Rasmussen in FL: Romney 44, Gingrich 28

posted at 10:00 am on January 29, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Five weeks ago, this might have been a game changer.  Is this a case of too little, too late?

Atlanta businessman and former presidential candidate Herman Cain endorsed Newt Gingrich Saturday night at a West Palm Beach Country Republican gathering after two months of wavering on whether he would offer his support to a fellow candidate.

The endorsement comes just three days before the crucial Florida primary, by far the largest state to vote so far in the GOP sweepstakes, and could help Gingrich energize tea party support. Gingrich campaign has flagged since his upstart, double-digit victory over front-runner Mitt Romney in the South Carolina primary a week ago.

“I had it in my heart and mind a long time ago” to endorse Gingrich, Cain said in a surprise appearance at the dinner. “Speaker Gingrich is a patriot, Speaker Gingrich is not afraid of bold ideas, and I also know that Speaker Gingrich is … going through this sausage grinder. I know what this sausage grinder is all about. I know that he’s going through this sausage grinder because he cares about the future of the United States of America.”

It seems a curious time for a Herman Cain endorsement.  Newt could have most used this in Iowa to combat the tough negative advertising, and to rally Tea Party support in a state where it might have made a big difference.  Alternately, Cain could have endorsed in South Carolina when Gingrich began his second surge in the polls, or perhaps just after when the race shifted to Florida and Gingrich took the polling lead.  Endorsing over a weekend with just a couple of days left before the primary vote — in a state where hundreds of thousands of ballots have already been cast — seems unlikely to change the tide of the Florida primary.

Two polls out today show that tide moving strongly in favor of Mitt Romney.  First we have Rasmussen, which shows Romney with a 16-point lead:

Former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney has opened a double-digit lead in Florida as the perception grows among Republican primary voters that he is the strongest general election candidate against President Obama. The state’s GOP Primary is on Tuesday.

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Florida Republican Primary Voters, conducted Saturday, shows Romney up by 16 points with 44% support. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is a distant second at 28%.

These figures reflect a significant turnaround over the past week. Last Sunday, just after his big win in the South Carolina Primary, Gingrich led Romney by nine.  By the middle of this past week,  Romney was back in control with an eight-point advantage. Despite all the ups and downs, the results today are very similar to polling results found in Florida three weeks ago, coming off Romney’s decisive victory in the New Hampshire Primary.

Next we have Mason-Dixon’s poll for the Tampa Bay Times, which shows much the same momentum:

Mitt Romney needed Florida to resuscitate his campaign after a South Carolina routing, and on Tuesday, Florida is poised to deliver big.

A new Tampa Bay Times/Miami Herald/Bay News 9 poll found Romney easily beating Newt Gingrich among likely Republican primary voters, with 42 percent support to Gingrich’s 31 percent. Rick Santorum trails with 14 percent, followed by Ron Paul at 6 percent.

What looked like a neck-and-neck race at the start of last week quickly shifted in Romney’s favor as he and his allies drowned Gingrich on Florida TV and the former House speaker turned in two listless debate performances.

Romney leads in every region of the state — and by 16 percentage points in Tampa Bay. The two Republican front-runners are closest in conservative North Florida, where Romney has 36 percent support and Gingrich 31 percent.

With this large a lead, the internals are not exactly critical, but there are a couple of points to note.  Romney leads women as he has throughout this primary, this time by 15, but now he also leads men — by 16.  Romney now leads all age demos and wins a clear majority of seniors.  Gingrich leads among self-described “very conservative” Republicans, but now only by six, 38/32, while Romney takes a majority of “somewhat conservative” voters, 52/24.  Gingrich also leads among Tea Party adherents, but only by 3 points, 38/35.

On the critical issue of electability, Romney has prevailed mightily.  He gets the nod over Gingrich as the best opponent to Obama by almost 2-1, 53/29.  He also has a double-digit lead on the question of which would be more likely to keep campaign promises, 38/21, perhaps a backfire from Gingrich’s moon-base promises to Floridians — a case where pandering fell victim to reality.  And perhaps the most worrisome for Gingrich, the percentage of people sure of their vote has risen to 74% — and the demos in which Romney leads tend to be most certain: seniors 80%, somewhat conservative 73%, and “other” 79%, where Romney leads 45/25.

