Romney up 20 in Nevada over Gingrich

posted at 8:40 am on February 2, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Coming into a tough February with only one debate scheduled, the last thing that Mitt Romney’s competitors needed was a Romney polling surge, but two news organizations bring bad news to the field and good news to Romney.  Two days before Nevada’s caucuses, a poll conducted by KLAS-TV and UNLV in Las Vegas shows Romney with a 20-point lead over Newt Gingrich, while Ron Paul surprisingly fades into a faraway fourth:

An 8NewsNow/Las Vegas Review-Journal telephone poll, conducted Friday through Tuesday by UNLV’s Cannon Survey Center, found Romney favored by 44.5 percent of 608 registered Republicans polled, compared to only 24.2 percent for former House Speaker Gingrich. Fellow Republican candidates Rick Santorum (10.9 percent) and Ron Paul (9.1 percent) also remained well behind.

Among 426 of those respondents who said they planned to attend the caucuses, the outcome wasn’t much different. Romney was favored by 45.4 percent of those individuals, versus 25.1 percent for Gingrich, 10.8 percent for Santorum and 9.2 percent for Paul.

In December, Romney only led by four points, 33/29, and Paul was in third, albeit distantly at 12.7%.  Gingrich lost a few points, but the difference is mainly Romney momentum.  A quick look at the RCP chart of polls shows that the KLAS/LVRJ poll in December was the last survey in the state before now, so it’s impossible to tell what kind of impact Romney’s big win in Florida had, but it’s certainly safe to say it hasn’t turned Nevada voters off.  With two days left to go before the binding caucus — delegates actually do get assigned to candidates on Saturday — it looks like Romney might not have much trouble extending both his lead and his momentum.

That is also true on a national level.  Gallup reports from its daily tracking that Romney has surged back into the lead:

Mitt Romney has moved ahead of Newt Gingrich in national Republican registered voters’ preferences for the 2012 GOP nomination, 31% to 26%, according to Gallup Daily tracking from Jan. 27-31. This includes one night of interviewing that may partly reflect Republicans’ reactions to Romney’s victory in the Jan. 31 Florida Republican primary.

Rick Santorum came in third in Florida, and is also a clear third in Gallup Daily tracking, now favored by 16% of Republican voters nationally, compared with Ron Paul’s 11%. Support for Santorum has been holding steady near 16% in recent days, while support for Paul has dwindled slightly.

With none of the Republican candidates yet establishing a dominant or lasting position as GOP front-runner in this race, Republicans’ preferences appear to be swayable by the candidates’ performances in the various debates and primary elections.

Gallup also notes that Gingrich has the “ability to rebound,” based on his previous resurrections, but those were either based on debate performances or (in the case of South Carolina) a primary win — after a big debate performance.  There won’t be another debate until February 22nd, by which time five states will have concluded their caucuses or primaries. There don’t seem to be any obvious opportunities for that kind of game-changer for Gingrich until the Arizona debate.

If Gingrich (or Rick Santorum, for that matter) doesn’t come up with a big win in one of those five states before that date, Romney’s going to keep generating momentum rolling towards Super Tuesday, where ten states compete simultaneously just one week after Arizona and Michigan have their contests.  Romney’s organization and resources will give him a huge advantage, and will likely bury his competitors unless one of them breaks out in the next two weeks.

Update: Jon Ralston, one of the go-to guys in Nevada political analysis, says that PPP’s first night of polling in Nevada corroborates the KLAS poll:

Mitt Romney is up by 15-20 points after one night of polling in Nevada, with Newt Gingrich poised to finish second, Public Policy Polling reports. …

The first night impressions via pollster Tom Jensen:

“Romney leads Newt by about 15-20 points. The main suspense may be whether he gets over 50%, he will certainly have a chance. Paul is 3rd and Santorum 4th, both around 15%. The chances of Paul besting Gingrich for 3rd are pretty minuscule.

“Gingrich is barely above water on his favorability numbers. Santorum is actually the most universally well liked candidate but it’s not translating into intent to vote for him.


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Mitt Romney can nail gelatin to a tree.

csdeven on February 2, 2012 at 9:45 AM

What happened to Paulies big Nevada organizational machine?

DuctTapeMyBrain on February 2, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Mitt Romney can nail gelatin to a tree.

csdeven on February 2, 2012 at 9:45 AM

And that is just about the entirety of his ability.

Thank you for positing it in such a succinct and glib way!

tom daschle concerned on February 2, 2012 at 9:50 AM

That’s funny, Fox was saying the other day that Romney held a “slight” advantage in Nevada.

claudius on February 2, 2012 at 9:52 AM

tom daschle concerned on February 2, 2012 at 9:42 AM

+ 105..:)

PS..You get bonus points for the Star Wars reference..:)

Dire Straits on February 2, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Mitt Romney can nail gelatin to a tree.

csdeven on February 2, 2012 at 9:45 AM

All the Mittbots have is hate.
Enjoy the wins in Nevada now, cuz this is the last time Mittens will win in Nevada (of Florida).

