Is Paul double-dipping on reimbursements?

posted at 2:10 pm on February 6, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

When members of Congress travel back and forth from Washington DC to their home districts, taxpayers reimburse the travel.  When presidential candidates travel, the campaign reimburses their travel.  What happens when a member of Congress is also a presidential candidate?  For Ron Paul, it appears that he gets two reimbursements for the same travel, according to an investigation by Roll Call:

Rep. Ron Paul appears to have been paid twice for flights between Washington, D.C., and his Congressional district, receiving reimbursement from taxpayers and also from a network of political and nonprofit organizations he controlled, according to public records and documents obtained by Roll Call.

Roll Call identified eight flights for which the Texas Republican, a GOP presidential candidate and leading champion of smaller government, was reimbursed twice for the same trip. Roll Call also found dozens more instances of duplicate payments for travel from 1999 to 2009, totaling thousands of dollars’ worth of excess payments, but the evidence in those cases is not as complete.

The campaign denies this, although in part by offering a non-sequitur:

Benton said those flights “may appear to show duplicative reimbursements because Congressman Paul’s wife or a campaign staffer traveled with him. In such instances, the U.S. House would reimburse Congressman Paul’s travel to D.C. for Congressional business, while his campaign or political action committee would reimburse his traveling companion’s ticket.” But Benton declined to discuss any of the trips in detail, arguing that the office does not have records for many of the years in question and that Roll Call was using “stolen” credit card records as the basis for the story.

What would “stolen credit cards” have to do with a story about double-dipping on reimbursements?  They did get records from American Express about the corporate credit card for Paul’s firm, and the records reviewed by Roll Call show Rep. Paul as the listed traveler in matching transactions:

The available records name Paul as the traveler in most cases. In other cases in which tickets were purchased for Paul’s wife, Carol, or for staffers, those tickets — identifiable by distinct prices, dates and flight paths — were reimbursed separately. In one case, Paul used a company credit card in his name to buy a ticket for his then-deputy chief of staff; Paul was then reimbursed by his Congressional office and also by his campaign.

Roll Call obtained copies of credit card statements for a corporate American Express card assigned to Ron Paul & Associates Inc. on which many flights were purchased. The flight details on those statements matched payment records filed to the Federal Election Commission and office expenses itemized in quarterly Congressional disbursement statements published by the Chief Administrative Officer of the House.

For example, on March 24, 2003, Paul purchased a round-trip flight from Washington, D.C., to Houston for $651.50. Several weeks later, filings with the FEC show, the Committee to Re-Elect Ron Paul paid $651.50 for the Continental Airlines ticket. Congressional expenditure records show Paul also was reimbursed $651.50 by taxpayers for the same flight.

Paul filed articles of dissolution for Ron Paul & Associates Inc. in 2001 with the Texas secretary of state, but the company’s corporate credit card was used for years afterward, the records show.

So the card was stolen, but the thief was kind enough to keep booking travel for Rep. Paul? Er … riiiiiiiiight. [See update below.]

If Roll Call’s investigation bears out, then this raises a few questions.  Exactly where did the money go from the duplicate reimbursements?  Will the FEC and the House Ethics Committee open their own investigation into Paul’s activities?  For that matter, if Paul himself was reimbursed, that might have implications for the IRS as well.

I’ll guess that Paul’s office and campaign will shortly prepare amended disclosures for the trips in question — and write a few checks to cover the funds, too.

Update: A few commenters have pointed out that Benton (who is a good guy, BTW) meant that the records were stolen, not the card.  Which is even less applicable to a defense.


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Exactly where did the money go from the duplicate reimbursements

Silver and gold, silver and gold…

Gatsu on February 6, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Plead senility, I’d buy that one.

NoDonkey on February 6, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Bishop…he is the financial expert!

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Uh oh! The paulbots heads explode…look out!

tinkerthinker on February 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM

But we have to get the spending under control, right Dr. Paul?

Doughboy on February 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM

My guess is that Roll Call got the scoop from Willard’s opposition research team. Of course.

I think Willard wants them to lay off Gingrich for a while, and step it up against the other two guys.