Absent a game-changer, Romney appears poised for a double-digit victory in the first closed primary of the season, just as the nomination race starts splitting into the simultaneous contests that favor Romney’s organization.


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Dead wrong. Obama is only prepared for a Romney win.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM

They probably only are prepared for a Romney win because they don’t think they’re lucky enough to have Newt be the nominee. If Newt did pull it out they would have several months to get ready for him though and a general campaign against Newt is a target-rich environment.

alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM

2008, with same results. The field sucks. The land is in the shape she’s in by self-inflicted wounds. Reload and store.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2012 at 2:13 PM

Franklin’s prophecy has come true, we have failed to keep the republic.

ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 2:23 PM

Perry is an incompetent buffoon and I am an idiot.

TheRightMan on January 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Thanks for clearing that up for us.

haner on January 29, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Dead wrong. Obama is only prepared for a Romney win.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM

If Newt’s the nominee, Obama doesn’t even need to prepare. Just let Gingrich talk.

haner on January 29, 2012 at 2:25 PM

Dead wrong. Obama is only prepared for a Romney win.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Newt only got into the race for name recognition and book sales. The only reason that he’s doing as well as he is now is that he’s the only remotely viable alternative to Mittens left standing.

Obama doesn’t need to be “prepared” for a Newt win, the man is intellectually undisciplined and lacking in common sense. His supporters were spitting into the wind about the 90′s Congress support arguments when you consider that just last summer Newt trashed his own campaign and was rightly lambasted by the gentleman from Iowa for being an embarrassment to the party.

ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 2:28 PM

How is that reneging? He was trying to close tax loopholes to close the budget deficit in MA. We are probably going to have to done some of that to resolve the Federal budget issues. Cuts alone won’t be enough: Close the loopholes, and lower the rates as much as you can.

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 2:11 PM

Here it is again:

Much of the business community in Massachusetts was puzzled. Mitt Romney, a Republican with high-caliber corporate credentials, had run for governor pledging to sweep aside barriers to business and act as the state’s “top salesman.”

That’s called reneging on a campaign promise. You asked for an example and I documented one. When you promise to increase job production in a state and then proceed to become 47th out of 50 states (and would have been worse if not for Katrina) due to your own backtracking on your stated election goals, that’s both lying AND failure wrapped up in one ugly package.

ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 2:21 PM

Explain how that quote proves that he reneged. Which promise did he renege on?

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Newt only got into the race for name recognition and book sales. The only reason that he’s doing as well as he is now is that he’s the only remotely viable alternative to Mittens left standing.

The only reason that anybody cares about Newt is because Perry was such an awful candidate, and Palin never ran.

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 2:34 PM

Explain how that quote proves that he reneged. Which promise did he renege on?

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 2:33 PM

He promised to lower barriers to business and instead raised them massively, so massively in fact that it bottomed out MA’s job creation down to that of the Katrina states. Are you really that incapable of reading English?

ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Newt only got into the race for name recognition and book sales. The only reason that he’s doing as well as he is now is that he’s the only remotely viable alternative to Mittens left standing.

ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 2:28 PM

I think there’s a very good chance you’re right but seeing as how it’s Newt I think there’s still a slight chance he did really get in it with the intention of winning. Rush has said more than once that the talked to Newt a long time ago and Newt broke down for him why the rest of the potential Republican field would either not get in the race or wouldn’t have a chance in the primaries and so he thought he had the nomination sewn up a year ago. A man who described himself as an “advocate” and “definer” of civilization might just be arrogant enough that he did get in the race to win it.

alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Explain how that quote proves that he reneged. Which promise did he renege on?

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 2:33 PM

He promised to lower barriers to business and instead raised them massively, so massively in fact that it bottomed out MA’s job creation down to that of the Katrina states. Are you really that incapable of reading English?

ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 2:38 PM

My Enlish is fine, but I’m starting to wonder about yours. He didn’t raise barriers to business in MA; he closed tax loopholes. There is a difference.

