Arizona next to tackle PEU reform?

posted at 9:15 am on February 1, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

If you liked the show in Madison a year ago, start packing your bags for Phoenix — and be sure to get a long-term hotel room.  Arizona will follow Wisconsin’s lead in public-employee union reform as a means to tackle their pension overhang and budget issues, but Republicans in control of the legislature plan to go much farther than Scott Walker (h/t ExJon):

Brahm Resnik gives a rundown of the proposal for AZ Central:

The bills would:

-Make it illegal for government bodies to collectively bargain with employee groups. Public safety unions would be included in the ban.

–End the practice of automatic payroll deductions for union dues.

–Ban compensation of public employees for union work.

Wisconsin’s collective bargaining law enacted last year made unions effectively irrelevant by limiting issues that could be bargained by a government and an employee group. Arizona’s bills would do away with collective bargaining entirely and also go beyond Wisconsin law by including public safety unions.

Coupled with Gov. Jan Brewer’s plan to do away with civil-service protections  for state employees, the new legislation could make Arizona ground zero for union protests during this election year.

This could be just an opening position for Republican legislators, who represent a strongly right-to-work state and will have more political support for some kind of reform than Republicans did in Wisconsin.  They might be offering the worst-case scenario to unions in order to force some concessions more along the lines of what took place in Wisconsin.  If not, they are setting themselves up for a big, nasty fight in the middle of an election year.

But that has interesting consequences elsewhere, too.  Now that Arizona has dropped this bombshell, unions will want to spend as much money and time as possible in defeating it.  That will, however, require a diversion of increasingly scarce resources from elsewhere — perhaps from Wisconsin, where the Walker recall has begun to bog down in majority-approval ratings for Wisconsin’s reforming governor.  It might also mean spending less time and money organizing for the presidential election this fall, as it certainly will in Arizona.  Big Labor has plenty of cash for one big fight, but three simultaneously?  And if the money runs low, they’re going to shift resources to their largest existential threat.


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But yeah. We need a national “right-to-work” law.

TKindred on February 1, 2012 at 9:49 AM

sorry respectfully disagree … no more then we “need” a national CCW law….

this is a states issue ….. I choose to live in a right to work state … but it is not the federal gov’ts job to tell the states they have to be right to work or honor other states CCW ….
If I am misreading your point I am sorri … now it would not hurt my feelings if all the states choose to become right to work states … but that has to come from the states … not fed ….

conservative tarheel on February 1, 2012 at 1:39 PM

NC has a law that prohibits any governmental entity, (City, county or state) or person in charge of governmental department (such as police chief, Sheriff, City Manager/county mgr., Mayor, etc.) from engaging in any bargaining with a union or any of its representatives or members. NC is also a right to work state. There are some public safety unions in NC but they accomplish nothing other than to pay union dues because they have no contracts and have never received a single thing from their union being able to bargain. Love it.

they lie on February 1, 2012 at 1:51 PM

Karl Mangus…who’s Pat C?

LtT26 on February 1, 2012 at 2:21 PM

End the practice of automatic payroll deductions for union dues.

This alone will work wonders. Make these PE’s write a check every f’n week.

scituate_tgr on February 1, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Common Ohio, get back up on the horse.

scituate_tgr on February 1, 2012 at 2:30 PM

LtT26 on February 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM

Sadly it is never the many that cause our problems. They don’t put minimum speed limit signs out for you and me. They don’t tell the brilliant not to drink bleach.

The few, loud mouthed, whiner, thugs have ruined it for all the good ones and there are many. Unfortunately we can’t afford to pay the loud mouths off anymore and a reasonable system that essentially matches the private sector is beyond reach because they sucked the teet dry.

When the silent majority starts opening their collective mouths again and with luck we may be able to get back to some semblance of reason.

