Top Susan G. Komen official resigns over decision to cut Planned Parenthood funding

posted at 5:25 pm on February 2, 2012 by Tina Korbe

The drama continues to deepen.

When the board of directors of the Susan G. Komen Foundation decided to halt funding to notorious abortion provider Planned Parenthood, abortion activists launched an informal investigation. Something sinister was happening here; some pro-life plague had to have infiltrated Komen. They pinned their attention on Komen’s relatively new VP, Karen Handel, an admittedly pro-life former Republican candidate for the governor of Georgia. They pointed out that the announcement of Republican Rep. Cliff Stearns’ investigation into Planned Parenthood preceded Komen’s revision of its grant eligibility criteria, which now excludes any organization under investigation by local, state or national government. From that, they concluded that Komen tweaked its criteria precisely to exclude Planned Parenthood. Komen made the rule to exclude under-investigation organizations just because Planned Parenthood was under investigation.

Now, critics of Komen’s decision bring up almost gleefully the resignation of Komen’s top public health official, Mollie Williams. While Williams herself has not said whether her resignation was a reaction to Komen’s decision, National Journal reports that her former senior communications adviser says she left because she just couldn’t stay at an organization that would bow to pressure from the anti-abortion right. Further confirmation that Komen’s decision was politically motivated!

OK, I say. Let’s say it was. Let’s say Komen decided to drop funding to PP because they didn’t want a penny of the money they work so creatively to raise to go to an organization that also provides abortions. Komen officials knew Komen grant money was earmarked by Planned Parenthood expressly for cancer screenings, but they also knew that any dollar Planned Parenthood didn’t have to come up with itself for a cancer screening was a dollar the organization could put toward an abortion instead. Komen officials didn’t want to make abortion any easier or more available than it already is.

So what? Does that lessen the nobility of Komen’s mission to fight breast cancer? Komen did have something to gain by bowing to pro-life pressure — credibility as an organization exclusively dedicated to the eradication of breast cancer and as an organization uniquely poised to receive donations from pro-choice and pro-life donors who, alike, want to eliminate a silent killer of women.

Do the very same folks who say that cancer doesn’t care whether you’re pro-choice or pro-life care whether a cancer-fighting organization is pro-choice or pro-life? Apparently, they do. Even liberal senators want in on the act of criticizing Komen: The Washington Post’s Greg Sargent reports that two dozen senators have written a letter to Komen’s directors to ask them to reconsider the Planned Parenthood decision. If all these critics were pleading with Komen just to ensure that the women who in the past have turned to Planned Parenthood for Komen-funded cancer screenings will still have access to those services some other way, then I would understand. But they’re not; they’re explicitly pleading with Komen to fund Planned Parenthood, as though PP is the only organization that can use Komen’s money to provide low-income women with life-saving services.

This decision has caused a stir for one reason and one reason only: It has revealed that it is possible to advocate for “women’s health” without advocating for “abortion rights.” Do abortion rights activists now want to admit by their disowning of Komen that they don’t actually care about other aspects of women’s health? Or might they admit that an organization focused solely on the prevention and treatment of breast cancer need not donate to an organization that is far less focused in its mission — and even promotes procedures that some consider harmful to women — to prove its “women’s health” credentials?


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S.G. Komen was funding P.P. knowing full well that P.P. is nothing more than an slaughterhouse; something that everyone knows. How many babies were murdered using S.G.Komen funds?

Pork-Chop on February 2, 2012 at 6:05 PM

How about a link to one embryonic stem cell therapy that has worked.
Lots of adult stem cell therapies out there though.

chemman on February 2, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Even if it did work, it would require permanent immune system suppression against rejection.

astonerii on February 2, 2012 at 6:06 PM

18-1 on February 2, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Gotcha…

My bad. :)

catmman on February 2, 2012 at 6:07 PM

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:03 PM

You’re a devout Christian that gets excited about Planned Parenthood donations soaring? You like abortions do you?

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Actually, they’ve put cancer above abortion

Money quote! Amen!

graywaiter on February 2, 2012 at 6:07 PM

that two dozen senators have written a letter to Komen’s directors to ask them to reconsider the Planned Parenthood decision.

Lemme guess , these 2 doz dems get laundered taxpayer money from PP ?

burrata on February 2, 2012 at 6:07 PM

That’s what this is really about. Forcing women into Christianity or right wing groups if they want to be able to check if their uterus is growing a malignant tumor. Komen foundation makes me sick.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Don’t worry. We’ve seen how people like yourself don’t care about women’s health, given your support of abortionists and abortion clinics like the Gosnell clinic where women actually die.

Isn’t that hilarious? Obama puppets like yourself protect clinics that kill women because they funnel campaign contributions to you. That’s all you care about is the campaign contributions; you don’t care if an abortion clinic regularly kills women as long as they give to the Obama Party and to Barack Obama.

northdallasthirty on February 2, 2012 at 6:08 PM

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/02/02/Planned-Parenthood-donations-swell/UPI-16641328220353/

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Leave it to liberals to declare a short term gain vs a long term loss.

Which continues to beg the question: If they can raise funds through donations, why do they need Gov taxpayer dollars and a private charity’s???

And why is PP freaking out if this money is easily replaceable?

