Gingrich to Santorum: Get lost

posted at 9:15 am on January 31, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Yesterday it was the Gingrich campaign that began complaining publicly about Rick Santorum’s continued presence in the race costing them a shot a Florida.  Today, it’s the candidate himself:

GOP presidential candidate Newt Gingrich says rival Rick Santorum should take a look at the poll numbers, which show Gingrich beating him, and drop out.

“The longer conservatives stay split, the harder it’s going to be for us to [beat Romney],” Gingrich said on FOX and Friends on Tuesday. “And I think that we risk not being able to beat Obama unless we get a conservative. I have to win the nomination.”

Santorum is sapping conservative votes from Gingrich, the former House speaker said.

Oddly, Gingrich didn’t appear as principled on the subject of conservative consolidation when Santorum won Iowa and Gingrich finished fourth, nor when Santorum narrowly edged Gingrich for fourth place in New Hampshire.  If he was concerned about a conservative sacrificing to make sure a conservative alternative had the strength to beat Mitt Romney at that time, Gingrich didn’t pull a muscle leaping out of his chair to volunteer.  Needless to say, neither has Santorum, who told Gingrich in response to run his own campaign:

“I don’t think either one of them are the right choice,” Santorum said, referring to Gingrich and front-runner Mitt Romney. “And if you want to look at the real conservative, we’re the real conservative that can win.”

Santorum touted his victory in Iowa as an advantage he still holds over both candidates.

“Neither Governor Romney nor Newt Gingrich had run as a conservative in a state we had to win. …. I’ve done it,” Santorum said.

Actually, Santorum was talking about Pennsylvania in that statement, not Iowa.  Santorum won’t ask Gingrich to pull out:

Santorum tells Fox News Channel that one candidate shouldn’t tell another “to get out of the race and get out of the way.” …

Santorum says he thinks he’s the better, more conservative candidate himself — but that wouldn’t justify asking Gingrich to quit. He says, “Everybody should run.”

It’s hard to square this notion of Santorum depriving Gingrich of a Florida victory with reality.  First, Florida isn’t really a deeply conservative state, and Santorum wasn’t much of a threat to anyone there after falling far off the pace in South Carolina, where he should have been more of a a threat, especially after winning Iowa.  That didn’t keep Gingrich from scoring a double-digit victory in the Palmetto State with Santorum on the ticket.  Nor did Santorum’s presence in Florida keep Gingrich from rolling up an impressive polling lead early last week, both in the state and nationally.

Gingrich didn’t lose that lead to Santorum, who has barely budged at all from the low double digits in the last two weeks.  He lost support to Romney, thanks to a couple of poor debate performances and this kind of angry, whining behavior on the campaign trail.  It seems that Gingrich wants to find someone to take the blame for a Florida flop, and anyone will do but himself.


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Heh, add another quality of liberals to Gingrich’s character: blames everyone but himself for his own errors.

WealthofNations on January 31, 2012 at 9:19 AM

I’m with Krauthammer. Santorum could do big things after FL.

blatantblue on January 31, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Hey, can’t we all get along?

Fight Obama … not each other.

We need to see your attack Obama skills, not this crap. The most effective Obama fighter will win.

darwin on January 31, 2012 at 9:20 AM

That N00tie: What a charmer.

Philly on January 31, 2012 at 9:21 AM

And what of all the GOP voters who would support either Santorum or Romney but hell no to Gingrich?

It’s not a secured triangle there, where a Santorum supporter would necessarily back Gingrich, were he to pull out.

Take your average Pennsylvania Republican. I’m sure he or she is thinking to themselves, a fellow northeasterner at the top of the ticket like Romney would be much better for the Republican Party on the whole, than a problematic, gaffe’ prone Georgian.

ericdondero on January 31, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Good lord, is there NOTHING this guy won’t cry about?

This quote says it all: “And I think that we risk not being able to beat Obama unless we get a conservative. I have to win the nomination.” If Santorum is also a conservative, splitting the conservative vote, why does it have to be Newt?

I wonder if Newtie has ever been diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

athenanyc on January 31, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Why would Santorum get out? He will do very well in Missouri lol.

mr.idaho on January 31, 2012 at 9:22 AM

Santy makes for a fantastic contrast to Obama and the establishment RINO’s Newt and Willard.

tom daschle concerned on January 31, 2012 at 9:23 AM

I watched the Fox am interview and it was so goofy. “Romney SANG! You gonna sing?” You could tell Gingrich was in no mood.

Marcus on January 31, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Vote for Rick; annoy Newt.

