Rush to Newt: Stop whining about negative campaigning

posted at 1:55 pm on January 30, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Who’s up for another establishment RINO taking a whack at Newt Gingrich for his complaints over getting outboxed in Florida?  Click the image to watch:

I’m with Rush on this point, and I’ll offer another data point for his argument.  After the first debate in Florida, Newt Gingrich complained about NBC’s actions to minimize audience reaction and “served notice” that he would not allow that to happen again.  Of course, the general election debates don’t allow audience reaction either, which made Gingrich’s “great debater” argument somewhat suspect after offering that excuse — but what came next was a headscratcher.  After Mitt Romney outclassed Gingrich in the second Florida debate on Thursday and clearly had the crowd behind him, Gingrich’s team then griped that Romney had “stacked” the audience.

Gingrich isn’t mad that Romney and his allies are running attack ads where Gingrich and his allies aren’t; they’re mad that they have a lot more money to spend in doing so.  There isn’t anything wrong with negative campaigning per se anyway, as long as it’s honest, and in this campaign, the inaccuracies and cheap shots have gone in both directions.  As Rush says, if Newt’s whining about this, how can we expect him to handle what a billion-dollar campaign will lay out against him in the fall?

On Rush’s last point, though, I’ll disagree.  Romney has a streak of ruthlessness behind that cool exterior that has been on display now for weeks, and I’m sure came in handy in his private-equity career, too.  He’s a lot less likely to relax his bite on the jugular than John McCain was, who spent far too much time worrying how he would be perceived in the media for attacking Barack Obama.  Plus, Romney doesn’t have to delve into the subjects of 2008 to hit Obama hard; back then, Obama didn’t have any record at all to defend, which made most of the open attack lines personal.  After three years in office, Romney has a cornucopia of crony capitalism, Obamanomics, czars, Porkulus, and Fast and Furious attack lines to use.  Romney is likely to attack in less spectacular fashion than Gingrich, but that caution will keep  those attack lines from imploding like they have on occasion with Gingrich, too.  That doesn’t make Romney a great conservative candidate, but it does at least make him competitive.

Update: I had “crony capitalism” on the list twice.  Well, it is a great line of attack …

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Jumping on or off?

If it’s off, is he going to Santorum?

listens2glenn on January 30, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Neither, he was just giving him some friendly advice, which I personally would have thought more friendly if he had done it in private- LOL

Night Owl on January 30, 2012 at 2:30 PM

While conservatives may win small battles here and there, since FDR was elected, it’s been all liberalism since.

MadDogF on January 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM

But look at how successful we are when we are activist.

The Tea Party was completely unexpected. We took the left completely by surprise with it. Conservative activism has been so lacking.

blatantblue on January 30, 2012 at 2:30 PM

a capella ,
A fool never changes his mind . Heard it many years ago and use it frequently .

Lucano on January 30, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Believe it or not, executives CAN be held to the will of the base, and if we take both houses and the presidency, you sure as sh1t better believe it will happen.

blatantblue on January 30, 2012 at 2:23 PM

From your lips to God’s ears.

OhioCoastie on January 30, 2012 at 2:30 PM

Maybe I’m naive and optimistic, but we can do this.

…Only if we don’t relent.

blatantblue on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

de rigueur on January 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM

IMO, Romney is even less likely to take it to Obama than McCain was.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Newt would make a great Whiner in Chief.

HarryBackside on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Romney compensated heavily for his glass jaw, since we’re using boxing terms, Ed.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 2:13 PM

And Newt coundn’t compensate for his. If we have to have a candidate with a glass jaw I would rather have the one who can cover for it.

alchemist19 on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Axe on January 30, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Cheers!

———-
MM is the same as Glenn Beck, for Romney, pretending Santorum now…Fox dominates, and pays them all well.

Schadenfreude on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

a meta-whine…

de rigueur on January 30, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Need a lot of government cheese to go with that?….

kunegetikos on January 30, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Not if we can get enough of the green stuff from a private-enterprise moon base.

de rigueur on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Romney’s instrument of attack is the mainstream media. This resource will not be available to him in the general election.

Sekhmet on January 30, 2012 at 2:15 PM

This is factually incorrect. HOW did Romney use the MSM? Gingrich has been in bed with the MSM and Fox News as an analyst LONG before Romney started running ads. So if you were to say which person has MORE or has been in bed with the MSM it is Gingrich by a long shot!

g2825m on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Mitt is an eternal sniveller who looks like a perfect mortician.

Newt is a srappy whiner.

Schadenfreude on January 30, 2012 at 2:34 PM

g2825m on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Wow, facts are so indignant that they can’t take it.

Fox, with Hume leading, are so deep in Romney’s butt that they need oxygen provided.

Schadenfreude on January 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Ed, what on God’s Green Earth leads you to believe that Romney will actually fight to repeal — not replace or tinker with — Obamacare?

I agree with this in this sense. If Romney cannot get enough senators to agree with outright repeal he will attempt to get them to agree to tinkering with it. Thats what a shrewd businessman does

gerrym51 on January 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

The campaign trail, c. 1875:

“It is said, in some enlightened circles, that my opponent is the son of an unknown father and a mother of ill repute. I cannot confirm this — but judging by what I’ve seen of his character — I can believe it. He is a known consorter with vagrants and misanthropes, prone to all manner of vice — a tosser of dice and a betrayer of Eve’s virtue — Heaven above defend us. Someone hand that woman a glass of water. A known drunkard of a Sunday afternoon, he’s to Church only to cavort . . .