But his campaign promise never to raise taxes left him with few options once in office: the state’s budget deficit had reached $3 billion, a gap that could not be eliminated by cutting spending and reducing the state work force.

Inside the Romney administration, Alan LeBovidge, a recently retired corporate tax adviser at PricewaterhouseCoopers and the state’s commissioner of revenue, stumbled on a potential trove of cash. He found that dozens of Massachusetts banks had reduced their taxes by transferring billions of dollars in assets, like mortgages, into real estate investment trusts. The trusts, by design, were subject to virtually no taxes. Mr. LeBovidge wanted to ban the practice and force the banks to pay outstanding taxes on the assets.

Would the new governor sign on? Mr. Romney, after all, had spent decades trying to wring profits out of companies as a founder of Bain Capital, a Boston private equity firm, and had deep ties to the state’s banking industry.

During a lengthy discussion in Mr. Romney’s office in early 2003, Mr. LeBovidge made his case. “This is costing us a ton of money, Governor,” he recalled telling Mr. Romney.

By 2006, Mr. Romney was traveling the country, all but openly campaigning for the White House as a fiscal conservative. Much to Mr. Norquist’s delight, Mr. Romney became the first Republican presidential candidate to sign his no-new-taxes pledge, in 2007 — something he had declined to do five years earlier when he ran for governor.

And apparently, he didn’[t run as a doctrinaire anti-tax guy when he ran for governor of MA.

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 2:49 PM

No, they fear him more than the devil himself.
With Mitt they win, again.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2012 at 1:53 PM

And your logical reason for thinking that is?

alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 1:58 PM

Schadenfreude is correct. The logic is in the fact that you don’t attack what you don’t fear.

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Schadenfreude is correct. The logic is in the fact that you don’t attack what you don’t fear.

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Big labor is right now running ads in Florida attack Romney, not Gingrich. So by the standard you just laid out the one of the two the left fears is……

alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM

And apparently, he didn’[t run as a doctrinaire anti-tax guy when he ran for governor of MA.

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 2:49 PM

True, he didn’t run as a Conservative. MA has 11% Republican. No, he ran as a Liberal and he governed as a Liberal. Closing Tax loopholes is a tax increase. Same as your Schedule A under Medical expenses. You can deduct only amounts that are over 7.5% of your AGI. That is a tax. The IRS closes loopholes all of the time in various ways, by limiting deductions. Romney did that and more by raising fees of all kinds. His record is out there for those that want to know about it.

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 3:04 PM

True, he didn’t run as a Conservative. MA has 11% Republican. No, he ran as a Liberal and he governed as a Liberal. Closing Tax loopholes is a tax increase. Same as your Schedule A under Medical expenses. You can deduct only amounts that are over 7.5% of your AGI. That is a tax. The IRS closes loopholes all of the time in various ways, by limiting deductions. Romney did that and more by raising fees of all kinds. His record is out there for those that want to know about it.

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 3:04 PM

I would say that he governed as a moderate. He vetoed a lot of Democrat bills (and got overridden alot), and he tried to be a moderating force. Closing tax loopholes is not necessarily a “liberal thing”. These loopholes often get passed incrementally, and occasionally need to be pruned, when they become too cumbersome, and stop making sense.

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 3:11 PM

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Big labor is right now running ads in Florida attack Romney, not Gingrich. So by the standard you just laid out the one of the two the left fears is……

alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 3:01 PM

I haven’t seen that. Do you have any links? Besides, the left are equal opportunity attackers; anything that will further their cause. I am speaking of the Establishment Republicans and the B.O. Administration. The ER want Mitt because he will help them keep their power. Newt will take as much as he can away, because he did it before. The Admin. want Mitt, because he’ll be so easy to defeat. It is the ER that are attacking Newt.