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Gingrich, as they used to say in the Army, has a kind face-the “kind” you’d like to step on.The abrasive, two-faced and morally challenged Gingrich, as nominee, would not only assure an Obama landslide reelection but also huge Democratic majorities in both House and= Senate.

That being said let us pray that that Romney is as conservative as he says he is on the campaign trail and not as liberal as he actually was as Governor of Massachusetts.

MaiDee on February 2, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Mitt Romney can nail gelatin to a tree.

Lets face it. In the “take no prisoners” of Leveraged equity Romney was a shark. Is it a surprise that he is this way in politics.

gerry-mittbot

gerrym51 on February 2, 2012 at 9:56 AM

Interesting that the next few states are

Nevada
Arizona
Idaho
Washington

Hmmmm what do all these states have in common? High Mormon populations. Idaho is about 25%, Nevada is about 20%.

But I’m sure this is all just a coincidence and the RNC in now way scheduled these states to give Mittens any type of advantage.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Two words – buyers remorse.

Mark my words.

molonlabe28 on February 2, 2012 at 9:58 AM

His handlers need to let Mitt keep speaking without a script. After all, he did so well yesterday. LOL.

kingsjester on February 2, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Speaking of polls from Nevada…

Las Vegas Review-Journal 12/12 – 12/20 600 RV 46 40 Obama +6

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Go Romney. That pompous fat Grinch will really be steaming soon. I hope Mitt keeps up the Newt pounding!

ObamatheMessiah on February 2, 2012 at 9:59 AM

News Flash!!!!

Newt Gingrich was found passed out at the all you can eat buffet at Circus Circus! Witnesses say he OD’ed on Moon Pies.

csdeven on February 2, 2012 at 10:02 AM

And that is just about the entirety of his ability.

Thank you for positing it in such a succinct and glib way!

tom daschle concerned on February 2, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Gosh, I didn’t know it was so easy to make hundreds of millions of dollars and run companies, and a state and the Olympics with no ability. Wow, we should all have hundreds of millions of dollars, like the incompetent Mr. Romney. We all have more ability than he does, right?

talkingpoints on February 2, 2012 at 10:05 AM

News Flash!!!!

Newt Gingrich was found passed out at the all you can eat buffet at Circus Circus! Witnesses say he OD’ed on Moon Pies.

csdeven on February 2, 2012 at 10:02 AM

You’re out Chudi-ing Chudi and out Jailbreaking Jailbreak.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM

As for the federal minimum wage, I don’t believe in it and would like to see legislation repealing it, but it is highly unlikely it will be repealed anytime soon (if states want to set a higher minimum wage they can do so at their peril). As such, it may makes more sense to tie increases (or decreases!) to the inflation rate than to the arbitrary and highly politicized increases passed by Congress. If you look at historical charts, it’s immediately evident that congress raises rates far higher than the rate of inflation.

Look at rates after Dems took over Congress in 2006:

Minimum wage: 2007 $5.85; 2008 $6.55; 2009 $7.25
Inflation rate: 2007 2.85%; 2008 3.85%; 2009 -.34%.

I’ll let you all do the exact calculations, but clearly a .70 cents per hour increase of $5.85 to $6.55 is waaaay more than the 1% increase in the inflation rate.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM

This isn’t news it was predicted that Romney would do well in Nevada he did well in 2008 let’s see if primary voter turnout is as high now as it was in 2008. I suspect less people end up going to vote in the primary polls in Nevada just like dip in primary voter turn out in Florida.

The number of registered Republicans has risen by more than 200,000 in those four years, from about 3.8 million to 4.1 million. But in 2008, 51 percent of them voted in the primary and this year participation fell to 41 percent.

Nearly 280,000 fewer Republicans cast ballots in this year’s contest than in the 2008 GOP primary. The number dropped from 1.95 million to 1.67 million

If republican primary voters are apathetic during the primary season it helps Obama in the general.

Dr Evil on February 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM

His handlers need to let Mitt keep speaking without a script. After all, he did so well yesterday. LOL.

kingsjester on February 2, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Romney’s statement about the poor may have been artless, but 95% of the country agrees with what he said.

bobs1196 on February 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM

So he is losing by 6 to Obama in Nevada, he’s losing by 4-6% nationally, his favorability is at 31%/49%.

And yet he’s Mr. Electable.

LOL.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Romney’s statement about the poor may have been artless, but 95% of the country agrees with what he said.

bobs1196 on February 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM

You and Priscilla really, really need to get out of the Mittens bubble. ASAP. You’re in creepy cult territory.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Interesting that the next few states are

Nevada
Arizona
Idaho
Washington

Hmmmm what do all these states have in common? High Mormon populations. Idaho is about 25%, Nevada is about 20%.