Odie1941 on February 2, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Komen officials knew Komen grant money was earmarked by Planned Parenthood expressly for cancer screenings, but they also knew that any dollar Planned Parenthood didn’t have to come up with itself for a cancer screening was a dollar the organization could put toward an abortion instead.

Well Tina, then you are calling Komen officials liars. They claim that this move is only related to the fact that PP is under investigation by the government and their new policies demand that no group can be under investigation by the government and receive Komen funds. Why are you accusing them of lying to us?

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Charismatics are not evangelical?

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Painting with to broad a brush hawk. While there are Charismatics that aren’t evangelical far more are. I would agree if you had said they weren’t fundamentalists since the fundamentalists follow dispensationalism.

chemman on February 2, 2012 at 6:09 PM

That’s what this is really about. Forcing women into Christianity or right wing groups if they want to be able to check if their uterus is growing a malignant tumor. Komen foundation makes me sick.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Their are plenty of religiously neutral organizations that provide free or low cost screenings.

Here’s one:

CDC’s National Breast and Cervical Cancer Early Detection Program (NBCCEDP) provides access to breast and cervical cancer screening services to underserved women in all 50 states, the District of Columbia, 5 U.S. territories, and 12 tribes.

That money formerly earmarked for PP could now go to the CDC program or could be donated directly to local hospitals to help offset the costs of free or reduce-cost breast cancer screenings.

Neither of those options forces women to Christianity or any other ideology.

Komen didn’t say, “Well, we can’t give that money to PP anymore so we’ll spend it on Slurpees!”. The money will likely go to similar organizations to fund similar programs but with the stigma of PP removed Komen will be better able to fund raise. More money = more women helped (which seems like a good thing to me).

JadeNYU on February 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM

When I was a kiddo at age 19 and needed a regular annual exam, I went to planned parenthood. All I needed was a physical. When I walked in the door they assumed I was there to end a pregnancy. When they realized why I was there they said they’d have to “re-schedule” me in a few months.

I walked out. The entire place was an abortion factory. It was obvious.

I’ll take the Susan G. Komen Foundation over PP any day. Susan B. Komen Foundation represents preserving life. The PP agency represents death on demand.

Key West Reader on February 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM

You’re a devout Christian that gets excited about Planned Parenthood donations soaring? You like abortions do you?

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 6:07 PM

My entire family is Christian, my entire family is pro-choice and we’re not the only ones. Thankfully our relationship to Christ is between us and individuals and the Lord and isn’t really up for debate, discussion or investigation by others.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Mmm…Burritos on February 2, 2012 at 5:54 PM

From your link:

Ask your health care provider, health department, or staff at your local Planned Parenthood health center about where you can get a mammogram in your area.

In other words- Come in, ask us about a mammogram, and we will tell you where there is a doctor, clinic, health fair, etc. where you can get one.

If you have actual information that 10% of PP offices actually have equipment and offer mammograms onsite, I’d love to see it.

cs89 on February 2, 2012 at 6:11 PM

You’re a devout Christian that gets excited about Planned Parenthood donations soaring? You like abortions do you?

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Yup. Libfreeordie is a good baby-killer who gets paid from the revenue from abortions. The more babies that are killed, the more flows into Obama Party campaign coffers and the higher the pay rate for Libfreeordie goes.

That’s really all this is about. Obama Party puppets just lost a major source of money to launder to Obama Party political campaigns, and they’re pissed. They were budgeting for that Komen money to be used for this re-election cycle.

That’s also why abortionists like Libfreeordie oppose ANYTHING that will reduce the abortion rate, including things like parental consent, requiring clinics to notify the police, and so forth. That’s why they also oppose anything that would decrease the profit margin from abortions, such as requiring abortion clinics to follow the same requirements as other outpatient surgical clinics, submit to regular inspections, and be required to maintain the same type of medical records and standards. This is all expensive, and it would cut down the amount of money the abortion mills can send to the Obama Party.

northdallasthirty on February 2, 2012 at 6:11 PM

How utterly and completely clueless of you. Planned Parenthood has performed *millions* of free breast and uteral cancer screenings for women all over the country. Along with pap smears and other gynecological check ups. What’s really ridiculous about this is that Planned Parenthood provides women with affordable pre-natal care for when they want to carry their babies to term. They are a women’s reproductive health service and that includes breast, uteral cancer. God the *ignorance* of some people.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 5:47 PM

You can get this services for free or reduced prices elsewhere. I’m going to go out in a limb and say that if you’re going to open your legs, you better be ready to pay for the baby. Getting knocked up is not a human right and I don’t want to pay for you not using birth control. A box of condoms saves you from STDs and have a baby until you are ready. And they are cheap. We all know why PP exists. Abortion is their business and that’s where they get most of their money. It’s just that people like yourself are too ignorant or politically polarized to admit it.