Emperor Norton on February 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

I’m not even a Ron Paul supporter at all and there’s no way that I believe that this was intentional on the part of Ron Paul or that he was even aware that it was going on.

cynccook on February 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

He never read those credit card statements and disavows them…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on February 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Bishop…he is the financial expert!

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2012 at 2:14 PM

missed it for ya.

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Well, what response do you Paulbots have for this?

listens2glenn on February 6, 2012 at 2:16 PM

My guess is that Roll Call got the scoop from Willard’s opposition research team. Of course.

I think Willard wants them to lay off Gingrich for a while, and step it up against the other two guys.

Emperor Norton on February 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

(Well, as long as we’re spamming.)

Because Paul is Romney’s biggest threat.

hawkdriver on February 6, 2012 at 2:17 PM

He never read those credit card statements and disavows them…

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on February 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

ROTFLMBO!

annoyinglittletwerp on February 6, 2012 at 2:17 PM

Honesty, a legal requirement for the masses. The elites? Not so much.

astonerii on February 6, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Is this why he needs to gut the military? So he can double dip on his junkets?

hawkdriver on February 6, 2012 at 2:18 PM

um, ed, he isnt saying the credit card was stolen, he is saying the records are stolen. got it? not records of a stolen credit card but “stolen credit card records”. he is accusing whoever is reporting this story of stealing the records. okay? got it?

chasdal on February 6, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Willard’s own Solyndra problem to break soon.

The field is horrific.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2012 at 2:22 PM

Is this why he needs to gut the military? So he can double dip on his junkets?
hawkdriver on February 6, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Yep. The military that already spends more than all of the other militaries in the world combined. Thank god the neoconservative wing of the GOP has idiots like you to keep on supporting establishment candidates. Spartan lifestyle is best lifestyle!

Lord on February 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Well, what response do you Paulbots have for this?

listens2glenn

Just go vote for McCain 2.0 already, I shall laugh my butt out when He don’t repeal ObamaCare

Sams88 on February 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Go Team Santorum!!!

multiuseless on February 6, 2012 at 2:25 PM

The Paulbots claim is hilarious.

Dolebots, Bushbots, McCainbots, and Romneybots are clearly far superior. Higher spending, higher deficits, and individual mandates for all!

Lord on February 6, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Provided Nobody look at Romney phony conviction … look at Ron Paul pennies and Gingrich Wifes … don’t look at RomneyCare, Abortion, or Gun ban.

Sams88 on February 6, 2012 at 2:26 PM

It reminds me of a certain first lady’s tripe to Africa with her daughters listed as senior consultants…

… It’s as if they take a special class for this kind of stuff when first moving to Washington, D.C.

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2012 at 2:27 PM

He can’t remember publishing racist newsletters, either.

karenhasfreedom on February 6, 2012 at 2:27 PM

The Paulbots claim is hilarious.

Dolebots, Bushbots, McCainbots, and Romneybots are clearly far superior. Higher spending, higher deficits, and individual mandates for all!

Lord

May the Mandate by with you.

Sams88 on February 6, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Yep. The military that already spends more than all of the other militaries in the world combined. Thank god the neoconservative wing of the GOP has idiots like you to keep on supporting establishment candidates. Spartan lifestyle is best lifestyle!

Lord on February 6, 2012 at 2:23 PM

First, I try not to name call. I’ll look past it this time. Second, my concern with the military has nothing to with being a “NEOCON”. Which really, is a pejorative you guys invented to sum up wild conspiracy notions you never seen to be able to fully explain to anyones satisfaction. My concern with the military has to do with my affiliation with it.

Be civil. Save the name calling. And I’ll always try to return in kind.

hawkdriver on February 6, 2012 at 2:29 PM

I’m assuming his duplicative reimbursements won’t be part of his $1T spending cut…

Darksean on February 6, 2012 at 2:30 PM

The Fed made him do it.

a capella on February 6, 2012 at 2:30 PM

This article is just as bad as the original. It’s more likely a mistake then actual fraud. Not Ed’s best work…

ArkyDore on February 6, 2012 at 2:30 PM

This reminds me, I’m very uneasy with Ru’s cute dodge on his income tax returns in one of the debates. Recall he claimed he would be embarrassed because he didn’t have income comparable to Newt or Mitt.

