think Polygamy or animal sacrifice.

Hyde amendment?

Vince on February 6, 2012 at 11:34 AM

We need a law that mandates that everyone, including Jews and Muslims, pay for pork meals for Americans. Given the amount of protein contained in such food products, such health benefits will be rationally related to a legitimate governmental purpose and would be in keeping with the Obama Administration’s logic.

blammm on February 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM

who could forget in Genesis – “thou shalt pay for contraception if thine Savior in mom jeans sayeth so”

DHChron on February 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Why does this guy get a forum on any media?

kirkill on February 6, 2012 at 11:32 AM

Call me cynical, but I have a feeling it has a little something to do with pigmentation and political party affiliation.

Flora Duh on February 6, 2012 at 11:35 AM

@CycloneCDB

Of course – being pro-choice would mean, as a matter of fact, they are not Catholic. But who cares about facts these days?

No kiddin’- have you checked the latest made up unemployment and inflation figures? Or how about the fable that earflaps mcDowngrade is “smart”? Or that the first lady is “attractive”? Or that the US AG didn’t murder people?

Let’s move!

GrassMudHorsey on February 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM

Obama ever done something along these lines with the Muslim religion?

albill on February 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM

This is all by design so single payer can be ushered in when the country begs to be relieved of the ever-increasing cost of health insurance due to more and more onerous government mandates.

totherightofthem on February 6, 2012 at 11:33 AM

I wonder when people will figure out that the answer to problems created by government in the first place isn’t more government.

darwin on February 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM

All part of the plan people.

Just another pretext to usher in single payer.

1. Offer incentives for companies to drop their insurance through Obamacare.

2. Force regulations on to the Catholic church knowing they will stop offering insurance.

3. Secretly pray(oops, religion) that the mandate gets struck down by SCOTUS.

Single payer is the ultimate goal. This is simply how you do it. Create a crisis and never let that crisis go to waist.

WisRich on February 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM

s/b waste

WisRich on February 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM

The catholic church’s view on abortion is based in her faith and therefore arbitrary and incongruent with reality however, it does not mean she should be made to operate as BO sees fit.

Just like I would defend the rights of the golfers at Augusta to have their all male golf club, I’d do the same for the catholics and their no-fund-abortion club. Just like Sharpton, the church doesn’t have to be logically consistent or even intellectually honest in its thinking in order to possess the right to act in her own best interest.

beselfish on February 6, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Shut yer piehole, Sharpie!

Bishop on February 6, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Ok…I’m laughing!

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2012 at 11:38 AM

I think a portion of the statement the Archdiocese of Washington (DC) sent out sums this up pretty well….

Until now, no federal law has required anyone to purchase, sell, sponsor, or be covered by a private health plan that violates his or her conscience. Under the HHS edict, however, virtually all Catholic charitable organizations, hospitals, schools, colleges and universities that want to provide for the needs of their employees and students in a manner consistent with Catholic moral teachings will be placed in the untenable position of having to choose between violating the law and violating their conscience.

Religious liberty is the most cherished and fundamental of American freedoms. As Thomas Jefferson observed in 1809, “No provision in our Constitution ought to be dearer to man than that which protects the rights of conscience against the enterprises of the civil authority.”

This heavy-handed attack on the Constitution is clearly pandering to the culture of death crowd who are reliable Dem votes so long as you don’t offend them by letting people who consider abortion a sin to live according to that morality.

Happy Nomad on February 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM

There is another alternative – not to take government money. This also begs the question, does government have the right to force hospitals to care for anybody ? Clearly in practice they do – but is that even constitutional ?

alQemist on February 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM
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It is a battle of the shake down artists. Right now as some Cardinal or Bishop sends a little boy for a towel and as he prepares to wipe away the santorum, thinks "how many divisions does Obama have."

borntoraisehogs on February 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM

The Rev. Race Pimp proving once again why affirmative action is such a failure.

