Open thread: Florida; Update: Romney raised $24 million in fourth quarter; Update: Romney wins
posted at 7:14 pm on January 31, 2012 by Allahpundit
Drudge says the exit polls show Romney by 14 so we should get a call promptly at 8 p.m. ET. You’re watching for the final margin and for Newt’s speech afterward. If Mitt makes it to 50 percent in a closed primary he’s got a dynamite talking point tomorrow; if Gingrich holds him to a single-digit spread, then … “moral victory” I guess? (Newt assured ABC this morning that “I’m not going to lose big in Florida.”) Romney’s speech should be the standard “you can tell I’m conservative because I love America super lots” message but Newt’s could go different ways. Gracious loser? Big-picture “vision”? Pep talk to his supporters to battle on towards the convention? Or something bitter about how Romney hates religious liberty and Holocaust survivors? Maybe it’ll be all four, with Good Newt and Bad Newt battling for his soul before our very eyes.
Full exit polls are coming at eight but first a few scraps from CBS:
Two in three Florida primary voters say the presidential debates were an important factor in their vote, according to early CBS News exit polls. That’s a positive sign for Mitt Romney, who was widely seen as besting rival Newt Gingrich in the two Sunshine State debates over the past week…
Electability was what Florida Republican voters were seeking in a candidate: 45 percent said the most important candidate quality is that they could defeat President Obama. That was followed by having the right experience (20 percent), having strong character (17 percent) and being a true conservative (13 percent)…
A majority of Florida Republican voters – 57 percent — were happy with the candidates on the ballot. But in a potentially troubling sign for Republicans in this swing state, 39 percent said they were not satisfied.
More from our Greenroomer Karl, who culled Fox News’s exit poll data from Twitter: “Romney winning 58% of those who say beating Obama is biggest priority. Romney winning seniors by 15% over Newt. Romney is last among those who say electing a ‘true conservative’ is most important (shocka). Romney winning Hispanics by 27%. Gingrich only leading Romney among evangelicals by 4%.” Seniors used to be Newt’s bread and butter; hard to imagine anyone staying competitive in Florida when you’re in that deep a hole with that demographic. One other fun fact via the NYT:
Negative ads were so prevalent in the final week before the Florida primary that they accounted for 92 percent of all campaign commercials that ran.
And the most heavily broadcast commercial this past weekend was not one featuring Mr. Romney or Mr. Gingrich but Tom Brokaw, the former NBC News anchor whose image the Romney campaign co-opted for an ad that used a 25-second clip from an old newscast on Mr. Gingrich’s political troubles.
A consolation prize for Santorum fans tonight: According to PPP, he leads Romney by 11 points in next week’s nonbinding primary in Missouri and fares better head to head against Romney in Ohio than Gingrich does. His favorable ratings are also vastly higher than Mitt’s and Newt’s in both states. If Gingrich dropped out soon, Santorum would stand a real chance of consolidating the Not Romney vote and winning the nomination. But watch the clip below; Newt’s promising to battle on for another six to eight months if need be, and there’s every reason to believe he’ll do it. You know who that benefits?
Here’s the Google Florida results map, or of course you could follow along in the sidebar with the handy Townhall election widget. Lots of updates coming, especially once we get the full exit polls, so stand by. For what it’s worth, I’ve now settled on a candidate to support in the race. He isn’t perfect — who is? — but he’s more human than Romney and less destructive than Newt. Meet the solution to our problems.
Update: Let’s get the ball rolling tonight with Rick Tyler of Newt’s Super PAC wondering whether a “birth defect” might be the cause of Romney’s lying.
Update: Most polls in Florida closed at 7 p.m. but the panhandle is open until eight. Even so, as of 7:15 ET, results are already being reported. As I write this Romney has nearly 100,000 votes in the bank and is above 50 percent. Stay tuned.
Update: Romney and his PAC spent $15 million on ads in Florida. Total number of positive ads he ran in the state: One. It ran 15 times. And it wasn’t even in English.