Philly on January 31, 2012 at 9:24 AM

It seems that Gingrich wants to find someone to take the blame for a Florida flop, and anyone will do but himself.

True, but it doesn’t change the fact that one of these guys does need to drop out. If they both remain in the race, Mittens clinches this thing by Super Tuesday(not literally, but in terms of momentum). They can’t keep splitting the conservative vote and expect to have a chance.

As for which one should drop out, my heart tells me Newt since Santorum has run a classier and more focused campaign and I believe he deserves a legit shot at taking Mittens on one-on-one. But my head tells me Rick since Newt is ahead of him in almost every primary or caucus still remaining. Either way, one of them needs to go after Florida.

Doughboy on January 31, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Arrogant wind-bag Gingrich should drop out immediately and stop trying to convince voters that he is a conservative.

Santorum is the ONLY conservative in this race, and the best choice to go up against obama.

‎”I’m not going anywhere. You know I think one opponent calling for the other opponent to get out just shows the weakness that opponent feels in their own campaign. I’m not calling for anybody to get out, We’ll beat them straight up.” ~ Rick Santorum

Pork-Chop on January 31, 2012 at 9:24 AM

“I have to win the nomination.”

Really Newt? Of the three of you, YOU are my least favorite choice. And that opinion isn’t imporved by all the whining, personal attacks, and temper tantrums.

Happy Nomad on January 31, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Good job Ed on the captions! LOL!

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on January 31, 2012 at 9:25 AM

Its a circular firing squad, I tells ya. Sheer madhouse.

Or maybe its just Newt’s oversized ego walking into Florida and saying: hey, my oversized ego is not big enough yet. Everyone else hasn’t bowed down to me and kissed my ring yet.

Kablooey.

Always Right on January 31, 2012 at 9:25 AM

Oddly, Gingrich didn’t appear as principled on the subject of conservative consolidation when Santorum won Iowa and Gingrich finished fourth, nor when Santorum narrowly edged Gingrich for fourth place in New Hampshire. If he was concerned about a conservative sacrificing to make sure a conservative alternative had the strength to beat Mitt Romney at that time, Gingrich didn’t pull a muscle leaping out of his chair to volunteer.

Ed,

Step back … think about what you are doing to your reputation.

Santorum has NEVER been ahead of Newt … Never. He was closer during the Iowa blitzkrieg, but has been 10-20 points down to Newt over most of the last 3 months.

Why would a thinking person type such ignorant nonsense?

Answer … A THINKING person wouldn’t.

MarkCasper on January 31, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Romney to Gingrich and Santorum: Ha ha!

ElectricPhase on January 31, 2012 at 9:26 AM

I wonder if Newtie has ever been diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

athenanyc on January 31, 2012 at 9:22 AM

This? From a supporter of the guy who rode in a BUS that drove into an auditorium in South Carolina so that he could emerge from it to cheers and photo flashes?

Romney is going to try to out Obama Obama and it’s going to be funny. Sad, and funny.

Marcus on January 31, 2012 at 9:27 AM

Newt Gingrich has had opportunities to rally conservatives behind him. He’s risen and fallen twice in the polling. If he couldn’t make the sale for more than one state’s primary, then he should stop nagging Rick Santorum to drop out and start figuring out a better way to make the case for himself. Rick Santorum won Iowa because he stuck it out, worked hard, and was in the right place to benefit from other candidates fading out. He’s getting a steady core of support because he’s effectively made the case for himself and against his competitors. It’s still early and Rick Santorum may gain support as Newt and Romney lose voters.

Jill1066 on January 31, 2012 at 9:28 AM

What we need are fewer voices to represent us.

The GOP is turning into the demorat party.

Bishop on January 31, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Why would Santorum want out?

Axe on January 31, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Santorum scored a direct hit on Romney last debate. The kid stays in the race.

RepubChica on January 31, 2012 at 9:29 AM

What we need are fewer voices to represent us.

Bishop on January 31, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Point taken. But, another point: I’d settle for one.

Axe on January 31, 2012 at 9:30 AM

Newt is an egotistical and deluded windbag. His arrogance is why he is so detested.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM

“I have to win the nomination.”

Really Newt? Of the three of you, YOU are my least favorite choice. And that opinion isn’t imporved by all the whining, personal attacks, and temper tantrums.

Happy Nomad on January 31, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Imagine if we were to run this narcissist against Obama. Narcissist versus Narcissist? The 2 of them should be locked in a room together so they can shout about themselves.

V7_Sport on January 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Newt is an egotistical and deluded windbag. His arrogance is why he is not liked.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM

geez Newt. All these people trying to give you the benefit of the doubt and you still can’t keep your mouth shut.

