Reid: No, I don’t plan to bring a budget to the floor this year

posted at 3:40 pm on February 3, 2012 by Tina Korbe

It’s been more than 1,000 days since the Senate has passed a budget, but Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid is unconcerned. In fact, he says he has no plans to bring a budget to the floor in 2012, either. He argues the 2012 budget is already done because last summer’s debt-ceiling deal included a few spending caps. Essentially, Reid wonders: Why do we need a long-term spending plan when we can stumble into some spending caps here and there? The Hill was first to this story:

“We do not need to bring a budget to the floor this year — it’s done, we don’t need to do it,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters on Friday, echoing previous statements from his office.

Reid and Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.) argued that the debt-limit agreement in August directs spending for the next year and that Senate Appropriations Chairman Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii) has already asked the heads of the subcommittees to write their bills for fiscal 2013.

Senate Budget Chairman Kent Conrad (D-N.D.) has said he would probably mark up a budget resolution this year to appease ranking member Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), but Reid said he didn’t expect any floor action on any measure produced by the panel. …

Schumer said it is a “total falsity” for Republicans to say that Democrats haven’t passed the budget: “we passed it on Aug. 2.”

“They’re attacking us because they have nothing better to do,” Reid said. “They need something else to talk about.”

If what Reid and Schumer are arguing is that the Senate doesn’t need to pass a formal budget resolution to enable the government to spend taxpayer money irresponsibly, then they’re right. For the past couple years, while the Senate Budget Democrats have sat on their hands, failing to submit a budget resolution to the full Senate, the Senate Appropriations Committee has still authorized ungodly amounts of discretionary spending.

But if what Reid and Schumer are saying is that they’ve followed the law and submitted a budget resolution, then they’re flat-out wrong. The Congressional Budget Act requires the president to submit a budget to Congress by Feb. 1 every year. The Senate Budget Committee is to report a budget resolution to the full Senate by April 1. The House and Senate are to reach agreement on a concurrent budget resolution by April 15. Senate Budget Democrats haven’t submitted a budget since 2009.

Here’s why it matters: The Appropriations Committee determines levels of discretionary spending. Approps don’t touch mandatory spending. But mandatory spending constitutes about 60 percent of all federal spending — and mandatory programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security drive our deficits and debt. Without the imposition of budget discipline, these programs grow on autopilot.

By never submitting a budget, enacting a few discretionary spending caps as a part of the Budget Control Act (a.k.a. the debt ceiling deal) and punting to the Super Committee that also punted on entitlement reform, Democrats avoid any difficult discussion of how to ensure the solvency of our entitlement programs. With no plan of their own on the table, they’re free to shoot down anything Republicans propose.

It’s no secret why no one wants to touch entitlements — but it is still the shame of Washington that nobody will.


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There is no need for it

liberal4life moron4life

FIFY.

xblade on February 3, 2012 at 5:35 PM

SSDD. He is a derelict. And, creepy. Just creepy. I wonder what skeletons are in his closet.

totherightofthem on February 3, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Ahhh, but to they provide wine and cheese?

antipc on February 3, 2012 at 4:21 PM

With Volvo parts, yes.

PersonFromPorlock on February 3, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Don’t know if anyone’s mentioned it, but it looks like Paul Ryan linked to Tina’s piece on Facebook. Congrats!

mikeyboss on February 3, 2012 at 5:46 PM

reid = worthless.

cougar on February 3, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Democrats are Above the Law.

liberal4life on February 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Del Dolemonte on February 3, 2012 at 6:03 PM

So what’s new?

chewmeister on February 3, 2012 at 6:35 PM

If in 2012 the House republicans allow the government to be funded under another continuing resolution, it will just demonstrate that while the bus is being driven over the cliff by our elected and administrative officials the only difference between the democrats and republicans is the democrats will drive the bus faster than the republicans. The bus will still be going over the cliff. Sort of like Thelma and Louise all over again…AAAhhhhhhhhh.

DVPTexFla on February 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Somewhere in Searchlight, a village is missing its idiot.

ZK on February 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM

This is what we get when our leaders sold us out. What were they thinking giving them a blank check: a debt ceiling increase with no budget? Next time make a budget a prerequisite for raising the debt ceiling.

munseym on February 3, 2012 at 7:20 PM

What “Law” are the monies “Appropriated” from? Is there some Law that passed which said that allows random handouts can be made? Are they just being earmarked on whatever thousand page garbage they are voting on? Is there a pool of money just sitting in a vault that says some random anti-American can write a receipt for some withdrawal?

The Constitution is clear, so the money going out has to of been from a Law…and the Constitution makes clear what a Law is.