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Romney’s record as a lib in a liberal state isn’t exactly something to brag about:

The answer to the first is easy: Massachusetts’ economy performed poorly during his tenure and his defense is misleading. Massachusetts’ unemployment generally follows that of the nation as a whole, but it went from slightly better than the national unemployment rate (5.6 percent in the state versus 5.8 percent in the country) when he took office to slightly worse when he left (4.7 percent in Massachusetts versus 4.4 percent nationally). And his record is even arguably worse than that: Massachusetts lost population for two years in a row during Romney’s term. That means the unemployment number went down because the denominator shrank, but that’s hardly a sign of a growing economy. Total jobs in Massachusetts were the same when he left office as when he started and many key industries actually lost jobs.

Of course, that may not be Romney’s fault. “The curve follows national average,” says Fred Bayles, a veteran political observer at Boston University. “Massachusetts took a little bit of a bigger hit when the dotcom bubble burst and took a little longer to recover.”

But a number of Romney’s actions did not help. Romney is accused by critics of four main failures on the job front: absenteeism and trashing his state while running for president, blocking stem cell research that could benefit the state’s strong biotechnology sector, refusing to invest in renewable energy and neglecting the state’s infrastructure.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/164599/why-mitt-romney-had-such-bad-record-jobs-massachusetts

The point is that this lib is complaining about Romney being too conservative, especially on stem cell research, and renewable energy.

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 3:15 PM

“I can see if you’re looking at things that sound nice you might say his record is a mixed bag, but if you’re talking about actual job creation, it has to be termed an unquestioned failure,” said Tim Sullivan, spokesman for the AFL-CIO, Massachusetts’ largest labor union. He disputes even the Bristol-Myers Squibb facility as a plus for Romney. He says that happened in spite of the governor.

http://www.wbur.org/2011/12/15/romney-jobs

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Slightly O/T: the GOP’s best argument against Obama is neutralized if Romney is the nominee. Plain and simple. Even the libs get it. Michael Tomasky at the Daily Beast, http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/29/michael-tomasky-on-how-rick-santorum-nailed-mitt-on-romneycare.html txmomof6 on January 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Obama’s already lost the issue of Obamacare. If Gingrich is the nominee what’s off the table is the cause of the near collapse of the banking system – and the Dodd-Frank regulations which have stifled a recovery. As is the inherent corruption of market destroying GSE’s like Fannie and Freddie. Palin didn’t understand this issue in 2008 and she and Gingrich’s supporters don’t now.

Basilsbest on January 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM

I haven’t seen that. Do you have any links? Besides, the left are equal opportunity attackers; anything that will further their cause. I am speaking of the Establishment Republicans and the B.O. Administration. The ER want Mitt because he will help them keep their power. Newt will take as much as he can away, because he did it before. The Admin. want Mitt, because he’ll be so easy to defeat. It is the ER that are attacking Newt.

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Ask and you shall receive!

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/20/news/la-pn-labor-union-targets-romney-florida-ad-20120120

No fair changing the topic. The question was how we knew the left and media feared Newt and you said they don’t attack what they don’t fear. The left is not attacking Newt, they’re attacking Romney. Bringing in the Republican establishment, whoever and whatever they are, is a dodge you’re trying because you stepped in it. I’m not going to let you get away that easy.

alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 3:21 PM

You mean one Georgia adulterer is supporting another Georgia adulterer?

one guy who could not run a professional campaign is endorsing another guy who can not run a professional campaign?

one guy who whined about the media trying to destroy him by reporting the facts is endorsing another guy who whines about how the media is destroying him by reporting the facts..

GAMECHANGER!!

Gingrich sucks, and while Cain is a nice guy- who really cares what he thinks?

AirForceCane on January 29, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Irony of the times, Mitt called Newt “Goldilocks”, heh.

Schadenfreude on January 29, 2012 at 3:42 PM

I’m going to laugh my @ss off when President Mittens enacts Romneycare in every state, then the government will decide it’s not cost effective to re-attach it. I’ll be an @ssless clown :(

DHChron on January 29, 2012 at 10:28 AM

Hey dumb@ss. Obamacare is in effect…at least by 2014.

rubberneck on January 29, 2012 at 3:44 PM

I was not there. I don’t know whether “Newt” ever said the words, “I want an open marriage” to his second wife (or whatever number wife it was), and I don’t much care, but right, wrong or indifferent, an “open marriage” was obviously what he was engaging in. A rose is still a rose, no mater what it is called. As far as I am concerned once he said, and stuck with it especially, that the $1.6 million he got from Freddy Mac was for “history lessons”, he had no credibility at all anymore as that preposterous claim is beyond any semblance of rational belief.