BedBug on February 2, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Isn’t that hilarious? Obama puppets like yourself protect clinics that kill women because they funnel campaign contributions to you. That’s all you care about is the campaign contributions; you don’t care if an abortion clinic regularly kills women as long as they give to the Obama Party and to Barack Obama.

northdallasthirty on February 2, 2012 at 6:08 PM

You’re nuts.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:12 PM

astonerii on February 2, 2012 at 6:06 PM

I understand that but first things first. No research to date has shown it to be usable. It is all hope & hope when it comes to embryonic stem cell research.

chemman on February 2, 2012 at 6:12 PM

That’s what this is really about. Forcing women into Christianity or right wing groups if they want to be able to check if their uterus is growing a malignant tumor. Komen foundation makes me sick.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 5:50 PM

This is such propaganda. In the fiscal year 2007-2008, PP had end of year 85 million dollars in PROFIT, and this is after expenses. SGK only gives $600,000. Maybe you libs should be harassing PP as to why their profit margin is so high. Maybe they can help a little more poor women, since we know they don’t help children!

melle1228 on February 2, 2012 at 6:13 PM

You’re nuts.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Down to name calling now.

chemman on February 2, 2012 at 6:13 PM

That’s what this is really about. Forcing women into Christianity or right wing groups if they want to be able to check if their uterus is growing a malignant tumor. Komen foundation makes me sick.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 5:50 PM

Only a leftist would consider a baby a “malignant tumor”.

Ugh.

Key West Reader on February 2, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Yup. Libfreeordie is a good baby-killer who gets paid from the revenue from abortions. The more babies that are killed, the more flows into Obama Party campaign coffers and the higher the pay rate for Libfreeordie goes.

Everytime I think you can’t get any nuttier, you take it to a new level. Au revoir for now caro NDT, keep taking the lithium there’s bound to be progress….eventually.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Komen was apparently providing funding to PP to cover mammograms which were not being conducted by PP but rather by (unaffiliated?) agencies to which the women were referred by PP. See quote below from Ed’s 2/01 post on this subject.

The key in the Komen decision is the grant criteria it uses to make grants. That has changed from “pass-through” grants, which allowed agencies like Planned Parenthood to receive grants that allowed it to make referrals for women to receive mammograms from other agencies to outcome based programs. Planned Parenthood does not perform mammograms at any of its centers across the United States, something Komen has acknowledged).

So, the women needing mammograms can go to the same places they are going now, without the referral from PP, and Komen can pay these clinics on an “outcomes basis” (if Komen wants to keep financing the mammograms without the need to flow the funds through PP). The outrage on the left, and the Senators’ distress, seems to be about the challenge to the public perception of PP as the preeminent provider of “women’s health services” more than anything else (and of course, in the Senators’ case, to the idea that a private organization can and does make its own choices about how to allocate its funding).

People who want to fund abortions, or who want to fund organizations that perform abortions, can donate to PP – and be honest with themselves that it is abortions they are financing. People who are more interested in preventing, detecting and curing breast cancer can donate to Komen. I have never donated to PP, but I’ll increase my giving to Komen on this basis.

PS – I wonder how much PP was skimming off of the Komen grants before paying the mammogram clinics.

Upstreamer on February 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Well Tina, then you are calling Komen officials liars. They claim that this move is only related to the fact that PP is under investigation by the government and their new policies demand that no group can be under investigation by the government and receive Komen funds. Why are you accusing them of lying to us?

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:09 PM

She’s not. You are just desperately trying to spin, flail, and attack to cover up the fact that you and your fellow baby-killers were planning on that money for the fall political campaigns.

Of course, conservatives know that abortions are a cash cow for the Obama Party, which is why abortionists like yourself fight so hard to increase the number of abortions, block anything that would reduce the number of abortions, and refuse to implement any sort of safety or practice standards that would increase abortion expenses and cut down on the profit the Obama Party makes from abortions.

northdallasthirty on February 2, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Thankfully our relationship to Christ is between us and individuals and the Lord and isn’t really up for debate, discussion or investigation by others.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM

What with the claims you make and the manner in which you use your Christianity as an anti-Christianity tool, I’d say it is.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 6:15 PM

Anyone remember this doozy?

Scrappy on February 2, 2012 at 6:16 PM

That’s what this is really about. Forcing women into Christianity or right wing groups if they want to be able to check if their uterus is growing a malignant tumor. Komen foundation makes me sick.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 5:50 PM

And, another thing: The LAST place I’d go if I were facing a possible diagnosis of cancer is Planned Parenthood. They are an abortion mill, not a provider of care. They are a provider of death on demand.

Key West Reader on February 2, 2012 at 6:16 PM

You’re nuts.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:12 PM

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.php?cmte=C00314617&cycle=2008

pambi on February 2, 2012 at 6:16 PM

What I savor most about this story is how it illustrates the weapons-grade hypocrisy of the left.

So a private organization like Komen declining to continue subsidizing an abortion provider is a crime against humanity because it will allegedly reduce women’s access to care. But if a Catholic charity is forced to stop offering services to the public altogether rather than violate their religious beliefs, well, that’s just too bad.

I say this as someone who’s basically pro-choice, who carries no particular brief for either Komen or for the Catholic Church: their leftist attackers are contemptible bigots, nothing more.

Centerfire on February 2, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Planned Parenthood is a disgusting organization. Kudos to Komen.

MisterPundit on February 2, 2012 at 6:17 PM

The question is not if women can get screenings at Planned Parenthood–some offer it and others do not. But the sheer incompetence, deception, and shameful operations that have been exposed nationwide are beneath the Komen Foundation, plain and simple.