Update: Zeke Miller of BuzzFeed wonders whether and when Newt will follow Hillary’s path from 2008 in rallying behind the nominee in hopes of a cabinet position. My guess, given Gingrich’s temperament: Never. In fact, given how deep the bitterness runs, Newt might take this as his reward:
In a Washington Post/ABC News poll last week, 49 percent of the respondents nationwide held an unfavorable view of Mr. Romney, while only 31 percent had a favorable one. That is a reversal from last September, when more people held a favorable view of Mr. Romney than an unfavorable one.
Independents, in particular, now have a less favorable opinion of Mr. Romney, with favorable opinions dropping from a high in the mid-40s in late November to a low of 23 percent last week, according to the Post/ABC News poll.
Update: Your photo of the day. Think Newt’s pessimistic about tonight?
Update: Just across the wires, Romney’s fundraising haul was as impressive as you’d expect last quarter: $24 million, up from $14 million in the third quarter and more than double Newt’s take of $10 million. Gingrich may want to run for another six or eight months but right now there’s only one guy in the field who can afford to do that in a meaningful way.
Update: Promptly at 8 p.m., everyone calls Florida for Romney. Now we wait for the margin and to see which Newt we get during the concession speech.
Update: Full exit polls from CNN right here. Back in a few minutes with highlights.
Update: The story of the exit polls is simple: Romney beat Gingrich across the board, in virtually every single demographic except the utmost conservative (“strong” tea party supporters, those who say abortion should always be illegal, etc.). A sample of his margins of victory: Women by 22, Latinos by 23, seniors by 17, married women by 23 (Marianne’s revenge?), tea-party supporters by two, Catholics by 26 (likely a byproduct of Romney’s advantage among Latinos), those who said the economy is the most important issue by 20, and even those who say they’re falling behind economically by a single point. As I write this, with two thirds of all precincts reporting, he’s at 46.9 percent. He probably won’t get to 50, but he may very well top the combined total of Gingrich and Santorum, which stands right now at 44.8 percent.
Update: Chris Cillizza notes that not only was the Florida electorate more Republican than that of the previous three states (thanks to the closed primary), it was also more conservative than it was four years ago when McCain won. Expect to see Team Mitt pointing that out early and often tomorrow as proof of his appeal to the right. Meanwhile, John Ellis wonders if the media’s interest in Newt is about to evaporate:
The big dogs, of course, will keep at it. Dan Balz of The Washington Post and John Heilemann of New York Magazine won’t be touched. But everyone who isn’t a brand name political reporter is back on the leash. The army is already starting to demobilize as you read this. It just doesn’t know it yet.
This is how it ends for Newt Gingrich. On the day after the South Carolina primary, he had two busloads of reporters, bloggers and electronic media types following his every word. Tomorrow, he won’t need two buses. He’ll be lucky if the seats are filled on one.
Presidential candidates survive on the oxygen of media coverage. It’s what keeps them going, enables them to keep raising money. Once the coverage is withdrawn, it’s only a matter of time before their candidacies expire. Out of sight, out of mind, out of money.
After tonight, all but one of the GOP presidential candidates will start being taken off life support. By the time we get to Super Tuesday in early March, you probably won’t even remember Rick Santorum’s name.
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Congrats, Allah.
McCain will be the next senator to flip and I’ll take Joe Donnelly as the next Democrat to do so.
alchemist19 on April 4, 2013 at 8:03 PM
Why no mention of evolution? Is that passe?
Mason on April 4, 2013 at 8:07 PM
I’m thinking that all the sensitive lefties who called and emailed Bill’s office to tell him he is a worthless, old, white POS who should be dragged behind a truck and then lit on fire are probably feeling bad about what they did now that he’s seen the light.
Bishop on April 4, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Does this mean you’re finally coming out of the closet?
SWalker on April 4, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Redheads are triste.
Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 8:13 PM
**Six DemonRats to Go*,from my sources,er,rumour(s)!
canopfor on April 4, 2013 at 8:21 PM
If Nelson were up for re-election next year he’d have a different story.
Oh, and did you know he was an astronaut?