Just because the amounts are not as impressive doesn’t mean there’s not something smelly in there.

slickwillie2001 on February 6, 2012 at 2:31 PM

It just shows that if you follow principles and not people, you won’t be deceived or let down. Conservatism for the win…again.

search4truth on February 6, 2012 at 2:32 PM

slickwillie2001 on February 6, 2012 at 2:31 PM

You might have something there.

hawkdriver on February 6, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Speaking of leeches and especially of subversive ‘leaders’ who deserve to spontaneously combust.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2012 at 2:33 PM

This is a stupid as stealing the sugar packets from a restaurant.

Dumb, Dumb, Dumb…

If it is incompetence, how could one trust Paul with anything larger?

If it isn’t incompetence, then he’s done.

(But it’s always good to see that the same “journalists” who could find out anything about Obama, could do such detailed investigative work on Republicans.)

CrazyGene on February 6, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Recall he claimed he would be embarrassed because he didn’t have income comparable to Newt or Mitt.Just because the amounts are not as impressive doesn’t mean there’s not something smelly in there.

slickwillie2001 on February 6, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Wasn’t he raking in close to a million a year off the newsletters he signed but didn’t read?

a capella on February 6, 2012 at 2:34 PM

I’m not even a Ron Paul supporter at all and there’s no way that I believe that this was intentional on the part of Ron Paul or that he was even aware that it was going on.

cynccook on February 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Of course not and he didn’t know what was in those newsletters either.

Is there anything Dr. Paul does know?

I wouldn’t trust him with a band-aid at this point.

NoDonkey on February 6, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Free Bananas?

batterup on February 6, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Well, what response do you Paulbots have for this?

listens2glenn on February 6, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Given Paul’s history, I’m guessing the claim is that this is all some sort of conspiracy because Paul was becoming far too successful for establishment Republicans. So they called up some GOP black ops group with the ability to hack into credit card company computers and make it look like Paul is a double dipper. After all, we hear reports about customer databases getting hacked all the time. What if instead of taking information, they were planting false data on Paul?

Happy Nomad on February 6, 2012 at 2:36 PM

I’ll respond for the Paul supporters…I think I’ve got it down now.

This is just another attempt by the neo-con establishment to destroy Paul because they are against liberty and freedom and obviously have never read the constitution. Now excuse me while I iron out my tin-foil hat.

The Notorious G.O.P on February 6, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Where is Spathi…?

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2012 at 2:37 PM

This is all part of the GAG Rule: Government Accounting Gimmickry.

Congress Critters and Senator Slugs do not know how to manage money or a budget. This is why the need to be Governors before ever attempting to run of POTUS. MHO

That being said, OMG, this does not look good for Paul. I am sorry Paulbots, but if your guy is double dipping how can he be trusted to balance budgets and get rid of deficits? He wants the Fed audited? How about he audited his own records and record keeping.

Geezzz

uhangtight on February 6, 2012 at 2:38 PM

This one’s a coin flip:

50% odds – Corruption

50% odds – Alzheimers

Step up….place your bets….one line please!!

Tim_CA on February 6, 2012 at 2:39 PM

I believe that this was intentional on the part of Ron Paul or that he was even aware that it was going on.

cynccook on February 6, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Just like those pesky newsletter he had nothing to do with, until it was shown that, ummmm – yes he did.

catmman on February 6, 2012 at 2:39 PM

The “o” in Roll Call kind of looks like an eye. And the capital building in the logo looks kind of like a triangle! ILLUMANIT CONTROLLED WEBSITE!!!!!ELEVINITY!!!!

DethMetalCookieMonst on February 6, 2012 at 2:39 PM

ed, your hate and fear of Ron Paul is palpable….

standupandbecounted on February 6, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Its one of three things as far as I can tell.
Incompetence (could be coupled with his age and his inability to manage a campaign), which should discourage people from supporting him.
Lying (he knows but lets it go on) which immediately disqualifies him in my book (but he could still get Geithners job).
Conspiracy: Insert crazy theory here

nobar on February 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Stop talking about Dr. Paul like that neocons.