DHChron on January 31, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Newt would have better served his campaign by bringing Rep. Allen West on board, undermining the redistricting efforts to oust him.

heroyalwhyness on January 31, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Here’s an open call for anyone who is sick of Newt’s whining to donate to the Santorum campaign. Let’s put Newt out of his misery. It’s the least we can do.

https://www.ricksantorum.com/civicrm/contribute/transact?reset=1&id=1

Philly on January 31, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Rick Santorum won Iowa because he stuck it out, worked hard, and was in the right place to benefit from other candidates fading out. He’s getting a steady core of support because he’s effectively made the case for himself and against his competitors. It’s still early and Rick Santorum may gain support as Newt and Romney lose voters.

Jill1066 on January 31, 2012 at 9:28 AM

Santorum put all his eggs in the Iowa basket and it did pay off(albeit barely and belatedly). But he’s had zero momentum since then. He barely registered with voters in New Hampshire or South Carolina and he’s written off Florida. I like the guy, but unless Newt takes one for the team and withdraws(which based on this thread alone clearly ain’t happening), he doesn’t have a prayer. Bottom line is that one of these two will have to pull out and endorse the other if the endgame is in fact to deny Romney the nomination.

Doughboy on January 31, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Sorry for the double post. I edited and it printed both.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 9:32 AM

The 2 of them should be locked in a room together [...]

V7_Sport on January 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Ego Sumo Wrestling.

Axe on January 31, 2012 at 9:33 AM

Imagine if we were to run this narcissist against Obama. Narcissist versus Narcissist? The 2 of them should be locked in a room together so they can shout about themselves.

V7_Sport on January 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM

lololol!

blatantblue on January 31, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Newt is an egotistical and deluded windbag. His arrogance is why he is so detested.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM

Newt is an egotistical and deluded windbag. His arrogance is why he is not liked.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM

What’s this? What’s this? Were you dumbing it down, or softening your punch? :)

Axe on January 31, 2012 at 9:35 AM

softening the punch

DHChron on January 31, 2012 at 9:36 AM

I’ll say it again. Gingrich is the GOP’s Obama.

Zaggs on January 31, 2012 at 9:37 AM

I agree with Darwin. Leave each other alone. Fight Obama! Campaign on what you would do versus what Obama is doing.

Which do you want to win, the nomination or the election? Either one will depend on your relationship to the current President rather than on your relationship with members of your own party.

Fight Obama! Get out the ABO vote. Motivate the OMG crowd. Ignore the RINO’s.

gasmeterguy on January 31, 2012 at 9:38 AM

And what of all the GOP voters who would support either Santorum or Romney but hell no to Gingrich?

It’s not a secured triangle there, where a Santorum supporter would necessarily back Gingrich, were he to pull out.

Take your average Pennsylvania Republican. I’m sure he or she is thinking to themselves, a fellow northeasterner at the top of the ticket like Romney would be much better for the Republican Party on the whole, than a problematic, gaffe’ prone Georgian.

ericdondero on January 31, 2012 at 9:21 AM

Well I can weigh in on this….seeing as I’m a lifelong Keystone
stater. Santorum was my Senator for 2 terms, always like the guy.
But do I want, prefer 2 Northeastern R’s.

umm, no. in fact I do not prefer one.

I always remember Reagan’s statement about the Northeast Establisnment. Once he got East of the Mississippi, he
grew horns.

ToddPA on January 31, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Gingrich didn’t lose that lead to Santorum, who has barely budged at all from the low double digits in the last two weeks. He lost support to Romney, thanks to a couple of poor debate performances and this kind of angry, whining behavior on the campaign trail. It seems that Gingrich wants to find someone to take the blame for a Florida flop, and anyone will do but himself.

TRUTH!

Show yourself out, Newty.

cicerone on January 31, 2012 at 9:40 AM

Why doesn’t Newt drop out? He’s a liberal compared to someone like Santorum, he’s making Mitt look more seasoned and conservative with every passing day, he’s slowly killing the GOP (not that Mitt isn’t, either), he’s ultra-negative, he doesn’t have any real path to the nomination, and he’s bound to implode at some point – again (which makes it implosion, what, #3?)

Santorum has a better chance of beating Mitt further down the line, and if there’s anyone who can challenge the Mitt/Fox News/RNC organization, it’s Ron Paul and his Ronulans. Basically, there’s no reason for Newt to stay in the race, because all he does is help Mitt, anyway.