VorDaj on January 29, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Slightly O/T: the GOP’s best argument against Obama is neutralized if Romney is the nominee. Plain and simple. Even the libs get it. Michael Tomasky at the Daily Beast, http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/29/michael-tomasky-on-how-rick-santorum-nailed-mitt-on-romneycare.html txmomof6 on January 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Obama’s already lost the issue of Obamacare. If Gingrich is the nominee what’s off the table is the cause of the near collapse of the banking system – and the Dodd-Frank regulations which have stifled a recovery. As is the inherent corruption of market destroying GSE’s like Fannie and Freddie. Palin didn’t understand this issue in 2008 and she and Gingrich’s supporters don’t now.

Basilsbest on January 29, 2012 at 3:18 PM

I really don’t see what the problem is with this issue. All that Romney would have to do is to attack Obama on the health care issue. Every time that Obama speaks on this issue, he loses support. If Obama tries to turn it around on Romney by citing Romneycare, Romney can counter by saying that he never resorted to using corrupt bargains or slick parliamentary maneuvers to shove an unpopular bill down the people’s throats. Force Obama to defend this crap legislation, and he’ll do himself in.

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 3:48 PM

If Newt’s the nominee, Obama doesn’t even need to prepare. Just let Gingrich talk.

haner on January 29, 2012 at 2:25 PM

If only Gingrich could hurry up and establish that Moon Colony of 13,000 and get statehood for them in time for the next election at least he would get 3 electoral votes against Obama.

VorDaj on January 29, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Newt Gingrich: “I melt when I’m around him [Clinton]. After I get out, I need two hours to detoxify. My people are nervous about me going in there because of the way I deal with this.”

Newt Gingrich, our original Chris Matthews.

haner on January 29, 2012 at 4:06 PM

I’ve been in bed resting from illness, and saw one of those History Channel’s alien shows. Funny how they connect everything to aliens. Well this one was cowboys and Native Americans. Yes, they showed a clip of the movie “Cowboys And Aliens”.

They also showed Moroni and Joseph Smith and then Brigham Young. Interesting.

I am more of a Santorum supporter, if it ever comes up to PA let’s see if he’s still standing. If I was in Florida all that over-advertising (I am used to it, believe me) would make me vote for the other guy even stronger. Like some couple said in Iowa: Whoever calls us less, we’ll vote for him.

I am puzzled by Florida developments. Establishment has their claws all over that state.McCain is “running against Palin” imho so keep that in mind.

ProudPalinFan on January 29, 2012 at 4:28 PM

One lying horn-dog lobbyist endorses another.

Cain is learning from Newt, I suppose, which is why he is now betraying “the People” who he endorsed only three weeks ago.

The Dark Side is strong with Newt.

Adjoran on January 29, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Romney = Bob Dole, John McCain, Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale and Charlie Christ all wrapped into one package.
Losers all of them.

And all worked their butts off fighting and calling out Obama on every issue under the book. Right? Right? Right?

ProudPalinFan on January 29, 2012 at 4:31 PM

When a rino is the nominee the conservatives are told to hole their nose and vote for the rino in order to beat the dim – Dole, McCain, et al. The cry is “Anybody but Obama.” so vote rino.

However, when a conservative becomes the nominee – Joe Miller, Christine O’Donnel, Sharon Angle, et al – the republican leadership refuses to support them and even votes for the dim.

This is what will create a third party. Conservative republicans are being snubbed and shown contempt by their own party.

Kaffa on January 29, 2012 at 11:02 AM

You do know that Gingrich has supported liberal candidates over conservative ones, as recently as 2009? Whats worse, the most notorious of these incidents was in a fairly conservative district. Really, in many very real ways Gingrich is pretty liberal, to the left of Romney in many respects.

Now, if you were supporting Santorum over Romney, this argument might be valid. As it stands however, its misdirected over-hyped hypocritical hyperbole.