Axe on January 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM

That’s not b!tching or whining. That’s all out down and dirty negative campaigning, kicking butt. If his opponent complained in response, THAT would be whining. There’s no whining in politics.

Paul-Cincy on January 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM

de rigueur on January 30, 2012 at 2:26 PM

IMO, Romney is even less likely to take it to Obama than McCain was.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Also not true! Romney has been running ads and videos SMACKING Obama for about the past 6 months in States prior to Obama visits! Why do you think Obama is hitting back at Romney? Romney has been skewering him in ads and Romney will continue the attacks ALL YEAR!

This meme of Romney and a glass jaw is just false. If it were true why would THE SUPREME DEBATER Gingrich be whining as he is?

g2825m on January 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM

alchemist19 on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

He doesn’t have one, IMO, though he has other weaknesses. Romney won’t be able to compensate for his in the general, as the media won’t let him. If nothing else, Barry’s billion ensure that, not to mention the fact that the pro-Dem media are already in the tank for Barry.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Believe it or not, executives CAN be held to the will of the base, and if we take both houses and the presidency, you sure as sh1t better believe it will happen.

blatantblue on January 30, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Just what I look forward to 1460 day of fighting the Republican President and the progressive (R) in congress to keep them in check. If this is the case, then I propose the following. Get rid of all legislators and turn every vote over to pure votes from we the people.

astonerii on January 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Mitt is an eternal sniveller who looks like a perfect mortician.

I’m a Mitt fan=but I agree with the mortician part

LOL

gerrym51 on January 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Gingrich whines. Romney Whines.

Gingrich puts out misleading ads. Romney puts out misleading ads.

Gingrich panders to a particular demographic group. Romney panders to a particular demographic group.

I can’t believe that with the most important election in my lifetime approaching, these are the “important issues” that’s being disseminated and discussed ad nauseum by the old and new media.

“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.”

Apparently Mr. President, our definition of “freedom” no longer means what yours did.

Flora Duh on January 30, 2012 at 2:39 PM

g2825m on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Wow, facts are so indignant that they can’t take it.

Fox, with Hume leading, are so deep in Romney’s butt that they need oxygen provided.

Schadenfreude on January 30, 2012 at 2:35 PM

Romney cannot control WHO in the media backs him…but to say that Gingrich DOES NOT have MSM backing is just silly! How long has he been on with the MSM over the years…then again maybe they do NOT back him because, like Congress members, those that get to KNOW HIM realize the guy is just like the narcissist we currently have in office and cannot possibly help elect a guy who ALREADY THINKS he is as important as Lincoln, Jefferson, and Madison…if we would ONLY vote for him to figure this out!

g2825m on January 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

g2825m on January 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Sorry, but it is true, IMO. Romney started tearing up when Gingrich suggested he was anti-immigrant. IMO, Romney has never been in a real fight in his life.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Romney has a streak of ruthlessness behind that cool exterior that has been on display now for weeks, and I’m sure came in handy in his private-equity career, too. He’s a lot less likely to relax his bite on the jugular than John McCain was, who spent far too much time worrying how he would be perceived in the media for attacking Barack Obama. Plus, Romney doesn’t have to delve into the subjects of 2008 to hit Obama hard; back then, Obama didn’t have any record at all to defend, which made most of the open attack lines personal. After three years in office, Romney has a cornucopia of crony capitalism, Obamanomics, czars, Porkulus, and Fast and Furious attack lines to use. Romney is likely to attack in less spectacular fashion than Gingrich, but that caution will keep those attack lines from imploding like they have on occasion with Gingrich, too. That doesn’t make Romney a great conservative candidate, but it does at least make him competitive.

Once again Ed hits the nail right on the head. The BS argument that Newty is “the fighter” in the group and Romney isn’t doesn’t pass the laugh test. Especially since all this week the argument has been that Romney’s attacks have been “highly coordinated” and “really really mean, too!” lol That’s what it takes to deal with the tsunami of hate that will spew from the Left.

Romney knows what to do and he will do it.

cicerone on January 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

MaxMBJ on January 30, 2012 at 2:29 PM

I would agree with most of that. Based on track record and rep, we know he’s a superb planner and organizer. From Bain, we know he will make hard decisions which may appear ruthless. His problem, to this point, has been in communicating that willingness to personally back alley knife fight for the voters to see. I’m liking what I’m starting to see, in that regard.

a capella on January 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Just what I look forward to 1460 day of fighting the Republican President and the progressive (R) in congress to keep them in check. If this is the case, then I propose the following. Get rid of all legislators and turn every vote over to pure votes from we the people.

astonerii on January 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Liberals have been so successful precisely because they’ve never stopped.

Conservatives have historically been sh1tty political activists.

blatantblue on January 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

If this is the case, then I propose the following. Get rid of all legislators and turn every vote over to pure votes from we the people.

astonerii on January 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Yipes!! That’s a scary thought.

Populism carried to it’s logical extreme?