Furthermore, let’s not pretend that women cannot get screenings and other services elsewhere. PP brought this on themselves by doing a piss poor job of doing what they do. Lila Rose has demonstrated this time and again and, philosophical issues aside, Komen can’t afford to pour money into an entity that lacks integrity.

GoodSamaritan on February 2, 2012 at 6:17 PM

No big surprise – both Democratic Senators from NJ signed the letter trying to insure abortion provider protection.

katiejane on February 2, 2012 at 6:17 PM

This is the same reason that Libfreeordie wants abortions funded with taxpayer dollars and to force insurance companies to pay for abortion. It is nothing but pure money laundering to Obama Party candidates, and their only goal is to increase costs.

The simple way to put Libfreeordie and its fellow abortionists out of business is a Federal mandate making it a crime for practitioners to charge for an abortion.

Planned Abortionhood would shut down in three days. Unless they can charge for abortions and direct money to Obama Party candidates, they have no reason to exist. None. They don’t care about women’s health, they don’t care about family planning, they only exist to do abortions and to fund Obama Party politicians.

northdallasthirty on February 2, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Thankfully our relationship to Christ is between us and individuals and the Lord and isn’t really up for debate, discussion or investigation by others.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Hail Mary, full of grace, abortions and PP are with thee
Blessed are though who kill fetuses and…

I am sure those moments are real “spiritual”

Odie1941 on February 2, 2012 at 6:18 PM

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM

I do believe Jesus did state that “by your fruits you shall know them” so while I can’t address what is inside your heart if your fruits don’t match what Jesus taught then there is a big disconnect.

chemman on February 2, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Bye, Mollie!

Tom C on February 2, 2012 at 6:18 PM

The organization has the right to use the money it raises from its donors in the way it sees fit.

Period.

If you don’t like what Komen does with the funds, don’t give to the organization.

ladyingray on February 2, 2012 at 6:19 PM

The Daily Kos — a group blog — is calling for people to stop donating to the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation and Susan G. Komen for the Cure fund until Lieberman’s wife, Hadassah Lieberman, is fired.
The Daily Kos: “When Komen dumps Lieberman, then we will all resume donating to them.”

hahahahahahahah! liberals donating to charities? hahahahahahah!

burserker on February 2, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Odie1941 on February 2, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Because they know it’s only replaceable as long as all eyes are on the issue and people are still posting about this on Facebook.

So, in about 1 week, the swell of money is gone.

JadeNYU on February 2, 2012 at 6:20 PM

They are a women’s reproductive health service and that includes breast, uteral cancer. God the *ignorance* of some people.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 5:47 PM

also includes drilling holes in baby’s head and sucking out the brains.

God the *ignorance* of some people.

Wade on February 2, 2012 at 6:20 PM

The organization has the right to use the money it raises from its donors in the way it sees fit.

Period.

If you don’t like what Komen does with the funds, don’t give to the organization.

ladyingray on February 2, 2012 at 6:19 PM

Problem is, libfreeordie and its fellow Obama Party members had already budgeted those funds for use in their campaigns.

That’s why they’re screaming so loud. Obama Party politicians are fueled primarily by baby-killing. If there aren’t enough donations to Planned Parenthood, their campaign funds drop. If there aren’t enough abortions or if the profit margin for abortions declines, Obama Party campaign coffers drain.

northdallasthirty on February 2, 2012 at 6:21 PM

I understand that but first things first. No research to date has shown it to be usable. It is all hope & hope when it comes to embryonic stem cell research.

chemman on February 2, 2012 at 6:12 PM

I should have been more clear. I do not support embryonic stem cell research. PERIOD. I was trying to say, even if it ever did come up with a cure, it would be a half cure almost as bad as most diseases it cured. Adult stem cells, as long as the cells of the sick person were usable, could avoid that, and it seems as if adult stem cells will be able to be used as effectively as embryonic.

astonerii on February 2, 2012 at 6:22 PM

hahahahahahahah! liberals donating to charities? hahahahahahah!

burserker on February 2, 2012 at 6:19 PM

I know right… There was a girl on SGK facebook who said that she couldn’t afford any health care so she went to PP for it. In the next sentence she said she wasn’t going to support SGK anymore. I so wanted to be the heartless conservative and ask her if she couldn’t afford healthcare how is she giving any money to SGK?

melle1228 on February 2, 2012 at 6:22 PM

The Daily Kos — a group blog — is calling for people to stop donating to the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation and Susan G. Komen for the Cure fund until Lieberman’s wife, Hadassah Lieberman, is fired.
The Daily Kos: “When Komen dumps Lieberman, then we will all resume donating to them.”
hahahahahahahah! liberals donating to charities? hahahahahahah!

burserker on February 2, 2012 at 6:19 PM

If liberals want to go all in against Breast Cancer groups… thinking the majority will side with them – let them run head first into that wall.

And does anyone really even read that Kos dope anymore? Wasnt he crying about ad revenue and volume getting killed due to the Post Bush era not giving a crap what he thinks?

Odie1941 on February 2, 2012 at 6:23 PM

The organization has the right to use the money it raises from its donors in the way it sees fit.

Period.

