PPP polls: Romney 14 up in Colorado, Santorum up two in Minnesota

posted at 2:00 pm on February 5, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Hot on the heels of Mitt Romney’s big win in Nevada come two more caucuses and another primary on Tuesday, in which no delegates will get directly assigned to any candidate.  However, both offer opportunities to shape the media coverage of the overall primary campaign, and for Rick Santorum, this might mean some good news.  PPP’s latest and final polls from Colorado and Minnesota give bad news to Newt Gingrich, however:

Last night’s results in Nevada were bad news for Newt Gingrich and PPP’s first day of polling in Colorado and Minnesota indicates things may only get worse for him in the coming days.

In Colorado Mitt Romney looks primed for another big Western win to match his  one in Nevada. He leads with 40% there to 26% for Rick Santorum, 18% for Gingrich, and 12% for Ron Paul.

Minnesota looks like a toss up with any of the four candidates having some shot at winning. Santorum holds a small edge there with 29% to 27% for Romney, 22% for Gingrich, and 19% for Paul.

What both states have in common is that Gingrich has fallen precipitously since our last polls in them. In Colorado Gingrich was in first place with a 19 point lead in early December. His support has declined 19 points since then and his net favorability has dropped 33 points from +41 (64/23) to only +8 (49/41). Gingrich has had a similarly large decline in Minnesota, but there it’s much more abrupt.  We polled the state only two weeks ago but in that time he’s dropped 14 points from 36% to 22%, and his favorability has 26 points from +34 (59/25) to +8 (47/39). That after glow from South Carolina has worn off real fast.

Santorum’s good news comes from Missouri more than Minnesota, where he had an eleven-point lead over Romney in a poll taken last weekend.  A lot has happened since, and Romney’s momentum from Florida and now Nevada might prove decisive.  Santorum will be spending the day in Minnesota and the evening in Colorado, but I’d expect a bigger push to win the non-binding Missouri primary.  He needs another win, even one that produces no delegate assignments, to get the media to break out of the two-man-race paradigm that has dominated the last two weeks of coverage.

Minnesota may be another surprise in the making, although it’s too close to tell and an expected low turnout will complicate the outcome.  Santorum now leads among Tea Party voters in both Colorado and Minnesota, and he beats Gingrich among “very conservative” voters in Minnesota by 16 points, 41/25.  Santorum not only leads the first choice question in MN, he also wins the second-choice question by a wider margin of five points over Gingrich and six over Romney, 25/20/19, with Ron Paul at 9%.  He has by far the best favorability rating in the poll, with 72/18 giving him a +54, compared to a +7 for Paul, +8 for Gingrich, and +11 for Romney, the onlty other candidate to get to 50% favorable in MN.  Santorum’s votes here are second-most firm at 25%, behind Romney’s at 29%.

Let’s say lightning strikes twice on Tuesday and Santorum manages to win both Minnesota and Missouri, while Romney coasts to a win in Colorado.  Besides the Maine caucuses that go on all week (and which are also non-binding), does this give Santorum an edge on the argument for being the true conservative consolidation candidate?  And conversely, if Santorum can’t win anything on Tuesday and with big Romney leads looming in Arizona and Michigan, is there an argument for Santorum’s perserverance?


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Santorum 2012! The safe, predictable conservative choice!

vegconservative on February 5, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Awww Newtsters…. Moon bases are not going to do it…

Bradky on February 5, 2012 at 2:03 PM

I bet you Palin will come out this week and say, vote for Rick in Coldorado. He is the closest to Mitt so that would only make sense.

tdavisjr on February 5, 2012 at 2:03 PM

I bet you Palin will come out this week and say, vote for Rick in Coldorado. He is the closest to Mitt so that would only make sense.

tdavisjr on February 5, 2012 at 2:03 PM

If she did that, I might regain some respect for her.

Priscilla on February 5, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Let’s say lightning strikes twice on Tuesday and Santorum manages to win both Minnesota and Missouri, while Romney coasts to a win in Colorado. Besides the Maine caucuses that go on all week (and which are also non-binding), does this give Santorum an edge on the argument for being the true conservative consolidation candidate?

Right to Work. NCLB. Medicare D. These are the issues.

Aside from the issues, how’s the money look, Rick? That’s the politics.

Race is over. Mitt won. Now it just the desperate struggle for survival delegates.

JohnGalt23 on February 5, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Anybody but freaking Romney or Ron Paul.

JellyToast on February 5, 2012 at 2:10 PM

Ron Paul is letting me down. Ah well. Let’s hope Santorum can be enough of a thorn in Romney’s side to keep it interesting.

abobo on February 5, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Anybody but freaking Romney or Ron Paul.

JellyToast on February 5, 2012 at 2:10 PM

I’m not wild about Mitt. Looks like he is the one we are stuck with. They all leave much to be desired.

SparkPlug on February 5, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Romney will get the nomination. The sooner conservatives coalesce around him, and stop their fantasizing about a social conservative candidate, the better the chance that Romney can beat Obama. Of course for these people, they don’t really care if Romney beats Obama – contrary to the narrative that the most important even in the history of America is that Obama be defeated.

keep the change on February 5, 2012 at 2:12 PM

tdavisjr on February 5, 2012 at 2:03 PM

I wouldn’t count on it. Palin’s already pretty strongly hitched her carriage to Newt’s campaign. To back out on him now would be an admission of error on her part (she hasn’t admitted making a mistake when it comes to supporting candidates yet, and instead reflects blame onto others when they do poorly, ala Christine O’Donnell) and would pretty much out her as desperately trying to find some means of staying relevant to the race, no matter who she latches onto.

WealthofNations on February 5, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Race is over. Mitt won. Now it just the desperate struggle for survival delegates.

JohnGalt23 on February 5, 2012 at 2:07 PM

Probably true but there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth in November when Obama lite loses by 10 to the Real Hussein. Santorum would probably lose by more but that hypothesis will never be tested.

