Gallup: 71% of Egyptians oppose further U.S. foreign aid

posted at 7:48 pm on February 6, 2012 by Allahpundit

Looks like we just saved $1.3 billion.

About 7 in 10 Egyptians surveyed by Gallup in December 2011 oppose U.S. economic aid to Egypt, and a similar percentage opposes the U.S. sending direct aid to civil society groups. This rebuke of U.S. financial support may be a challenge for Egypt’s newly elected parliament and its future president as the government attempts to bolster the nation’s financial stability…

Egyptians are much more willing to receive aid from international institutions, with 50% favoring this type of help. Egypt’s military and political leaders initally rejected an offer of support from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) but later changed their minds. Last month, Masood Ahmed, Director for the Middle East and Central Asia Department for the IMF, was in Egypt to discuss a potential $3.2 billion IMF loan to Egypt. Egyptian leaders’ ability to attract foreign aid and investment will be important to collecting the capital needed to move the nation’s economy forward.

Considering how widely loathed Mubarak is and who his patron was for 30 years, it’s no surprise that Egyptians aren’t anxious to see American money start flowing to the new government. What makes this poll doubly interesting is that it’s dropping right as the U.S. finds itself in a standoff with Egypt over the arrest of 19 American NGO workers for promoting democracy. One of the conditions of the next round of foreign aid is that Egypt has to meet certain democratic criteria — among which is newfound respect for civic institutions like NGOs. If the Americans (one of whom is the son of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood) end up going to prison, then presumably the check is canceled and our client state — or rather, client military — is no longer a client. The irony, of course, is that even in an age of budget-cutting, the U.S. wants to release this money as a bribe to the new government to maintain its cold peace with Israel. And the other irony is that, in order for the Americans to be released, Egypt’s junta might have to step in and overrule the judiciary in precisely the sort of authoritarian move that those new pro-democracy conditions on foreign aid are meant to deter.

If you’re looking for tea leaves on how this will end up playing out, read this. Here’s Gingrich turning up the heat on Obama with an obvious analogy.


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Okay then. Time to cut the cord.

chewmeister on February 6, 2012 at 7:50 PM

Do they want to return the F-16′s and M-1 tanks? I doubt that.

Mark1971 on February 6, 2012 at 7:53 PM

Welcome back, Carter.

We need a Reagan Rockefeller!!

portlandon on February 6, 2012 at 7:53 PM

To bad that the moron public doesn’t realize that this aid is one of the few sources of hard currency to keep their sorry a$$ of a country afloat.

Lance Murdock on February 6, 2012 at 7:53 PM

********************* CarpetBaggers ***********************
(sarc).

canopfor on February 6, 2012 at 7:54 PM

close up the check book….

cmsinaz on February 6, 2012 at 7:54 PM

So do 71% of Americans, so much for democracy in action.

dunce on February 6, 2012 at 7:55 PM

canopfor on February 6, 2012 at 7:54 PM

heh

cmsinaz on February 6, 2012 at 7:55 PM

If the Americans (one of whom is the son of Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood) end up going to prison, then presumably the check is canceled and our client state — or rather, client military — is no longer a client.

Then we hit the “disable” button, rendering all that gear useless.

Wait…..we didn’t plan for this?

BobMbx on February 6, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Let’s don’t force them to take it then. It’s time to cut a lot of foreign aid to these countries that hate our guts.

silvernana on February 6, 2012 at 8:00 PM

98.7% of Americans polled opposed further US aids to Egypt.

galtani on February 6, 2012 at 8:01 PM

And despite a similar number of Americans opposing this aid, it will still be given anyways.

Flange on February 6, 2012 at 8:01 PM

To bad that the moron public doesn’t realize that this aid is one of the few sources of hard currency to keep their sorry a$$ of a country afloat.

Lance Murdock on February 6, 2012 at 7:53 PM

They are used to being poor Mubarak conditioned them that it was something they should bear as Muslims.

They just don’t get what it would be like if Uncle Sam, really removed the safety net – Anarchy. If the Muslim Brotherhood is behind the move to reject aid from the U.S. it’s easy to see what they have planned for the populace of Egypt. There will be another dictator taking over in Egypt. Will that dictator be a Mullah or a Military dictator?

Dr Evil on February 6, 2012 at 8:02 PM

But Obama insists that we continue to pay them the jizya tax…

SWalker on February 6, 2012 at 8:02 PM

canopfor on February 6, 2012 at 7:54 PM
heh

cmsinaz on February 6, 2012 at 7:55 PM

cmsinaz:Yup,take the cheque book away,and keep checking them!:)

canopfor on February 6, 2012 at 8:03 PM

But Obama insists that we continue to pay them the Jizyah tax…

SWalker on February 6, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Obama will double down and double their aid.

