Rasmussen in FL: Romney 44, Gingrich 28
posted at 10:00 am on January 29, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
Five weeks ago, this might have been a game changer. Is this a case of too little, too late?
Atlanta businessman and former presidential candidate Herman Cain endorsed Newt Gingrich Saturday night at a West Palm Beach Country Republican gathering after two months of wavering on whether he would offer his support to a fellow candidate.
The endorsement comes just three days before the crucial Florida primary, by far the largest state to vote so far in the GOP sweepstakes, and could help Gingrich energize tea party support. Gingrich campaign has flagged since his upstart, double-digit victory over front-runner Mitt Romney in the South Carolina primary a week ago.
“I had it in my heart and mind a long time ago” to endorse Gingrich, Cain said in a surprise appearance at the dinner. “Speaker Gingrich is a patriot, Speaker Gingrich is not afraid of bold ideas, and I also know that Speaker Gingrich is … going through this sausage grinder. I know what this sausage grinder is all about. I know that he’s going through this sausage grinder because he cares about the future of the United States of America.”
It seems a curious time for a Herman Cain endorsement. Newt could have most used this in Iowa to combat the tough negative advertising, and to rally Tea Party support in a state where it might have made a big difference. Alternately, Cain could have endorsed in South Carolina when Gingrich began his second surge in the polls, or perhaps just after when the race shifted to Florida and Gingrich took the polling lead. Endorsing over a weekend with just a couple of days left before the primary vote — in a state where hundreds of thousands of ballots have already been cast — seems unlikely to change the tide of the Florida primary.
Two polls out today show that tide moving strongly in favor of Mitt Romney. First we have Rasmussen, which shows Romney with a 16-point lead:
Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has opened a double-digit lead in Florida as the perception grows among Republican primary voters that he is the strongest general election candidate against President Obama. The state’s GOP Primary is on Tuesday.
The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Florida Republican Primary Voters, conducted Saturday, shows Romney up by 16 points with 44% support. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is a distant second at 28%.
These figures reflect a significant turnaround over the past week. Last Sunday, just after his big win in the South Carolina Primary, Gingrich led Romney by nine. By the middle of this past week, Romney was back in control with an eight-point advantage. Despite all the ups and downs, the results today are very similar to polling results found in Florida three weeks ago, coming off Romney’s decisive victory in the New Hampshire Primary.
Next we have Mason-Dixon’s poll for the Tampa Bay Times, which shows much the same momentum:
Mitt Romney needed Florida to resuscitate his campaign after a South Carolina routing, and on Tuesday, Florida is poised to deliver big.
A new Tampa Bay Times/Miami Herald/Bay News 9 poll found Romney easily beating Newt Gingrich among likely Republican primary voters, with 42 percent support to Gingrich’s 31 percent. Rick Santorum trails with 14 percent, followed by Ron Paul at 6 percent.
What looked like a neck-and-neck race at the start of last week quickly shifted in Romney’s favor as he and his allies drowned Gingrich on Florida TV and the former House speaker turned in two listless debate performances.
Romney leads in every region of the state — and by 16 percentage points in Tampa Bay. The two Republican front-runners are closest in conservative North Florida, where Romney has 36 percent support and Gingrich 31 percent.
With this large a lead, the internals are not exactly critical, but there are a couple of points to note. Romney leads women as he has throughout this primary, this time by 15, but now he also leads men — by 16. Romney now leads all age demos and wins a clear majority of seniors. Gingrich leads among self-described “very conservative” Republicans, but now only by six, 38/32, while Romney takes a majority of “somewhat conservative” voters, 52/24. Gingrich also leads among Tea Party adherents, but only by 3 points, 38/35.
On the critical issue of electability, Romney has prevailed mightily. He gets the nod over Gingrich as the best opponent to Obama by almost 2-1, 53/29. He also has a double-digit lead on the question of which would be more likely to keep campaign promises, 38/21, perhaps a backfire from Gingrich’s moon-base promises to Floridians — a case where pandering fell victim to reality. And perhaps the most worrisome for Gingrich, the percentage of people sure of their vote has risen to 74% — and the demos in which Romney leads tend to be most certain: seniors 80%, somewhat conservative 73%, and “other” 79%, where Romney leads 45/25.