Annar on February 5, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Probably true but there will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth in November when Obama lite loses by 10 to the Real Hussein. Santorum would probably lose by more but that hypothesis will never be tested.

Annar on February 5, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Romney won’t lose by ten. He won’t lose by more than 6.

JohnGalt23 on February 5, 2012 at 2:14 PM

JohnGalt23: individual mandates, Cap & Trade, Immigration, having worked for Freddie Mac, turning bitter and classless in the last week. These things are why Rick trumps Newt on both the issues and in personal style.

michaelo on February 5, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Fearless, Consistent, Conservative.

Who can articulate that best against the Obama Death Star ReElect machine?

THAT is the question.

PappyD61 on February 5, 2012 at 2:15 PM

GO RICK! GO RICK! (the other… Newt)
I’m still ticked off he did not get on the ballot in a couple of states. It’s like forgetting to wear a hairpiece. (Is it? I’m watching him right now..and I can’t tell. I’ll have to go to a fundraiser and grab it, I guess.)

KOOLAID2 on February 5, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Romney will get the nomination. The sooner conservatives coalesce around him, and stop their fantasizing about a social conservative candidate, the better the chance that Romney can beat Obama. Of course for these people, they don’t really care if Romney beats Obama – contrary to the narrative that the most important even in the history of America is that Obama be defeated.

keep the change on February 5, 2012 at 2:12 PM

Resistance is futile. Assimilate with the collective. /s

Kaffa on February 5, 2012 at 2:18 PM

If I had to guess, I’d say that Romney takes Colorado, Maine, and Minnesota. I know Minnesota is too close to call, but logically the Nevada win should give Romney somewhat of a boost, and Romney has greater organization there, which should allow him to maximize his advantages.

Missouri, well, its hard to say how close it’ll be. However a week ago Santorum was up, and he’s been campaigning there hard while the Romney campaign has largely been focused elsewhere.

Winning Missouri keeps Santorum in the race for awhile, and likely allows him to firmly take the second place spot from Gingrich. However, none of these states are going to get the media coverage of the early primary states, or even Nevada. So a Missouri win probably wouldn’t greatly change the race.

Now, a Missouri and Minnesota win may barely be enough to get things back into horse-race mode, but we’ll see.

WolvenOne on February 5, 2012 at 2:21 PM

JohnGalt23: individual mandates, Cap & Trade, Immigration, having worked for Freddie Mac, turning bitter and classless in the last week. These things are why Rick trumps Newt on both the issues and in personal style.

michaelo on February 5, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Oh, no doubt Frothy is better on style. For as much as I disagree and dislike the man’s positions, he has at least defended them with more than a modicum of grace and class, wrong though he might be.

And Paul and Romney have also handled themselves with grace, as good GOP candidates for POTUS should, whether you agree or disagree with them.

Newt has not demonstrated such qualities. When this whole thing started, I had less respect for Santorum and Romney than I do now. They’ve handled things reasonable well under a high-pressure campaign. I have less… no, make that far less… respect for Newt today than I did when he entered this campaign. He has forced me to remember why this party unceremoniously kicked him to the curb in the late ’90′s.

JohnGalt23 on February 5, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Santorum admitted he is a big fan of ear-marks…I personally don’t care for some jackass in Pennsylvania spending my tax dollars earned in SC. He spent a couple of decades spending other people’s money. He needs to earn a living from the sweat of his own brow for a change. He’s going no-where fast no matter what happens in Minnesota or Missouri. He’s hanging on for a cabinet post or VP offer…I’d send him home for good…

Nozzle on February 5, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Mittheads, we’re not dragging your RINO over the finish line this time either. When will you get it? I sure hope that the thumping Mitt takes in November is enough to wake people up to the FACT that Americans aren’t excited about a Democrat-lite candidate. Since apparently money and great hair is what it takes to get elected, then let’s get an extremely rich, handsome but solid CONSERVATIVE candidate to run in 2016, if it isn’t too late for this country by then.

Decoski on February 5, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Resistance is futile. Assimilate with the collective. /s

Kaffa on February 5, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Or find yourself another party. That was one option the Borg never offered.

keep the change on February 5, 2012 at 2:25 PM

President Mitt will win every single state in the primary except for the some southern states which are full of red-necked traitors who left the union until the first republican president kicked their southern arses back into our glorious union.

They havent gotten over that and now seek to destroy our country by voting for unelectable clowns like Gingrich and Sanitorium.

Jailbreak on February 5, 2012 at 2:27 PM

I like how competitive the upcoming states are, however, the biggest disappointment would have to be Arizona. Why that place isn’t Gingrich Country is beyond me.

The Nerve on February 5, 2012 at 2:29 PM

If she did that, I might regain some respect for her.

Priscilla on February 5, 2012 at 2:06 PM

Please.

Sarah has done more for conservatism than all of us combined.

LevinFan on February 5, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Or find yourself another party. That was one option the Borg never offered.

keep the change on February 5, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Point well taken. :)

Kaffa on February 5, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Go Santorum!!

LevinFan on February 5, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Santorum 2012! The safe, predictable conservative choice!

vegconservative on February 5, 2012 at 2:02 PM

Have you googled “Santorum” lately?

rubberneck on February 5, 2012 at 2:33 PM

In case anyone is interested, I do plan on going to the caucuses here in Colorado once my classes are over. I’m not sure who I’ll vote for, but I’m content with either Santorum or Paul. If it looks like Santorum has a shot to beat Mitt, then I’ll go for him. Ultimately, my goal for the day is to make as many people see Mitt Romney for the sham of a candidate that he is.

Aizen on February 5, 2012 at 2:33 PM

let’s get an extremely rich, handsome but solid CONSERVATIVE candidate to run in 2016

Decoski on February 5, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Rand Paul it is. Of course, Rand has gorgeous curly blonde hair which isn’t for everybody and that’s too bad, but what’re you gonna do?!?

