Ingraham: Maybe the Tea Party isn’t as strong as the media thinks
posted at 3:40 pm on January 30, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
Does the slate of surviving Republican presidential choices in this primary mean that the Tea Party’s strength has been overrated — or just directed elsewhere? The Daily Caller has a clip from a fascinating discussion between Laura Ingraham and George Will from ABC’s This Week: Green Room over what a Mitt Romney nomination would mean:
“They don’t have the power that they thought they had, perhaps,” Ingraham said. “I mean, Romney is not a tea party candidate, and they’re talking about 27 percent of the Republican Party that still believe it’s tea party infused. The tea party, they have a lot of energy but you know … more of a moderate view of conservatism seems to get nominated every time. And that’s just a fact. The tea party doesn’t have the great strength that the old media believe.”
Washington Post columnist George Will didn’t completely agree that the tea party has lost it’s strength. He suggested that Romney pick a tea party running mate, and said the grassroots should focus on winning in the Senate until they have stronger national candidates.
“It’s too soon to say that,” Will said. “If the tea party withdraws its enthusiasm and says we’re going to concentrate on carrying the Senate and fight again when our bench is stronger in 2016 … I think [Romney’s] going to want a running mate who can connect with the people he can’t, and that is the Republican base.”
I wrote about this less than two weeks ago, although it seems like an age now. In my column for The Week, I pointed out that lasting grassroots movements take years to work their way into the leadership of major parties and produce credible candidates for high office. I’d call the 2010 midterms a big success and a huge head start, but it’s far too early to have a ready-made Tea Party candidate that can win election at this juncture. Look for 2016 or 2020, depending on the outcome of this election, for that kind of impact.
In that sense, I agree with both Ingraham and Will. I disagree with Will on his prescription for Tea Party support and for running-mate strategy:
“In 2010, the Republican Party got 63 percent of the votes of whites without college educations,” Will continued. “That is the Republican base and that is exactly the base he can’t connect with. This is the case for Chris Christie.”
Will isn’t alone in making this suggestion, either:
If Mitt Romney is the Republican nominee, my model estimates that he is 25 percent likely to pick Chris Christie as his running mate, a popular moderate governor from New Jersey who himself flirted with running for president before strongly endorsing Romney. (This in spite of the fact that you’d have two Northeasterners on the ticket.) The market puts Christie’s overall chance of being the VP of any Republican nominee at only 14 percent, but because his odds tend to rise in tandem with Romney’s, my model boosts his chances to 25 percent in the scenario where Romney is the nominee. Rubio is a close second to be Romney’s right-hand man at 22 percent. Rubio’s VP odds actually drop whenever Romney’s go up (they are anti-correlated), but because Rubio’s such a likely overall pick, he’s still the second-most likely Romney pairing. Rubio so far hasn’t endorsed a presidential candidate and has repeatedly said he’s not interested in the VP job. No other candidate rises above single digits as Mitt’s pick for a-heartbeat-away.
If Gingrich wins the Republican primary, he’s most likely, at 30 percent, to pair up with Rubio. Christie virtually falls out of the running for VP at below 5 percent if Gingrich emerges the primary winner. Over the past 90 days, when Gingrich rose in the presidential market, Rubio tended to rise too and Christie tended to fall in the vice presidential market.
Tea Party adherents may admire Christie’s passion and bluntness, but they’re not going to like some of his political positions. Christie didn’t win statewide in New Jersey by being a rock-ribbed conservative. He’s as conservative as one is likely to find in that position in New Jersey, but he’s hardly the kind of laissez-faire moderately-libertarian activist that populates the Tea Party. That doesn’t mean Christie doesn’t have a future in the GOP either, but pairing Romney with another Northeastern Republican, even one as pugnacious as Christie, is not a recipe for exciting the base.
If Romney wins, I’d look for a call to Marco Rubio (although I think it would be a mistake for Rubio to agree), or perhaps Susannah Martinez in New Mexico, who has been governor for about the same amount of time Rubio has been Senator. I think it’s more likely to be Bobby Jindal, though, who has a record of reform and a solid base of support from conservatives, plus is a current Southern governor on his second term. It’s a stronger position for a ticket that would put itself as an outsider pairing coming to take on Washington DC and the corruption of crony capitalism.
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OT – Lerner is back in the hot seat.
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Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:03 PM
Good thing Christie doesn’t have to leap or …
/snark
VibrioCocci on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM
I hope that Christie trips, falls on his back, flailing his little arms and legs can’t turn over to get up and bakes to a huge ash heap in the sun. As for his dem challenger … I hope she’s under him when he falls.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM
I hope Christie wins reelection as governor.
And stays in New Jersey.
MikeknaJ on May 22, 2013 at 4:07 PM
He’ll eat her alive. (oops–I mean, he’s sure to win handily..)
SailorMark on May 22, 2013 at 4:10 PM
Tough choice for New Jerseytonianites, elect the communist or elect the unknown Buono.
Bishop on May 22, 2013 at 4:10 PM
The bigger they are, the harder they fall…
Rational Thought on May 22, 2013 at 4:12 PM
Yes, and … well … I might add … uh, um …
Yeah, I got nothing- you about summed it up.
M240H on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM
Is she Injun?
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM
So, New jersey, ya got Bouno running as a Dem, got Christie running as a Dem-Lite…who ya gonna put out there as a Conservative?
coldwarrior on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM
I could care less if Christie loses as a matter of fact I hope he does. He is far more damaging to Conservatives as a Republican foil than as a one-term non-sitting governor.
Conan on May 22, 2013 at 4:15 PM
I remember once thinking Christie was on my side politically.