If you don’t like what Komen does with the funds, don’t give to the organization.

ladyingray on February 2, 2012 at 6:19 PM

So, if you donate because a family member had breast cancer, you shouldn’t be offended if that money goes to kill an unborn baby?

BedBug on February 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM

Anyone remember this doozy?

Scrappy on February 2, 2012 at 6:16 PM

I got to “surgical facility” and had to close the window. I got the gist.

Axe on February 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM

They don’t care about women’s health, they don’t care about family planning, they only exist to do abortions and to fund Obama Party politicians.

northdallasthirty on February 2, 2012 at 6:18 PM

This calls for a statistical study.

How many black women receive abortions at planned parenthood on an annual basis? How many white women receive abortions at planned parenthood on an annual basis? How many hispanic women recieve abortions at planned parenthood on an annual basis?

As a leftist org, I do believe you will find the majority of willing killings are coming from minorities.

Who founded Planned Parenthood?

/look it up. She was a liberal interested in eliminating minorities. Surprise!

Key West Reader on February 2, 2012 at 6:25 PM

Well, I hope our pro-life friends support Komen. And also, if Komen backs down, remember, Komen is neck deep in abortion.

joeindc44 on February 2, 2012 at 6:26 PM

This decision has caused a stir for one reason and one reason only: It has revealed that it is possible to advocate for “women’s health” without advocating for “abortion rights.”

You nailed the “line in the sand” Tina – and did a nice job at it.

Dems and liberals desperately need to own the “we care about humans and health” narrative for a shiny happy world to exist – anything against that is evil…

Until they opened up Pandoras Box with Breast cancer, which knows no geo/ideological/religious difference in who it effects.

Kudos.

Odie1941 on February 2, 2012 at 6:26 PM

chemman on February 2, 2012 at 6:12 PM

astonerii on February 2, 2012 at 6:22 PM

astorerii was agreeing with you, chemman, on that post. If that wasn’t obvious.

Axe on February 2, 2012 at 6:27 PM

Drama at a women’s organization?? Say it ain’t so! :)

Intrepid767 on February 2, 2012 at 6:27 PM

They are a women’s reproductive health service and that includes breast, uteral cancer. God the *ignorance* of some people.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Says the guy who screwed up his screen name and can’t keep his sock-puppets straight.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 6:28 PM

PP: You save some, you kill some.

faraway on February 2, 2012 at 6:28 PM

You’re nuts.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:12 PM

Over 2,000,000,000 sperm, swimming upstream…and YOU’RE the one who had to make it! Geez!

KOOLAID2 on February 2, 2012 at 6:28 PM

So, if you donate because a family member had breast cancer, you shouldn’t be offended if that money goes to kill an unborn baby?

BedBug on February 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM

You are one of the most offensive posters I’ve ever seen on Hot Air. You really, really are.

Key West Reader on February 2, 2012 at 6:28 PM

I would never use the phrase “evangelical Christian” to describe myself. So do try again ibfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Thanks for the clarification. Evangelical Christian hater fits the bill.

wraithby on February 2, 2012 at 6:29 PM

Where’s Cindy Munford?

Oh, she doesn’t post or contribute anymore? Gee, I wonder why.

/HA is becoming Politico

Key West Reader on February 2, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Key West Reader on February 2, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Her and her hubby are also traveling this week.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 6:32 PM

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2012/02/02/Planned-Parenthood-donations-swell/UPI-16641328220353/

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Then PP’s kill-streak can continue unabated. That should please you.

rihar on February 2, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Well, I hope our pro-life friends support Komen. And also, if Komen backs down, remember, Komen is neck deep in abortion.

joeindc44 on February 2, 2012 at 6:26 PM

You liberals suck.

How can you take the name of a woman and drag it through your trash bin?

/I’m out of here. This literally sucks.

Hot Air = Politico?

Bye

Key West Reader on February 2, 2012 at 6:34 PM

So, if you donate because a family member had breast cancer, you shouldn’t be offended if that money goes to kill an unborn baby?

BedBug on February 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM

You are one of the most offensive posters I’ve ever seen on Hot Air. You really, really are.

Key West Reader on February 2, 2012 at 6:28 PM

sarcasm

WryTrvllr on February 2, 2012 at 6:34 PM

While Williams herself has not said whether her resignation was a reaction to Komen’s decision, National Journal reports that her former senior communications adviser says she left because she just couldn’t stay at an organization that would bow to pressure from the anti-abortion right.

Don’cha love when folks put words in your mouth Thay you never said ?!?!?! aRGGH.

pambi on February 2, 2012 at 6:35 PM

So, if you donate because a family member had breast cancer, you shouldn’t be offended if that money goes to kill an unborn baby?

BedBug on February 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM

*eyeroll*

I have had a half a dozen family members who have had breast cancer, several of whom are no longer with us; one victim is a 48 year old relative (she’s a survivor).

My point was, if you don’t approve that the organization does NOT give money to PP, then you should be happy. If you disagree with this, then don’t give your money to the organization, but instead give your money directly to PP.

Are you really that dense? Or just a newbie?

I don’t donate to SGK because the majority of their donations go to admin costs and not research.

ladyingray on February 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM

So, if you donate because a family member had breast cancer, you shouldn’t be offended if that money goes to kill an unborn baby?