The Nerve on February 5, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Have you googled “Santorum” lately?

rubberneck on February 5, 2012 at 2:33 PM

You’re a liberal.

Who cares about garbage like that???

That’s how we’re supposed to pick our candidates now??

Loser.

LevinFan on February 5, 2012 at 2:34 PM

On Feb 7th im gonna “annoy a Palin, vote Romney”

hanzblinx on February 5, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Ultimately, my goal for the day is to make as many people see Mitt Romney for the sham of a candidate that he is.

Aizen on February 5, 2012 at 2:33 PM

That shouldn’t be too hard to do.

The Nerve on February 5, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Sarah has done more for conservatism than all of us combined.

She certainly has been a charismatic and effective spokesperson for conservative values. And she has recently shown that she can be as disingenuous and hypocritical as any other politician.

Priscilla on February 5, 2012 at 2:37 PM

On Feb 7th im gonna “annoy a Palin, vote Romney”

hanzblinx on February 5, 2012 at 2:35 PM

..too funny!

The War Planner on February 5, 2012 at 2:47 PM

newtie not doing so good eh?

cmsinaz on February 5, 2012 at 2:47 PM

And she has recently shown that she can be as disingenuous and hypocritical as any other politician.

Priscilla on February 5, 2012 at 2:37 PM

..and too true!

The War Planner on February 5, 2012 at 2:47 PM

The circular firing squad has just about guaranteed than none of the current crop of candidates can win and in spite of their fan clubs Willatd and Ricky would lose by more than Gingrich. The only hope left seems to be a brokered convention with a last minute savior. The odds of this happening are minuscule so it’s probably best to concentrate on down ticket races to offset the reverse coattails of the probable nominee.

Annar on February 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM

She certainly has been a charismatic and effective spokesperson for conservative values. And she has recently shown that she can be as disingenuous and hypocritical as any other politician.

Priscilla on February 5, 2012 at 2:37 PM

When?

If you’re going to spew garbage, try backing it up.

LevinFan on February 5, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Santorum and Paul have zero chance at the nomination.

Newt has a slight chance, but better than zero.

We’re either going to get Romney or Newt. Any other discussion is pointless other than as a way to indirectly promote Romney.

These Santorum fantasies on here just make conservatives look like the fools that the critics keep telling us about.

I’m conservative, but the idiots on here, both writers and commenters, give conservatives a bad name. So much stupid here that it makes any thinking person reluctant to self-identify as a conservative. You’re embarrassing yourselves and conservatives everywhere.

doorsxp on February 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM

And conversely, if Santorum can’t win anything on Tuesday and with big Romney leads looming in Arizona and Michigan, is there an argument for Santorum’s perserverance?

Is there any argument for Newt’s perserverance? If he is not in MO and VA? Is he in OH and Tennessee? I keep hearing differing facts on this, if not on in those states, then what is the point of Newt’s perseverance?

Newt is imploding as stated. He is $600,000 in the hole and that is why he’ll be holding the Media Conferences after the votes, he is running out of money and doesn’t have the people to fill even a small venue. Appearances matter and Mitt’s crowds are larger and larger and the halls are getting bigger and bigger, while Newt holds a Media Q&A.

uhangtight on February 5, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Can anyone tell me since this is new to the state I currently live in, and I am new to the state as well? I just moved to Missouri last year and they are using a caucus system this time around. Is the polling place that I found the same as where they will caucus? It isn’t a very large place, so it doesn’t seem like it could accomodate all those people if they have to be there at the same time. Anyone know somewhere I can find that info if it’s different?

Kelligan on February 5, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Annar on February 5, 2012 at 2:48 PM

The circular firing squad has just about guaranteed than none of the current crop of candidates can win and in spite of their fan clubs Willatd and Ricky would lose by more than Gingrich.

I’m sorry but where did you get your facts that Mitt and Rick would lose by more than Gingrich? When both Mitt and Rick are tied with Obama and Newt is 8 points behind Obama?

Newt is self imploding, which is what would happen if he were running against Obama. It is ugly and embarrassing. I am glad it is happening before so folks can see what a Newt Campaign against Obama would really look like. Ugly, Ugly InDeed.

uhangtight on February 5, 2012 at 2:56 PM

But Rick is a true Conservative!

Notorious GOP on February 5, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Can anyone tell me since this is new to the state I currently live in, and I am new to the state as well? I just moved to Missouri last year and they are using a caucus system this time around. Is the polling place that I found the same as where they will caucus? It isn’t a very large place, so it doesn’t seem like it could accomodate all those people if they have to be there at the same time. Anyone know somewhere I can find that info if it’s different?
Kelligan on February 5, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Try going to the Secretary of State’s website for Missouri. There should be info there….

Buy Danish on February 5, 2012 at 3:05 PM

I bet you Palin will come out this week and say, vote for Rick in Coldorado. He is the closest to Mitt so that would only make sense.

tdavisjr on February 5, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Well we will see, she is going to be on Foxnews Sunday next week, I am glad she has been pushing for the process to keep going. If not Santorum may have already been out.

KBird on February 5, 2012 at 3:05 PM

President Mitt will win every single state in the primary except for the some southern states which are full of red-necked traitors who left the union until the first republican president kicked their southern arses back into our glorious union.

They havent gotten over that and now seek to destroy our country by voting for unelectable clowns like Gingrich and Sanitorium.

Jailbreak on February 5, 2012 at 2:27 PM

You do realize that Romney was leading by double digits in SC before he fumbled the tax returns question, right?

GOPRanknFile on February 5, 2012 at 3:07 PM

Mitt believes he is going to run his own planet some day. He doesn’t need no stinking presidency.

Give your primary vote to a conservative.

Valiant on February 5, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Santorum? Big government coupled with authoritarian religious fanaticism. “True conservative” just doesn’t mean what it once did.