Curtiss on April 4, 2013 at 8:22 PM
Why of course. The logic is inescapable.
Cleombrotus on April 4, 2013 at 8:23 PM
Er,thats **Six Senators to Go**!!
http://twitpic.com/ch0c7j
canopfor on April 4, 2013 at 8:23 PM
So basically he is saying Sacred Honor compelled him to do this?
Rocks on April 4, 2013 at 8:24 PM
There is a lot of flotsam and jetsam (and other stuff) floating in that gay-marriage pool. I think I’lll swim elsewhere.
Pork-Chop on April 4, 2013 at 8:24 PM
I dunno. Maybe they were right.
Curtiss on April 4, 2013 at 8:26 PM
There is too much to say about this facepalm-worthy statement. There is so much wrong with trying to make religious arguments (at least from a Christian perspective) in favor of SSM that it’s laughable.
This parade of politicians suddenly having epiphanies that SSM is OK to them is hilarious. Bunch of hypocrites. If it polled well tomorrow to say that Mohammed was the founder of America, I’m sure they’d jump on that bandwagon as well.
Othniel on April 4, 2013 at 8:26 PM
Profiles in
CourageI don’t know what but it’s not Courage. I don’t get these people at all. If the right to “gay marriage” matters to them then how are they all “evolving” on this issue at the time, like birds on a telephone wire that all follow the first one that takes off? What’s the deal?Paul-Cincy on April 4, 2013 at 8:27 PM
God also made murders and rapists, so should we legalize murder and rape because hey, if it was not His will, they wouldn’t exist, right?
/rolleyes
kaltes on April 4, 2013 at 8:27 PM
This doesn’t suprise me. Frankly, I always had the feeling he was gay himself. Just something about him.
BeachBum on April 4, 2013 at 8:28 PM
I keep waiting for one of these submissive, willowy fruit cakes to screw up and say they support BDSM.
With his neck pinched in like that, you have to admit he certainly looks like he’s been spending his nights wearing a gimp mask for a few years…
Asurea on April 4, 2013 at 8:31 PM
The quoting of the Declaration of Independence, and then, ipso facto, “gay marriage” … voila. It’s nutty. This isn’t a well-reasoned argument. Not when you turn your life-long position on a dime, 180 degrees, in the course of a day, because a bunch of other Senators did too.
Paul-Cincy on April 4, 2013 at 8:32 PM
You know I really hate when they use the “LORD” to cite their support for SSM. If Christians get bashed for using their beliefs to object to; then I say supporters aren’t allowed to use the G-O-D the other way either.
Just a thought..
When will O’Reilly accuse the gay side of Bible thumping mmmm?
melle1228 on April 4, 2013 at 8:38 PM
S you’re saying he’s a Space Cadet.
RickB on April 4, 2013 at 8:39 PM
Additionally, the whole, “They’re born gay!” crap is, well, crap. Genetics that discourage breeding die out, by definition. Exclusive homosexuality, as encouraged by these liberal wind bags, is an evolutionary dead end.
TL;DR: God didn’t make homosexuals a feature; they’re a bug(gering).
Asurea on April 4, 2013 at 8:42 PM
My sister’s best friend swears that once SSM becomes legalized she wants to codify her $lave/Ma$ter contract with her partner in the law, and she thinks it should have the same weight as a marriage via equal protection.
I am at the point where I say “oh he!!, why not?” Its all coming down the pipe.. The private has become public..
melle1228 on April 4, 2013 at 8:43 PM
I’m thinking that all the sensitive lefties who called and emailed Bill’s office to tell him he is a worthless, old, white POS who should be dragged behind a truck and then lit on fire are probably feeling bad about what they did now that he’s seen the light.
Bishop on April 4, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Bishop:You sir,have nailed it!:)
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canopfor on April 4, 2013 at 8:44 PM
Me thinks,that after four years of Democrat Operatives,
and working hand in hand with the MSM,and all the Perception/Deception in Polling,and Narrational Hi-Jack
ing,
here we,er,…. the (US of A) are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on April 4, 2013 at 8:47 PM
Once again, the ranks of the foolish golden calf worshipers increases.