John Kettlewell on February 3, 2012 at 8:07 PM

dereliction of duty, they should be removed from office by marshalls. i’m sick of this trend where lawmakers get away acting like children, avoiding to votes by any measure, even in some cases if it means fleeing their districts or states and hiding from the press. what in the world have we become?

exceller on February 3, 2012 at 8:11 PM

Why does Nevada keep voting in a Senator that doesn’t do his job?

sadatoni on February 3, 2012 at 8:21 PM

There is no need for it

liberal4life on February 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM

There is no need for what?
You are like a bowl of alphbet soup, that spells nothing!

liberal4life on February 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Can we have one thread where we don’t feed the troll?

GeorgieGirl9 on February 3, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Oh please, but this one is special! Usually you have to pay an admission to see someone like this!
I think lobotomy4life was an experiment in artificial stupidity, that gets out of the basement once in a while. Even has a bedtime!

KOOLAID2 on February 3, 2012 at 8:26 PM

Somewhere in Searchlight, a village is missing its idiot.

ZK on February 3, 2012 at 7:02 PM

how is he an idiot concerning the budget?

As Tina points out:

By never submitting a budget, enacting a few discretionary spending caps as a part of the Budget Control Act (a.k.a. the debt ceiling deal) and punting to the Super Committee that also punted on entitlement reform, Democrats avoid any difficult discussion of how to ensure the solvency of our entitlement programs. With no plan of their own on the table, they’re free to shoot down anything Republicans propose.

Harry Reid knows that the Republicans in Congress have no backbone so why would he call of a budget?

They can add continuing resolutions, raise the debt ceiling or whatever they do to keep the budget going and the Republicans will be off hiding someplace.

joey24007 on February 3, 2012 at 8:34 PM

Reid: No, I don’t plan to bring a budget to the floor this year

Hey, no problem, Harry. The Media has your back. Budget? Who needs a budget. Let’s go shopping!

minnesoter on February 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

So what exactly are the consequences of the Senate and even Majority Leader of not submitting and passing a budget, by law? Anything?

If the Repubes had any gonads, they’d get impeachment proceedings started on Harry Reid for dereliction of duty, or whatever can be filed. Can you imagine the double-take he’d do? In the meantime the Hos in Nevada could start recall proceedings for same.

I mean, what exactly, has the Senate and the House for that matter been doing all this time while collecting a paycheck? Remind me again what exactly we pay them for?

And has anyone heard anything at all from Speaker Boehner in the last six months? Anything?

They sit up there collecting paychecks which amount to absolutely nothing compared to what they are collecting or going to collect from all of the back room deals and legislation they pass for their buds, while pissing down our necks and claiming it is nothing but a little rain.

We are so screwed as a nation.

Tenwheeler on February 3, 2012 at 8:36 PM

Can we impeach Senators? Or can only the Citizens of Nevada do it?

Don’t Senators swear an Oath to support the Constitution? That Constitution which requires Congress to pass an annual budget?

No budget? FOUR YEARS IN A ROW?

For cryin’ out loud…I’d be crying if it wasn’t time for tar and feathers on this criminally negligent duty-delinquent antique Obama-boot-licking honor-less sycophant who should be brought up on charges as a traitor.

I’ve exhausted my vocabulary on this evil bastiche.

Who is John Galt on February 3, 2012 at 8:38 PM

How do they get AWAY with this?

Why do we LET them get away with this?

Who is John Galt on February 3, 2012 at 8:41 PM

So what exactly are the consequences of the Senate and even Majority Leader of not submitting and passing a budget, by law? Anything?

They just continue with the old budget.

If the Repubes had any gonads, they’d get impeachment proceedings started on Harry Reid for dereliction of duty, or whatever can be filed. Can you imagine the double-take he’d do? In the meantime the Hos in Nevada could start recall proceedings for same.

The House did impeach a Senator once, but it is common for each chamber to determine who should be kicked out or not.

The Republicans should write up a budget after the president submits his requests and hold a press conference everyday asking the Senate to write up their own so there can be a conference.

joey24007 on February 3, 2012 at 8:46 PM

Reid: No, I don’t plan to bring a budget to the floor this year

First words that come to my mind: “You Big Terd.”

Lawrence on February 3, 2012 at 8:57 PM

There is no need for it

liberal4life on February 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM
libby4life, the gift that keeps on giving.

I hate to say this but in libby’s case I would actually support abortion.

NapaConservative on February 3, 2012 at 4:01 PM

I think It’s parents tried, but failed!
That’s why it is like it is!
Rumor has it… It’s parents were siblings.

KOOLAID2 on February 3, 2012 at 9:05 PM

“I can’t help wondering if the day may yet come when the only thing that can save this country is a military coup.” Thomas Sowell, May 2007

Coolidge on February 3, 2012 at 9:13 PM

OK OK! Look at Harry Reid’s face!
….now look up at Ruthy Ginsburg!
..no!..not there!…at her face!
Woah! Let’s start some talk! Siblings!