JPeterman on February 6, 2012 at 8:04 PM

Good. 1,300 Million dollars not wasted on ignorance.

HopeHeFails on February 6, 2012 at 8:04 PM

US Foreign Aid Dashboard!
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http://foreignassistance.gov/

canopfor on February 6, 2012 at 8:05 PM

Arab Spring!
Saving us money!
Thank you JugEars!

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2012 at 8:06 PM

Gallup: 71% of Egyptians oppose further U.S. foreign aid

Good news, I’m cool with that too.

Tim Zank on February 6, 2012 at 8:06 PM

98.7% of Americans polled opposed further US aids to Egypt.

galtani on February 6, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Who, exactly then, are the remaining 1.3%?

JohnGalt23 on February 6, 2012 at 8:07 PM

:) Canopfor

cmsinaz on February 6, 2012 at 8:08 PM

Foreign aid to Egypt mostly amounts to indirectly buying wheat from farmers in the U.S. Without aid they will starve.

Kermit on February 6, 2012 at 8:09 PM

O/T a tad,Well,speaking of the M.E.,this should be interesting!
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Hacker group Anonymous leaks emails from Syria’s Bashar Assad
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Submitted 8 mins ago from http://www.haaretz.com
http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on February 6, 2012 at 8:10 PM

I move we give it to Israel instead… perhaps in the form of JDAMs and acres of concertina barbed wire for the Sinai.

darkpixel on February 6, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Who, exactly then, are the remaining 1.3%?

JohnGalt23 on February 6, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Those who attend mosques, Cair and Barry?

galtani on February 6, 2012 at 8:16 PM

I move we give it to Israel instead… perhaps in the form of JDAMs and acres of concertina barbed wire for the Sinai.

darkpixel on February 6, 2012 at 8:13 PM

That I like. Gives us more bang for the buck.

Mirimichi on February 6, 2012 at 8:16 PM

If they don’t want our money, we shouldn’t stand in their way.

rbj on February 6, 2012 at 8:17 PM

This situation is beyond belief!!! Who would have thunk it!

lisa fox on February 6, 2012 at 8:19 PM

Heres the whole ten yards on all things related
to Egypt!
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Egypt protests
***************

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/egypt-protests

canopfor on February 6, 2012 at 8:20 PM

The Bullying by Muslim BrotherHood!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

canopfor on February 6, 2012 at 8:22 PM

The Arab Spring thing is really working out… Good call there O oneness!

BobScuba on February 6, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Are you listening, Congress? Stop.Wasting.Our.Money.

ladyingray on February 6, 2012 at 8:29 PM

You are going to have to lick a lot of Muslim scrotum to regain their trust. You can do it!

BL@KBIRD on February 6, 2012 at 8:30 PM

I am so happy to read this. Nothing would make me happier then to see foreign cut off to Islamic countries. For those who choose shariah to actually have to live under shariah and try to build a working economy with NO handouts from the Western world.Let the Muslims stand on their own two feet with only help from members of the ummah then lets see how long they last.

Hera on February 6, 2012 at 8:32 PM

think of what wonderful utopian programs we can apply that $1.3 bill to……/WH

ted c on February 6, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Are you listening, Congress? Stop.Wasting.Our.Money.

ladyingray on February 6, 2012 at 8:29 PM

The process no longer works that way. It’s now our job to listen to them.

Flange on February 6, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Let’s don’t force them to take it then. It’s time to cut a lot of foreign aid to these countries that hate our guts.

silvernana on February 6, 2012 at 8:00 PM

Wasn’t this the point that Rick Perry was making about aid being tied to our national interests?

Why should we be funneling $ to ultimately fund the Muslim Brotherhood?

Aren’t we the biggest contributors to the IMF? What kind of shell game is this anyway?

onlineanalyst on February 6, 2012 at 8:36 PM

You’ll get nothing and like it!

/Spaulding

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on February 6, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Immediately cut all private and public aide. Keep them hungry and in the dark. We will see how long the muslim brotherhood takes to start mowing down rioting youts.

jukin3 on February 6, 2012 at 8:40 PM

You are going to have to lick a lot of Muslim scrotum to regain their trust. You can do it!

BL@KBIRD on February 6, 2012 at 8:30 PM

…and to think that people accused JugEars of bowing all the time, and gave him that *Obowma* name. You knew all along, what he was doing!