BedBug on February 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM

You are one of the most offensive posters I’ve ever seen on Hot Air. You really, really are.

Key West Reader on February 2, 2012 at 6:28 PM

WHY? Maybe you have a reading comprehension problem or maybe you are easily offended.

My question to THAT blanket statement was, YOU lose your loved one to cancer, you give to a charity that is supposed to GIVE money to help fight cancer, and your money goes to a business that slaughters babies in the womb?????? And, I asked why you can’t be offended by that!!!!!

HOW IN THE H E L L IS THAT OFFENSIVE??????????

BedBug on February 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM

I’m sure it was encounters like this that showed Komen it was better to ditch PP than to continue with that abortion albatross around their necks. Next time she runs, I’ll sponsor assuming Komen doesn’t change their minds about no longer contributing to the baby killers.

Christian Conservative on February 2, 2012 at 5:43 PM

I think you’re 100% right, CC. I have a very close friend who is a breast cancer survivor and runs a couple of fundraising events for the Susan G. Komen Foundation every year. I have always helped her and contributed, but told her last year that I would no longer participate because of their support of Planned Infanticide. There are many more like us, and SGK got the message loud and clear when their bottom line was affected.

I also refused to buy any merchandise with the pink ribbon during their last campaign. I noticed alot of that stuff lying around the stores unsold.

Let the Pro-Death movement pay for their own tickets to hell.

Naturally Curly on February 2, 2012 at 6:38 PM

The lesson here is to avoid any contact with a radioactive organization like PP. Had SGK never entered into a relationship with them, it would not have become a controversy. Now no matter what happens SGK is going to mightily p off one of the sides.

slickwillie2001 on February 2, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Then PP’s kill-streak can continue unabated. That should please you.

rihar on February 2, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Almost excited it seems.

I cannot imagine the sermon a Christian would listen to where the pastor talks about Planned Parenthood donations soaring and the parishioners offering Amens.

What kind of Christians are rabid abortion proponents? I mean, I know of folks on the fence about justifiable circumstances, but how does one put issues like that before their faith?

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 6:40 PM

slickwillie2001 on February 2, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Yep.

ladyingray on February 2, 2012 at 6:43 PM

Hasn’t research shown some kind of link between abortion and breast cancer? I recall something along those lines. The Komen foundation should just go with that — and watch the pro-abortion heads really explode. They could say it’s like the American Cancer Society partnering with cigarette manufacturers. Oh my. The hysteria would be fun.

Rational Thought on February 2, 2012 at 6:43 PM

So, if you donate because a family member had breast cancer, you shouldn’t be offended if that money goes to kill an unborn baby?

BedBug on February 2, 2012 at 6:24 PM

*eyeroll*

I have had a half a dozen family members who have had breast cancer, several of whom are no longer with us; one victim is a 48 year old relative (she’s a survivor).

My point was, if you don’t approve that the organization does NOT give money to PP, then you should be happy. If you disagree with this, then don’t give your money to the organization, but instead give your money directly to PP.

Are you really that dense? Or just a newbie?

I don’t donate to SGK because the majority of their donations go to admin costs and not research.

ladyingray on February 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM

*Tweens, angry teenagers, and immature adults eye roll*

I asked you a simple question to your blanket statement. You misread my question, shocker, because I don’t want money going to PP when I give money to breast cancer research/awareness. And, I’m sure a lot of people have lost family and friends to cancer, so you’re not so special.
My question was sincere. But, you just decide, instead of fighting the machine and making sure your money goes to life and not the business of death, you just give lip service and give a large bag of money directly to the researchers, right??????? Because, newsflash, a lot of charities use money for overhead. It needs to be regulated and now that SGK is no longer giving money kill babies, we can concentrate on that problem.

BedBug on February 2, 2012 at 6:46 PM

What kind of Christians are rabid abortion proponents? I mean, I know of folks on the fence about justifiable circumstances, but how does one put issues like that before their faith?

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 6:40 PM

Ones like libfreeordie who worship Obama as the Messiah.

For them, giving to Planned Parenthood and forcing others to do so is funding the re-election campaign of their Jesus. Hence their screaming fit when anyone dares stray from the path in which Obama Jesus and his worthy Obama Party disciples have their campaign coffers filled.

northdallasthirty on February 2, 2012 at 6:46 PM

BedBug on February 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM

She misunderstood you. In fact, a lot of older commenters are getting more impatient with the direction Hot Air has gone and are rather more emotional in their commenting. Not to say she’s being emotional now. But she’s one of the better and if she’d have stuck around or come back, she’d be the first to admit she misunderstood and say she was sorry. As it is, I still don’t blame her for not wanting to comment here any more regardless.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 6:51 PM

I get a kick out of watching pro-abortion people shriek that Komen has hurt women by pulling funding from Planned Parenthood in the same breath that they vow not to donate to Komen anymore, cuz, ya know, stopping donations to Komen won’t hurt women at all.

clearbluesky on February 2, 2012 at 6:51 PM

…www.upi.com/…/Planned-Parenthood-donations-swell/[etc.]
libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Well, good for them — that’s how it should work. Let the pro-death people directly support PP and not have unsuspecting Komen donors unintentionally supporting abortion.