Please, I beg of you, read the Federalist papers.

RightWay79 on January 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

There’s no whining in politics.

Paul-Cincy on January 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Please. These guys would cry playing baseball. :)

Axe on January 30, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Sorry, but it is true, IMO. Romney started tearing up when Gingrich suggested he was anti-immigrant. IMO, Romney has never been in a real fight in his life.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Then how embarrassing for Newty to be getting his clock cleaned by Romney. If this is Romney’s first fight then he must be a natural at it. Next.

cicerone on January 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Considering Rush declared Romney was the only true conservative with “all 3 legs of dat dere stool” in 2008, not surprised at this.

hanzblinx on January 30, 2012 at 2:43 PM

You are a crazy person. And you wimped out of the other thread when I pointed out how wrong you were, too.

But mostly: you’re a crazy person. This sort of rhetoric proves it.

Esoteric on January 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM

It will be interesting to see what other fun and creative ways he comes up with to scream “Notice me! Notice me! NOTICE ME AND HOW IMPORTANT MY OPINION IS!” between now and November. Reading astonerii’s posts is like a training exercise for me for how to deal with my daughter when she gets to be a teenager.

alchemist19 on January 30, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Considering Rush declared Romney was the only true conservative with “all 3 legs of dat dere stool” in 2008, not surprised at this.

hanzblinx on January 30, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Romney was the anti-McCain…that’s all there is to it.

kakypat on January 30, 2012 at 2:46 PM

IMO, Romney is even less likely to take it to Obama than McCain was.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

I honestly don’t know. I see the barracuda in Romney– sorry, wrong choice of metaphor– I see the Upper Michigan Pike in Romney, but he was keeping it pretty cool earlier in the primaries. Would be a mistake to reset and start out that way again in the general. Unfortunately, it’s something that moderates and mavericks have been known to do before.

One of the reasons I’ve favored the “carry on the contest through the entire primary season” is so the survivor emerges bloodied, bruised, but mad as hell and ready to take it to Obama. End the contest now and I fear 7 months of desultory campaigning, conserving the campaign funds, while the media softens up the putative nominee and preps the battlefield. Big decision for Romney, if he truly has it all locked up after Tuesday, will be how much does he spend to get around the media for all that time.

Because the media will be playing up the low turn outs, pro forma campaign stops, rote speeches, and a depressed base that really didn’t get to weigh in on “their” nominee at all, in addition to all of the negative stories that begin against the lone candidate standing. And Romney, or whoever it is, will have to spend beaucoup bucks early and often to get around that and to keep from being defined by the opposition, and pulverized by the media, before he even makes it to Tampa.

This time it really is a campaign against the media– Obama’s creator and defender– as much as against Obama. Hope the GOP nominee realizes that.

de rigueur on January 30, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Rush barely mentioned Newt maybe once during his comments about bengative campaigning. I think Ed overblew this. Which is not surprising, as HotAir is in full-blown pro-Romney and anti-Newt mode.

DaydreamBeliever on January 30, 2012 at 2:47 PM

I know, I know: you want YOUR candidate to say “Obama is an evil socialist trying to communize this country and he’s a lying sack of crap too!” You want ANGER. You want FOAMING. You want brutality.

But angry people never win elections. The guy who uses the most heated, cutting rhetoric? That guy loses every single time, nationally. Seriously: there isn’t one example in the history of modern American politics saying otherwise. So Romney is being SMART and hitting Obama at his core weakness with most (i.e. non-conservative base) voters: “sure he’s a nice enough guy, but he’s a friggin’ incompetent liberal loser.”

I have to disagree, the way this country has been run the last 3 years makes my head want to explode. This president needs to hear this anger from whomever we nominate. If I see the McCain treatment of Obama again I’m going to get sick. Hit him hard on his record, Hit him often. I don’t believe his past or personal life are out of bounds. He’s governed as a socialist, he’s acted as a if he were a King, and he’s destroying the constitution. He needs beat with around the head and neck with his record like it was a baseball bat. We should hear Stimulus, Fast and Furious, Solyndra, recess appointments, ect…. Not Mitt and Newt crying like babies everytime one of them runs an add about the other one.

buckeyerich on January 30, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Romney was the anti-McCain…that’s all there is to it.

kakypat on January 30, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Just as Newt is now the anti-Romney – no credibility is all there is to it.

rhombus on January 30, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Rush Limbo is disgusting…

apocalypse on January 30, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Once again Ed hits the nail right on the head. The BS argument that Newty is “the fighter” in the group and Romney isn’t doesn’t pass the laugh test. Especially since all this week the argument has been that Romney’s attacks have been “highly coordinated” and “really really mean, too!” lol That’s what it takes to deal with the tsunami of hate that will spew from the Left.

Romney knows what to do and he will do it.

cicerone on January 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

You think so? I’ve been listening to TEH TRUE CONSERVATIVEZ!!111!!eleventy!!1! and they all think Mitt would subject himself to public scrutiny, spend months out on the road campaigning and invest millions of dollars of his own money just so he can not try very hard in the general.

alchemist19 on January 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM

But mostly: you’re a crazy person. This sort of rhetoric proves it.