KOOLAID2 on February 6, 2012 at 8:41 PM

O.M.G……red meat,I wonder of this could be connected to Fast/Furious,er,Gun Walker!!
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Major donors to Obama campaign are tied to fugitive who fled to Mexico
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Submitted 16 mins ago from www10.nytimes.com
http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on February 6, 2012 at 8:42 PM

If only 71% of all Saudis, Israelis, and Jordanians felt the same way. Ah well, a man can dream.

abobo on February 6, 2012 at 8:42 PM

Cut the Tribute! They will soon feel the pinch when the new riot gear, the birdshot and the expired lots of tear gas aren’t there anymore.

BL@KBIRD on February 6, 2012 at 8:45 PM

Aren’t ya glad we got us some “Smart Diplomacy”?

GarandFan on February 6, 2012 at 8:45 PM

This could be the beginning of a new apology tour for Obama – this time for all that dismissive, and, yes, derisive foreign aid and military hardware.

SlaveDog on February 6, 2012 at 8:48 PM

We don’t want to give it, they don’t want to take it. It seems like the solution is right there if we could just find it.

But…I’ll bet we shove it down their throats whether they want it or not.

rogaineguy on February 6, 2012 at 8:48 PM

Then I guess the democratic republic of Egypt can vote to turn down our money.

ghostwriter on February 6, 2012 at 8:52 PM

Obama’s June 2009 speech in Cairo really sold the Arab Street, especially Egyptians, on all the benefits of representative democracy, freedom of religion and speech, the right to peacefully assemble and demand redress from government, and freedom from want, and fear and all the rest…really made a lasting impression on ‘em, didn’t it?

Now, about that foreign and military aid the Egyptians are not going to get…will it be returned to the Treasury to help pay down the debt, or will it be used to finance yet another Obama gimmick to solidify his re-election?

coldwarrior on February 6, 2012 at 8:59 PM

They can send it all to me.

I guarantee the money will be put to better use than it would be by the Muslim Brotherhood.

(Of course, simply burning it would do that.)

I would start up several companies to hire hundreds of jobless Americans, first of all. (I have a non-profit “green” idea that would actually work.)

Then invest a good chunk in Israeli technology firms to develop the next generation of Stuxnets.

I’d even put up a replica of the Sphinx -sticking its tongue out in the direction of Egypt- as an inner city, make-work, community arts project.

profitsbeard on February 6, 2012 at 9:01 PM

why don’t they airlift LaHood and the rest of the Americans (not sure of the nationalities of the others), my understanding is that he’s hosted at the US Embassy in Cairo. Am sure they have helicopter evacuation emergency plans at the Embassy, especially in that part of the world. They can airlift them and then take them to a flight and get them home. I wouldn’t think that Egypt would risk a diplomatic rift if not more by taking the helicopter down, assuming they keep the embassy under surveillance or so.

jimver on February 6, 2012 at 9:01 PM

but but but Obama gave a speech in Cairo. Memba?

sbvft contributor on February 6, 2012 at 9:04 PM

If only 71% of all Saudis, Israelis, and Jordanians felt the same way. Ah well, a man can dream.

abobo on February 6, 2012 at 8:42 PM

I know, right? “You heard ‘em, folks, they don’t want our money!”

But the Israelis know exactly how screwed they’d be without Uncle Sam, and we can’t count on ALL of the camel jockeys to be as stupid as the Egyptians. They’ve got a good scam going and they know it.

MelonCollie on February 6, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Do they want to return the F-16′s and M-1 tanks? I doubt that.

Mark1971 on February 6, 2012 at 7:53 PM

they need parts and ammo from the US…

jimver on February 6, 2012 at 9:04 PM

I say we support the Egyptian people on this one. Maybe after that, we can even stop sending money to Pakistan, or…oh, I don’t know…GAZA?

MadisonConservative on February 6, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Good. Egypt is already lost so we shouldnt be aiding them in any way. If the people there want to put the muslim brotherhood into power then they let them deal with it.

Sultanofsham on February 6, 2012 at 9:13 PM

they need parts and ammo from the US…

jimver on February 6, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Iranians are still flying F-14′s more than 30 years after being cutoff.

Mark1971 on February 6, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Wonderful…finally a 4th world sheet hole that doesn’t want us to toss out money down a rat hole. All Americans should demand that we stop propping up criminals…China included. Maybe they’ll have to see the pyramids sold to the highest bidder or moved to Lake Havasu to get any tourists to even look on them again?