EnochCain on February 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM

ed, your hate for and fear of Ron Paul is palpable.

standupandbecounted on February 6, 2012 at 2:40 PM

This article is just as bad as the original. It’s more likely a mistake then actual fraud. Not Ed’s best work…

ArkyDore on February 6, 2012 at 2:30 PM

I’m willing to give some benefit of the doubt but there is a whole system in place with very clear reporting requirements. It could be sloppy book keeping but that doesn’t make things much better because the whole point of the process is for transparency.

Happy Nomad on February 6, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Well, what response do you Paulbots have for this?

listens2glenn on February 6, 2012 at 2:16 PM

“You’re just a g-d@&! Consitution hating, Zionist, tool of the Illuminati you g-D@$! fascist!”- Paultard

catmman on February 6, 2012 at 2:41 PM

So the card was stolen, but the thief was kind enough to keep booking travel for Rep. Paul? Er … riiiiiiiiight.

Who claimed the card was stolen? I only see where someone said that credit card records used for the report were stolen.

Mark1971 on February 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM

This one’s a coin flip:

50% odds – Corruption

50% odds – Alzheimers

Step up….place your bets….one line please!!

Tim_CA on February 6, 2012 at 2:39 PM

Do you completely dismis the possibility of a smear?

Mangy Scot on February 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Moneybomb.

BKeyser on February 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Now excuse me while I iron out my tin-foil hat.

The Notorious G.O.P on February 6, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Don’t do it! All the power is in the wrinkles. If you iron it out, you’ll just look silly! :0

Happy Nomad on February 6, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Be civil. Save the name calling. And I’ll always try to return in kind.

hawkdriver on February 6, 2012 at 2:29 PM

You are kinder than I am. I would have beat him over his ignorant head with the fact that we outspend the rest of the world on our military in the naive belief that “peace through strength” actually works and for the additional reason that, since WW2, most of Europe has zero force projection because we do the job for them.

Where do the world’s eyes turn when there is a disaster? To the US military, because we are the only organization on the entire planet that can get it done, or is even willing to spend the money required to try.

Mord on February 6, 2012 at 2:43 PM

To deflect against the growing scandal…

… Ron Paul called a press conference which he attended wearing dirty pajamas, a torn robe, and a single slipper.

/

Seven Percent Solution on February 6, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Do you completely dismis the possibility of a smear?

Mangy Scot on February 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Yes.

Tim_CA on February 6, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Update: A few commenters have pointed out that Benton (who is a good guy, BTW) meant that the records were stolen, not the card. Which is even less applicable to a defense.

Is it? The implied claim would be that since the records were stolen they come from an unreliable source and may either be manipulated or not accurate.

smorpheus on February 6, 2012 at 2:44 PM

50% odds – Corruption

50% odds – Alzheimers

Step up… place your bets… one line please!!

Tim_CA on February 6, 2012 at 2:39 PM

My mother suffers from Alzheimer’s Disease. It’s not something I’d joke about but have at it. Not all elderly people get AD, just so you know:

Of all Americans over the age of 65, one out of every eight have Alzheimer’s. The Mayo Clinic states that the rate of Alzheimer’s is under 5 percent for individuals between the ages of 65 and 74; however, the rate climbs to nearly 50 percent for those age 85 and older…

Fallon on February 6, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Fortunately, Ron Paul is fiscal conservative. That means if he steals anything, he will steal a lot less–and pass the savings along to the taxpayers.

Emperor Norton on February 6, 2012 at 2:46 PM

You can’t make an omelette without double dipping.

Seth Halpern on February 6, 2012 at 2:46 PM

hawkdriver on February 6, 2012 at 2:29 PM

+1 (at least).

VERY well said!

The Honey Badger on February 6, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Well, what response do you Paulbots have for this?

listens2glenn on February 6, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Obviously a false-flag Mossad operation.

slickwillie2001 on February 6, 2012 at 2:46 PM

If it was Gold instead of money Ron Paul would have got it right !

Damn the Fed !