Absent a game-changer, Romney appears poised for a double-digit victory in the first closed primary of the season, just as the nomination race starts splitting into the simultaneous contests that favor Romney’s organization.









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No one walks the walk harder than the man who’s willing to press “submit” on someone elses blog. No one.
libfreeordie on January 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM
So, in the majority of opinion, Romney is a moderate. Let’s take Romneycare out of the equation. Why is he a moderate when he supports capital enterprise, the Ryan plan to reduce the deficit,a strong military, support for Israel over the Palestines refusal to recognize Israel, a lower tax for everyone, etc., etc.What, in your addled minds think that Romney will rollover to Obama. Haven’t all of you castigated him as a ruthless robber baron? Do you have some dirt on a family man with not a scandal to his name? Do you hate him because he is a Morman, who gives 10 percent of his income to the Morman church, and not one percent? Where, in your crystal ball, is your proof that Mitt Romney will renege on his campaign promises? Now get this. Romney is going to be the next president, and if you choose to go elsewhere, you are whistling in the wind. Gingrich, Santorum and Paul. Line up in a circular firing squad if that is who can beat Obama and put this great country back on track. Form a third party and hand over the country to a Marxist. A pox on all of you.
Big Nicholas on January 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Gloating isn’t cool. People are upset right now, and we should be respectful of them, because we are going to need them.
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 12:41 PM
Where? is this coming from? I DO NOT believe any of this tripe above. Romney supporters WILL support ANYONE over Obama. He is the one that needs to leave 1600 Penn. this Fall.
g2825m on January 29, 2012 at 12:41 PM
Well Mercutio, when you put it like that, who can disagree.
libfreeordie on January 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM
Hey Conservative world…you ready for President Romney ?!?!?!
apocalypse on January 29, 2012 at 12:42 PM
WTF? Did you get into the communion wine this morning — or are you a DNC Troll trying to make Mitt supporters look goofy? Either way, gimme a break.
Scriptor on January 29, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Hate to break it to ya, Chief, but words on an intarwebs thread is just talk. Maybe I should judge your conservatism on whether I see you on my next deployment. Now that would be “walking the walk.”
Clown.
M240H on January 29, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Perry is an incompetent buffoon and I am an idiot.
Fair enough.
You haven’t answered my question. Is it okay now to call Obama an incompetent buffoon and an idiot?
Or you only reserve such insults for dumb hicks like myself and Perry?
TheRightMan on January 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Although I have questioned whether she writes her own Facebook posts, I do NOT question whether she came up with that particular asinine slogan. I bet she thought it up all by herself!
The truth is that liberals WANT Gingrich to be nominated because he would be easy to beat.
Makes me wonder whether John Ziegler isn’t on to something in his latest article:
bluegill on January 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM
Scriptor on January 29, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Jailbreak has been banned here 4 times already, under other names.
kingsjester on January 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM
I’m sorry, but I won’t dignify this nonsense with a response. Anybody that votes for Obama, knowing that he is a socialist, is not a conservative of any sort. This is as black and white as it gets.
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Right…
that above quote is a wingnut quote!!! Doing EXACTLY what you are CLAIMING is EXACTLY what gave us the Democrat controlled House in 2007 when all the supposed Conservatives decided they would sit home in the 2006 election…which led to the 2008 election of a guy that had NO EXPERIENCE running a country much less a 7-11 store!
Your thinking is what got us to where we are today.
g2825m on January 29, 2012 at 12:45 PM
Clown.
M240H on January 29, 2012 at 12:43 PM
Thank you for your service. Do you act differently in your everyday life than you do posting on Hot Air?
kingsjester on January 29, 2012 at 12:46 PM
He was newtered in the debates
hanzblinx on January 29, 2012 at 12:46 PM
I agree. It’s OK to gloat.
And I’ll be doing so at your expense when your boyfriend loses in November.