Raquel Pinkbullet on February 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM

I wonder when people will figure out that the answer to problems created by government in the first place isn’t more government.

darwin on February 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM

You and me both. I weep for the future.

totherightofthem on February 6, 2012 at 11:40 AM

If they can do that. I would like to officially ask to stop funding for ALL Planned Parenthood areas. I would also like to ask the courts to remove the Hyde amendment from law, since it obviously doesn’t matter anyway.

mbquinn on February 6, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Didn’t you the one was pope also?

rubberneck on February 6, 2012 at 11:40 AM

I don’t think Obama would be too upset if Catholic hospitals and charities decided to shut down. That’s just more opportunity for the government to “solve” a problem.

hawksruleva on February 6, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Pro choice catholics are not catholic.

Thicklugdonkey on February 6, 2012 at 11:41 AM

As a Catholic, I say to Al: RESIST WE MUCH!

No jug eared Jar-Jar of a President is going to dictate Catholic doctrine.

wildcat72 on February 6, 2012 at 11:41 AM

In the interest of separation of church and state, perhaps we could persuade Rev. Poverty/Publicity Pimp to stop shilling for the White House…

ghostwalker1 on February 6, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Single payer is the ultimate goal. This is simply how you do it. Create a crisis and never let that crisis go to waist.

WisRich on February 6, 2012 at 11:36 AM

And the simple way to defeat it is to just have the states ignore ObamaCare. In fact, the sooner the states start asserting themselves and ignore the dictates of the Food Stamp King the sooner this nightmare will end.

darwin on February 6, 2012 at 11:42 AM

totherightofthem on February 6, 2012 at 11:28 AM

I realized that wrote ‘Sharpley’ rather than ‘Brawley’.

Drat, middle-age!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 6, 2012 at 11:43 AM

In honor of the 101 anniversary of Ronald Reagan’s (and my mom’s) birth, I think the former President left a message for Mr. Sharpton.

“Concentrated power has always been the enemy of liberty” and “Man is not free unless government is limited.”

Flora Duh on February 6, 2012 at 11:44 AM

The “if they don’t like it, they shouldn’t take government money” argument doesn’t work here. Because the only government money being received by these hospitals is payment for the indigent who they treat. And hospitals are mandated by law to provide care for the indigent. They can’t opt out. So Catholic hospitals have no choice to simply opt out of receiving government money.

Shump on February 6, 2012 at 11:44 AM

As a Catholic, I say to Al: RESIST WE MUCH!

No jug eared Jar-Jar of a President is going to dictate Catholic doctrine.

wildcat72 on February 6, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Exactly, stop providing health care and let the states and their hospitals pick up the tab for indigent care.

Let them choke on that bill, they’ll rescind this quicker than Bammy slices into the woods.

NoDonkey on February 6, 2012 at 11:45 AM

Why they give him a show just boggles the mind

Kudos to MJ and mika for not taking that crap

cmsinaz on February 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Raquel Pinkbullet on February 6, 2012 at 11:39 AM –
Affirmative action is an oxymoron; sort of like Rev. Al.

ghostwalker1 on February 6, 2012 at 11:46 AM

Also, it just hit me like a hammer in the face… Obama has already won!

Because here we are, supposedly a site full of conservatives, debating whether or not the government should be able to mandate Catholic organizations to provide a certain type of health insurance coverage. In doing so, we’ve already ceded to the notion that the government should be able to mandate ANYTHING about health insurance.

Religious grounds should not even have to enter into it. The federal government has no business telling anyone — an employer, an insurance company, a hospital, anyone — what type of coverage they have to provide and to whom. It’s none of the federal government’s business. That’s why ObamaCare needs to be repealed.

This may, in fact, be a very clever strategy on Obama’s part. By diverting the discussion to whether or not religious institutions can be forced to offer certain types of coverage, he’s distracted us all from the debate of whether they government can force ANYONE to offer certain types of coverage.