/sarc

William Amos on February 6, 2012 at 2:47 PM

“Roll Call” is “Llacroll” spelled backwords. Llacroll is a demon that the neocons and the liberalbots worship at the Bohemian Grove!!! Roll Call is part of Build-a-Bear!!!!

DethMetalCookieMonst on February 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Do you completely dismis the possibility of a smear?

Mangy Scot on February 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM

yep

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on February 6, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Do you completely dismis the possibility of a smear?

Mangy Scot on February 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Smear by whom? And why?

I’ll agree with you that there are other logical explanations than dementia or corruption BUT I see no evidence that this is a smear.

It could just be sloppy records but that is bad enough and serious enough that some scrutiny is required. After all, this isn’t just one trip where it appears there was double payments. It is stuff like this that has the potential of sending politicians to jail (as in the House bank scandal). We should not rush to judgement but we shouldn’t call it a smear and ignore it either.

Ron Paul has been in Congress for enough years that there really isn’t much of an excuse for this kind of “mistake.” After nearly 24 years of official and campaign travel, I’m pretty sure he knows the rules better than the rest of us.

Happy Nomad on February 6, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Do you completely dismis the possibility of a smear?

Mangy Scot on February 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Of course not, but remember, everyone believes the MSM until they start trash talking about THEIR candidate. So Paul supporters love it when Gingrich is slammed by the MSM (which we all purport not to believe) and then the gnashing and wailing of teeth starts when they go after Paul.

No real sympathy here.

Doomberg on February 6, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Way to jump the gun and comment on “Stolen Credit Cards” when it obviously is followed up by “records.” Then once caught don’t update the article or it’s inline comments, just throw an update at the end. This is small beans, but will still be interesting to see a response from the campaign. If a true accounting error and checks are cut to make it right then no big deal.

deuce on February 6, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Fallon on February 6, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Sorry about your mom – mine lived til 94 and her dementia was quite advanced in her later years.

Never stopped me from loving her….I miss her daily. Her confusion, while undeniably tragic, was often endearing and quite amusing….Like the time she was having a conversation with a chef on the TV (she thought it was her doctor – you see, he was dressed in white).

No disrespect intended, but mom the year she died, made a hell of a lot more sense than your candidate.

Tim_CA on February 6, 2012 at 2:53 PM

If a true accounting error and checks are cut to make it right then no big deal.

deuce on February 6, 2012 at 2:50 PM

I’d end up in jail, or at least in front of a judge over something like that. No wonder so many government employees do not pay their taxes or fines. Worst thing that happens is if they are called on it they can make it up on par!

astonerii on February 6, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Paultard Worldview:

Wherein 9/11 was a joint Mossad/CIA controlled explosion of the Twin Towers and the images of the airliners impacting the buildings was projected by laser holograms = reality.

Herr Doktor signing, writing, editing and publishing a racist, anti-semitic, homophobic, conspiracist paranoia rag and profiting from it = poppycock.

catmman on February 6, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Do you completely dismis the possibility of a smear?

Mangy Scot on February 6, 2012 at 2:42 PM

How is it a smear ? Its a smear if the charge is phoney. But if the records show Ron Paul did double dip then its a fair charge to make against a candidate.

Ron Paul can easily release this info to the press to dismiss it. But it sounds like he is trying to blow it off as not a big deal which makes him a hypocrite.

William Amos on February 6, 2012 at 2:54 PM

“Roll Call” is “Llacroll” spelled backwords. Llacroll is a demon that the neocons and the liberalbots worship at the Bohemian Grove!!! Roll Call is part of Build-a-Bear!!!!

DethMetalCookieMonst on February 6, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Um, Roll Call is “Llacllor” spelled backwards, which is a lovely mostly peaceful woodland creature known to take wicked revenge on tsnoMeikooClateMhteD demons when they relish and delight in schadenfreude.

Fallon on February 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Paul was too busy cutting spending to pay attention to his own, uh, double dipping…

Just look at his record… Now, oh, where’s that list of Ron Paul led gov’t spending cuts again..?

shinty on February 6, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Speaking of leeches and especially of subversive ‘leaders’ who deserve to spontaneously combust.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2012 at 2:33 PM

This might be another one. Makes Issa’s last hearing a little easier to understand.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/02/republican_sons_a_bitches_going_soft_on_gunwalking_says_blogger.php

a capella on February 6, 2012 at 2:58 PM

If a true accounting error and checks are cut to make it right then no big deal.

deuce on February 6, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Years of records and no accounting “errors” discovered until now? That is a big deal. If true, the campaign will have to make a much more complete explanation than they have.