Dr. Carlo Lombardi on April 4, 2013 at 9:01 PM
This is typical of the Democrats. They have no scruples and in the case of Nelson, the election is over and he probably won’t run in 6 years. The only people taking a tough stand are the Republicans and, although I don’t agree with them, at least they know they’re taking a tough stand. The Democrats are just duplicitous.
bflat879 on April 4, 2013 at 9:02 PM
Since he doesn’t seem to care about the traditions or meanings of institutions, I guess he’s also for men entering beauty contests as well.
Still, it’s nice to see Democrats citing religion so much nowadays…
…(?)
Dongemaharu on April 4, 2013 at 9:11 PM
I was going to make a crack about two girls, the public, and buying tickets, but…
Asurea on April 4, 2013 at 9:11 PM
This Nelson announcement is different than all but one that we have seen so far in this spurt of announcements. It’s sincere. Everyone else announcing an evolution has believed in gay marriage since the 1990′s (or in one or two cases for only a decade). In contrast, Nelson is looking at different landscape about gay people, and changing his mind. Nelson’s change is as admirable as Portman’s was!
On the other hand, I am sympathetic to why so many Senators hide their honest feelings on this subject for so long. And why some GOP are still hiding their honest feelings that gay marriage would be moral progress.
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 9:32 PM
I had Nelson but tomorrow.
Cindy Munford on April 4, 2013 at 9:35 PM
Oh, yeah. He was just re-elected last year so before next time rolls around he can further evolve “upon reflection” if he thinks the wind blows the other way.
INC on April 4, 2013 at 10:00 PM
He’s not going to become going to espose bigoted views again. Not a single Senator who announced a change in views on SSM is going back. You can forget about you own insane bigotry becoming the mainstream position again.
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 10:04 PM
Nelson is a fake.
I simply cannot wait to give him a piece of my mind. Using the Declaration and God to justify his decision?
Please.
The devil can quote Scripture for his own devices, but Bill didn’t even bother to do that. He just made something up out of whole cloth.
INC on April 4, 2013 at 10:04 PM
It’s sanity to uphold marriage—an institution that’s crossed time, cultures, and religions.
INC on April 4, 2013 at 10:05 PM
It’s bigoted to preserve the meaning of something?
Dongemaharu on April 4, 2013 at 10:11 PM
It’s all BS for a small amount of votes. Watch out for the backfire.
Wade on April 4, 2013 at 10:12 PM
It is far less universal than your unsupported claims make it out to be. The historical record is that there were committed gay couples in ancient Greece. They weren’t called married because marriage was the man owning the woman. The gay couples better reflected the democratic values reflected in the Declaration of Indepedence and the Constitution than the heterosexual marriages of ancient Greece. In ancient Athens, the same ceremony was held for the wife of a new marriage and the introduction of new slave in the household. The exact same ceremony!
Beyond ancient Greece, archeology is full of examples of instutitonal examples of gay relationships, including some of the most successful cultures like medieval Japan.
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Historically, in many cultures, marriage has meant a man’s ownership of a woman. I’d say that’s bigotted.
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 10:17 PM
I was speaking of marriage, not relationships.
INC on April 4, 2013 at 10:22 PM
In America?
Dongemaharu on April 4, 2013 at 10:23 PM
Nelson did nothing that Saint Francis of Assisi wouldn’t have approved of. There has always been a tradition of reasonableness and kindness in our tradition.
But even if you want to condemn Nelson in the way you did, you have to address the moral question of Huckleberry Finn. Huckleberry Finn worried about his sin of helping Jim escape from slavery as it was stealing as defined by his society. Huckleberry Finn finally decides “all right I’ll go to Hell.”
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 10:28 PM
Cool. If you want to focus in America history, we have a record of changing our mind about many forms of bigotry. Why is this different?
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 10:30 PM
HEY! I had Nelson down for Thursday at 6:00!