KOOLAID2 on February 3, 2012 at 9:19 PM

The bus will still be going over the cliff. Sort of like Thelma and Louise all over again…AAAhhhhhhhhh.

DVPTexFla on February 3, 2012 at 6:50 PM

How right you are! When I get calls from Repub. Nat’l Comm. asking for money, I tell them two things: I only support the Catholic church; and where are the Repubs. with any backbone fighting this corrupt Pres. and Senate? They have nothing to say, and I hang up. The whole scenario is beyond belief….

chai on February 3, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Budge-its? We don’t need no stinkink budge-its!

minnesoter on February 3, 2012 at 9:26 PM

“I can’t help wondering if the day may yet come when the only thing that can save this country is a military coup.” Thomas Sowell, May 2007

Coolidge on February 3, 2012 at 9:13 PM

That day will be 11/6/12 if Zero and his Czars and his Attorney General get re-elected.

Who is John Galt on February 3, 2012 at 9:38 PM

Paul Ryan was on tv/radio, saying that during March they will get the “baseline” numbers to write the next budget. The one that is running now is the last fussing you remember, a Continuing resolution to run the government, which included that Super committee, that gave us the automatic cuts, which you may not have noticed, but that is where some of the cuts in the military budget are coming from.

That “budget” goes from October 2011 to October 2012.

Harry Reid says it is a budget. Therefore, someone should write it down and make him pass it, now that we know what is in it. Put his budget in writing, put it in the newspaper, and say: This is Obama and Harry Reid’s budget. Obama did submit a budget which was defeated, including in the Democrat House under Democrat majority leader Reid.

I would like a TV ad made showing what Harry Reid and Obama’s budget is, and showing how it contains significantly more than the last budget for 2008. Some say the stimulus enlarged some departmental budgets by 25% to start! Heresay, I don’t have the data.

Ryan said that they would prepare a budget from the House, again, like the one they did last time, and to expect the House to do it, at least. It will be the budget for October 2012 to 2013, with an unknown president in charge.

However, it gives the House the opportunity to challenge Obama’s intentions in his own budget, and make him own his budget and his ideas for the presidential election year. Obama does not have the luxury this time of saying he will pass his budget to find out what is in it, while Reid has been getting away with it by continuing to fund current (CR) levels of government or schemes.

I think we need to get rid of the CR to fund the budget without voting. There is no tool other than “horreurs” shutting down the government.

Fleuries on February 3, 2012 at 9:44 PM

“I can’t help wondering if the day may yet come when the only thing that can save this country is a military coup.” Thomas Sowell, May 2007

Coolidge on February 3, 2012 at 9:13 PM

And unless the ‘coup’ sets it up like “Starship Troopers” which our current crop of perfumed-prince political “Generals” would never do, we’ll wind up with more or les the same-ole-same-ole.

But with more rigorous and forceful “discipline”. As long as it happens before Zero’s “civilian force” (gestapo), I’d prefer the current US Army, thank you.

Who is John Galt on February 3, 2012 at 9:46 PM

liberal4life on February 3, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Can we have one thread where we don’t feed the troll?

GeorgieGirl9 on February 3, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Oh please, but this one is special! Usually you have to pay an admission to see someone like this!
I think lobotomy4life was an experiment in artificial stupidity, that gets out of the basement once in a while. Even has a bedtime!

There’s nothing artificial about lib4life’s stupidity. It’s definitely organic.

DevilsPrinciple on February 3, 2012 at 10:27 PM

They still need to provide a budget by April 1 for fiscal year 2013. If the GOP had any balls, they would say we are proposing one budget this year and we will settle the differences in conference committee. Then pass the most conservative version of the Simpson-Bowles commission and dare the Democrats to block it. This was a bi-partisan panel created by Obama. Waste of tax dollars? Hope we can not count on?
Then you can remind people how the President promised to cut the deficit to %533 by the end of his first term in 2009, the same year he told us that he didn’t have the economy turned around by his third year he’d be a one-term President.

djaymick on February 3, 2012 at 10:31 PM

That’s why, after the 2010 election, many of us felt the Republicans would seize the moment and deal with this problem. It’s not that Reid has flumoxed them, it’s that there’s no leadership in the Republican caucus coming up with a devious plan to force the Democrats to do the right thing. McConnell is about worthless in the Senate and Boehner is too chicken to do the right thing in the House.

If I were in the House, I would be sending budgets to the Senate on a daily basis, and calling a press conference every time I did it. I’d be informing the public that the Senate has been hiding excessive spending from the Republican House and not allowing the Republicans, who won big in the election, to have ANY say in the budget process. There’s only one reason this game is being played like this, the press is AWOL and the Republicans in the Senate aren’t pushing their Senate colleagues to take their responsibilities seriously.

bflat879 on February 3, 2012 at 10:55 PM

The politicians of the two establishment parties are treasonous criminals who are guilty of failing to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution and thus the United States of America. Criminals all.