Esoteric on January 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM

I support Mitt. I have to think some who think he won’t do what he says, conservative-wise, are delusional, or, blinded by their pro-Newt position, or even Obama plants.

I’ll grant Mitt isn’t a conservative at heart. At least, he doesn’t have the conservative understanding at his fingertips like Newt or so many here do. Mitt gets to conservative policies, but I can’t follow his steps for getting there. He’ll state some conservative position, but then not give even the most basic conservative reasons for having it. It strikes me as weird. Regardless, he’ll drag the country to the right, and replace Obama. I’m happy with that.

Paul-Cincy on January 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM

..man, with this and the Levin post and the internecine battles going on here at HG, we on the right are sure getting all twisted and contorted. I just hope this translates into a lean, mean fighting machine v. the left in the Fall.

The War Planner on January 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM

THE MEDIA!!!!!! you can’t be too stupid and have a job in the media. And you can’t be too stupid to be a Republican. They should be friends not enemies.

tommyhawk on January 30, 2012 at 2:51 PM

Romney has not spent 6 years of his life to not win in November. With all his material advantages and the life it would provide, he wouldn’t be exhausting himself and wasting his time in Holiday Inns night after night if he wasn’t determined to win and become the 45th POTUS.

matthew8787 on January 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM

But mostly: you’re a crazy person. This sort of rhetoric proves it.

Esoteric on January 30, 2012 at 2:27 PM

It’s the vitriol of the anti-Mitters that turns me off. Why take any such person seriously. My take away from them is not their argument, which frequently they don’t even have, but their unhingedness. You not only write them off, it also makes you question the whole anti-Mitt group.

Paul-Cincy on January 30, 2012 at 2:53 PM

First candidate to whine in the Presidential election loses.

albill on January 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

g2825m on January 30, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Sorry, but it is true, IMO. Romney started tearing up when Gingrich suggested he was anti-immigrant. IMO, Romney has never been in a real fight in his life.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Christien,
You do not think being an Executive running over billions of dollars in assets does not take an attitude of a fighter? Fighting to keep businesses afloat where he was greatly more successful than not. How about his election versus Ted Kennedy where that was definitely a trial period for him in learning how to fight “politically” and he lost learning valuable lessons. Romney also learned (as I was in SLC at this time) to have to handle over 100 various Foreign Gov’t entities during the 2002 Olympics and what they wanted for their “NEEDS” and actually what was going to happen on the ground. This experience also over a 3 yr period gave him much add’l foreign policy and leadership experience in how to work with a 100+ foreign govt’s which he rarely gets credit for from the blogosphere. Romney also has had to personally FIGHT alongside with his wife while she battles MS and breast cancer. There are more instances where Romney has shown a fighting instinct and we’ll see against Obama should he be the nominee…he actually has already been doing it if you view his website and see the plethora of attack ads against thin-skinned Obama.

g2825m on January 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

IMO, Romney is even less likely to take it to Obama than McCain was.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

I honestly don’t know. I see the barracuda in Romney– sorry, wrong choice of metaphor– I see the Upper Michigan Pike in Romney, but he was keeping it pretty cool earlier in the primaries. Would be a mistake to reset and start out that way again in the general. Unfortunately, it’s something that moderates and mavericks have been known to do before.

One of the reasons I’ve favored the “carry on the contest through the entire primary season” is so the survivor emerges bloodied, bruised, but mad as hell and ready to take it to Obama. End the contest now and I fear 7 months of desultory campaigning, conserving the campaign funds, while the media softens up the putative nominee and preps the battlefield. Big decision for Romney, if he truly has it all locked up after Tuesday, will be how much does he spend to get around the media for all that time.

Because the media will be playing up the low turn outs, pro forma campaign stops, rote speeches, and a depressed base that really didn’t get to weigh in on “their” nominee at all, in addition to all of the negative stories that begin against the lone candidate standing. And Romney, or whoever it is, will have to spend beaucoup bucks early and often to get around that and to keep from being defined by the opposition, and pulverized by the media, before he even makes it to Tampa.

This time it really is a campaign against the media– Obama’s creator and defender– as much as against Obama. Hope the GOP nominee realizes that.

de rigueur on January 30, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Good post. Something to think about going forward…

g2825m on January 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM

I’ll grant Mitt isn’t a conservative at heart. At least, he doesn’t have the conservative understanding at his fingertips like Newt or so many here do. Mitt gets to conservative policies, but I can’t follow his steps for getting there. He’ll state some conservative position, but then not give even the most basic conservative reasons for having it. It strikes me as weird. Regardless, he’ll drag the country to the right, and replace Obama. I’m happy with that.

Paul-Cincy on January 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM

That’s a very fair analysis. But doesn’t the first sentence somewhat contradict the penultimate? How is he going to drag the country to the right if his heart really isn’t in it? He may or may not fight, he may or may not go right. Those are the concerns, and they’re real.

de rigueur on January 30, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Gingrich is a whiner, and if by some horrible accident, he becomes the GOP nomination, he will be whining 24/7 as every dirty, stinking skeleton is pulled from his closet and paraded through the streets.