Aizen on January 31, 2012 at 9:41 AM

I’ll say it again. Gingrich is the GOP’s Obama.

Zaggs on January 31, 2012 at 9:37 AM

say it with an explanation :)

DHChron on January 31, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Axe on January 31, 2012 at 9:35 AM

Softening the punch.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Rick Perry understood this so he dropped out and endorsed Newt. Santorum , unless he wants a Jimmy Cartrer voting liberal from Massachusetts to win, he also needs to drop out fast.

Look,I like Santorum. He is solid as a rock but he is not ready to win this at this point in his life. People who think it out know this. These are the cards now, Rick needs to fold or Romney takes the entire tournament down so he can lose to Obama.

magic kingdom on January 31, 2012 at 9:41 AM

I think Newt’s right. If they continue to split the Conservative vote, Romney will win.
Santorum hasn’t been roughed up yet; he’s been flying under the radar. He’s looking good because 12 million dollars of Mitt money hasn’t been spent to tear into him yet. Newt is taking all they are throwing at him and he’s still standing.

saspepper on January 31, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Gingrich is sooo freaking Presidential. Where ya been hiding all these years Newton ?

FlaMurph on January 31, 2012 at 9:42 AM

Gingrich thinking he is the conservative, anti-establishment, tea party candidate is absurd.

jbh45 on January 31, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Romney needs Rick to stay in the race. If Rick helps Romney win, there could be an Easter egg waiting for him in the Romney administration.

Philly on January 31, 2012 at 9:44 AM

ToddPA on January 31, 2012 at 9:40 AM

So, do you support Santorum?

I support Rick but would choose Romney over gingrich.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 9:44 AM

A poll recently stated if Santorum dropped out fo the race, Mitt would gain a point.

Fact is, if Santorum dropped out, I have no doubt he would endorse Romney. He’s got a small shot a VP, but personally I think he would be good for Attorney General. He knows the law, and he’s a hard @ss.

rubberneck on January 31, 2012 at 9:45 AM

Newt is an egotistical and deluded windbag. His arrogance is why he is so detested.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 9:31 AM

This is who he is. A man who is completely unable to control his ego. He has ALWAYS been this way. Why in God’s name would anyone want that type of narcissistic personality making life or death decisions? We already have a narcissist in the White House. Gingrich is even MORE egotistical than Barry.

Santorum sets my teeth on edge, and I am confident he could never win the general, but I’d be a whole lot more confident with him in power than Newt anyday. I think it’s going to be painful to watch Newt keep setting his own ass on fire.

BettyRuth on January 31, 2012 at 9:45 AM

What is Santorum doing in Missouri? It’s non binding and ZERO DELEGATE!
Is he just for beauty contest?

Come on Rick go to Colorado where the votes actually count for delegates…

Rick Santorum’s play is to hang around and wait for Newt to self destruct…co that he can be the only anti Romney alternative…

jules on January 31, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Santorum says he thinks he’s the better, more conservative candidate himself — but that wouldn’t justify asking Gingrich to quit. He says, “Everybody should run.”

Translation
I’m not taking votes away from Mitt Romney, I can still be of use by splitting the conservative vote. Romney will give me a position in his administration if I keep blocking Gingrich from surging in the primary.

Part of American’s charm is their endearing quality of naivety, buying what a failed politician is trying to sell them (Santorum lost his Senate reelection by 18 points in his home state) PT Barnum said “there is one born every minute”.

Dr Evil on January 31, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Lots of people don’t want Newton Leroy Gingrich to win this race. Lots of people who aren’t Romney fans are even more iffy when it comes to Newton Leroy Gingrich. What makes him think that he can just add Santorum’s total to his to arrive at his new total if Santorum drops out?

What a whiner.

rogaineguy on January 31, 2012 at 9:47 AM

Can Mitt fans list his conservative accomplishments besides (family and buisness )?

evergreenland on January 31, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Ed, honestly, I can’t disagree with you enough with this statement you wrote in the last paragraph:

Gingrich didn’t lose that lead to Santorum, who has barely budged at all from the low double digits in the last two weeks. He lost support to Romney, thanks to a couple of poor debate performances and this kind of angry, whining behavior on the campaign trail. It seems that Gingrich wants to find someone to take the blame for a Florida flop, and anyone will do but himself.

Are you serious? Don’t you realize that the conservative vote is being split, and that if Santorum would drop out the vast majority of his supporters would flock to Newt? Do you actually believe very many of them would switch to the moderate Romney? And to say Gingrich has “angry, whining behavior” is beyond the pale.