When Romney wins the GOP nomination, America loses. So does the GOP, by the way. You have been warned.
DRayRaven on January 29, 2012 at 12:46 PM
lol! Spot on!
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 12:46 PM
Great article and this is exactly what has happened. In a nutshell, Newt speaks for us!!! No one else is.
bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Were you telling the Romney haters the same thing after SC?
csdeven on January 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Ok, I understand your point. But I also think that people here are (presumably) mature adults and don’t necessarily need to be coddled. We don’t have to be THAT careful to avoid offending, I don’t think.
But, still, I see what you’re saying.
bluegill on January 29, 2012 at 12:47 PM
Unlike you, I’m not afraid of Obama.
He is a symptom as much as a cause.
You are not seeing it.
The problem is the rot in the GOP that is preventing us from the reforms needed to strengthen the GOP as the conservative and principled alternative to Statism.
Replacing O with Romney merely guts the GOP, continues statism, and leaves NO alternative to statism beyond.
You think that O is the only dangerous person in the White House.
However, Mitt, as a Republican in the White House, would do just as much damage to the country by destroying the Republican brand much like Bush did leading up to another 2008 debacle.
Win the Senate, and continue reforming the party from the grassroots up.
If we pad our lead in the House, and win the Senate, we are in a position to stop Obama even more.
O cannot destroy America by himself with a GOP Senate and House.
I am not prepared to jump out of the frying pan and into the fire.
Voting for Mittens does just that.
You are seeing the ‘long game’.
Reform first, victories later.
O is stopped if we simply take the Senate. That will give us more time to purge to libs like Romney out of the party some more and have a solid Scott Walker type ready to go up against Jeb Bush in 2016.
We need relentless reform now. Romney is not the answer.
KirknBurker on January 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM
The Tea Party hadn’t decided on anyone yet. 50% of the Florida Tea Partiers in the polls are voting for Romney.
She should have remained neutral. Newt Gingrich is the wrong person to be the Tea Party torchbearer.
haner on January 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM
By the end of this nominating process you moderate squishes will have so pissed off conservatives here in the South that Obama will actually make inroads here.We don’t hate Mormons, we hate liberals-and moderates are nothing more than liberals who don’t have the courage to admit it.I held my nose in 2008 and voted for that POS McCain-primarily because I counted on him not making it through his first term so Palin could move up.This time-if you give us that two-faced,lying,Yankee squish as our nominee-be prepared to spend lots of time trying to win states that should have been givens if a conservative were heading the ticket,valuable time better spent campaigning in swing states you desperately need to win.Suddenly the South will be in play.Just remember those conservatives you are calling inbreds and bigots-we hold grudges.Like re-living the War of Northern Aggression every day of our lives.So keep it up-and watch the South stay home!
redware on January 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM
M240H…do not worry I have people questioning my “CLAIM” that I am over deployed here in AFG all the time.
g2825m on January 29, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Mittens is like arctic sea ice…everyone says it will disappear but it’s as strong as ever.
DHChron on January 29, 2012 at 12:49 PM
It is amazing how foolish posters are on here not seeing it.
Romney will lose to O. Why do you think the libs and Media want that matchup?
KirknBurker on January 29, 2012 at 12:50 PM
So it wasn’t the fault of the GOP professional class and their dupes in the electorate who thought nominating an actual conservative would be so embarassing? The ones who assumed they could take base for granted, that they would volunteer, donate money, and get out the vote no matter who they nominated?
Hell, McCain sucked so bad he had to lug around Sarah Palin everywhere he went just to get people to show up for his rallies. Romney will be no different, but it’s our fault, not yours.
You don’t learn much from history, do you?
DRayRaven on January 29, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Shouldn’t you be spamming multiple threads with links to your lame @ssed blog?
csdeven on January 29, 2012 at 12:50 PM
Obama makes inroads in the South? Listen to yourself. This is not the rant of a rational person. If Obama makes inroads in the South, then it will be an epic realignment of the national parties, and not necessarily to you true conservatives’ advantage.
haner on January 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM
I don’t see anyone dispute what I posted, so I guess you agree with me, or just prefer to discuss this with your chummy group. I am an outsider, but can joust with you any way you want. Facts or insults.