Rational Thought on February 5, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Newt is imploding as stated. He is $600,000 in the hole and that is why he’ll be holding the Media Conferences after the votes, he is running out of money and doesn’t have the people to fill even a small venue. Appearances matter and Mitt’s crowds are larger and larger and the halls are getting bigger and bigger, while Newt holds a Media Q&A.

uhangtight on February 5, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Can’t wait until Newt Gingrich starts trying to clobber the media like he tried with Wolf Blitzer. That’ll be funny and sad at the same exact time!

The Nerve on February 5, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Looks like Gingrich and Romney were sharing voters more so than Gingrich and Santorum and a percentage of them prefer voting for the likely winner over voting their heart even in the primary.

Speakup on February 5, 2012 at 3:14 PM

doorsxp on February 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM

If Newt didn’t shoot himself in the foot constantly, propose a costly moon base, sit on a couch with Pelosi promoting global warming, have investments and lobbying ties to Freddie Mac, support an individual mandate, mislead voters about his four years of “balanced budgets,” and wasn’t a serial adulterer, I could see your point about this race being Mitt vs. Newt.

The way I see it, however, is that there’s little to no difference between Mitt (Liberal #1) and Newt (Liberal #2), and you’d be hard-pressed to find some logical contrasts between the two men. Now, I’ve long said that Paul’s foreign policy is a problem, and Santorum’s big government social-conservatism is also a problem, but either Santorum or Paul would be a much more acceptable nominee than Tweedledee or Tweedledum. Mitt and Newt are running the most nasty and vicious campaigns possible, and they’re not making it easier for Obama to lose in November.

Aizen on February 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Santorum? Big government coupled with authoritarian religious fanaticism. “True conservative” just doesn’t mean what it once did.

Rational Thought on February 5, 2012 at 3:08 PM

I can understand the complaint about big government….

but the same crowd parsing every word said to make sure no one says anything bad about Mormons, are really going to all hate the religious guy on Rick?

Really?

When did he ever say he was going to install his religious views on you?

and how’s that attack any different than the Mormonism is a cult line?

mark81150 on February 5, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Go Team Santorum!!!

multiuseless on February 5, 2012 at 3:26 PM

3:1 odds that Madonna grabs her crotch during the half time show.

Opps wrong thread.

SparkPlug on February 5, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Ed –

I gather you missed Mitt’s speech last night. You may want to give it a look see as it was far from his usual boilerplate. IMHO, it was his best speech to date. He went after The O with relish and many great lines.

Buy Danish on February 5, 2012 at 3:28 PM

President Mitt will win every single state in the primary except for the some southern states which are full of red-necked traitors who left the union until the first republican president kicked their southern arses back into our glorious union.
Jailbreak on February 5, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Dude, shut up, please. You’re comments are not helpful…

Buy Danish on February 5, 2012 at 3:30 PM

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0112/72248.html

Newt’s campaign is $600000 in the hole?

Items of expenses : $47,000 to Newt for a list of supporters, and another $67,000 to one of his companies for web hosting, according to a report filed Tuesday with the Federal Election Commission.

Why did the campaign paid him personally $206,000 for travel, when campaigns typically foot travel costs directly? Did Newt charge
traveling to his reward credit card and get a 1.5% cash reward?

galtani on February 5, 2012 at 3:33 PM

If Santorum wins both MN and MO, then yeah, he’d have an argument that he’s the main rival to Romney. But Newt’s ego won’t allow him to acknowledge that, so it won’t matter.

What’s the point of having these contests if they’re non-binding, anyway?

changer1701 on February 5, 2012 at 3:36 PM

On Feb 7th im gonna “annoy a Palin, vote Romney”

hanzblinx on February 5, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Spoken like a true person who was going to vote for Romney anyway. Please. If you were a conservative, you would never vote for him just to annoy Palin. Great idea…sink the country to go against one politician.

Dan Pet on February 5, 2012 at 3:38 PM

I gather you missed Mitt’s speech last night. You may want to give it a look see as it was far from his usual boilerplate. IMHO, it was his best speech to date. He went after The O with relish and many great lines.

Buy Danish

Guess we saw two different speeches. That was exactly the same as the others. Corny hits on Obama, robotic and just plain BLAH.

Dan Pet on February 5, 2012 at 3:40 PM

You’re a liberal.

Who cares about garbage like that???

That’s how we’re supposed to pick our candidates now??

Loser.

LevinFan on February 5, 2012 at 2:34 PM

You’re a bigger idiot than Mark Levin. Seriously, go sniff his crotch some more. Not all of us are nutcase conservatives.

rubberneck on February 5, 2012 at 3:40 PM

President Mitt will win every single state in the primary except for the some southern states which are full of red-necked traitors who left the union until the first republican president kicked their southern arses back into our glorious union.

They havent gotten over that and now seek to destroy our country by voting for unelectable clowns like Gingrich and Sanitorium.

Jailbreak

That has got to be one of the most stupid statements posted here except for anything opined by Liberal4Life.

Gothguy on February 5, 2012 at 3:43 PM

I’m so committed to Newt Gingrich that if he does badly in the three beauty contests on February 7 (Colorado, Minnesota, and Missouri) I’ll throw him under the bus in a heartbeat in favor of Rick Santorum.

That’s as of February 7. On February 11, Palin speaks at CPAC. We’ll see what happens.

But I can’t ever support Willard. One reason is the childish and obnoxious nature of the Willardistas on this site. It’s not dialogue–it’s playground. It’s so transparently astroturfing, with a few exceptions, that I’d vote Ron Paul before Willard. (See what you “arguments” have done?) At least you can reason with a Paulian.

Emperor Norton on February 5, 2012 at 3:43 PM

After the early challengers either dropped out or were nuked, the only choices left were all deeply flawed, Mitt just gets under peoples skin with his progressive friendly quotes, Newt. (damn why did you have to be like this?).. Rick’s just a little too big government, his social views are a plus to me.. and well, Paul isn’t a choice, he’s a sanity test.