This is not something that a public official should be able to write a check with “my bad” annotated in for line. Sadly I know it happens all the time in Congress but there is a group of you that want us to just ignore this whole thing. If Paul is a racist homophobe and a criminal, it might be nice to know sooner rather than later if we really should be considering him for high public office or a place at the convention.

Happy Nomad on February 6, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Um, Roll Call is “Llacllor” spelled backwards, which is a lovely mostly peaceful woodland creature known to take wicked revenge on tsnoMeikooClateMhteD demons when they relish and delight in schadenfreude.

Fallon on February 6, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Llacllor is not registered in my demons and demigods handbooks. What version are you using?

astonerii on February 6, 2012 at 2:58 PM

I’d end up in jail, or at least in front of a judge over something like that. No wonder so many government employees do not pay their taxes or fines. Worst thing that happens is if they are called on it they can make it up on par!

astonerii on February 6, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Anybody would if it could be proven the double reimbursement was intentional. If that can’t be proven and the man cuts checks to make it right what more do you want? If you accidentally screw up on your taxes does the IRS send you to jail or does the IRS send you a bill for the difference? Intent comes into play

deuce on February 6, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Anybody would if it could be proven the double reimbursement was intentional. If that can’t be proven and the man cuts checks to make it right what more do you want? If you accidentally screw up on your taxes does the IRS send you to jail or does the IRS send you a bill for the difference? Intent comes into play

deuce on February 6, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Depends on the value amount. If I accidentally mess up on my taxes, I get fined interest and late fees that usually make the mess in my favor look like flakes of a penny. If Ron Paul or Timmy “turbo tax” Geithner does it, he pays what he owed, not a penny more. If I say I will not pay the back fees and interest, do you think they will just let me go on with my life?

astonerii on February 6, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Once, and next, ‘leader’ of the House.

Schadenfreude on February 6, 2012 at 3:03 PM

No disrespect intended, but mom the year she died, made a hell of a lot more sense than your candidate.

Tim_CA on February 6, 2012 at 2:53 PM

He’s not my candidate. I don’t like any of the current crop. I’m an Etch A Sketch advocate. I’d like to turn the slate over, shake it and start over again.

I am getting tired of the mud slinging and smears. If Paul is double dipping, he or whoever is guilty will hopefully be held accountable.

He seems pretty sharp to me. I don’t think I’d accuse him of having dementia unless you are an expert in that field and have noticed some subtle signs that others have missed.

I’m not an expert, but he doesn’t behave like any of the others, some much younger than Paul, in my mom’s Alzheimer’s unit. That’s all.

Fallon on February 6, 2012 at 3:03 PM

This reminds me, I’m very uneasy with Ru’s cute dodge on his income tax returns in one of the debates. Recall he claimed he would be embarrassed because he didn’t have income comparable to Newt or Mitt.

Just because the amounts are not as impressive doesn’t mean there’s not something smelly in there.

slickwillie2001 on February 6, 2012 at 2:31 PM

oh yeah… i remember that moment, though i forgot about it until now. i didn’t like that response at all, it was a really lame attempt to dodge the question.

and of course, the racist newsletters that paul claims he didn’t know about. and now this duplicate payment problem, which paul claims was just an accident or something. and then there are his wacky policies of course!! what a loser this guy is, he is just adding comic relief to this election.

Sachiko on February 6, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Constitution.

BKeyser on February 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Llacllor is not registered in my demons and demigods handbooks. What version are you using?

astonerii on February 6, 2012 at 2:58 PM

It’s a lovely mostly peaceful woodland creature, not a demon at all. It does take revenge on demons if they are found to be extra nasty. Did you find tsnoMeikooClateMhteD in your book? I don’t really dabble in the demonology. That stuff creeps me out.