But I’m sure this is all just a coincidence and the RNC in now way scheduled these states to give Mittens any type of advantage.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM

I do enjoy your conspiracies. Keep ‘em coming… snicker

rhombus on February 2, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Buy Danish on February 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM

You guys will rationalize anything Mittens says/does. Health care ndandates are bad, wait what, Romney approves, I guess they’re not so bad after all. Minimum wage laws are bad. Wait what? Romney approves, I guess they’re not so bad after all. Increasing taxes to balance the budgest is an awful idea. Wait what, Romney did it, I guess we do need higher taxes after all.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:12 AM

I do enjoy your conspiracies. Keep ‘em coming… snicker

rhombus on February 2, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Call it a conspiracy if you want. Fact is 7/8 states with the highest Mormon population are early states. Just a coincidence I’m sure.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:13 AM

bobs1196 on February 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Uhhh…no. And, why would a Conservative want to encourage people to keep working for a minimum wage in the Land of Opportunity?

kingsjester on February 2, 2012 at 10:14 AM

So he is losing by 6 to Obama in Nevada, he’s losing by 4-6% nationally, his favorability is at 31%/49%.

And yet he’s Mr. Electable.

LOL.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:08 AM

RCP Average Romney vs Obama = Obama +1.9

How exactly does this translate to 4-6 points nationally?

Or, were you just sort of making those numbers up as you went along?

JohnGalt23 on February 2, 2012 at 10:15 AM

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:12 AM

We can actually see them lurching leftward before our very eyes.

Aitch748 on February 2, 2012 at 10:15 AM

Call it a conspiracy if you want. Fact is 7/8 states with the highest Mormon population are early states. Just a coincidence I’m sure.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Was the order changed from 2008?

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 10:16 AM

steebo77 on February 2, 2012 at 9:30 AM

he does have his platform figgured out …
Automatic minimum wage hikes …
raise fees (not taxes ya understand – fees )
Keep Obamacare ….
see … he has it all ready …

conservative tarheel on February 2, 2012 at 10:19 AM

Look at rates after Dems took over Congress in 2006:

Minimum wage: 2007 $5.85; 2008 $6.55; 2009 $7.25
Inflation rate: 2007 2.85%; 2008 3.85%; 2009 -.34%.

I’ll let you all do the exact calculations, but clearly a .70 cents per hour increase of $5.85 to $6.55 is waaaay more than the 1% increase in the inflation rate.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM

Prior to 2007, the rate was last raised in 1997 to $5.15. From 1997 to today, the rate has grown an average of 2.5% per year compounded. Inflation over the same 15 years has been higher than 2.5%, around 3% on average compounded. Which means if Mittens had his way the minimum wage today would be $8.05 instead of $7.25.

But why let pesky facts get in the way of a good Mittens is a Conservative story?

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Romney will embarrass Newt in Nevada.

Romney will continue to roll on to the nomination and the presidency and fix our country while you numbnuts talk on and on and on with Levin about RomneyCare…which nobody else in the country talks about…they figured it out…but you guys cant.

Jailbreak on February 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM

You guys will rationalize anything Mittens says/does. Health care ndandates are bad, wait what, Romney approves, I guess they’re not so bad after all. Minimum wage laws are bad. Wait what? Romney approves, I guess they’re not so bad after all. Increasing taxes to balance the budgest is an awful idea. Wait what, Romney did it, I guess we do need higher taxes after all.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:12 AM

First: Do you think the minimum wage will be repealed? A simple “yes” or “no” will suffice. Second: DO THE MATH. Which do you prefer? A 10% increase or a 1% increase? Third: When did Romney advocate raising taxes to balance the budget? Source please!

As for healthcare mandates: for the gazillionth time, only Newt Gingich has supported a Federal mandate. Therefore, I hope your candidate is either Ron Paul or Rick Santorum…

Buy Danish on February 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Romney will embarrass Newt in Nevada.

Jailbreak on February 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Romney embarrasses conservatives everywhere.

besser tot als rot on February 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM

RCP Average Romney vs Obama = Obama +1.9

How exactly does this translate to 4-6 points nationally?

Or, were you just sort of making those numbers up as you went along?

JohnGalt23 on February 2, 2012 at 10:15 AM

First off RCP average is 2.2 not 1.9. Second that includes polls that are almost a month old.

I trust two polls: Ras and PPP. One’s hard left, one’s hard right. They average out nicely to get the real number. PPP has Obama +5 in their latest. PPP has him +4.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Call it a conspiracy if you want. Fact is 7/8 states with the highest Mormon population are early states. Just a coincidence I’m sure.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:13 AM

Was the order changed from 2008?

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 10:16 AM

It was in fact.

In 2008, the Nevada caucuses were held the same day as the SC primary.

So, if anything, it would appear that at least one “Mormon” state suffered at the expense of one “Evangelical” state.

But pointing that “fact” out would be fundamentally dishonest, and frankly, should disqualify anyone from debate, as they clearly oppose grandiose ideas, and open marriages, and therefore are clamoring for the downfall of Western civilization.

JohnGalt23 on February 2, 2012 at 10:26 AM

e? Third: When did Romney advocate raising taxes to balance the budget? Source please!

As for healthcare mandates: for the gazillionth time, only Newt Gingich has supported a Federal mandate. Therefore, I hope your candidate is either Ron Paul or Rick Santorum…

Buy Danish on February 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM

He didn’t advocate raising taxes. As governor of MA he did raise taxes. He raised $150M on banks in the name of “fairness”. He also raised $500M in “fees”. Which is a nice way of being able to campaign and say I didn’t raise taxes on people. Call it what you want, $500M was taken out of the private economy and put into the govt’s hands. If Obama came out tomorrow and said he wants to raise $250B by raising fees, you’d be OK with it right?