Mitt just cannot generate any serious enthusiasm, sorry but he just can’t. The Mitt base can insult till the cows come home, nobody likes him much, even if he gets a vote for “electablity”. That pleases the athiest, rino wing no end, that he’s winning, but they win as ugly as Mitt campaigns.. all high fiving each other while smearing and insulting the folks he’ll need in November.

I feel like I’m watching my kids playing Halo deathmatch, all in each others faces, and all taunting for no reason but to p*ss off the other players, then getting even meaner when they loose a round.. dancing over the opponents corpse, till somebody drops em and does it to them, then it’s all “unfair”…

mark81150 on February 5, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Rand Paul it is. Of course, Rand has gorgeous curly blonde hair which isn’t for everybody and that’s too bad, but what’re you gonna do?!?

The Nerve on February 5, 2012 at 2:34 PM

It’s a curse I tell you!

antisense on February 5, 2012 at 3:46 PM

I live in Missouri and the last I heard Romney is ahead of Rick. I haven’t decided who I am going to vote for but have decided who I am not going to vote for and it is Rick Santorum no way. This man has not been vetted at all. His support of Spector over Tumney is unforgivable and shows his true non-conservative views. This man is a fraud.

ihavehadit on February 5, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Great idea…sink the country to go against one politician.

Dan Pet on February 5, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Are you talking about Mrs. Todd Palin’s endorsement of Newt with the state goal of destroying Romney?

antisense on February 5, 2012 at 3:50 PM

I live in Missouri and the last I heard Romney is ahead of Rick. I haven’t decided who I am going to vote for but have decided who I am not going to vote for and it is Rick Santorum no way. This man has not been vetted at all. His support of Spector over Tumney is unforgivable and shows his true non-conservative views. This man is a fraud.

ihavehadit on February 5, 2012 at 3:49 PM

You haven’t been vetted, either. You may not even be a voter, since you sound like you’re 12.

Tumney? You mean Toomey. (Not even close!)

You see what the Willard campaign is doing? As soon as there’s a new competitor on the horizon, based on a hot news release, they send out the yoots to smear him online. Now Santorum is no good?

Heh. If anyone has true non-conservative views, it’s Willard. That man is a fraud!

Emperor Norton on February 5, 2012 at 3:55 PM

President Mitt will win every single state in the primary except for the some southern states which are full of red-necked traitors who left the union until the first republican president kicked their southern arses back into our glorious union.

They havent gotten over that and now seek to destroy our country by voting for unelectable clowns like Gingrich and Sanitorium.

Jailbreak

You must just adore flame wars…

Spaeking as a person who had six members of his mother’s family wear the blue in Ohio Regiments..

let it go,

I respect southern conservatives infinitely more than the New England type who resemble liberals so much, you can barely tell the difference. At least southerners are consistent in their views, not changing them to suit whatever liberal meme comes along. All so they aren’t “scarey” or “Christianist” looking to those ever so timid independents who tend to break liberal.

and “seek to destroy our country”… you really think that? How about us midwestern voters who don’t like Mitt? You have any off the self insults for us too?

You have got to be trolling here, that is no more a serious comment, than the kind you get from your average progressive. Even Obama and crew don’t want to “destry” this country, rule it, change it, own it yes.. but destroy?

how much coffee did it take to type that in?

mark81150 on February 5, 2012 at 4:00 PM

I gather you missed Mitt’s speech last night. You may want to give it a look see as it was far from his usual boilerplate. IMHO, it was his best speech to date. He went after The O with relish and many great lines.

Buy Danish on February 5, 2012 at 3:28 PM

He needs to learn to use a teleprompter he looks bad reading from paper on the pulpit.

But like Obama he does read speeches well and has a great speech writer.

I have no idea why so many believe this guy though. I mean Obama said a lot of good things when running for President. But his record was just like he is actually running things. Mitts record is running to the left NOT RIGHT of Democrats. Voting and supporting the most liberal Democrats. He ran for Governor promising Government Run Health Care, Abortion free and on Demand and Civil unions. He achieved these beyond any ones dreams. In fact he actually got the Gays Gay Marriage.

Now he claims a conservative record. Wake up those are his major accomplishments and the most left in the country to this day. Care). In this speech he claims he will repeal Obama Care but says nothing of what will replace it but he still supports Romney Care that is Obama Care at a State level if that is what he replaces it with very little will change. His conservative record was all overridden. I do not give politicians credit for easy votes that mattered not one little bit in reality.

Don’t have pity on him because he supposedly lived in Mass. thus had to run there he lived in homes all over the country. He could have run in any state in the Union. Immense wealth buys you that. He choose Mass most likely because it was so liberal. He is Obama v2 pure and simple.

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 4:03 PM

I like how competitive the upcoming states are, however, the biggest disappointment would have to be Arizona. Why that place isn’t Gingrich Country is beyond me.

The Nerve on February 5, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Arizona has a sizable Mormon population and Mitt ran very well there in 2008. He only lost the Arizona primary to McCain by ten points so with that kind of base strength it’s not really a surprise he’s doing well there now.

alchemist19 on February 5, 2012 at 4:05 PM

You have got to be trolling here, that is no more a serious comment, than the kind you get from your average progressive. Even Obama and crew don’t want to “destry” this country, rule it, change it, own it yes.. but destroy?

how much coffee did it take to type that in?

mark81150 on February 5, 2012 at 4:00 PM

I notice he quit using dates since his embarrassing statement that the civil war started in 1932. LOL

Night Owl on February 5, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Romney is going to win Minnesota, or Tim Pawlenty is a walking dead man.

Santorum is a much more reasoned, articulate, and sensible conservative alternative to Gingrich. Newt’s press conf last night was one of the most vile and hyperbolic travesties I have ever seen in American politics. Newt needs to shut up and sit down and go away. People hate him, especially seniors, women and independents, and no amount of red meat is going to make him palatable to anyone.

Romney has tremendous crossover appeal in the general and anybody who doesn’t recognize this needs a primer in presidential politics.

matthew8787 on February 5, 2012 at 4:09 PM

I like how competitive the upcoming states are, however, the biggest disappointment would have to be Arizona. Why that place isn’t Gingrich Country is beyond me.