It’s becoming increasingly obvious, Ed, who you’re supporting in this race, and it ain’t Newt and it ain’t Santorum.

jfs756 on January 31, 2012 at 9:49 AM

magic kingdom on January 31, 2012 at 9:41 AM

You know, I don’t vote until March and I would like a choice. I don’t want Mitt or Newt. I am sick and tired of a few states and these establishment types, both the moderates and conservatives, telling me what my choice should be.

I have a novel idea. Let everyone vote and see who THE PEOPLE want.

To some of us, this is not a game.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 9:49 AM

if the endgame is in fact to deny Romney the nomination.

Doughboy on January 31, 2012 at 9:32 AM

Only Gingrich seems to be making the we (conservatives) vs. the dark overlord Romney claim. The fact of the matter is that when it comes to Romney and Gingrich the supposedly electable one isn’t all that electable and the supposedly conservative one isn’t all that conservative.

I’d support Santorum but, sadly, I think he wouldn’t attract the swing vote because of his views on social issues. It would, however, make Axlerod’s head explode to have Santorum as the GOP candidate after all the prep work they’ve done to run against Romney.

Happy Nomad on January 31, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Can you imagine if Rick asked Newt to get out of the race first!

CoffeeLover on January 31, 2012 at 9:49 AM

They each seem so convinced that as a “non-Romney” they will automatically inherit the others votes. Could be… or could not be.

rhombus on January 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Rick Santorum’s play is to hang around and wait for Newt to self destruct…co that he can be the only anti Romney alternative…

jules on January 31, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Rick Santorum isn’t on the ballot’s in all the states.There will be states he’s not even competing in. The only candidate besides Mitt Romney who doesn’t have ballot issues is Ron Paul.

Rick Santorum is making himself useful to Mitt Romney – he hopes that Mitt will return the favor. Rick Santorum isn’t holding any public office, he lost his last reelection bid for the U.S. Senate from his home state. I doubt very seriously that Rick Santorum could even carry Pennsylvania in the General.

Dr Evil on January 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM

I won’t be happy whichever of these three (four, if you include the nutbag Ron Paul) wins the nomination.

Worst. Field. Ever.

I’m voting third party this year. Screw these guys.

And before anyone whines that I’m voting Obama by doing so, allow me to point out that if the GOP were serious about wanting my vote, we wouldn’t be saddled with this pathetic bunch of losers vying for the nomination. The DC power base was all in for Romney from the start, so other (better) candidates were never encouraged to run and were probably actively discouraged..

As far as I’m concerned, GOP = modern-day Whigs.

DRayRaven on January 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM

Can Mitt fans list his conservative accomplishments besides (family and buisness )?

evergreenland on January 31, 2012 at 9:48 AM

Any conservative initiatives pushed while in office were struck down by the leftist MA legislature. But I’m sure you don’t care about that fact.

blatantblue on January 31, 2012 at 9:51 AM

To some of us, this is not a game.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 9:49 AM

Well, in Virginia the primary is not a game so much as it is a joke. Choosing between Romney and Paul really doesn’t make it worth heading to the polling place.

Happy Nomad on January 31, 2012 at 9:51 AM

Gingrich’s ego talks to Gingrich and tells him to do scary things.

ConservativeLaw on January 31, 2012 at 9:52 AM

Does anyone think that maybe Santorum doesn’t feel he should drop out because he wouldn’t have a candidate to throw his support behind, anyway?

Let’s be real; as much as Santorum and Ron Paul have had their heated arguments over foreign policy and certain social issues, Santorum would probably endorse Paul over Tweedledee and Tweedledum, after all the attacks he’s launched against them over the last few weeks (all of which were necessary attacks, by the way.)

Aizen on January 31, 2012 at 9:52 AM

excuse you, newt. let santorum decide when and if he wants to get out of the race. that’s not your decision to make, mr. “i have to be the nominee.” we already have a president with a big ego, we don’t need another one thank you.

Sachiko on January 31, 2012 at 9:52 AM

I don’t take umbrage with Gingrich’s bravado. He’ll need it fighting no only the other candidates but also the GOP Moderate Machine:

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/01/31/newt-battles-mush-from-the-wim/

Czar of Defenestration on January 31, 2012 at 9:53 AM

What is Santorum doing in Missouri? It’s non binding and ZERO DELEGATE!
Is he just for beauty contest?