Although it WAS last Thursday………
Barred on April 4, 2013 at 10:46 PM
Because the purpose of marriage isn’t to accommodate the gay lifestyle, nor is it to own women, nor is it be bigoted just because you say it is. Because one group cannot engage in some sort of activity it doesn’t mean they have a right to engage in that activity. As a man, I have no right to use the ladies restroom. And I’m not butthurt about it either, because I know there’s a purpose behind it that doesn’t include me. And I certainly don’t kneejerk call women bigots because they won’t let me use the ladies room.
Dongemaharu on April 4, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Barred on April 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM
Maybe everything you said would so awesome, but the fact is the purpose of marriage historically was ownerhsip of women, and man aren’t burned at the stake for using a woman’s restroom. They are just stared at funny.
And yes your views are bigotted. There really is no exucse for the barbaric hateful tortures that your tradition put gays through. Buring people alive for your f**** evil morality is so beyond the pale of anything moral and descent that you should be ashamed of what you have to say. Yes, this tradition that you want to support murdered gay people by torture. Tell me how that makes you feel good about what you say.
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 11:12 PM
I think somebody has some issues. *ahem*
Othniel on April 4, 2013 at 11:45 PM
LOL.
Do you think we care what you scream, you pedophile and child-rape supporter?
But it gets much better with what the lying thuja and gay-sex marriage supporters endorse as THEIR “tradition”.
And you want to talk torture, you disgusting pig?
Come on, gay-sex marriage bigot. You want to scream that Christians are responsible for burning people at the stake, you’re going to eat every last word and deed of what your filthy gay-sex marriage community has endorsed, supported and done.
And if you start screaming and bawling about how you can’t be held accountable for this, your blatant bigotry and hypocrisy will be revealed for all to see, and your life as a concern troll will be OVER.
northdallasthirty on April 5, 2013 at 1:23 AM
And what did thuja and its fellow gay-sex marriage supporters do?
Oh, that’s right, deliberately lie and give infected and tainted blood to make thousands of other people sick.
This despite KNOWING:
So that’s your “morality”, you sick thug thuja; you and your fellow gay-sex marriage supporters KNOWINGLY AND DELIBERATELY contaminated the US blood supply, leading to THOUSANDS of innocent people getting HIV and hepatitis and dying.
That’s what you support, pig. That’s what you do. And again, if you so much as raise a whimper about how you can’t be held accountable, you once again prove that you are nothing more than a hypocrite and concern troll.
northdallasthirty on April 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM
So many distortions, so many, so very many, grotesque twists of the human mind toward some sort of mushy end, principles be damned, those ugly, disgusting things.
There must be something infectious acquired when people take political office. It seems so many of them abandon themselves to alternate realities and alternate personalities depending on their goal of keeping the office.
Thus, realities: twisted. Logic: broken, abandoned. Avowed beliefs: bastardized and misrepresented when the idea of losing political office (and perks) arises.
Lourdes on April 5, 2013 at 3:41 AM
I’m sensing some big donations Bill Nelson received not too long ago, prior to this Massively Irrational Thursday Announcement.
Lourdes on April 5, 2013 at 3:51 AM
These sanctimonious POSs are really starting to irate me.
THE CONGRESS HAS THE POWER AND AUTHORITY TO MAKE THE CHANGE W/O HAVING SCOTUS INVOLVED!!!!!
Where is the tax legislation that allows gays to file as a special class, or get special tax treatment on trusts, or exemptions or anything else the LGBT groups claim are infringements on their “rights”?
Why aren’t all these evolved, worthless a-holes submitting and sponsering legislation to change it?
gonnjos on April 5, 2013 at 7:52 AM
Sigh! Senators making petitions to the Supreme Court!
I think they know that the justices are supposed to be interpreting the law (rather than the wind-direction, which so preoccupies these senators).
That’s a laugh too! How do we think the lesbian and the wise latina will rule? SCOTUS, if it has any sense, will treat it as the states voter rights issue it always was.
Californians had a vote. Gays don’t like it. So what?
virgo on April 6, 2013 at 2:52 AM