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM

News Flash!!!!

Newt Gingrich was found passed out at the all you can eat buffet at Circus Circus! Witnesses say he OD’ed on Moon Pies.

csdeven on February 2, 2012 at 10:02 AM

Its a waste you don’t audition for standup comedian

evergreenland on February 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM

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Oh, please. You ask the average guy on the street what’s wrong with this country and he’ll say “There’s welfare for the poor, the rich are the rich, and I’m getting screwed.” MSM and conservative commentators have their own reasons for being outraged by what Romney said, but it’s what most people believe at a gut level.

bobs1196 on February 2, 2012 at 10:27 AM

only Newt Gingich has supported a Federal mandate. Therefore, I hope your candidate is either Ron Paul or Rick Santorum…

Buy Danish on February 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM

The mandate in any form is left wing statism. Federal or state level doesn’t matter. So, both “supporting” mandates is equally bad from a left/right basis. Now. Who actually signed a law into being that has the mandate in it? Who? Can you figure that one out? I know it’s hard for someone who has an IQ below room temperature, but please try. Ok. Now that you’ve figured that out, try to remember the old maxim: actions speak louder than words. Especially when it comes to politicians – they all say stupid stuff that they think that you want to hear at that particular moment. Conversely, their records cannot lie.

And I support anyone but Obamaney.

besser tot als rot on February 2, 2012 at 10:28 AM

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM

First off RCP average is 2.2 not 1.9. Second that includes polls that are almost a month old.

Click the link, guy.

I trust two polls: Ras and PPP. One’s hard left, one’s hard right. They average out nicely to get the real number. PPP has Obama +5 in their latest. PPP has him +4.

Once again, click the link.

And ignoring polls you don’t like… that’s science worthy of a historian.

JohnGalt23 on February 2, 2012 at 10:30 AM

But pointing that “fact” out would be fundamentally dishonest, and frankly, should disqualify anyone from debate, as they clearly oppose grandiose ideas, and open marriages, and therefore are clamoring for the downfall of Western civilization.

JohnGalt23 on February 2, 2012 at 10:26 AM

Well, I know Utah is dead last so there’s that.

Hey, o/t but what happened to those hard hitting anti-Mitt ads from the Paul camp that I was told would materialize before NH? You know, along the lines of the “serial hypocrisy” one he hit Newt with? Paul really wants to win the presidency and isn’t just acting as a foil for Mitt/jockeying for a seat at the table right?

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Was the order changed from 2008?

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 10:16 AM

Idaho (25% Mormon)

2008: Nay 27 primary
2012: Feb 6 primary

Nothing to see here folks, move along….

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:30 AM

Once again, click the link.

JohnGalt23 on February 2, 2012 at 10:30 AM

What link are you looking at GUY?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:33 AM

Hmmmm what do all these states have in common? High Mormon populations. Idaho is about 25%, Nevada is about 20%.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM

You forgot, I also hate Mormons.

angryed on January 20, 2012 at 4:08 PM

We get it. You are obsessed with hating Mormons.

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 10:34 AM

First: Do you think the minimum wage will be repealed? A simple “yes” or “no” will suffice.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM

No. Does that make it conservative? Does that make indexing it to inflation conservative? No, and No. Is Romney’s plan to index it to inflation stupid? Yes, but at least it is consistent with his leftist record.

besser tot als rot on February 2, 2012 at 10:34 AM

On RCP there are 11 polls Obama vs Romney that have been taken this year. Of 11, Mittens leads in 2. And those two were from 3 weeks ago.

But yeah, he’s leading Obama. I guess if a health care mandate makes one conservative, leading in 2/11 polls make one electable too. In Mittworld, anything’s possible if you wish it so.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:36 AM

We get it. You are obsessed with hating Mormons.

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 10:34 AM

OK then you’re obsessed with hating blacks because you don’t like Obama.

See how easy this game is.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:37 AM

And ignoring polls you don’t like… that’s science worthy of a historian.

JohnGalt23 on February 2, 2012 at 10:30 AM

What do you call ignoring the record of a politician that you shill for?

besser tot als rot on February 2, 2012 at 10:37 AM

What do you call ignoring the record of a politician that you shill for?

besser tot als rot on February 2, 2012 at 10:37 AM

I call it Coultering.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:39 AM

Hmmmm what do all these states have in common? High Mormon populations. Idaho is about 25%, Nevada is about 20%.

But I’m sure this is all just a coincidence and the RNC in now way scheduled these states to give Mittens any type of advantage.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Funny how they use the mormon factor when it servers their purpose but any time we mention it we are called biggots.

evergreenland on February 2, 2012 at 10:40 AM

We get it. You are obsessed with hating Mormons.

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 10:34 AM

OK then you’re obsessed with hating blacks because you don’t like Obama.