Come on Rick go to Colorado where the votes actually count for delegates…

Rick Santorum’s play is to hang around and wait for Newt to self destruct…co that he can be the only anti Romney alternative…

jules on January 31, 2012 at 9:46 AM

Yeah, Santorum dropping out of Florida and heading to Missouri which has no delegates tells you all you need to know about his strategery. He’s focusing on meaningless states in terms of the big picture(Iowa, Missouri) while he waits for either Newt to self-destruct or for Newt and Mittens to tear each other to pieces.

The problem with that is Newt has self-destructed twice now in this campaign yet he’s still drawing 20% support and hanging around. And he and Mittens have gone after each other repeatedly which does nothing but cause their numbers to seesaw back and forth, leaving Santorum languishing in 3rd or 4th place in every state.

Doughboy on January 31, 2012 at 9:53 AM

Ed is being patently dishonest. Newt has never asked Santorum to drop out, or as Ed says, “Get lost”. Gingrich has simply stated a fact- the not-Mitt vote is split and it will result in Mitt winning. The math is the math.

NoNails on January 31, 2012 at 9:54 AM

BettyRuth on January 31, 2012 at 9:45 AM

You are so right about Newt. When he came up in the polls, I told my husband that if they try to make this a two way race between him and Romney, Mitt will win. It is really Newt that is helping Romney.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 9:54 AM

They each seem so convinced that as a “non-Romney” they will automatically inherit the others votes. Could be… or could not be.

rhombus on January 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM

If Gingrich keeps pushing this, he’s going to make more than a few enemies. Santorum doesn’t currently have a job- the likelyhood of Romney winning and giving him one is FAR greater than Newt winning anything.

BettyRuth on January 31, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Brokered convention.

OmahaConservative on January 31, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Keep slamming Newt folks. Keep saying he is a windbag with an ego

You are going to get Romney and you will get a second Obama term, which means game over for America as we know it. Liberal republicans ALWAYS lose the presidential election. Why is this so hard for people to see?

magic kingdom on January 31, 2012 at 9:55 AM

I’m voting third party this year. Screw these guys.
And before anyone whines that I’m voting Obama by doing so, allow me to point out that if the GOP were serious about wanting my vote, we wouldn’t be saddled with this pathetic bunch of losers vying for the nomination. The DC power base was all in for Romney from the start, so other (better) candidates were never encouraged to run and were probably actively discouraged..
As far as I’m concerned, GOP = modern-day Whigs.

DRayRaven on January 31, 2012 at 9:50 AM

You’re partly right AND wrong:

Vote for a Tea Party in 2016. The GOP is dead for me as well.
HOWEVER…
In 2012, we *must* defeat Obama, if for no other reason (and I have dozens…) than Supreme Court appointees.

Czar of Defenestration on January 31, 2012 at 9:56 AM

I think Newt’s right. If they continue to split the Conservative vote, Romney will win.
Santorum hasn’t been roughed up yet; he’s been flying under the radar. He’s looking good because 12 million dollars of Mitt money hasn’t been spent to tear into him yet. Newt is taking all they are throwing at him and he’s still standing.

saspepper on January 31, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Very well said.

evergreenland on January 31, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Darth Mitt used his Jedi mind trick to get all those “conservatives” to join the race to split the “conservative” vote.

The Newtron Moonwalker and Han Santorum CAN’T leave the race until Darth Mitt tells them to.

Gunlock Bill on January 31, 2012 at 9:57 AM

It’s hard to square this notion of Santorum depriving Gingrich of a Florida victory with reality. First, Florida isn’t really a deeply conservative state, and Santorum wasn’t much of a threat to anyone there after falling far off the pace in South Carolina, where he should have been more of a a threat, especially after winning Iowa. That didn’t keep Gingrich from scoring a double-digit victory in the Palmetto State with Santorum on the ticket. Nor did Santorum’s presence in Florida keep Gingrich from rolling up an impressive polling lead early last week, both in the state and nationally.
Gingrich didn’t lose that lead to Santorum, who has barely budged at all from the low double digits in the last two weeks. He lost support to Romney, thanks to a couple of poor debate performances and this kind of angry, whining behavior on the campaign trail. It seems that Gingrich wants to find someone to take the blame for a Florida flop, and anyone will do but himself.

Ed, I guess it depends on what reality you’re living in. Hello? Of course Santorum is splitting the conservative vote with Gingrich. Romney is the winner as long as Santorum stays in the race.

If Santorum was polling close to Romney and Newt was down as low as Santorum is, wouldn’t we all be encouraging Newt to drop out? I think so. If the goal is to get a not-Romney nominated, Santorum should drop out. If he doesn’t and Romney wins because of him, he and his supporters will be to blame. Pure logic.