KS Rex on February 2, 2012 at 6:54 PM

BedBug on February 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM

She misunderstood you. In fact, a lot of older commenters are getting more impatient with the direction Hot Air has gone and are rather more emotional in their commenting. Not to say she’s being emotional now. But she’s one of the better and if she’d have stuck around or come back, she’d be the first to admit she misunderstood and say she was sorry. As it is, I still don’t blame her for not wanting to comment here any more regardless.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 6:51 PM

You know I respect your opinion, hawk driver. As much as you guys fight each other, and me at the beginning, I don’t see your clubhouse being overtaken anytime soon. You guys fight hard.

BedBug on February 2, 2012 at 6:55 PM

And why is PP freaking out if this money is easily replaceable?

Odie1941 on February 2, 2012 at 6:08 PM

It’s simple — for the same reason why Phyllis Schlafly, Sarah Palin, Herman Cain, Allen West, Tammy Bruce, and Marco Rubio are targeted for destruction as soon as they stand up to be counted as right-of-center thinkers: The left’s continued existence depends on its well-honed image as the refuge for all people who are victimized by Rich White Men, who — they say — hate everyone who isn’t one of them. Once a member of a minority steps one foot off the plantation, they lose their identity in the lefties’ eyes, become for all intents and purposes Rich White Men, and thus are deemed fair targets for unspeakable abuse.

I could see things happening on Twitter yesterday once the word came down. They were furiously messaging back and forth how they were going to make Komen pay dearly for dissing Planned Parenthood to the tiny tune of about $700,000. I wasn’t, however, prepared for the utter idiocy of the response.

They are a cult group. I call it The Choice Cult.

L.N. Smithee on February 2, 2012 at 6:57 PM

Where’s Cindy Munford?
Oh, she doesn’t post or contribute anymore? Gee, I wonder why.
Key West Reader on February 2, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Aww… What did happen?

KS Rex on February 2, 2012 at 6:57 PM

I love the lack of logic from PP supporters over this. Planned Parenthood brings in over $1 billion dollars in revenue. Komen donated $650,000, a whopping .065% of that total. It will literally have zero impact on PP and/or women, but it’s enough to denounce an organization that has used over a billion dollars to help fight breast cancer. Sad. Just sad.

drewwerd on February 2, 2012 at 6:58 PM

This move is going to turn off a lot of blue state women who are just getting to the age where they have a lot of money and extra free time to devote to causes like breast cancer. I expect the DC Race for the Cure event this year will be much smaller.

urban elitist on February 2, 2012 at 6:58 PM

The uproar over this is asinine. All my liberal friends have blown up Facebook over it, asserting that Komen-an org dedicated to fighting breast cancer-is somehow not concerned about women’s health. It’s ridiculous. They don’t have to give Planned Parenthood a dime, and that money will go to other orgs focused on prevention and treatment of the disease. Who says they all have to be pro-choice?

Unfortunately, I bet they cave on it. The Left is mounting a campaign of intimidation to protect Murder Inc, and it’s going to be tough for Komen to withstand that.

changer1701 on February 2, 2012 at 6:59 PM

northdallasthirty on February 2, 2012 at 6:46 PM

And I just do not understand a serious person of any faith with that frame of mind. I certainly understand a concern troll or one acting as a Moby claiming to be a person of faith trying to get others to rationalize supporting it. But a real spiritual person would not gleefully cite a link showing “swelling” support for an organization like Planned Parenthood.

This one and liberal4life are two peas in a pod with how they use their faith to push liberalism. If they had the same IP, I wouldn’t be at all surprised.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 7:00 PM

This move is going to turn off a lot of blue state women who are just getting to the age where they have a lot of money and extra free time to devote to causes like breast cancer. I expect the DC Race for the Cure event this year will be much smaller.

urban elitist on February 2, 2012 at 6:58 PM

Good try …

darwin on February 2, 2012 at 7:04 PM

“even promotes procedures that some consider harmful to women”

Well, to females anyway.

Random on February 2, 2012 at 7:07 PM

My entire family is Christian, my entire family is pro-choice and we’re not the only ones. Thankfully our relationship to Christ is between us and as individuals and the Lord and isn’t really up for debate, discussion or investigation by others.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Lib Free if you truly believe, that…and I have no reason to believe that you DON’T believe in Christianity that way…aren’t you denying the people at the Komen foundation that same belief?

As an aside, Baptists, like Christians also don’t really hold truck to abortion mills. But I digress from a salient point. Both of these organization are Private ones, with the exception the PP receives Federal dollars which not everyone agrees with, yet SGK receives private donations & now have Senators telling them on how they can allocate funds?

Not to mention: What money did PP use BEFORE they got any money from SGK? If their day to day operations can be derailed that easily, wont that just mean they’ll get MORE money from the government to make up any shortcomings, aside from money donated to them from like minded individuals, like Mayor Mike Bloomberg?