The Nerve on February 5, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Arizona has a sizable Mormon population and Mitt ran very well there in 2008. He only lost the Arizona primary to McCain by ten points so with that kind of base strength it’s not really a surprise he’s doing well there now.

alchemist19 on February 5, 2012 at 4:05 PM

In addition AZ is very liberal. It is more like Mass than most other western states. Mostly because so many from northern states have moved there to retire. McCain does very well there as a liberal Republican (he only claimed conservative when running for President and after).

But Obama will win so I will not post here much. Not unless Santorum takes off Gingrich has proven to be way too vindictive. If he believes in Catholicism he ignores many important parts of it like forgiving 70 times 7.

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Romney has tremendous crossover appeal in the general and anybody who doesn’t recognize this needs a primer in presidential politics.

matthew8787 on February 5, 2012 at 4:09 PM

I heard his appeal among independents is dropping like a stone, but I hope you’re right because he doesn’t have that much appeal to a lot of republicans.

Night Owl on February 5, 2012 at 4:14 PM

Emperor Norton is typical of Santorum supporters and so called good Christians. They name call and demean to further their cause. Santorum tries to take the high road and claims he doesn’t get into the mud with the other candidates, that’s because they ignore him. Instead he attacks them from the side on the debates. He has virtually attacked all of the leading candidates in the race from the debate stage and the media arena. But he calls it attacking on the issues??? Give me a break. He distorts every thing he says about all of them, only Ron Paul has called him on it. The ONE true conservative in the race.

ihavehadit on February 5, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Romney has tremendous crossover appeal in the general and anybody who doesn’t recognize this needs a primer in presidential politics.

matthew8787 on February 5, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Romney’s comments about the poor play extremely well among middle class people, especially women. They see so much done for the takers while the makers eat a turd sammich.

antisense on February 5, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Romney has tremendous crossover appeal in the general and anybody who doesn’t recognize this needs a primer in presidential politics.

matthew8787 on February 5, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Study 2008. McCain had the same crossover appeal. He lost.

Americans want a real man. Someone who does not change principals on a dime. Both Obama and Romney do that. Romney ran for and served as a very liberal Republican to the left of his Democratic opponent and he delivered. Were he running that way still he would have a chance except for the fact Republicans Nationally will not elect a liberal to the left of the Democrats. Thus this charade, just like McCain, that he is Conservative. He is NOT.

McCain lost to the real liberal so will Mitt. Americans do not vote for men running as one thing when they are another thing unless they are Democrats as all Democrats do that.

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Give your primary vote to a conservative.

Valiant on February 5, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Would love to do that, but a real one doesn’t exist in this current crop of candidates.

jazzuscounty on February 5, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Santorum and Paul have zero chance at the nomination.

Newt has a slight chance, but better than zero.

We’re either going to get Romney or Newt. Any other discussion is pointless other than as a way to indirectly promote Romney.

These Santorum fantasies on here just make conservatives look like the fools that the critics keep telling us about.

I’m conservative, but the idiots on here, both writers and commenters, give conservatives a bad name. So much stupid here that it makes any thinking person reluctant to self-identify as a conservative. You’re embarrassing yourselves and conservatives everywhere.

doorsxp on February 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Well put! The Romney people are jumping on Rick Santorum to push Newt out…Knowing full well that he has ZERO chance to win. They don’t even bother spending one dollar attack ad on Rick because he is nothing but a beauty contest candidate.

jules on February 5, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Romney’s comments about the poor play extremely well among middle class people, especially women. They see so much done for the takers while the makers eat a turd sammich.

antisense on February 5, 2012 at 4:15 PM

Not compared to Obama. The press will constantly run specials on the real Mitt and about how he hurt the middle class and the poor and they will not even have to lie to do this. He was a disaster for both as Governor. The press will extol his liberal record. They will play all those debates of him saying how liberal he was and contrast that with what he is saying now.

This will destroy Mitt and the Republican base will be more depressed than with McCain.

Mitt has a 5% chance of winning President at most.

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Study 2008. McCain had the same crossover appeal. He lost.

Americans want a real man. Someone who does not change principals on a dime. Both Obama and Romney do that. Romney ran for and served as a very liberal Republican to the left of his Democratic opponent and he delivered. Were he running that way still he would have a chance except for the fact Republicans Nationally will not elect a liberal to the left of the Democrats. Thus this charade, just like McCain, that he is Conservative. He is NOT.

McCain lost to the real liberal so will Mitt. Americans do not vote for men running as one thing when they are another thing unless they are Democrats as all Democrats do that.

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Study 2008 more closely. McCain was winning until the economy blew up six weeks before election day.

alchemist19 on February 5, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Emperor Norton is typical of Santorum supporters and so called good Christians.

No, I support Gingrich right now, not Santorum. However, I did like the way Santorum smacked Willard upside the head on Romneycare in the last debate.

And no, I’m not a Christian–good or otherwise–or a member of any church.

Other than that–get out of here!

Emperor Norton on February 5, 2012 at 4:24 PM

“Bottom falling from under Gingrich?”

Please, please, please, with sugar on top…and chocolate sprinkles…and marshmallows…and pistachios…and Oreo crumbles…and chocolate chunks…and Reese’s Pieces…and walnuts…and M&Ms…and chocolate whipped cream…and Irish coffee-flavoured whipped cream…and a cherry…no, make that three cherries!

I am soooooooooooo tired of his pomposity, petulance, perfidy, perspicaciouslessness (pardon the neologism for the sake of alliteration), prickliness, and protestations of alleged aggressions that the only time that I ever have to want to hear or see Newt Gingrich’s name again is in the market queue on the front of the National Enquirer:

“Masseuse: ‘He’s a crazed sex poodle and demanded that I release his second chakra.’”

Newt Gingrich is so totally going to be Al Gore (without the cult followers) when this is all over.