Big Nicholas on January 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM
Honestly, I don’t give a rat’s ass what the libs want. We need to nominate our guy, and kick their asses regardless of whom we nominate.
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM
reagan also never said carter was a good man just in over his head. or that the economy was improving but it wasnt because of carter. romney has said both of those things about obama.
chasdal on January 29, 2012 at 12:51 PM
Not really. It’s why I do what I do. And it’s what you pay me for.
Now don’t you have to run along and be seen engaged in an overt act of piety/sympathy/reverence somewhere, clown?
M240H on January 29, 2012 at 12:52 PM
Kirk I think your political crystal ball is a little cloudy…
Romney will govern every bit as a conservative. :o) He’ll also be boxed in with a House and Hopefully Senate at his side.
g2825m on January 29, 2012 at 12:52 PM
Sure he did; he said a bunch of things like that.
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM
I agree with you, but the problem is that nominating Mittens will make it damn near impossible to pad our lead in the House or win the Senate. He’ll depress the vote on the Republican side, and the downticket races will suffer, as well.
DRayRaven on January 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM
That’s really what it comes down to, huh?
Go s*cede.
haner on January 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Yep. They are a despised group around here.
csdeven on January 29, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Calling South Carolina voters “inbred” is not gloating. Objecting to that kind of comment is not uptight.
galtani on January 29, 2012 at 12:55 PM
15T20N, ARNG, currently home station for the forseeable. Take care and risk management and extra ammo, brother.
M240H on January 29, 2012 at 12:56 PM
He’s so wooden and boring and uncomfortable around the voters.
I will never forget his 2009 CPAC speech. Man that was one uncomfortable guy. Stiff. Tried to crack a joke about Gov. Palin and totally blew it. People were like: “What the hell was that?”.
He is not the answer to throw up against Obama.
KirknBurker on January 29, 2012 at 12:57 PM
And to those that were there, remember Newt at 2009 CPAC. 100 times better than Romney.
Newt fights, Mitt bites.
KirknBurker on January 29, 2012 at 12:58 PM
DRay…NO. I blame supposed conservatives who sat home “sending a message”!
Well, 3-5 years how is that message? It Sucks! and we are in a worse position today than we would have been if we would have voted in Conservatives. How do I know this? I know we would not have elected Sotomayer and Kagan to the SCOTUS.I know we would not have been 5 TRILLION dollars more in debt. We would not have Obamacare. We would not have socialism run amok in this country!
So, yeah, I am TICKED OFF at those that decided to sit home in 2006 and 2008 because they weren’t “Man” enough to get out and vote for the R on the ballot. At least here in Iraq and Afghanistan they vote even at the ACTUAL shooting at them because they understand what freedom is and is something in America we take for granted.
g2825m on January 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Well you know what, Romney’s taken it to Gingrich pretty hard this week, both in the ads and in the debates. If he takes it to Obama just as hard we might be in for a pretty fun race. :)
WolvenOne on January 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM
http://www.hark.com/clips/dlvxhnstwz-the-trouble-with-our-liberal-friends
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Mitt’s 2009 CPAC speech was applauded by almost every conservative figure, from Rush to Michelle Malkin to NRO.
Your judgment is found wanting.
haner on January 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM
ABSOLUTELY! Romney supporters have taken a stand against the only politician in the race who has a long history of corruption, lying, infidelities, and erratic behavior. We are proud to have him, the serial adulterer Cain, ?fred? “I lobbied for a Haitian dictator” Thompson, and Michael Moore as enemies.
csdeven on January 29, 2012 at 12:59 PM
haha thanks! I am a Sand Sailor sitting over here in RC-East!
Bravo Zulu to you!
g2825m on January 29, 2012 at 1:00 PM
DRayRaven, what makes you so sure that Mitt’s nomination will depress the Republican vote? A true Republican would vote for his nominee. Independents vote is what wins elections. Why do you think McCain lost?