Fallon on February 6, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Halp Us Ron Paul wee r stuk heer in Amerika.

Logboy on February 6, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Do as i say .Not as i do.

logman1 on February 6, 2012 at 3:09 PM

If EVER there was a double dipsh*t, it’s Paul.

tree hugging sister on February 6, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Do you completely dismis the possibility of a smear?

You can’t smear the clinically insane.

Your Mamma loves me on February 6, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Fallon on February 6, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Mostly a D&D joke. Haven’t played in decades.

astonerii on February 6, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Ron Paul is just like the others.

CoolChange80 on February 6, 2012 at 3:14 PM

You people smear the dear Dr. Paul any chanc you get.

EnochCain on February 6, 2012 at 3:15 PM

This reminds me, I’m very uneasy with Ru’s cute dodge on his income tax returns in one of the debates. Recall he claimed he would be embarrassed because he didn’t have income comparable to Newt or Mitt.

Just because the amounts are not as impressive doesn’t mean there’s not something smelly in there.

slickwillie2001 on February 6, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Agreed. I would like to see how many political donations come from organizations with nefarious purposes. Of course, Ron Paul said giving back that money would be “pandering.”

Logboy on February 6, 2012 at 3:16 PM

The ganja made him do it.

♫♪ Trying to remember, his mind’s in a blender…♪♫

viking01 on February 6, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Fallon on February 6, 2012 at 3:03 PM

k

(hang in there buddy)

Tim_CA on February 6, 2012 at 3:20 PM

They did get records from American Express about the corporate credit card for Paul’s firm,

No they didn’t, and they couldn’t have, even if they wanted to. Amex doesn’t just give up credit card records because a reporter wants to see them.

Roll Call obtained copies of credit card statements for a corporate American Express card assigned to Ron Paul & Associates Inc. on which many flights were purchased. The flight details on those statements matched payment records filed to the Federal Election Commission and office expenses itemized in quarterly Congressional disbursement statements published by the Chief Administrative Officer of the House.

Roll Call obtained copies of credit card statement. Statements. Like, you know, what you keep in a file in your desk?

The records Roll Call obtained were kept in a desk somewhere in Texas:

Benton also argued “Roll Call did not provide Congressman Paul’s campaign with copies of the credit card receipts it relied on in writing this article. Those records, if authentic, apparently were stolen from Congressman Paul’s business office in Texas.

Why do I think Benton is telling the truth? Well this, for starters:

The credit card statements reviewed by Roll Call include handwritten notations that indicate several organizations — Paul’s campaign, Liberty Political Action Committee (“Liberty PAC”), the Foundation for Rational Economics and Education and another nonprofit called the Liberty Committee — would pay for many of the flights.

Handwritten notations. You know, like the stuff you keep in your desk, and unlike the stuff you get from Amex.

This is a serious charge against Ron Paul. It deserves more serious reporting. Ed, you snapped at a commenter earlier today for not reading thoroughly before commenting. What’s your excuse?

Mr. Arkadin on February 6, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Was it Coach or Business class ?

FlaMurph on February 6, 2012 at 3:23 PM

So the claim is %15,000 worth of double dipping over 10 years? For a man who’s ran for President AND been a member of Congress over that period of time. How many flights do you think he’s taken? According to the article, thousands. One of the discrepencies they found was for $600 and some change. So to get to $15,000 he’d have had to double dip on (napkin math) what 35-40 flights? Over a decade. And that’s assuming that some of those tickets aren’t for other passengers that were accompanying him.

That’s certainly not as bad as, I dunno, supporting an individual healthcare mandate, setting up the blueprint for Obamacare, flip-flopping on just about every issue known to man, etc.

Call me when you dig up some real dirt on Paul, okay?

McSmack on February 6, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Is Paul double-dipping on reimbursements?
..now watch him blame that on “those” people who wrote the racist, anti-Semitic parts of HIS newsletters !!!!!!

TeaPartyNation on February 6, 2012 at 3:28 PM

k

(hang in there buddy)

Tim_CA on February 6, 2012 at 3:20 PM

I am soooo not a guy but thanks.

Fallon on February 6, 2012 at 3:32 PM

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