Twana on February 6, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Iranians are still flying F-14′s more than 30 years after being cutoff.

Mark1971 on February 6, 2012 at 9:14 PM

true, only just some of them are probably in flying condition…actually I think I read somewhere on some website that there haven’t been a photo of a iranian F-14 in flight since 2004 or 2005 during a naval exercise or something….the website in question isn’t official or anything, more like a forum, and most commenters there were mil, AF personnel or so…

jimver on February 6, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Egyptians are much more willing to receive aid from international institutions…

…where there’s no accountability.

Tzetzes on February 6, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Ahhhhhh the Arab spring! Isn’t it lovely!

MCGIRV on February 6, 2012 at 9:36 PM

Egyptians are much more willing to receive aid from international institutions…

…where there’s no accountability.

Tzetzes on February 6, 2012 at 9:31 PM

…and the US is usually the biggest donor :-)…how twisted is this…

jimver on February 6, 2012 at 9:40 PM

Arab nuclear winter.

Valiant on February 6, 2012 at 9:46 PM

The gathering of the armies and nations described in the Book of Revelation is well under way.

platypus on February 6, 2012 at 9:46 PM

Not surprising. I imagine many of us would feel the same if we were forced to live under Mubarak for all these years.

humili mente on February 6, 2012 at 9:48 PM

No need to worry, I’m sure the geniuses in congress will find a way to give borrow and give a few billion anyway.

Rick Perry and Ron Paul have it right. END the handouts!

sidemeat on February 6, 2012 at 9:54 PM

So do 71% of Americans, so much for democracy in action.
dunce on February 6, 2012 at 7:55 PM

If you phrase the question: “Do you support subsidizing the militaries of Isreal and Egypt at the same time?” I’d say right around 98% of Americans would oppose it. The only people who could possibly be in favor of this would be the hardcore Cloward-Pivens crowd.

logis on February 6, 2012 at 10:06 PM

100% in my household.

pat on February 6, 2012 at 10:10 PM

Wow, they told Obamby and Hillary to stuff it, while they get to prosecute those idiots sticking their noses in other people’s business!

This is a great lesson for Americans, mind your own damn business when it comes to the affairs of other countries when visiting. You have no rights there.

Africanus on February 6, 2012 at 10:14 PM

What we are witnessing, in this day-to-day messy parade of bumbling confusion, is nothing less than the final realization of the dreams of every Pan-Arab nationalist dreamer of the last 100 years. The so-called “Arab Spring” has finally thrown off the secular bullies and low-rent thugs like Qaddafi and Mubarak, and let loose the vast tide of Islamic peoples to surge toward whatever bizarre Caliphate they may dream up.
The result will very likely look much more like a super-sized Iranian Mullah-cracy than anything else we’ve ever seen before, and made more psychotic by the raging reform movement within Islam that is represented by the Taliban and other purifying movements of the faith.
It took the blind naivete of a dunce like Jimmy Carter to create the regime in Iran, but it takes a truly towering colossus of arrogance and narcissism like Barack Obama to create the radical Islamic Empire that is slowly and painfully taking shape right now.
Hidden in the fog and dust of daily events, there is a truly vast evil in this, and we are not even beginning to prepare for it.

Lew on February 6, 2012 at 11:13 PM

When do we see the Mubarak “Miss me yet yet?” billboard? Should send one to the White house.

Greed on February 7, 2012 at 12:00 AM

I studder when i type.

Greed on February 7, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Oddly enough, I oppose it too.

Midas on February 7, 2012 at 12:20 AM

No more US foreign aid? Sure! I’m down with that.

No more military spare parts.

No more ‘assistance’ on anything.

And, since they are so huffy, we can cut off trade with them, to boot, since they don’t want our dirty money they can’t have our dirty goods or goods shipped by our dirty ships.

I’m all for it!

ajacksonian on February 7, 2012 at 6:40 AM

I am totally amazed that I can agree with 71% of Egyptians on something.

Marmo on February 7, 2012 at 6:59 AM

Some good came out of the Arab Spring after all.

David Blue on February 7, 2012 at 9:05 AM

I don’t want my tax money going to ANY country that is not 100% a democratic or republic style of government. This leaves maybe a half dozen countries.

I say, freeze all foreign aid and let congress come up with a formula that specifies how it’s given out, and require a 2/3 majority or MORE vote for any aid going to anywhere but Israel.

TX-96 on February 7, 2012 at 10:28 AM

How much of the military equipment needs factory technicians to operate properly?

goatweed on February 7, 2012 at 4:29 PM