Big Nicholas on January 29, 2012 at 1:04 PM
The best and most conservative candidate in history and you chose to fight against him.
petunia on January 29, 2012 at 10:21 AM
You are funny. At least most of the rest of the Romney supporters are honest and don’t claim that Romney is conservative.
neuquenguy on January 29, 2012 at 1:04 PM
do me a favor. game out the next 4 years. with the coming entitlement crisis, and the coming simpson/bowles-style reforms that will be necessary. now, tell me what the dem party looks like in 4 years. i think you are missing the forrest for the trees. the entitlement crisis is existential for the dems. and it will be the end of them as a governing party. for quite some time.
t8stlikchkn on January 29, 2012 at 1:05 PM
Nice reverse psychology! Not biting…
g2825m on January 29, 2012 at 1:06 PM
I’m TICKED OFF that so many Republican voters are either uninformed or take freedom for granted and are willing to vote for an unprincipled, opportunistic, resume-padding, political HACK like Mitt Romney, who supported Paul Tsongas for President, ran to the LEFT of Ted Kennedy for Senate from MA, governed MA as a left-of-center Republican, told NARAL he would work as a pro-choice stealth agent if he ran for national office, never met a big government program he didn’t like, and left office only because he knew he’d LOSE the election and jeopardize his long-term political aspirations to outdo Daddy.
We talk about how OWS protestors think they’re owed a living? Well, this jackass thinks he’s OWED the White House, which is far worse.
And then his supporters have the balls to say WE are harming the country by refusing to support their man-crush?
Thank you for your service, by the way. One of my biggest regrets is that I didn’t sign up myself when I was young enough. But with all due respect, I will NOT vote for Mitt Romney…ever. The GOP professionals and their dupes in the electorate will never learn if we continue to vote like mind-numbed robots for whatever garbage they offer up.
The problems we have in this country are reaching critical mass, and Romney will not fix them. Period. He’ll nibble around the edges and expect us to kiss his ass in gratitude for it, just like Boehner & co. No, thanks. It’s time for real solutions, and if things have to get worse before they get better, so effing be it.
DRayRaven on January 29, 2012 at 1:08 PM
New Poll out of American Research Group, the guys that nailed the South Carolina vote almost exactly.
Romney: 43%
Gingrich: 32%
Santorum: 11%
Paul: 8%
Poll was conducted on Friday and Saturday, so its pretty recent. Looking over the internals now.
WolvenOne on January 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM
My brother, self-described Republicans are shrinking while independents grow.
Wonder why?
It is because of nominees like Romney and McCain, who are and were despised by the majority of their base and yet foisted upon them as the nominees by hook or crook.
So come Novemeber, myself and other former Republicans will be independents and you figure Romney will automatically get our votes?
Well… think again.
TheRightMan on January 29, 2012 at 1:09 PM
Proof that this happened, or is it simply enough to make the accusation?
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 1:10 PM
Agreed. If Romney is crowned…errr ah, I mean nominated, I am staying home. If there are more conservatives like me, then there are a lot fewer ballots being cast for conservative congressional members at both the state and federal level.
JeffVader on January 29, 2012 at 1:13 PM
Independents won’t win you an election if you depress your base to such an extent that they stay home or vote third party. Obama understands this. Romney doesn’t. And neither did McCain.
I’m less worried about being a “true Republican” and more worried about being a true proponent of limited government and personal responsibility. If “true Republican” means tinkering with big government programs to make them slightly less burdensome and objectionable, you can have it. We already have one statist party in this country. We don’t need two.
DRayRaven on January 29, 2012 at 1:13 PM
That makes a lot of sense: Sell out all of the conservatives down the ticket, because you are too busy pouting about having lost the nomination.
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 1:15 PM
Um, yikes.
Biggest take-away from this polls internals, just over a third of Florida primary voters have already votes. Of people in this group, an outright majority of 51% have voted for Romney, followed by Gingrich at 33%. According to ARG, to tie with Romney, Gingrich would have to get all undecideds on election day, and all of Ron Pauls votes.