You heard me, I dare you to say that three times fast! Double dare you!

WolvenOne on January 29, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Slightly O/T: the GOP’s best argument against Obama is neutralized if Romney is the nominee. Plain and simple. Even the libs get it. Michael Tomasky at the Daily Beast, http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/01/29/michael-tomasky-on-how-rick-santorum-nailed-mitt-on-romneycare.html txmomof6 on January 29, 2012 at 10:58 AM

Obama- i passed obamacare.
Romney-I will sign repeal of Obamacare
Obama-But Obamacare and Romney care same thing
Romney-Romneycare is state chosen Obamacare is federal government
mandated. I will sign repeal of Obamacare.
Obama-but Obamacare is the same as Romneycare.
Romney-I will sign repeal of obamacare you shoved it down our throats while we protested against it
Obama-but obamacare is the same as romneycare
Romney-I will sign repeal of obamacare Romneycare was not protested against in ma. and elected legislature wanted it
Obama-but obamacare is the same as Romneycare.
Romney- I will sign repeal of obamacare

gerrym51 on January 29, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Newtie has gotten the coveted failed-candidate-and-fellow- adulterer endorsement. What a coup.

Birds of a feather…

Philly on January 29, 2012 at 4:53 PM

He promised to lower barriers to business and instead raised them massively, so massively in fact that it bottomed out MA’s job creation down to that of the Katrina states. Are you really that incapable of reading English?

ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 2:38 PM

My Enlish is fine, but I’m starting to wonder about yours. He didn’t raise barriers to business in MA; he closed tax loopholes. There is a difference.

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 2:49 PM

If you seriously believe this, then you are too deluded/willfully ignorant to have a further conversation with. Romney pledged to create a more favorable business environment, then reneged and created a worse one by raising tax rates, penalizing corporations that did the exact same things Bain did and demagoging capitalism, then cleaned up his act when Norquist chastised him and reminded him that anti-business garbage wouldn’t fly in the (R) primary Romney wanted to run in for 2007-8.

Romney promised one thing, did EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE and destroyed job creation and business growth in MA, and you want him to repeat that for the country as a whole.

End of sentence, end of story.

ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 5:05 PM

GALLUPUSATODAY POLL OF SWING STATES:

Obama 47% Romney 48%
Obama 50% Paul 43%
Obama 51% Santorum 44%
Obama 54% Gingrich 40%

“Vote for Newt, annoy a liberal!”

haner on January 29, 2012 at 5:09 PM

Perry is an incompetent buffoon and I am an idiot.

TheRightMan on January 29, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Don’t be so hard on yourself. You are not an idiot because at least you got the first part right.

SparkPlug on January 29, 2012 at 5:14 PM

GALLUPUSATODAY POLL OF SWING STATES:

Obama 47% Romney 48%
Obama 50% Paul 43%
Obama 51% Santorum 44%
Obama 54% Gingrich 40%
“Vote for Newt, annoy a liberal!”

haner on January 29, 2012 at 5:09 PM

do you honestly believe in Nov, IF newt were the nom, those numbers would not flip? really? after the obama record is “reminded” to the american people? maybe not. i think we’re ok either way.

t8stlikchkn on January 29, 2012 at 5:32 PM

Who do you think Obama perceives as being the greatest threat in the general?

captn2fat on January 29, 2012 at 5:46 PM

probably mitt. as carter thought GHWB was.

t8stlikchkn on January 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM

Who do you think Obama perceives as being the greatest threat in the general?

captn2fat on January 29, 2012 at 5:46 PM

probably mitt. as carter thought GHWB was.

t8stlikchkn on January 29, 2012 at 5:49 PM

So that makes Gingrich…Reagan? But people actually liked Reagan.

captn2fat on January 29, 2012 at 5:56 PM

So that makes Gingrich…Reagan? But people actually liked Reagan.

captn2fat on January 29, 2012 at 5:56 PM

i dont think i said that. i think i was tlaking abouit mitt. i beleive you brought up reagan and newt, right? i THINK what i said was the more moderate candidate is seen by dems as a threat. to take the squish/indy/mods away. and obama sees mitt as therefore more of a threat. capice?