See how easy this game is.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Has he said that he doesn’t like Obama? I’m not sure that you can make that assumption with Romney supporters. They have identical records, so it makes sense that they’d like both. If they don’t, they’re being intellectually dishonest. (Try not to laugh.)

besser tot als rot on February 2, 2012 at 10:40 AM

newt should file a suit against KLAS_TV & UNLV

runner on February 2, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Wondering what new stupid thing Gingrich will say is what keeps politics interesting to me right now. I’ll be sad when he drops out of the primary.

thuja on February 2, 2012 at 10:43 AM

OK then you’re obsessed with hating blacks because you don’t like Obama.

See how easy this game is.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:37 AM

Has he said that he doesn’t like Obama? I’m not sure that you can make that assumption with Romney supporters. They have identical records, so it makes sense that they’d like both. If they don’t, they’re being intellectually dishonest. (Try not to laugh.)

besser tot als rot on February 2, 2012 at 10:40 AM

Good point.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:44 AM

Wondering what new stupid thing Gingrich will say is what keeps politics interesting to me right now. I’ll be sad when he drops out of the primary.

thuja on February 2, 2012 at 10:43 AM

Yea what a moron saying things like I LIKE TO FIRE PEOPLE and I DON’T CARE ABOUT THE POOR.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM

I am quoting you directly.

You forgot, I also hate Mormons.

angryed on January 20, 2012 at 4:08 PM

You said it.

You also have a problem with a conservative woman.

Harlot is synonymous with whore/prostitute.

Nikki sold herself to Mitt in exchange for campaign debt payoff.

Hence she is a whore.

angryed on January 11, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Sarah Palin sold herself to McCain when she endorsed him in 2010.

Using your standard, what does that make her?

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM

Using your standard, what does that make her?

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM

No idea. But I know it makes you an imbecile if you can’t figure out the sarcasm of my Mormon comment. But I knew that long ago.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:47 AM

I have no problem with conservative women. I have problems with political whores like Nikki Haley who sell themselves to the highest bidder. In this case the bid was $36,000 from Romney who paid off her debts in exchange for an endorsement.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Newt demands that the Nevada delegates be awarded by the draw of one card each from a new deck by the two leading candidates in the race.

High cards wins.

Or best of three cards if he loses the first draw.

profitsbeard on February 2, 2012 at 10:52 AM

Romney will embarrass Newt in Nevada.

Romney will continue to roll on to the nomination and the presidency and fix our country while you numbnuts talk on and on and on with Levin about RomneyCare…which nobody else in the country talks about…they figured it out…but you guys cant.

Jailbreak on February 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM

FIFY.

He isn’t going to fix shyte.

fossten on February 2, 2012 at 11:08 AM

As for healthcare mandates: for the gazillionth time, only Newt Gingich has supported a Federal mandate. Therefore, I hope your candidate is either Ron Paul or Rick Santorum…

Buy Danish on February 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM

Only Romney has ACTUALLY ENACTED GOVERNMENT HEALTHCAE.

fossten on February 2, 2012 at 11:10 AM

I have no problem with conservative women. I have problems with political whores like Nikki Haley who sell themselves to the highest bidder. In this case the bid was $36,000 from Romney who paid off her debts in exchange for an endorsement.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:49 AM

So, what does that make Sarah Palin for her endorsement of McCain?

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 11:12 AM

So, what does that make Sarah Palin for her endorsement of McCain?

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 11:12 AM

Couple things:

1) You are incorrectly assuming that any anti-Mitt person must be a Sarah Palin fan. angryed isn’t one.

2) It’s an apples and oranges comparison to begin with. No money changed hands between McCain and Palin. $36,000 changed hands between Mitt and Haley. Truth be told, I doubt Palin wanted to endorse McCain after he allowed his hyenas Schmidt and Wallace to savage her in the press after their loss. When McCain asked her to help him out in his run against JD Hayworth, the choice he laid before her was simple: be called a traiter or a rino. One last knife twist he threw her way.

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM

Couple things:

1) You are incorrectly assuming that any anti-Mitt person must be a Sarah Palin fan. angryed isn’t one.

On the contrary, it is the anti-Mitt folks that ASSUME that all Romney supporters hate Sarah.

The problem is that angryeyed won’t tell us who he supports, (other than admitting that he will vote for Obama if Romney is the nominee.

I just an interested he exposing his double standard with regard to Nikki vs. Palin.

2) It’s an apples and oranges comparison to begin with. No money changed hands between McCain and Palin. $36,000 changed hands between Mitt and Haley. Truth be told, I doubt Palin wanted to endorse McCain after he allowed his hyenas Schmidt and Wallace to savage her in the press after their loss.

So, why did she. If she did it for free, then what does that make her?

When McCain asked her to help him out in his run against JD Hayworth, the choice he laid before her was simple: be called a traiter or a rino. One last knife twist he threw her way.

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 11:19 AM

She could have just stayed out of it all together, but no, she went ahead and endorsed him, for free.

So, back to angryeyed,

If Nikki is a Whore, what does that make Sarah Palin?

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM

You are a real POS you know that Ed?