Okay people I know its just a poll, not the gospel, but I think Gingrich supporters need to really brace themselves for Tuesday night.
WolvenOne on January 29, 2012 at 1:17 PM
Ouch. Sarah, keep pumping Newt! I think Sarah got a little too full of herself last time in SC when she pseudo-endorsed Newt and he won the primary.
haner on January 29, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Out of all I said, that’s the only point you can question?
That’s telling.
Alright, but in future, please do not call me out on statements I make. I don’t say something unless I can back it up (link):
DRayRaven on January 29, 2012 at 1:22 PM
What does personal responsibility mean to you exactly?
haner on January 29, 2012 at 1:25 PM
Before ghostrider sputters in indignation that I actually pulled up that article, let me offer his defense before he does so himelf –
But, but, but…Mitt was only telling them what he had to so he could be elected governor! He’s changed his mind!! He, he, he..didn’t mean it! He’s telling US the truth now! You, you, you…Romney HATER!!!
DRayRaven on January 29, 2012 at 1:25 PM
Florida is a complicated State…let’s face it they elected Jeb Bush and Chuck Crist…not exactly posterboys of Conservatism.
Regardless of what follows..I ain’t voting for or supporting in any manner, a Romney campaign. That applies to the general as well.
Come visit California to see what happens when you elect a GOP Progressive. The GOP negatives get so high, that the GOP ceases to exist in any meaningful way. The last Conservative, Chuck DeVore…packed his bags and moved to Texas.
Afterseven on January 29, 2012 at 1:26 PM
It means being free to pursue my own happiness, my own self interest and that of my family, free of unconstitutional government interference. It means people being accountable for their own choices and actions without a nanny state to prop them up at the expense of others.
It doesn’t mean government regulation and control of health care, and then using “personal responsibility” as an excuse to force people to buy insurance because the government itself has made it unaffordable. And it doesn’t mean progressive tax schemes, cuts in the rate of growth, and tinkering with the entitlement state so they bankrupt us a little later than they otherwise would. And it doesn’t mean accepting the terms of debate on the statist’s terms, as Mitt Romney and the moderate wing of the Republican Party do and have done for decades.
DRayRaven on January 29, 2012 at 1:29 PM
They must think they are immune to the harms Barry will bring to the country, they themselves and their children if re-elected, when they are sitting in the basement of their bunkers.
galtani on January 29, 2012 at 1:30 PM
It’s Charlie Crist. The other guy is the big Kahuna. Don’t want to mess with Him.
timberline on January 29, 2012 at 1:32 PM
You must think Obama is the cause of all our ills and they’ll be magically reversed as soon as he’s out of office. Here’s a clue: the problems that are leading into Greece-style fiscal collapse were pre-existing before Obama was elected, and Romney has said nothing that would lead anyone to believe he’s serious about fixing them.
Once you’re at the bottom of a cliff, you won’t care whether you flew over the edge at 90 mph with Obama or 75 mph with Romney.
DRayRaven on January 29, 2012 at 1:32 PM
Rightman, wise up! I am from MA and if you are not from here, you do not know a thing about a socialist state. Romney vetoed hundreds of items contained in bills coming to his desk and was shot down by a 90%% Democrat legislature. This is the state that imprisons many Democrat politicians onlyto have them re-elected when they get out. Romney got out because of four years of banging his head on a wall. The voters in this state are so far left and out of touch with most of the other states that they continually kepttheir murderer icon, Ted Kennedy in office, until his blessed death. This is the state that gave you the socialist Dukakis and the serial liar, Kerry. Put yourself in this position and give me some cogent reason why you would have done any better.We had a lot of well meaning Republican governors, but they all had to govern under thesocialists.
Big Nicholas on January 29, 2012 at 1:35 PM
Thanks for the link. I will call out any statement made by anybody on anything.
As for the source itself, I didn’t see any sourcing in the WaPo article, only a mention of a conversation that may or may not have occurred ten years ago. (Although I am surprised that you had a source! :))I stopped taking the MSM at face-value long ago.
And in an answer to your other question, no, I can’t say that I’m terribly interested in arguing over the rest of your list.