Pork-Chop on January 30, 2012 at 3:03 PM

I’m glad Romney’s ruthless–he’ll have to be to win in the fall. But what’s interesting is how he can skewer the other guy and still retain his mild demeanor. He’s tougher than he looks. And he’s tied or edging out Obama in swing state polls. It’s all good for us.

writeblock on January 30, 2012 at 3:04 PM

I think Rush is conducting a clandestine operation on behalf of the power elite. Rush pretends he is against Romney at the same time he justifies establishment Republicans who are for Romney… it is a master manipluation move. People are absolutely furious that a moderate liberal phony like Romney is being forced on them by those who do not share their same values. Rush is the front man for the elite and his job is to keep the natives calm and believing that he is still on their side all the while carrying out the clandestine operation for the puppet masters. That is why Rush said Romney was the strongest conservative and embodied all three legs of the conservative stool and endorsd him in 2008, but in 2011 (a mere 3 years later) Rush said Romney is NOT a conservative. If you are having a diffucult time understanding Limbo’s “supposed” view it’s because both him and the elites are backing Romney… and they don’t want you to know about it. This guy Rush Limbo is vermon. He’s just a filthy rat devilish piece of garbage.

apocalypse on January 30, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Do any of you Romney fans TRULY believe that the author of Romneycare is going to work to repeal Obamacare? I don’t believe it for a second. Newt has his flaws but Romney is Obamalight.

Samantha on January 30, 2012 at 3:04 PM

On Rush’s last point, though, I’ll disagree. Romney has a streak of ruthlessness behind that cool exterior that has been on display now for weeks, and I’m sure came in handy in his private-equity career, too. He’s a lot less likely to relax his bite on the jugular than John McCain was, who spent far too much time worrying how he would be perceived in the media for attacking Barack Obama. Plus, Romney doesn’t have to delve into the subjects of 2008 to hit Obama hard; back then, Obama didn’t have any record at all to defend, which made most of the open attack lines personal. After three years in office, Romney has a cornucopia of crony capitalism, Obamanomics, czars, Porkulus, and Fast and Furious attack lines to use. Romney is likely to attack in less spectacular fashion than Gingrich, but that caution will keep those attack lines from imploding like they have on occasion with Gingrich, too. That doesn’t make Romney a great conservative candidate, but it does at least make him competitive.

Sorry Ed, I’m with Rush on this… Romney will be same go along to get along squish candidate in fear of alienating the all important “independents”. Besides, what does Romney have to contrast and attack Obama with anyway b/c they’re so similar?

davek70 on January 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM

I don’t believe it for a second. Newt has his flaws but Romney is Obamalight.

Samantha on January 30, 2012 at 3:04 PM

The president doesn’t begin the process. The house and senate do. Are you saying that when the house and senate give Romney a bill repealing Obamacare that he wont sign it?

Be very careful because your response will be a clear indication of your bias.

csdeven on January 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM

I think it is unlikely that Romney will have fought and planned and spent to get this far if he were planning to roll over for Obama in the general. Some thought processes here are convoluted! I think he is a cool, calculated mover and will continue to take it to Obama as he already has been doing in the swing states!

AnnaS on January 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Sorry Ed, I’m with Rush on this… Romney will be same go along to get along squish candidate in fear of alienating the all important “independents”. Besides, what does Romney have to contrast and attack Obama with anyway b/c they’re so similar?

davek70 on January 30, 2012 at 3:08 PM

If Romney is so similar to Obama then why is Mitt bothering to run for president at all? Seems like a big waste of time and money if your plan is to just do what the other guy is already doing.

alchemist19 on January 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

g2825m on January 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Shouldn’t you be sleeping./ Seriously though if you’re going to be over there for a while longer. Put together a list of needs, be glad to send out some stuff. If in fact you are where I think you are.

Bmore on January 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

As I said remember in 2008, only 3 years ago, Rush and the rest of “so-called” conservative talk radio BACKED Romney. They all endorsed him. Now they are against Romney? That is absurd to the highest degree! Romney has not changed his political views since 2008. No friends… Rush and Hannity and FOX news they know EXACTLY what they are doing and it’s evil.

apocalypse on January 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

As I said remember in 2008, only 3 years ago, Rush and the rest of “so-called” conservative talk radio BACKED Romney. They all endorsed him. Now they are against Romney? That is absurd to the highest degree! Romney has not changed his political views since 2008. No friends… Rush and Hannity and FOX news they know EXACTLY what they are doing and it’s evil.

apocalypse on January 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Mitt hasn’t changed but four years ago there was no big, powerful, evil man-behind-the-curtain “Republican establishment” who somehow manage to impose their will on the voters. That’s the big difference, really.

alchemist19 on January 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM

It’s amazing how viciously attacking a fellow Republican doesn’t turn off idies/moderates. But saying even the slightest negative thing about Obama makes independents break down and cry.

angryed on January 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Believe it or not, executives CAN be held to the will of the base, and if we take both houses and the presidency, you sure as sh1t better believe it will happen.

blatantblue on January 30, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Come on man, the RNC acts like 2010 never happened. You think Romney will be forced to go right when Boehner moved left?

angryed on January 30, 2012 at 3:14 PM

cicerone on January 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM

Fail. I specifically said a real fight, not a debate. Romney has a glass jaw, and it’s sad and painfully revealing.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 3:15 PM