2008

Iowa
WY
NH
Michigan
Nevada
SC
Louisiana
HI
Florida
Maine

WY, NH, Michigan, Nevada, and HI are all states that should have favored Romney.

Now go look at this years schedule.

csdeven on February 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Stop whining like little girl Ed.

csdeven on February 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM

She could have just stayed out of it all together, but no, she went ahead and endorsed him, for free.

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM

And be called a flaky traitor with poor judgment? Yeah, that sounds superior rino and/or political whore. /

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 11:44 AM

s/b superior to

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 11:45 AM

First off RCP average is 2.2 not 1.9. Second that includes polls that are almost a month old.

I trust two polls: Ras and PPP. One’s hard left, one’s hard right. They average out nicely to get the real number. PPP has Obama +5 in their latest. PPP has him +4.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:23 AM

oh, give me a break with these polls… O wasn’t leading in any polls either this time in 2007 and before, in a head to head with the Rep nominee…so, do yourself a favor and shut up…and anyways, your new Mormon obsession/conspiracy theory is more like you than the polls thingy…keep beating on that one…you will soon starting to sound like the paulbots (on their coockoo issues)…

jimver on February 2, 2012 at 11:47 AM

And be called a flaky traitor with poor judgment? Yeah, that sounds superior rino and/or political whore. /

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 11:44 AM

I agree with you that it was poor judgement on her part, but she keeps doubling down on it, and she sounds so desperate every time she comes on Fox, don’t get it why…she can at least have fun if she got herself into this (quasi)endorsement game…

jimver on February 2, 2012 at 11:49 AM

oh, give me a break with these polls… O wasn’t leading in any polls either this time in 2007 and before, in a head to head with the Rep nominee…so, do yourself a favor and shut up…and anyways, your new Mormon obsession/conspiracy theory is more like you than the polls thingy…keep beating on that one…you will soon starting to sound like the paulbots (on their coockoo issues)…

jimver on February 2, 2012 at 11:47 AM

soon?

Zybalto on February 2, 2012 at 11:52 AM

I agree with you that it was poor judgement on her part, but she keeps doubling down on it

jimver on February 2, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Doubling down on what? We are referring to her endorsement of McCain in the his 2010 AZ senate run.

If you are referring to her suggestions to voters in primary states to continue voting for Mitt’s closest rival to continue the vetting process, I think Mitt’s two gaffes yesterday prove that she’s right and that Mitt needs more sharpening before he is ready to face Obama in the general.

Palin has not spoken ill of Mitt that I am aware of. And I have no doubt that she knows he will be the nominee. Frankly I’m a little surprised that she is taking so much heat for not falling in line and not telling everyone to just lay back and enjoy this the way most other conservative pundits are.

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 11:54 AM

And be called a flaky traitor with poor judgment?

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Well, after basically endorsing Newtron, it looks like that is true.

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Well, after basically endorsing Newtron, it looks like that is true.

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I guess it’s no longer possible for reasonable people to disagree. If someone supports Newt over Mitt they must be a braindead loser bent on losing to Obama and destroying the country.

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Idaho (25% Mormon)

2008: Nay 27 primary
2012: Feb 6 primary

Nothing to see here folks, move along….

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:30 AM

You’re dates are off. Idaho votes on Super Tuesday, in March. For that matter Washington state isn’t until March either.

The states and dates for February are as follows.

February 4, 2012 Nevada (caucus)
February 4–11, 2012 Maine (caucus)

February 7, 2012 Colorado (caucus) Minnesota (caucus) Missouri (primary

February 28, 2012 Arizona (primary) Michigan (primary)

Unless the schedules been changed, your conspiracy theory is completely and totally off-base.

WolvenOne on February 2, 2012 at 12:13 PM

I guess it’s no longer possible for reasonable people to disagree.

“reasonable people”?

I didn’t know you wanted to exclude angryed.

If someone supports Newt over Mitt they must be a braindead loser bent on losing to Obama and destroying the country.

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Yeah, basically.

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 12:22 PM

You’re out Chudi-ing Chudi and out Jailbreaking Jailbreak.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM

These people are DNC trolls tasked with generating hate of Mittster. Just ignore them. They are not pro-Mitt.

kunegetikos on February 2, 2012 at 12:24 PM

Prior to 2007, the rate was last raised in 1997 to $5.15. From 1997 to today, the rate has grown an average of 2.5% per year compounded. Inflation over the same 15 years has been higher than 2.5%, around 3% on average compounded. Which means if Mittens had his way the minimum wage today would be $8.05 instead of $7.25.
But why let pesky facts get in the way of a good Mittens is a Conservative story?
angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:20 AM

Did you use the cumulative inflation rate calculator?

In 1997 the minimum wage was $5.15 an hour; in 2011 it was $7.25. That’s a 41% increase (40.7% to be more precise).

In January 1997 the inflation rate was 2.34%; In January 2011 it was 1.63%. The cumulative rate was 38.42% (using the handy dandy calculator/starting and ending in January).