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 1:39 PM
You know, I’d be more sympathetic to the Not-Romneys, if they didn’t dismiss every conservative thats come out to bat for Romney as a closet liberal. If they didn’t ignore every conservative decision he made as governor. If they admitted even once that the man is better than Obama, or that he at least has his heart in the right place.
I find Gingrich to be completely and utterly unacceptable as a candidate, in fact I hold whim to a certain degree of contempt. However, even I can find good things to say about him, I oppose him but I am in no way unhinged.
Many of the ABR’s, DO appear unhinged. I’m sorry, I’d like to be nicer about this, but there just isn’t any way around it. Far too many of them cannot find a single good thing to say about the man. That is not a sign of rational thinking, that is a sign of outright mania!
Now, I do have to reiterate a previous point. I have friends that say they cannot vote for Romney, but I respect their decision on that. These same friends also say they couldn’t vote for Gingrich either, and can still find nice things to say about both men.
I can respect standing up for a principal, but in my own evaluation many people here are standing for something else entirely.
WolvenOne on January 29, 2012 at 1:40 PM
I don’t know why I keep coming back, guess it’s a sickness.
Infected.
I just see sides snyping and fighting at each other -you lie, you lie more.
It’s like a big game.
It’s not a game to me. I have two small children that I don’t see much of a future for. I see distortions from all sides.
I see vitriol and slander from every corner.
I have lost all trust and hope that God is in control.
MontanaMmmm on January 29, 2012 at 1:41 PM
This is a pretty childish post. I’ll thank you not to try to put words in my mouth. I can speak for myself just fine.
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 1:42 PM
I agree. We all have time to talk about politics and taking a moment to express well wishes for someone in need of it isn’t too much to do. We at HA have always done this, when someone has requested prayer or if they are going thru some illness or accident.
I think Santorum and his family would appreciate knowing that there are people that care. How do we know that members of his family or friends don’t read HA? Don’t you think the encouragement and well wishes would be passed on to him and his family?
Perhaps newbies aren’t aware that we communicate in areas other than politics:-)
bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 1:43 PM
I take this back. The article does have sources behind it.
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 1:44 PM
Is anybody aware that Judge Robert Bork is leading Romney’s judicial selection panel? Is this conservative enough for you?
By the way, the GOP winning the Senate alone won’t stop Obama. The Supreme Court is at stake and it doesn’t matter if we have 53 or 55 or 60 GOP senators; they will confirm a qualified liberal to the Court, and Obama will have at least 2 appointments, possibly more, in a second term.
So we need a GOP president, or the Court will be lost for a generation.
matthew8787 on January 29, 2012 at 1:48 PM
The media and the libs I want Gingrich.
alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 1:51 PM
The media and the libs
Iwant Gingrich.alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 1:51 PM
Damn keyboard!
alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 1:52 PM
Obama/Hillary all over again.
Obama wins again.
Schadenfreude on January 29, 2012 at 1:52 PM
No, they fear him more than the devil himself.
With Mitt they win, again.
Schadenfreude on January 29, 2012 at 1:53 PM
Honestly, who cares? Their crystal ball isn’t better than anybody else’s. We should nominate the best guy that we can nominate, and try to help him win. Even if Gingrich was more electable, it isn’t at all clear to me that he would be a better president… We’re $16 trillion in debt, and this guy wants to talk about moon colonies? Really?
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 1:55 PM
Being able to out-debate Biden is about as difficult and important as out-tapdancing George Washington at this time. Santorum’s smarmy big-government social conservatism won’t help with Mitt’s job killer meme problem in the Rust Belt once Obama & Co. get going and he doesn’t even put PA realistically in play any more than it already is. Santorum is Huckabee without the charm or Dan Quayle without actual policy substance. -If- Romney does pick him, it’ll drive my already low opinion of the man right to the Earth’s core.
ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 1:56 PM
And your logical reason for thinking that is?
alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 1:58 PM
Big Nicholas on January 29, 2012 at 12:40 PM
Because he did it when he was elected Gov. of MA:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/02/us/politics/romneys-strategies-as-governor-bucked-his-ceo-image.html?_r=3&pagewanted=all
ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 2:02 PM
Romney’s actual background, beliefs and record.
ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 2:03 PM
Gallop’s tracking poll has Gingrich’s National lead down to 2% over Romney. That may seem like good news on the surface, but they had him higher yesterday, and much of poll was taken before the second debate.
In all likelihood this means that Gingrich’s national lead outside of Florida has begun to collapse. This is very bad news for Gingrich, as his support is likely to take a much larger hit if he indeed loses in Florida and Nevada. If the trend continues his national support will have collapsed before weeks end, and he’ll have lost the last rational reason for staying in the race.
I know he’s vowed to stay on until the convention, but its hard to justify staying in the game if you’re nearly broke, and have no reasonable chance at victory.
And yes, if he indeed loses Florida he will have no reasonable chance at victory.
WolvenOne on January 29, 2012 at 2:04 PM
Herman Cain endorsing Newt shows me that his endorsement can’t be purchased. Cain thinks for himself and is a Conservative. He’s also a businessman. And he certainly can’t be called an “insider”, LOL
To me, an endorsement says “I agree with you, your ideas, policies and your record”
An endorsement should not result from a “here’s $35,000 for your campaign and oh, by the way, I’m running for President” hint-hint.
This endorsement has much more meaning than Haley’s for Romney, in my opinion.
bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 2:04 PM
We’re just gonna have to disagree on that one….
I was asking about his statement that the libs and the media fear Gingrich more than the devil himelf. Even ignoring the hyperbole, with Gingrich as the nominee Texas becomes a swing state. It’s not the libs who should fear Gingrich being nominated, it’s us.
alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM
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But Newton wouldn’t have a Santorum skirt to hide under when team Obie Really puts on the heat. Once they start on the whole intern deal with Calista, look out. He would probably just cry. Newt the Fighter. Good Luck with that.
FlaMurph on January 29, 2012 at 2:09 PM
How is that reneging? He was trying to close tax loopholes to close the budget deficit in MA. We are probably going to have to done some of that to resolve the Federal budget issues. Cuts alone won’t be enough: Close the loopholes, and lower the rates as much as you can.
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 2:11 PM
Allen West is being sacrificed in Florida by GOP Romney supporters for failing to give an offering to Mitt Romney. An appropriate answer should be forth coming.
Mr. Joe on January 29, 2012 at 2:12 PM
FlaMurph on January 29, 2012 at 2:09 PM
2008, with same results. The field sucks. The land is in the shape she’s in by self-inflicted wounds. Reload and store.
Schadenfreude on January 29, 2012 at 2:13 PM
There are two things that will keep Newt in the race: Anger and a primetime speaking slot at the convention. If I was Santorum and Pual, I also would hang in there until summer to get speaking slots at the convention.
ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 2:13 PM
What they did, versus what they said/say.
Schadenfreude on January 29, 2012 at 2:14 PM
alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 2:06 PM
Dead wrong. Obama is only prepared for a Romney win.
Schadenfreude on January 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM
Anyone who says the left fears Newt more has no credibility with me. The only ads the left has run to date are anti-Romney ads. The polls (and they have been very accurate all season) show Newt losing independents 25-75. Florida is highly in play with Romney, Florida is written off with Newt.
haner on January 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM
Legal Insurrection has gone off the deep end with the anti-Mitt stuff. We’ve known for some time that West is in a lot of trouble because of the anti-gerrymandering initiative the voters in Florida passed in 2010. But now despite what we’ve known for months, it’s now all of a sudden all Romney’s fault? I don’t know whether it’s that they’re being deliberately dishonest or stupid; neither is particularly appealing to consider.
alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 2:20 PM
Here it is again:
That’s called reneging on a campaign promise. You asked for an example and I documented one. When you promise to increase job production in a state and then proceed to become 47th out of 50 states (and would have been worse if not for Katrina) due to your own backtracking on your stated election goals, that’s both lying AND failure wrapped up in one ugly package.
ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 2:21 PM
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