As I said remember in 2008, only 3 years ago, Rush and the rest of “so-called” conservative talk radio BACKED Romney. They all endorsed him. Now they are against Romney? That is absurd to the highest degree!
apocalypse on January 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

They backed him because they knew the disaster McCain was. And they were right. McCain was a shit sandwich. Romney is a shit sandwich with lettuce and tomato.

angryed on January 30, 2012 at 3:16 PM

de rigueur on January 30, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Sorry, but Romney doesn’t have that kind of money at his disposal. The media are true believers. Sure, they’ll run his ads next to the soap commericals, but when they return from break, it’ll be all Obama, all the time. You make good points about a prolonged primary.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 3:19 PM

McCain was a shit sandwich. Romney is a shit sandwich with lettuce and tomato.

angryed on January 30, 2012 at 3:16 PM

Make a salad with croutons and pass the rest to Obama.

profitsbeard on January 30, 2012 at 3:22 PM

g2825m on January 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

No, I don’t think he’s ever been in a real fight in his life. His wife, yes. It’s odd that he said he’s never faced hardship.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 3:24 PM

Enjoy.

Schadenfreude on January 30, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Judging by the man-boobs, the “all-diet”/no exercise thing isn’t working out.

Geez Rush, we love you. Run, jog, walk do something!

We don’t want to lose you this early, as flawed as you might be, you are truly an irreplaceable hoot.

NoDonkey on January 30, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Newt was on Fox yesterday with Chris Wallace. Newt was stating that Mitt was being dishonest when he talked about Newt calling Spanish the language of the ghetto. Wallace then showed the tape. Newt does not use the word Spanish, but was talking about the superiority of immersion to bilingual education. Newt also issued an apology for his statements in Spanish after he made them.

So Newt’s complaint is that Mitt is being dishonest when he says Newt was referring to Spanish and Newt is being honest when he ways he didn’t mean Spanish at all.

Well, watching the clip, it’s very obvious Newt was talking about Spanish and Newt is the one being dishonest now. But I’m sure Newt’s supporters will continue their mental gymnastics of maintaining Newt is our only hope to defeat Obama (despite showing the worst of the 4 remaining candidates against Obama in recent polls), viewing Newt as a Washington outsider (even though he’s lived their for 30 years, earning most of his living peddling his influence there), viewing Newt as a principled conservative, (despite his positions on global warming, the health care mandate, NY’s District 23 house election, his flamboyant pork promises from the stump), and maintaining Newt’s innate honesty despite clear lies such as this, and his one ethics charge which stood-lying to the ethics committee.

talkingpoints on January 30, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Why Rush Limbo Supports Mitt Romney And Won’t Tell You

If you wanna chase this rabbit down the hole and find out what’s REALLY going on behind the scenes then do a little reading about how Romney’s Bain Capital owns one of the largest media groups in the United States, Clear Channel Communications, Inc., which broadcasts Limbaugh, Hannity, Fox new radio and others. Then read this and my other post here.

apocalypse on January 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

If this is Romney’s first fight then he must be a natural at it. Next.

cicerone on January 30, 2012 at 2:42 PM

It is baffling that these Romney haters refuse to accept the challenges that Romney has overcome in his life do in fact qualify him as a fighter. Serving a mission for two years requires strength and commitment. He was almost killed in an automobile accident. He graduated from BYU and has two advanced degrees from Harvard. He succeeded at Bain and the Olympics. He also successfully passed conservative legislation and signed 800 vetoes against a huge dem legislature.

They cannot give him one single shred of credit.

csdeven on January 30, 2012 at 3:30 PM

g2825m on January 30, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Looks like you might actually be getting some shut eye. Any way I’ll whisper. Let me know, be glad to send. If you have need for anything.
Your disagreeable friend.

Bmore on January 30, 2012 at 3:31 PM

well, the so-called “sh!t sandwich,” as you call him, has one Hell of a lot of money to win the presidency. It’s a bit more than “lettuce and tomato.”

As it is famously said, money is the mother’s milk of politics. Romney can match Obama dollar-for-dollar, he has an incredible organization and infrastucture throughout the nation, a disciplined team, a strong message, and a lot of cross-over appeal to seniors, independents, moderates, and soccer Moms, all of whom decide presidential elections.

Small wonder that the RATS are terrified of him.

matthew8787 on January 30, 2012 at 3:32 PM

apocalypse on January 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Sure, Rush is a closet Romney supporter – for the money.

Because willing $50 million to his cat and $250 million to his wife isn’t nearly enough.

NoDonkey on January 30, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Fail. I specifically said a real fight, not a debate. Romney has a glass jaw, and it’s sad and painfully revealing.

Christien on January 30, 2012 at 3:15 PM

So now the anti-romneys are talking about physical fights?

kage on January 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM

They are the perpetual victims among us.

rhombus on January 30, 2012 at 2:29 PM

Hence the people St Palin the Victimized reaches out to. She creates an image of herself as a victim and a certain segment of the electorate flocks to her.

csdeven on January 30, 2012 at 3:33 PM

csdeven on January 30, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Yeah, but he’s had only one wife.

What’s cool about that?

Man’s not a man ’til he tosses his wife in the dumpster and takes up with a chippy or two.