Using the cumulative inflation rate, starting at $5.15 an hour the rate would be $7.12 (.13 an hour less). Both numbers are fairly close. In the absence of a repeal, tying it to inflation is a probably a more sensible way to calculate increases than having Democrats in Congress perform their magic.

Buy Danish on February 2, 2012 at 12:34 PM

If someone supports Newt over Mitt they must be a braindead loser bent on losing to Obama and destroying the country.

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Yeah, basically.

Gunlock Bill on February 2, 2012 at 12:22 PM

Interesting approach. I must admit, when I was serving a two year mission for the LDS church in Taiwan, I never employed the strategy of walking into an investigator’s home and telling them what absoulte imbeciles they were for practicing Buddhism or Confucianism. If only I had know how persuasive a tactic it was. /

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 12:46 PM

Who actually signed a law into being that has the mandate in it? Who? Can you figure that one out?
besser tot als rot on February 2, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Only Romney has ACTUALLY ENACTED GOVERNMENT HEALTHCAE.
fossten on February 2, 2012 at 11:10 AM

This is an incredibly silly argument. Gingrich did not have the opportunity to sign anything into law after he left the House of Representatives in 1999. In 2003 he founded the Center for Health Transformation and, among other things, lobbied advocated for Medicare Part B. In 2009 he was singing the praises of a Federal Mandate. If we’re going to play hypothetical games, what do you think he would have done if he’d been in the W.H. instead of Barry Obama?

Buy Danish on February 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM

That picture scares babies.

Schadenfreude on February 2, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Kataklysmic on February 2, 2012 at 12:46 PM

What a rational and sane person you are.

Schadenfreude on February 2, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Interesting that the next few states are

Nevada
Arizona
Idaho
Washington

Hmmmm what do all these states have in common? High Mormon populations. Idaho is about 25%, Nevada is about 20%.

But I’m sure this is all just a coincidence and the RNC in now way scheduled these states to give Mittens any type of advantage.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Don’t forget the mormon strongholds of Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, Alaska, Georgia, Massachusetts, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Vermont, North Dakota, and Virginia also happening on the same dates as the four you mentioned. These Mormon establishment types are brainwashing the electorate with their…voting. OH NO! At least now we know we can blame the establishment and not Republican voters when evil Romney gets the nomination.

Kriggly on February 2, 2012 at 1:09 PM

Speaking of polls from Nevada…

Las Vegas Review-Journal 12/12 – 12/20 600 RV 46 40 Obama +6

angryed

You missed one. Surely it was just an oversight though. You wouldn’t intentionally try to mislead folks or anything.

Las Vegas Review-Journal 12/12 – 12/20 600 RV 47 Obama 35 Gingrich Obama +12

xblade on February 2, 2012 at 1:11 PM

This is an incredibly silly argument. Gingrich did not have the opportunity to sign anything into law after he left the House of Representatives in 1999. In 2003 he founded the Center for Health Transformation and, among other things, lobbied advocated for Medicare Part B. In 2009 he was singing the praises of a Federal Mandate. If we’re going to play hypothetical games, what do you think he would have done if he’d been in the W.H. instead of Barry Obama?

Buy Danish on February 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM

Yeah, and remember that whole HillaryCare thingy in 1993? Newt was totally for that, too!

steebo77 on February 2, 2012 at 1:12 PM

The 1994 mid-term election became, in the opinion of one media observer, a “referendum on big government — Hillary Clinton had launched a massive health-care reform plan that wound up strangled by its own red tape.” In that 1994 election, the Republican revolution, led by Newt Gingrich, gave the GOP control of both the House of Representatives and the Senate for the first time since the 83rd Congress of 1953–1954, ending prospects for a Clinton-sponsored health care overhaul. Comprehensive reform in the United States was not seriously considered or enacted by Congress until Barack Obama’s election victory in 2008.

steebo77 on February 2, 2012 at 1:16 PM

steebo77 on February 2, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Gee, thanks for the history lesson. I had no idea he had anything to do with blocking Hillary Care!/

Buy Danish on February 2, 2012 at 1:21 PM

New Arizona poll out from Rasmussen.

Romney +24 over Gingrich.

Romney 48%
Gingrich 24%
Santorum 13%
Paul 6%

That leaves Michigan as far as the really BIG states in February are concerned, and Romney’s a native son there. Its possible that Santorum or Gingrich could make a run at one of the less important states, Main, Colorado, Minnesota, or Missouri. Of all of these however the most vulnerable is Missouri, Romney probably has better than even odds in the rest of them.

WolvenOne on February 2, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Interesting that the next few states are

Nevada
Arizona
Idaho
Washington

Hmmmm what do all these states have in common? High Mormon populations. Idaho is about 25%, Nevada is about 20%.

But I’m sure this is all just a coincidence and the RNC in now way scheduled these states to give Mittens any type of advantage.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Hey angryed, stop acting like a whiny liberal. You should be above this kind of deception.

Here is the real primary schedule until Super Tuesday, bolded states have no possible advantage for Romney, but also think critically. If Romney has practically 1/2 of the country as an “advantage” then it means he’s actually more popular than some of the complainers here at Hot Air will admit. Each state has an independent legislature that votes based on rational self interest for their primary elections order. Nobody made Florida move up, in fact they were punished for it, and Romney certainly had no “advantage in Florida other than what he earned by hard work and discipline.