AttaBoyLuther on February 3, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Strong push to recall or impeach Reid should be underway soon. Terrible “leader” for our country.

Amazingoly on February 4, 2012 at 6:43 AM

Someone please tell my why this is NOT dereliction of duty.
PLEASE?
And of course the LSM blames the GOP who HAS presented a friggin’ budget every year!

Wake me up when this fustercluck is over.
Because I want my country back dammit!

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on February 4, 2012 at 9:39 AM

There is no need for it

liberal4life on February 3, 2012 at 3:59

PM

Of all your comments this is the stupidest – and that’s saying something.

independentvoice on February 4, 2012 at 3:41 PM

You know, lib4life, I am really getting tired of paying your internet access via your welfare check…maybe if you were part of the small percentage of us paying for all you on the lamb in this country your skewed viewpoint would be 180 degrees…Why don’t you just move to Cuba were all you fantasies that you so desire exist today

LaRepublican on February 4, 2012 at 8:50 PM

This is on purpose. Without any Budget you just spend, spend,and spend without anything in your way to stop it.

MSGTAS on February 5, 2012 at 9:27 AM

When the patient has internal bleeding that resists all attempts to stop it, the surest way to kill the patient is to administer blood thinners like the Fed has done.

Now we’re hemorrhaging cash, and dingy Harry is content to watch it happen.

His smug little cretin-face really irks me.

rwenger43 on February 5, 2012 at 2:52 PM

All things great and small start in little seemingly insignificant ways.
1. I have the “hope to change” the establishment.
2. I do not need the forced restraints of a budget to fulfill my destiny.
3. I do not need an armed civilian population to stand in the way of MY “hope and change”.
4. I need MY private Army to do MY work with in the Continental US.
5. I do not need a dysfunctional congress for “Hope and Change”.
6. I do not need a Congress except to do what I tell them to do.
7. I need to redistribute the wealth from the rich to the poor.
8. I do not need other authority figures of religion to compete or my place over the people.
9. The Press and Internet must be controlled.
10. They don’t understand, and tell lies about me, only I tell the truth.
11. I must remain true to with MY certain rich friends, foreign and domestic, for only they will help
me when in need.
12. This I tell all is my Ordained Destiny of “Hope and Change”.
Careful all who may read this. 11 November is close at hand and this may well be our last chance to get
it wright.
We have a Government and especially the Congress that has enacted so many laws and procedures to
protect themselves that changes from the out side is virtually impossible.
We have an election system that essentially prohibits any one other than a Democrat or a Republican
from being elected President of the US. Statistically a Third Party Candidate would need about 60% of
the populous vote (last one was George Washington) to be considered, and the election may still be
determined in congress over the objections of the people.
The Constitution outline FIVE (5) branches of government, that are meant to balance.
1. The Administrative
2. The Legislative
3. The Judicial
4. We the People
5. The Free Press (Internet also)
It is in my opinion, that “We the People” that have failed the system the most. For we allowed and
encouraged it all to happen. This November 11 may be our last chance to save this great nation from
itself.
VOTE WISE MY FRIENDS.

jpcpt03 on February 5, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Interpreted: ” We will spend every single penny we can.”

FineasFinn on February 6, 2012 at 8:51 AM

There’s only one reason this game is being played like this, the press is AWOL and the Republicans in the Senate aren’t pushing their Senate colleagues to take their responsibilities seriously.

bflat879 on February 3, 2012 at 10:55 PM

If you believe the press has been AWOL, you haven’t been watching. The press is why we’re at the point we are. A free and even somewhat objective press would have raked the democrats over the coals as completely as they’ve raked the republicans. Since the press is a one-party dictatorship, this has not happened.

Blame the people all you like (I certainly do), but they’re just doing what they’re told. All the alternative media in the world has not made a single dent in the echo chamber that is the modern American press. The internet hasn’t changed a thing. People still want to be told what to do, and they still want to follow.

There is a sizeable chunk of the electorate who will never, under any circumstances, vote for anyone but a democrat. Not because they think democrats are smart, or brave, or even have their best interests at heart (well, the really dumb democrats think all these things). No, it’s because they’ve been conditioned for their entire lives to see republicans as pure unadulterated evil. And they believe it. And you’ll rarely get one to change their minds.

They actually believe Bush took down the twin towers. And caused hurricane Katrina. And blew up the levees in NOLA. And any number of other things that are just as ridiculous. You can’t argue someone out of a position they weren’t argued into in the first place. They’re indoctrinated, and most are lost causes. We’ll never make inroads with such a mentality.

runawayyyy on February 6, 2012 at 5:18 PM

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