NoDonkey on January 30, 2012 at 3:34 PM

As I said remember in 2008, only 3 years ago, Rush and the rest of “so-called” conservative talk radio BACKED Romney. They all endorsed him. Now they are against Romney? That is absurd to the highest degree! Romney has not changed his political views since 2008. No friends… Rush and Hannity and FOX news they know EXACTLY what they are doing and it’s evil.

apocalypse on January 30, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Mitt hasn’t changed but four years ago there was no big, powerful, evil man-behind-the-curtain “Republican establishment” who somehow manage to impose their will on the voters. That’s the big difference, really.

alchemist19 on January 30, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Alchemist19, the Republican establishment were there in 2008… they took Huckabee out. What happend in 2008 was they pushed for Romney and ended up with McCain. The difference in 2011 is that the power elite have to be bolder because their opposition in greater with the Tea Party people and so many other disgruntled Americans…

apocalypse on January 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Why Rush Limbo Supports Mitt Romney And Won’t Tell You

If you wanna chase this rabbit down the hole and find out what’s REALLY going on behind the scenes then do a little reading about how Romney’s Bain Capital owns one of the largest media groups in the United States, Clear Channel Communications, Inc., which broadcasts Limbaugh, Hannity, Fox new radio and others. Then read this and my other post here.

apocalypse on January 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Disclosure statement: I loathe Romney and do not support him. BUT, Romney is no longer part of Bain capital, and Bain capital gave money to the Obama campaign in 2008. Besides, no one is showing bias. Rush just doesn’t want to see the republican party eat themselves. Sarah Palin is saying the same thing, along with a lot of people here.

O/T, but I hope it shows up here. Speaking of Hannity and big buts, I just heard that a UK newspaper is reporting that Michelle Obama dropped $50k on lingerie. After puking for the last half hour with the visuals banging around in my head, burp, I figured out why it was so expensive. It takes a lot of fabric to cover that rump shaker.

CherryBombsBigBrownBeaver on January 30, 2012 at 3:37 PM

As it is famously said, money is the mother’s milk of politics. Romney can match Obama dollar-for-dollar, he has an incredible organization and infrastucture throughout the nation, a disciplined team, a strong message, and a lot of cross-over appeal to seniors, independents, moderates, and soccer Moms, all of whom decide presidential elections.

Small wonder that the RATS are terrified of him.

matthew8787 on January 30, 2012 at 3:32 PM

I guess nobody gave the word out in MI or FL or Nationally to your way of thinking.

MI: Obama +8
FL: Obama +8
National: Obama +6 (Ras and WSJ polls)

He’s losing before the race even started.

And look at what’s happening down ticket in FL:

Florida Senate – Mack vs. Nelson Suffolk/7News Nelson 42, Mack 32 Nelson +10

And in WI:

Minnesota Senate – Severson vs. Klobuchar PPP (D) Klobuchar 55, Severson 32 Klobuchar +23

2012 is looking like 2008 all over again.

angryed on January 30, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Romney has declared conservatives the enemy, he has waged what I consider illegal war against us, he thus does not merit the special priviledges that those who engage in lawful warfare deserve.

astonerii on January 30, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Notice the replacement of the word “conservatives” for “Newt”, as if FREDDIE MAC MOONDADDY GINGRICH is the guy that represents all conservatives?

Nice try, most commenting on this blog aren’t as stupid as Sarah Palin.

Running negative ads against FREDDIE MAC MOONDADDY GINGRICH =/= declaring conservatives the enemy.

Swerve22 on January 30, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Rush Limbaugh has always been a RINO. Surprised folks are just now catching on.

-Serial marriages
-Drug addict (Clean, FOR NOW)
-Member of the 1%
-Conveniently waited until the end of Reagan’s second term to take to the airwaves. (Didn’t want to be “found out).
-Lives in Palm Beach, a RINO compound
-Plays golf

I mean, need I say more? If Rush had had to walk the red dirt roads of rural Georgia several miles a day to get an education like Newt, or hadn’t been handed wealth, unlike Newt, who had to teach history classes part-time to Freddie and Fannie for a mere $1.6 million just to put bread and beans on the table, then Rush wouldn’t be so unkind in his criticism of Newt.

Meeting of Whiners Anonymous:
“I’m Newt and I’ve been unkindly mistreated.”
“Hi, Newt!”

Dinosaurs in Space 2012! Go, Newt, Go!

Horace on January 30, 2012 at 3:42 PM

Michelle Obama dropped $50k on lingerie

Mmmm, imagine that sashaying up to you wearing nothing more than a baby doll neglige and a smile.

CorporatePiggy on January 30, 2012 at 3:43 PM

If Romney gets the nod and goes after Barack as ruthlessly as he has conservatives, I’ll eat my shorts.

SouthernGent on January 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Rush is wrong.

I am unsure about Levin’s motives. He might not be savvy enough to notice what is going on.

As to Rush I feel he is trying to influence the outcome of the
Florida election. He can’t come right out and say he is for
Romney; he will lose a good deal of his base of conservative
listeners. So he goes about it in a roundabout way.

Newt is not whining. He is stating what those of us who are
paying attention have heard, read and seen.