February:
4th Nevada, 4th–11th, Maine
7th, Colorado, Minnesota, Missouri (Newt failed to get on the ballot in Missouri)
28th, Arizona, Michigan
3rd, Washington
March:
6th, Alaska, Georgia, Idaho, Massachusetts, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Vermont, Virginia (Newt failed to get on the ballot in Virginia)
6-10th, Wyoming (caucus)

Also many of these states are in the same equivalent order as they were in 2008. Washington only has 4% of the population as Mormons. The largest Mormon population state, Utah, votes last in the whole country on June 26th.

scotash on February 2, 2012 at 1:38 PM

Can’t read another hit job!
You can all make fun of him and I don’t think I can stand another article but thought this was relevant:

Sometimes, this facet of Romney’s personality isn’t so subtle.

In July 1996, the 14-year-old daughter of Robert Gay, a partner at Bain Capital, had disappeared. She had attended a rave party in New York City and gotten high on ecstasy. Three days later, her distraught father had no idea where she was. Romney took immediate action. He closed down the entire firm and asked all 30 partners and employees to fly to New York to help find Gay’s daughter. Romney set up a command center at the La Guardia Marriott and hired a private detective firm to assist with the search.

He established a toll-free number for tips, coordinating the effort with the NYPD, and went through his Rolodex and called everyone Bain did business with in New York, and asked them to help find his friend’s missing daughter.Romney’s accountants at Price Waterhouse Cooper put up posters on street poles, while cashiers at a pharmacy owned by Bain put fliers in the bag of every shopper. Romney and the other Bain employees scoured every part of New York and talked with everyone they could – prostitutes, drug addicts – anyone.

That day, their hunt made the evening news, which featured photos of the girl and the Bain employees searching for her.

As a result, a teenage boy phoned in, asked if there was a reward, and then hung up abruptly. The NYPD traced the call to a home in New Jersey, where they found the girl in the basement, shivering and experiencing withdrawal symptoms from a massive ecstasy dose.

Doctors later said the girl might not have survived another day. Romney’s former partner credits Mitt Romney with saving his daughter’s life, saying, “It was the most amazing thing, and I’ll never forget this to the day I die.”

So, here’s my epiphany:

Mitt Romney simply can’t help himself. He sees a problem, and his mind immediately sets to work solving it, sometimes consciously, and sometimes not-so-consciously. He doesn’t do it for self-aggrandizement, or for personal gain. He does it because that’s just how he’s wired.

Many people are unaware of the fact that when Romney was asked by his old employer, Bill Bain, to come back to Bain & Company as CEO to rescue the firm from bankruptcy, Romney left Bain Capital to work at Bain & Company for an annual salary of one dollar. When Romney went to the rescue of the 2002 Salt Lake Olympics, he accepted no salary for three years, and wouldn’t use an expense account. He also accepted no salary as Governor of Massachusetts.

Character counts!! ( yes…that’s worth saying again!) Character Counts !!!!!

Bambi on February 2, 2012 at 2:03 PM

So Bambie is posting the same talking points on every HA post regarding Mitt.
Is this your assignment?

evergreenland on February 2, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Bambi on February 2, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Thank you Bambi, and yes character does count.

WolvenOne on February 2, 2012 at 2:45 PM

ASnd what charachter is it that you kick your opponent while he is down and you know you are winning? no thanks that kind of person in my definiton is nasty.

evergreenland on February 2, 2012 at 2:49 PM

I have no problem with conservative women. I have problems with political whores like Nikki Haley who sell themselves to the highest bidder. In this case the bid was $36,000 from Romney who paid off her debts in exchange for an endorsement.

angryed on February 2, 2012 at 10:49 AM

Aren’t you the guy that said you’d vote for Obama in the general? Why should anybody care what you have to say, seeing as you’re happy to stab the country in the back if your guy doesn’t win the nomination.

Swerve22 on February 2, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Dude seems to be in the cruise mode now.

hawkdriver on February 2, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Hey, Swerve, it was the truly evil George Soros that said “There’s not a dime’s worth of difference” between RINO Romney (aka Obama-Lite) and the J@ck@ss-In-Chief.” So who’s stabbin’ who in the back??? Oh yeah, with Willard (from the RAT movie of the same name), real conservatives and ALL of the TEA folks will be thrown under the bus for this assinine RepublicRAT establishment notion of “electability.” What an absolute CROCK!!! RINO Romney will be beaten to a pulp by Soros and his many, many minions, Axelrod and the MSM, and Ob@st@rd himself “Thank You So Much For RomneyCare.” Willard will be TOAST even before he finishes his acceptance speech!?!

Colatteral Damage on February 2, 2012 at 4:15 PM

One other thing, Thank You, STUPID Party!?!

Colatteral Damage on February 2, 2012 at 4:15 PM

AngryEd, I have to say I admire the demeanor and civility you’ve exhibited in this thread.

GuitarMark on February 2, 2012 at 10:27 PM

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