Newt lost support in Florida because of the fortune the Romney establishment has spent on untrue negative ads ie Iowa, and the complicity of the establishment media. Calling out the lies and distortions may be considered whining by some. Others look at defending yourself as a positive, especially when recalling other politicians, like GWBush who let outrageous, slanderous claims against him stand without reply.

Rage Against The Machine. Vote for Newt.

IndeCon on January 31, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Vote for Rick; annoy Newt.

Philly on January 31, 2012 at 9:24 AM

If Santorum is still in the race come TX-I certainly will.
If he isn’t-I’ll skip that race on primary day.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 31, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Like many of the commenters here at HotGas, Newt Gingrinch is an ANGRY man. Collie?

My collie says:

“Do not make friends with a hot-tempered person,
do not associate with one easily angered,
or you may learn their ways
and get yourself ensnared.”
–Proverbs 22:24-25 NIV

Vote Santorum in 2012.

CyberCipher on January 31, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Gingrich has simply stated a fact- the not-Mitt vote is split and it will result in Mitt winning. The math is the math.

NoNails on January 31, 2012 at 9:54 AM

That is not a fact and you cannot point to one single shred of evidence to support it. You assume that ALL of Santorum’s vote will go to Gingrich.

csdeven on January 31, 2012 at 9:58 AM

It seems that Gingrich wants to find someone to take the blame for a Florida flop, and anyone will do but himself.

Pretty much sums it up. Newt has to know there is no guarantee Santorum voters will move to him. As I’ve said ad nauseum, I don’t like any of these candidates but right now I see the old bad Newt, sort of a cross between Pat Buchanan and Bill Clinton.

Deanna on January 31, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Annoy a Newt-ist~ vote Santorum!

Rage Against the Man in the Moon!

profitsbeard on January 31, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Newt is starting to come across as less and less likeable. If he gets the nomination and whines like this, the Obamanable Machine will chew him up and spit him out like a cooked peanut shell.

CorporatePiggy on January 31, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Santorum is the anti-Newt. If Rick gets out, most of his votes will go to Romney.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 10:03 AM

Keep slamming Newt folks. Keep saying he is a windbag with an ego

You are going to get Romney and you will get a second Obama term, which means game over for America as we know it. Liberal republicans ALWAYS lose the presidential election. Why is this so hard for people to see?

magic kingdom on January 31, 2012 at 9:55 AM

Post of the week.

jfs756 on January 31, 2012 at 10:04 AM

Annoy a Newt-ist~ vote Santorum!

Rage Against the Man in the Moon!

profitsbeard on January 31, 2012 at 10:00 AM

Our new motto!

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 10:05 AM

In terms of temperment, putting aside issues of policy and political philosophy, Newt is the least qualified person in the race and I include Bambi in that calculation.

Of course Bambi is unqualified for a host of other reasons.

PackerBronco on January 31, 2012 at 10:05 AM

I think Newt’s right. If they continue to split the Conservative vote, Romney will win.
Santorum hasn’t been roughed up yet; he’s been flying under the radar. He’s looking good because 12 million dollars of Mitt money hasn’t been spent to tear into him yet. Newt is taking all they are throwing at him and he’s still standing.

saspepper on January 31, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Very well said.

evergreenland on January 31, 2012 at 9:57 AM

Yes, Rick Santorum has not yet had to face the wrath of the Romney republican machine ie ‘destroy Santorum’ campaign.

Santorum and his supporters have to know deep-down that he’s helping Romney at this point. Just makes one wonder if there’s any collusion with the Romney camp going on.

IndeCon on January 31, 2012 at 10:05 AM

Gingrich has simply stated a fact- the not-Mitt vote is split and it will result in Mitt winning. The math is the math.

NoNails on January 31, 2012 at 9:54 AM

That is not a fact and you cannot point to one single shred of evidence to support it. You assume that ALL of Santorum’s vote will go to Gingrich.

csdeven on January 31, 2012 at 9:58 AM

It’s just … do we have any data on this? Maybe the Green Room can compile something?

I keep hearing that Santorum supporters will become Gingrinauts when Santorum goes home. But I like Santorum, and after that will step into tent Romney. I don’t know of any reason to believe any particular percentage of Santorum supporters will move to any particular alternative?

Axe on January 31, 2012 at 10:05 AM

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 10:05 AM

I’m in!

annoyinglittletwerp on January 31, 2012 at 10:06 AM

ToddPA on January 31, 2012 at 9:40 AM

So, do you support Santorum?

I support Rick but would choose Romney over gingrich.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 9:44 AM

I support Santorum….and after him Newt.