Amjean on January 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Alchemist19, the Republican establishment were there in 2008… they took Huckabee out. What happend in 2008 was they pushed for Romney and ended up with McCain. The difference in 2011 is that the power elite have to be bolder because their opposition in greater with the Tea Party people and so many other disgruntled Americans…

apocalypse on January 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

If in 2008 the Republican establishment, whoever they are, saved us from nominating a devoutly religious Democrat then we owe them a debt of gratitude.

alchemist19 on January 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Yeah, but he’s had only one wife.

What’s cool about that?

Man’s not a man ’til he tosses his wife in the dumpster and takes up with a chippy or two.

NoDonkey on January 30, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Hmmmmm…that is true…..Maybe he could lie to congress and receive a $300K monetary chastening to make him as cool as Captain Neutron Newt?

csdeven on January 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM

It is baffling that these Romney haters refuse to accept the challenges that Romney has overcome in his life do in fact qualify him as a fighter. Serving a mission for two years requires strength and commitment. He was almost killed in an automobile accident. He graduated from BYU and has two advanced degrees from Harvard. He succeeded at Bain and the Olympics. He also successfully passed conservative legislation and signed 800 vetoes against a huge dem legislature.

They cannot give him one single shred of credit.

csdeven on January 30, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Seriously? He survived a car crash. WOW. He graduated from BYU, LOL. Is that supposed to be imprssive? He served as a missionary in France for 2 whole years. My goodness, why that’s worse than being a POW in Vietnam.

angryed on January 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM

If Romney gets the nod and goes after Barack as ruthlessly as he has conservatives, I’ll eat my shorts.

SouthernGent on January 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Can I hold you to this?

alchemist19 on January 30, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Schandenfreude ,
Thanks for the link . Been trying to get folks fired up about this all day !
Email this guy , call his office . Speaker Deaignate Weatherford R FL .

Lucano on January 30, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Clear Channel Communications, Inc., which broadcasts Limbaugh, Hannity, Fox new radio and others. Then read this and my other post here.

apocalypse on January 30, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Also Levin who’s been criticizing Romney for about two weeks now.

gh on January 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Postscript -

Notice the criticism of Gingrich from Rush comes out the day
prior to the Florida primary.

Notice the criticism of Levin towards those of us who caught on
to what Drudge was doing also comes out a day prior to the Florida
primary.

No coincidence.

Amjean on January 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Silence from the Mittbots on the polls all showing Romney down 6% nationally and close to 10% in swing states like MI and FL.

angryed on January 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM

“Romney made money in investments and venture capitalism. Romney dissolved companies that weren’t making money. Romney makes money from interest on money. Romney lives in a big house.”

Exactly the horrors the great Marx and Engels predicted!

This will all end after we liquidate the kulaks, Comrades! To the Finland Station! Lenin is in Petrograd!

Horace on January 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM

If Romney gets the nod and goes after Barack as ruthlessly as he has conservatives, I’ll eat my shorts.

SouthernGent on January 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM

If Willard attacks Obama with 10% of the venom he used against Newt, I’ll eat your shorts.

angryed on January 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

I guess nobody gave the word out in MI or FL or Nationally to your way of thinking.

MI: Obama +8
FL: Obama +8
National: Obama +6 (Ras and WSJ polls)

He’s losing before the race even started.

2012 is looking like 2008 all over again.

Ya nice poll. I can find others, like on Drudge, that show Romney +1 in swing states. Whats your point?

kage on January 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

I am unsure about Levin’s motives. He might not be savvy enough to notice what is going on.
Amjean on January 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM

Levin’s just released a new book and he’s been lambasting Romney every night.

I bought the book (Ameritopia) yesterday. Skip chapter one but two and three are right on (all I’ve read so far).

gh on January 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

I’ll grant Mitt isn’t a conservative at heart. At least, he doesn’t have the conservative understanding at his fingertips like Newt or so many here do. Mitt gets to conservative policies, but I can’t follow his steps for getting there. He’ll state some conservative position, but then not give even the most basic conservative reasons for having it. It strikes me as weird. Regardless, he’ll drag the country to the right, and replace Obama. I’m happy with that.

Paul-Cincy on January 30, 2012 at 2:50 PM

It doesn’t strike me as weird at all. He’s basically a businessman, so he’s oriented toward pragmatism without an ideological overview of how the dots are connected. As a kid I remember spouting an appreciation for a conservative book I read and some older guy, a liberal, jumped all over me. I didn’t understand what the heck he was talking about or why he was so upset. I just liked a book I read. It was just another book among many. I didn’t see how it fit into a bigger picture.

writeblock on January 30, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Exactly the horrors the great Marx and Engels predicted!

This will all end after we liquidate the kulaks, Comrades! To the Finland Station! Lenin is in Petrograd!

Horace on January 30, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Laugh all you want but the general electorate is not going to elect someone worth $300M who loves to fire people, in 2012.

angryed on January 30, 2012 at 3:49 PM

If Willard attacks Obama with 10% of the venom he used against Newt, I’ll eat your shorts.

angryed on January 30, 2012 at 3:48 PM

This is gonna be Youtube gold!

alchemist19 on January 30, 2012 at 3:50 PM

angryed on January 30, 2012 at 3:44 PM

I heard Newt once survived the DC metro.

The green line!

Real man’s man.

NoDonkey on January 30, 2012 at 3:51 PM

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