DanMan on May 22, 2013 at 4:17 PM
The only one who could have defeated Christie was Cory Booker, now Christie will have a cake walk.
tbrickert on May 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM
You might be able to name five people in Congress who are.
beatcanvas on May 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM
If only they could both lose.
Doomberg on May 22, 2013 at 4:21 PM
She needs to do something to offset the Governor’s
Truck Tire around his Gut….
..maybe a tattoo on her Azz cheek….
ToddPA on May 22, 2013 at 4:23 PM
Soaring property taxes? Christie’s being attacked from the right. By a Democrat. Guess I’m not really surprised.
Fenris on May 22, 2013 at 4:28 PM
She looks like she could be Nancy Pelosi’s sister –
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/02/04/eye-on-politics-why-does-barbara-buono-want-to-be-n-j-governor/
rickv404 on May 22, 2013 at 4:30 PM
It’s not for nothing that they call it ‘morbid’ obesity. Probably her best chance of winning and it’s literally not a bad chance.
Fenris on May 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Do you want to bet that she can out Democrat Christie !
savage24 on May 22, 2013 at 4:31 PM
If Buono looks like she has any chance, I’ll contribute to her campaign. The only “Reoublicans” I hate more than the Fat Man are Rubio, McCain, Miss Lucy and Flake.
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:33 PM
She looks like a younger Nancy Pelosi.
BacaDog on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM
Was “cake walk” an intended pun?
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM
A younger cross-eyed version of Pelosi…
PatriotRider on May 22, 2013 at 4:37 PM
I hope Issa has the Sgt. at Arms ready to lock Lerner up at the next hearing…
PatriotRider on May 22, 2013 at 4:39 PM
OT:
KMOV fires Larry Conners for facebook post.
He left the reservation and now he is getting burned.
tom daschle concerned on May 22, 2013 at 4:40 PM
Racist! Made me LMAO!
kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 4:41 PM
Good,let the dems spend their money on a race they can’t win…
right2bright on May 22, 2013 at 4:44 PM
On the surface, Buono looks like a much more appealing option than Christie – seriously, how can anyone bring themselves to vote for Christie again?
Pork-Chop on May 22, 2013 at 4:46 PM
Fat chance.
James on May 22, 2013 at 4:49 PM
Stapuff Marshmellow Man the gun grabbing scheistkoff.
Yea, OrderedPair that’s a great conclusion. (@ 4:06PM)
If he falls over he can’t be used by the Manure Spreading Media and shilled to the R’s as a viable canidate for POTUS in 2016.
Gawd help us if he becomes a distraction/diversion in the primaries.
Missilengr on May 22, 2013 at 4:55 PM
On the other hand, she does have the benefit of being a Democrat.
No small thing in New Jersey.
There Goes the Neighborhood on May 22, 2013 at 5:00 PM
Is she Injun?
Schadenfreude on May 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM
only if it helps her.
aceinstall on May 22, 2013 at 5:20 PM
The only one who could have defeated Christie was Cory Booker, now Christie will have a cake walk.
tbrickert on May 22, 2013 at 4:20 PM
Was “cake walk” an intended pun?
bw222 on May 22, 2013 at 4:35 PM
he doesnt look like he lets cake walk past
aceinstall on May 22, 2013 at 5:22 PM
100% yes.
talking_mouse on May 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM
Exit question: What would be the harm if she won?
faraway on May 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM
What difference, at this point, does it make anyway?
kirkill on May 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM
run a 3rd party, split the vote, can them both.
dmacleo on May 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM
Christie will eat her for lunch (both literally and figuratively). ;-)
tommy71 on May 22, 2013 at 5:59 PM
That race, current polls notwithstanding, will be decided by five points or less. And likely in favor of Bouno
SAMinVA on May 22, 2013 at 6:33 PM
She looks to much like Lois Lerner for low information voters to tell the difference.
meci on May 22, 2013 at 6:51 PM
I can’t believe I’m going to stick up for christie but he’s taken on the unions and for that he has my gratitude.
As for his stance on gun control, the muslim outreach situation, the higher property taxes (which is a total joke because the tax is proportional to the price of the house so that means prices of homes in NJ are high meaning people want to live there – supply/demand/bernanke pumping up miney supply and driving down interest rates for flippers to come and sell old homes for higher prices BLAME THE REALTORS not christie), his other soft marginal republican attributes which I wish someone would list but most importantly, he needs to be in there for the 2020 census to redistrict and make more red districts (if possible). Does Jersey have term limits? If so then he’s out before 202o anyways but if not, keep him in just for redistricting alone.
athenadelphi on May 22, 2013 at 7:05 PM
I’m not particularly interested in Chris Christie’s political fortunes at this point. He’ll get no support from me. Maybe Barry will throw him an endorsement.
Kensington on May 22, 2013 at 7:09 PM
Maybe I’ll give her a nice obama embrace in the form of a campaign contribution.
voiceofreason on May 22, 2013 at 7:55 PM
Is she claiming she’s pro-life? Give every child a chance at life (the same chance she got)?
Bet no one in Joisey notices the dichotomy.
Squiggy on May 22, 2013 at 8:08 PM
She’s probably more Conservative than the Fatboi.
HondaV65 on May 22, 2013 at 8:14 PM
I’m not particularly interested in Chris Christie. Maybe Barry BAMSTAHHHHHHH!!!!! YOU DA MANNNNNNNNNNN BAMMMMMMMY BABYYYY!!! LOVE YA BARRY OL BUDDY OL PALLLLLLL!!!!!! YAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kon on May 7:09 PM
cableguy615 on May 22, 2013 at 8:15 PM