Shump on February 6, 2012 at 11:47 AM

This is why Republicans must stop ripping each other apart and remember what it is that must be accomplished in November.

tbrickert on February 6, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Flora Duh on February 6, 2012 at 11:44 AM

My late grandfather’s 101st would have been yesterday.
He was an azz-but an azz who voted GOP.

annoyinglittletwerp on February 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM

And the simple way to defeat it is to just have the states ignore ObamaCare. In fact, the sooner the states start asserting themselves and ignore the dictates of the Food Stamp King the sooner this nightmare will end.

darwin on February 6, 2012 at 11:42 AM

I agree, but just watch what these Socialist can do with the full force of the Federal Government behind them.

Not only will they force the taxes onto the individuals from those states, but they will also withhold funds for programs not related to Obamacare. Or at least weren’t related until Obamacare was passed.

WisRich on February 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM

If Congress passed a LAW specifically stating that institutions receiving federal money had to provide insurance that covers Birth Control or Hospitals were required to provide abortions, then there would be very little recourse for the church.

Critic2029 on February 6, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Oh, believe me, the Catholic Church has a recourse, and they’ve already announced it long ago. If forced to provide health insurance that covers sterilization, contraception, and abortifacients, they will stop providing health coverage to over 1 million employees and pay the fines instead. If forced to provide abortions they will shut down their hospitals and health care facilities. That’s over 600 hospitals providing 15% of patient treatment in the country. Over 13 million emergency room visits and 86 million. That’s the social consequences of this president’s assault on the Constitution.

Trafalgar on February 6, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Al Sharpton isn’t the brightest bulb. Especially when talking outside his specialty of race-baiting.

As for The Obamassiah and Her Highness of Health Care, they’re trying to bluster and bluff in order to get their way. They really haven’t a clue as to how badly they’ve stepped in it. “The Smartest Man in the World” obviously isn’t.

GarandFan on February 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Why doesn’t the Catholic Church stop whining and take action; many, many so-called Catholics supported Obama for President last time and even Notre Dame fell for the ‘hope and change’ myth . . . the hypocrisy of the Catholic Church is only rivaled by the hypocrisy of American Jews who support the Democrat Party/Obama. If the Catholic Church were consistent, the Republican Party wouldn’t have such a hard time putting forward someone like Rick Santorum INSTEAD of Democrat Romney.

Pragmatic on February 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Huh?

I don’t even know what the heck Sharpton is arguing. My brain hurts just from reading it. Plus I am pretty certain my IQ just dropped 20 points as a result.

Marcus Traianus on February 6, 2012 at 11:21 AM

Exactly! Sharpton’s statements are not even coherent. Resist we much?

cicerone on February 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM

This is why Republicans must stop ripping each other apart and remember what it is that must be accomplished in November.

tbrickert on February 6, 2012 at 11:47 AM

because Romney is so firmly pro-life and stuff

DHChron on February 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM

If we are going to have a separation of church and state, we’re going to have a separation of church and state. Whether I would personally agree with the decision or not, the question is do I have a right to make that law?

If there were such a thing as separation of church and state in the Constitution, the race hustler still wouldn’t have a leg to stand on. However, that’s a made-up term liberals use to try and separate church from society in general.

Religious liberty is the most cherished and fundamental of American freedoms. As Thomas Jefferson observed in 1809, “No provision in our Constitution ought to be dearer to man than that which protects the rights of conscience against the enterprises of the civil authority.”

Not to liberals

This is a continuation of the Marxist attack on Christianity. He thinks that he deserves another four years. It will be interesting to see if the idiots who elected him last time actually think so.

cajunpatriot on February 6, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Just when you think the GOP is about to blow it…Along comes Obama, and his merry band of idiot leftest, to save the day.

I can only hope Obama holds fast to this idiotic policy and hand not only the catholic vote to the GOP, but also a few important swing states. Remember Obama is super duper smart…..LOL!

William Eaton on February 6, 2012 at 11:53 AM

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