Resist We Much on February 5, 2012 at 4:25 PM

I like how competitive the upcoming states are, however, the biggest disappointment would have to be Arizona. Why that place isn’t Gingrich Country is beyond me.

The Nerve on February 5, 2012 at 2:29 PM

You’re talking about the state that, despite my best efforts, reelected John McCain to the senate? Why would we want Gingrich?

JannyMae on February 5, 2012 at 4:28 PM

I’m conservativeliveral Republican, but the idiots on here, both writers and commenters, give conservatives a bad name. So much stupid here that it makes any thinking person reluctant to self-identify as a conservative. You’r I’m embarrassing yourselves and conservatives everywhere myself.

doorsxp on February 5, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Well put! The Romney people are jumping on Rick Santorum to push Newt out…Knowing full well that he has ZERO chance to win. They don’t even bother spending one dollar attack ad on Rick because he is nothing but a beauty contest candidate.

jules on February 5, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Mitt has no chance against Obama and the MSM. He is a huge flipflopper and Americans never choose a flipflopping Republican. Just ask McCain. Both McCain and Romney only changed from liberal Republican to Conservative to try to win an election. Both remain liberal Republicans. Romney Care is all the proof that is needed Mitt is liberal. No Conservative would ever support Romney Care but he still does.

The MSM will start destroying Mitt the day he secures the nomination I assure you. They will succeed in no time at all. I know this will sound crazy but would Mitt not be better off agreeing to become Obama’s VP rather than lose to him which he would no doubt whatsoever?

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Blah blah blah. Do you ever have anything original or new to say? We’ve heard it all a gazillion times. Except for your laughable theory about Mitt being Obama’s veep. That’s a new one!

Buy Danish on February 5, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Study 2008 more closely. McCain was winning until the economy blew up six weeks before election day.

alchemist19 on February 5, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Study all elections.

The MSM pollsters always get results that are no where near correct until shortly before the election. They use polls to push an agenda. Polls are mostly worthless unless just prior to an election. We all knew McCain would lose he sealed this himself when he complained at Republicans for using Obamas middle name. You can not win by protecting your opponent. Little doubt in my mind Mitt will do the same thing once the nomination is secured. It is impossible to find Mitt criticizing a very liberal Democrat prior to 2005 when he started running as a fake conservative just like McCain. Before that he loved to criticize conservative Democrats and Republicans.

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM

Blah blah blah. Do you ever have anything original or new to say? We’ve heard it all a gazillion times. Except for your laughable theory about Mitt being Obama’s veep. That’s a new one!

Buy Danish on February 5, 2012 at 4:36 PM

At least I’m consistent. Unlike Mitt.

Got burned with G Bush, Got burned much more by GW Bush. Then really burnt by McCain (I call him McInsane still mostly). I got fooled three times by men that pretended to be conservative but instead governed as liberal as they possibly could. But Mitt is a totally different level of this. He ran the most liberal State in the nation and accomplished horrible things. Free Abortion on Demand, Government controlled Health care worst of all he actually achieved Gay Marriage. I know he currently lies that he was not for Abortion and Gay Marriage but his record says plainly he was and he campaigned as more liberal on these than his Democrat opponent.

I will not be burned again. I will never vote for Mitt.

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Groan. You just cut and pasted more tedious (and disingenuous) talking points. Oh well, Rah Rah – 4 more years of Obama! You can be oh so proud to stand on principle while the republic goes down the drain.

Seriously – why even bother commenting here if that’s your position. You might as well be a KOS Kid or card-carrying member of D.U.

PS: How were you “fooled” by McCain? You must be the most gullible person on the planet.

Buy Danish on February 5, 2012 at 4:54 PM

I bet you Palin will come out this week and say, vote for Rick in Coldorado. He is the closest to Mitt so that would only make sense.

tdavisjr on February 5, 2012 at 2:03 PM

If she did that, I might regain some respect for her.

Priscilla on February 5, 2012 at 2:06 PM

After Newt’s train wreck last night, I hope to goodness the Palins find a way out of the weeds. I am not surprised that Newtie’s numbers have plummeted, and those polls probably were taken prior to Nevada.

Sarah: Rick Santorum needs to stay in this race because steel sharpens steel. We need this vetting before taking the Obama machine.

Philly on February 5, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Study all elections.

The MSM pollsters always get results that are no where near correct until shortly before the election.

*studies Delaware 2010 US Senate race polls*

No, sometimes they get it right.

They use polls to push an agenda. Polls are mostly worthless unless just prior to an election. We all knew McCain would lose he sealed this himself when he complained at Republicans for using Obamas middle name.

We knew no such thing. McCain made his share of mistakes and yes he needed to hit Obama harder but if you rank the moratorium on the use of “Hussein” as the nail in his coffin instead of the economic implosion then well….. I’ll just say your read on the situation is interesting.

You can not win by protecting your opponent.

True enough. There is a balance that must be struck though. McCain was too kid gloves for my taste but you aren’t going to attract a majority if all you do is turn red and scream “SOCIALIST! ANTI-COLONIALIST SECRET MUSLIM TRAITOR!” at Obama either.

Little doubt in my mind Mitt will do the same thing once the nomination is secured.

Now there are a ton of bad things that can rightly be said about Mitt Romney but that he protects his opponent is not one of them. Mitt is the dirtiest, slimiest player we’ve had on our side in years. The one core belief I think he has is that Mitt Romney should be president and, true to form for a good businessman, he looks like he will do whatever it takes for him to win. Of everything that could make him lose the general, an unwillingness to drag Obama down into the mud for the first time in his career isn’t likely to be one of them.

It is impossible to find Mitt criticizing a very liberal Democrat prior to 2005 when he started running as a fake conservative just like McCain. Before that he loved to criticize conservative Democrats and Republicans.