Sorry, no Romney….to me he is the ONE candidate
who is ineligible. Why? ROMNEYCARE.

ToddPA on January 31, 2012 at 10:07 AM

I’m pretty amazed that Newt’s arrogant, Banty Rooster personality has made me re-evaluate a Santorum presidency. I’m still voting Mitt, but the sweater vest candidate is far more appealing than moonynewt.

BettyRuth on January 31, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Gingrich thinking he is the conservative, anti-establishment, tea party candidate is absurd.

jbh45 on January 31, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Voters thinking Gingrich is the conservative, anti-establishment, tea party candidate is absurd.

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 10:07 AM

Brokered convention.

OmahaConservative on January 31, 2012 at 9:54 AM

That’s who I’m voting for and I hope one of the candidates from our A-list decide to throw his or her hat into ring at such a convention.

PackerBronco on January 31, 2012 at 10:08 AM

The longer Mr. Gigrich keeps up this whiny, churlish (and childish) behavious, the sooner he will fall in popularity and the polls and the sooner the far more serious and credible Sen. Santorum will move into contention.

There are a lot of things about Gingrich that are good…his active mind always has new ways of looking at things, he is quick on his feet and is always interesting to listen to. But this kind of silliness weakens his credibility.

I think Gingrich lives inside his imagination, in some sense. He imagines himself debating Pres. Obama in what he calls a Lincoln Douglas style series of 7 debates. Seriously? This is never going to happen even if Gingich follows him around like a puppy.

Further, is Gingrich that great in a debate? He has been good in some as he attacked the media and Romney but he has lost others. Santorum has consistently done well in debates and keeps getting better…and he is more serious. I would prefer to see a steady Santorum in the debate than a flat Gingrich (Gingrich says that he was unprepared for the level of lies that Romney told in the last debate…what does he expect from Obama?).

No, Santorum should stay in. Say a prayer for him, his family, for his little girl Isabella and ask God to give him the strength to keep on.

Blaise on January 31, 2012 at 10:08 AM

The notion that Santorum is a “big-government conservative” (which I think he is) can be debated… but I know I’m NOT voting for him, because I embrace the philosophy of “do what you want as long as no one else is harmed in the process” (and this is before I knew about John Stuart Mill, but once I read “On Liberty” I wholeheartedly agreed)… and Santorum has blatantly stated he is diametrically opposed to that belief.

You know, I just might choose Ron Paul in the Texas primary. And I’m saying this as one who is not a Branch Paulinian (as Andrew Wilkow likes to call the RP fanatics).

TMOverbeck on January 31, 2012 at 10:08 AM

Still waiting for Ed’s post on Romney’s dishonesty towards Newt.

pugwriter on January 31, 2012 at 10:08 AM

13 million+ in negative mostly dishonest ads bought in 2 weeks just in FL by RomneyCo. If you wondered what a billion dollar campaign looked like? … there you have it.

Logical response by thoughtful RomneyBots HA posters … Newt’s whining. You can’t make this stuff up.

This is a two man race … Ed’s delusion aside … you are for Newt or Mitt. If you are for Rick … you are for Mitt … If you are pulling for a mystery candidate … you are for Mitt.

You have one alternative … Newt. Stop kidding yourselves.

MarkCasper on January 31, 2012 at 10:09 AM

fight like a girl on January 31, 2012 at 10:07 AM

After Perry dropped out I switched to Newt…but Newt’s schtick has grown old.
I’ve had enough of it.
Go Santorum.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 31, 2012 at 10:09 AM

Look,I like Santorum. He is solid as a rock but he is not ready to win this at this point in his life. People who think it out know this. These are the cards now, Rick needs to fold or Romney takes the entire tournament down so he can lose to Obama.

magic kingdom on January 31, 2012 at 9:41 AM

Santorum was a great Senator, he is a solid conservative, and he certainly doesn’t have the marital baggage that people hold against Gingrich. But he tends to get caught up in “social issues” that are unpopular among Independent voters, and he could lose badly to Obama if nominated (as he lost re-election in PA by 16 points in 2006).

Santorum’s heart is certainly in the right place, taking time out from his campaign in Florida to care for his daughter. But will voters thank him for that?

Gingrich’s request for Santorum to drop out in Florida is clearly self-centered, since Florida’s delegates are “winner-take-all”, and Santorum has the same right to compete in Florida as Gingrich. But Florida, as a large “swing state”, could give all the candidates a good indication of who can beat Obama, and if Santorum finishes a distant third, he probably should drop out, without endorsing anyone.

Steve Z on January 31, 2012 at 10:10 AM

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