Thanks for your service though and best wishes.

landowner on February 1, 2012 at 2:35 PM

but it is not the federal gov’ts job to tell the states they have to be right to work or honor other states CCW ….

conservative tarheel on February 1, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Yes and no.
Right to work is not a guaranteed right stated in the Constitution.
The right own and bear arms is. It was important enough to be placed at number 2, right behind freedom to exercise ones religion and freedom of speech.

Mimzey on February 1, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Criminal charges are not considered likely against the customer who shot at the suspects.

Read more: http://www.wisn.com/news/30338153/detail.html#ixzz1l9giYMwP

Logboy on February 1, 2012 at 1:14 PM

That could just as easily have gone in the other direction…and its not settled yet.
I’m tellin’ ya, its foolish to do what this guy did. An anti gun prosecutor and its a different story. I stray bullet hits a bystander and YOU’RE in prison. You shot first and the perpetrators rounds hits someone and suddenly his lawyer has him the victim who “Never planned on shooting…until you made him act in self defense”.

Mimzey on February 1, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Read more: http://www.wisn.com/news/30338153/detail.html#ixzz1l9giYMwP

Logboy on February 1, 2012 at 1:14 PM

…also, being prosecuted is not the only way your life can be forever changed. The person that he shot, has a very, very good case for suing the man into poverty.

Mimzey on February 1, 2012 at 3:29 PM

they are setting themselves up for a big, nasty fight in the middle of an election year

Bring it on Nancy-boy-thugs! Out here, we eat scorpions for breakfast!

Mr_Magoo on February 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM

sorry respectfully disagree … no more then we “need” a national CCW law….

this is a states issue ….. I choose to live in a right to work state … but it is not the federal gov’ts job to tell the states they have to be right to work or honor other states CCW ….
If I am misreading your point I am sorri … now it would not hurt my feelings if all the states choose to become right to work states … but that has to come from the states … not fed ….

conservative tarheel on February 1, 2012 at 1:39 PM

Totally agree. Believe it or not, there are some things (a lot of things really) that the feds don’t have jurisdictions over, not that you would ever get them to admit such a thing. But that’s the fact, read the Constitution everybody.

Axion on February 1, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Nice! Indiana is about to formally pass Right to Work here. I expect the rest of the Rust Belt will follow in due time.

BritCarGuy on February 1, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Done.

Barnestormer on February 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Done.

Barnestormer on February 1, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Exxxxxceelent!

Mimzey on February 1, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Arizona should have excluded police, firefighters and other safety employees like Wisconsin did. Ohio tried banning all public employee collective bargaining, included police and firefighters, and their law was defeated in a referendum. Many scare ads were used to frighten people that the ban would affect police response, etc., and therefore people’s safety.

NbyNW on February 1, 2012 at 5:29 PM

as a casual observer on this thread, a few things…

Wisconsin…walker will probably be crucified but in the minds of many of my friends (and me) will be a martyr. long time coming in the birthplace of the “progressive movement” (progressive being a nicer term than socialist so I guess Wis was also the birthplace of political “spin-speak”).

and then I see all the references to open/concealed carry…anybody else notice that we are returning to the old west? I guess it was inevitable since those that only wanted to work hard and be left alone became victims of those that didn’t want any part of that nonsense. but reminds me that I need to apply for my Wis CC permit.

Good luck brewer! you are in for the fight of your life.

teejk on February 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Wisconsin…walker will probably be crucified but in the minds of many of my friends (and me) will be a martyr.
teejk on February 1, 2012 at 6:14 PM

Hope not. The number of recall signatures is kinda bogus imo. The only qualifications to sign the petition was that a person be 18 yrs old..not a felon, and reside in the state for 28 days
..I have no proof, but can’t help but wonder how many out of state people were bused in and given a months residence in order to legally sign the petition. The unions spent in excess of 9 million on something.

Mimzey on February 1, 2012 at 7:21 PM

This is going to get very ugly very fast. If we thought the demonstrations in Wisconsin were out of control these will be twenty times worse because of how much stronger this bill is.

Blu3Yeti on February 2, 2012 at 12:24 AM

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