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM

You’ll get no argument from me that he doesn’t have all the great conservative instincts I would like to see in a candidate but it looks like he’s what we’re getting so there’s probably not much to be gained at this point by complaining. Personally I’m holding out for a more conservative Senate to keep him in line, and maybe that some of his late-stage seeing of the light is genuine.

alchemist19 on February 5, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Whoops: Just read the link where PPP took those polls today. Feb. 4 is the date on the statement.

Philly on February 5, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Bottom falling from under Gingrich?

One can but hope.

captn2fat on February 5, 2012 at 5:08 PM

“Bottom falling from under Gingrich?”

Oh, please, please, please, with sugar on top…and chocolate sprinkles…and marshmallows…and pistachios…and Oreo crumbles…and chocolate chunks…and Reese’s Pieces…and walnuts…and M&Ms…and chocolate whipped cream…and Irish coffee-flavoured whipped cream…and a cherry…no, make that three cherries!

I am sooooooooooooooooooo tired of his pomposity, perfidy, petulance, poutiness, protestations about perceived aggressions, perspicaciouslessness (pardon the neologism for the sake of alliteration), pusillanimity (to admit the truth and his own weaknesses), and prevarications that the only time that I ever again want to see his name is in the queue at the market on the front of the National Enquirer:

“Masseuse: ‘He’s a crazed s-e-x poodle and demanded that I release his second chakra.”

Newt Gingrich is so totally going Al Gore…only he is not going to wind up with the cult-like followers.

Resist We Much on February 5, 2012 at 5:08 PM

but you aren’t going to attract a majority if all you do is turn red and scream “SOCIALIST! ANTI-COLONIALIST SECRET MUSLIM TRAITOR!” at Obama either.
alchemist19 on February 5, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Did not say that. But not allowing the use of his middle name even Obama said was on limits (at least when any mike was near). To not allow the criticism of the church he attended for twenty long years with a pastor that was like family according to Obama. These were definitely on limits to any sane man thus the name McInsane.

People admit Mitt was very liberal till 2005. What on earth made him change than other than his desire to run for President? I say he changed nothing but his words. Is there any evidence to the contrary if so I have not heard of it here. Words are not evidence. Vetoes that get overridden are not evidence. Not allowing Gay Marriage to out of state people is meaningless. Especially when his actions derailed using Civil Unions instead two times.

We should definately abandon Mitt. Perhaps all the nominees for President on the Republican side.

I am not saying I have an answer at this point. Newt has proven he does not have what it takes. Santorum never had national name recognition and would most likely lose but I say him at this point at least he has no chance of endorsing Obama like McCain sort of did and Mitt would most likely. I mean Obama is Mitt’s pre 2005 perfect candidate for President.

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 5:18 PM

People admit Mitt was very liberal till 2005. What on earth made him change than other than his desire to run for President? I say he changed nothing but his words. Is there any evidence to the contrary if so I have not heard of it here. Words are not evidence. Vetoes that get overridden are not evidence. Not allowing Gay Marriage to out of state people is meaningless. Especially when his actions derailed using Civil Unions instead two times.

Mitt wasn’t “very liberal” until 2005. If he was very liberal he probably would have been more in favor of a socialized single-payer health care system as opposed to what ended up passing. He was a moderate until 2005 and probably still is now.

Vetoes that get overridden aren’t eveidence? What? So when Dubya had his stem cell research veto overridden that meant that he really… no… just no…… You’ve shot your credibility if you seriously think that.

We should definately abandon Mitt. Perhaps all the nominees for President on the Republican side.

I am not saying I have an answer at this point. Newt has proven he does not have what it takes. Santorum never had national name recognition and would most likely lose but I say him at this point at least he has no chance of endorsing Obama like McCain sort of did and Mitt would most likely. I mean Obama is Mitt’s pre 2005 perfect candidate for President.

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Remember that credibility you shot earlier? You just took it out back, covered it in gasoline, set it on fire and buried the ashes in a very deep hole.

alchemist19 on February 5, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Newt Gingrich is so totally going Al Gore…only he is not going to wind up with the cult-like followers.

Resist We Much on February 5, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Funny.

Mitt is much much more like Al Gore both pushed for but Mitt actually got carbon trading. Both are very rich. Both felt entitled to their parties nomination.

Newt always knew getting the nomination would be very difficult. Newt is well off but hardly insanely rich like Mitt and Al. Newt was for a while tempted to believe Global Warming but always fought Al Gore.

But then to Newt was always far to much big government. He seems to have forgotten it was a democrat who pushed for going to the moon but he is a historian. Thus he must instead fashion himself being much more like Kennedy than Regan. Although he pushed for this to be done privately the prices would have still meant it would be publicly funded. Besides it is very hard for me to phantom how it would help America. It would make more sense to give a prize to someone who could make a robot with actual intelligence that looked human and could do most field work by learning it from human field workers. That is the real future. Not that distant either Newt could have most likely accomplished that by 2020 with only a modest prize.

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Romney is not McCain. How many times do we have to go thru this same crap.

1. McCain couldn’t string 3 coherent sentences together, on top of which he mumbled. By contrast, Romney is telegenic and articulate.

2. Nothing will unify the center-right of this nation more than getting rid of Obama. This is where Romney’s crossover appeal will have a tremendous impact. Conservatives and Republicans will vote for anyone to get rid of Obama.

3. Romney will force the Dems to go broke defending Blue states, including NJ, CT, MI, WI, PA, IA, MN and more. In fact, Romney will carry several of these states.

4. Romney will be able to match Obama dollar-for-dollar and he has a tremendous grassroots organization in essentially all 50 states.

5. Obama has a record and it’s a lousy one. This election will be a referendum on it. Romney passes the “plausible alternative” test with flying colors.

matthew8787 on February 5, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Steveangell on February 5, 2012 at 5:31 PM

I support no one, but will vote for a ChiaPet over Obama in November so there’s no need to bring up Mitt with me. I have gone after both of them, as well as Santorum, Paul and Obama on my blog. The truth doesn’t have a party affiliation.

Resist We Much on February 5, 2012 at 5:46 PM

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