BlaxPac on February 2, 2012 at 7:11 PM

They are a women’s reproductive health service and that includes breast, uteral cancer. God the *ignorance* of some people.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Yeah you’re right the ignorance is appalling…on your part. PP does no testing for either disease. It demonstrates how to exam breasts and gives out literature and it also gives out pamphlets on where tests for both may be found. In other words the services are provided by someone else. Also there have been studies liking contraceptives and breast cancer as well as uterine cancer. Abortions have been linked to uterine cancer and at least one study links them to breast cancer. Sort of seems like a cancer fighting organization would be self-defeating by supporting an organization like PP.I never understood why they gave to PP in the first place when there are plenty of groups that do fight cancer and could use the money.

Deanna on February 2, 2012 at 7:13 PM

“and isn’t really up for debate, discussion or investigation by others.”

Well it is if you post it on a blog.

Random on February 2, 2012 at 7:14 PM

Deanna on February 2, 2012 at 7:13 PM

There’s no evidence legal abortion is more dangerous than childbirth: it is in fact less dangerous, at least physically. I wish it were otherwise (I think it’s preconceived murder and I support the death penalty), but no. It actually is safer.

Random on February 2, 2012 at 7:16 PM

My entire family is Christian, my entire family is pro-choice and we’re not the only ones. Thankfully our relationship to Christ is between us and individuals and the Lord and isn’t really up for debate, discussion or investigation by others.

libfreeordie on February 2, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Many will on that day say to me Lord Lord, and I will say to them… depart from me, for I have never known you.

For who so ever would harm one of these little ones, I say to them it would be better for you to tie a millstone around your neck and cast yourself into the sea.

SWalker on February 2, 2012 at 7:16 PM

I get a kick out of watching pro-abortion people shriek that Komen has hurt women by pulling funding from Planned Parenthood in the same breath that they vow not to donate to Komen anymore, cuz, ya know, stopping donations to Komen won’t hurt women at all.

clearbluesky on February 2, 2012 at 6:51 PM

Indeed. You’d think Komen just decided to stop funding all screening or whatever, with how hysterical the reaction has been.

changer1701 on February 2, 2012 at 7:17 PM

For who so ever would harm one of these little ones, I say to them it would be better for you to tie a millstone around your neck and cast yourself into the sea.

SWalker on February 2, 2012 at 7:16 PM

Actually, I think her theological position is it’s better to have a pleasurable orgasm and be free get rid of any inconvenient and thoroughly predictable after-effects. Such as human beings.

Well the Bible is bloodthirsty, including against kids, so I could see that actually.

Random on February 2, 2012 at 7:19 PM

The lunatic left will make the Komen Foundation pay dearly for this decision. Let’s hope Komen continues to stand on principle, and – dare we hope – fight back?

joecollins on February 2, 2012 at 7:20 PM

There’s no evidence legal abortion is more dangerous than childbirth: it is in fact less dangerous, at least physically.

Certainly not for the child! And that statistic has been debunked.

melle1228 on February 2, 2012 at 7:20 PM

Random on February 2, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Can somebody give this poor, attention-starved kid a hug?

tom daschle concerned on February 2, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Exactly why I pay VERY close attention to who I’m donating to. I have refused to give them any money for years because of their ties.

TruLevinian on February 2, 2012 at 7:21 PM

So, they accept life for cancer patients but death for the unborn? Oh the liberal mindset.

TruLevinian on February 2, 2012 at 7:23 PM

There’s no evidence legal abortion is more dangerous than childbirth: it is in fact less dangerous, at least physically. I wish it were otherwise (I think it’s preconceived murder and I support the death penalty), but no. It actually is safer.

Random on February 2, 2012 at 7:16 PM

Oh geez Random not again. Can you read what I posted? I never said anything about childbirth or compared its risks with abortions. Yes both have risks involved but that isn’t the issue here. No one is going to respond to you if you keep interpreting people’s posts as you so choose….again. I know you try to get threads off on your own tangent but that is really annoying and childish. Stick to the topic.

Deanna on February 2, 2012 at 7:26 PM

I am going to make one parting statement.

I buried a child. She was only 6 months old. She died in a day care center back in the really early 90′s. When I found out I was pregnant, I went to PP for an ultrasound because I was uninsured. They thought I was there to abort. They were WRONG. That wasn’t before they told me how easy it would be. Just a vacuum and a hose. The ‘fetus’ would feel nothing. I would feel nothing. Just abort the child; it’s all for the better.

Well, that child is now 17 years old, is my pride and joy and delivers more joy each day he is alive.

Don’t foncuse this with the time I was 19 years old and went for an annual. They thought I was there for an abortion. They had no facility for a general exam.

No matter how you slice and dice an unborn baby, Planned Parenthood will show you how to do it.

………

That’s my last comment on Hot Air.

Best regards to all,
L

Key West Reader on February 2, 2012 at 7:27 PM

picture of a bunch of murdering whores in pink t shirts…….their mom should be so proud

tractah on February 2, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Oh and Random, I have work to do so don’t bother to reply. I hate to see you waste your time.

Deanna on February 2, 2012 at 7:27 PM

SGK is the official philanthropy of my sorority, and for years it has been an big issue that out of the hundreds of thousands of $ we raise for SGK, some of that goes to PP. I’m very happy with the decision to end the relationship w/PP, and so are many others I know. If people want to donate directly to PP – either to pay for abortions or anything else- they can do so.

LASue on February 2, 2012 at 7:31 PM

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