t8stlikchkn on January 29, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Obama- i passed obamacare.
Romney-I will sign repeal of Obamacare
Obama-But Obamacare and Romney care same thing
Romney-Romneycare is state chosen Obamacare is federal government
mandated. I will sign repeal of Obamacare.
Obama-but Obamacare is the same as Romneycare.
Romney-I will sign repeal of obamacare you shoved it down our throats while we protested against it
Obama-but obamacare is the same as romneycare
Romney-I will sign repeal of obamacare Romneycare was not protested against in ma. and elected legislature wanted it
Obama-but obamacare is the same as Romneycare.
Romney- I will sign repeal of obamacare

gerrym51 on January 29, 2012 at 4:48 PM

wow that seals it for me. i am voting obama. OR staying home; thereby allowing him to be re-elected and thereby ensuring oabamcare is enacted; fully. right? thats what supposed to be the endgame of that argument. right?

t8stlikchkn on January 29, 2012 at 6:04 PM

Romney promised one thing, did EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE and destroyed job creation and business growth in MA, and you want him to repeat that for the country as a whole.

End of sentence, end of story.

ebrown2 on January 29, 2012 at 5:05 PM

False. Feel free to think whatever you like, but the record is quite different and considerably more complex than what you say. And as for willfullyy deluded/ignorant: Pot, kettle, black.

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 6:10 PM

But people actually liked Reagan.

That’s the key, isn’t it?

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 6:11 PM

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-live/2012/01/gingrich-nudges-for-santorum-to-drop-out-112702.html

Looks like Romney will win Florida, but I am hoping Santorum will beat Newt for second place. He can then call for Newt to step aside.

galtani on January 29, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Perhaps newbies aren’t aware that we communicate in areas other than politics:-)

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 1:43 PM

You know, I’m a newbie, I don’t support Gingrich and I have expressed my best wishes for Bella Santorum’s health and my gratitude that she seems to improve.

But if somebody prefers to pray privately, it’s up to them, IMO.

Calling people heartless is not a good idea. I thought we found that out during the last few months.

Gelsomina on January 29, 2012 at 7:19 PM

This is so funny. Rasmussen has been so in the tank for Mittbama since day one, duh!

We are battle tested veterans in Florida.

In 2010 we had the TEMERITY to vote Allen West to Congress, the AUDACITY to send Marco Rubio to the Senate, and the NERVE to elect Rick Scott as Governor. All of these men went up against the Republican establishment’s Machine and WON!

Florida went total TEA Party in 2010 but we are all going to change our minds and get in bed with Mr. Socialized Medicine who will give his Wall Street buddies carbon trading to fuel their addiction for revenues lost thanks to the implosion of mortgaged backed securities. Who will give us Supreme Court justices like David Souter who will vote with the Democrats.

We are not afraid of the Republican elites. They are scared of us. We stared them down in Florida in 2010 and kicked their butts back to DC. We already won that battle.

I don’t know one person who is voting for Mittbama, not one. Why, because Obama isn’t the bogeyman. The Republican Bushwackers are.

Nice try but it isn’t fooling anybody.

Jayrae on January 29, 2012 at 7:56 PM

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 1:43 PM

You know, I’m a newbie, I don’t support Gingrich and I have expressed my best wishes for Bella Santorum’s health and my gratitude that she seems to improve.

But if somebody prefers to pray privately, it’s up to them, IMO.

Calling people heartless is not a good idea. I thought we found that out during the last few months.

Gelsomina on January 29, 2012 at 7:19 PM

You are right. I agree some people even when they are in church aren’t comfortable to pray aloud. It’s been a long time since registration was open and perhaps some of us got set in our ways. I didn’t mean to sound tacky or rude & I apologize. We all should be more tolerant of other peoples views and ways.

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 8:05 PM

http://www.politico.com/blogs/politico-live/2012/01/gingrich-nudges-for-santorum-to-drop-out-112702.html

Looks like Romney will win Florida, but I am hoping Santorum will beat Newt for second place. He can then call for Newt to step aside.

galtani on January 29, 2012 at 6:26 PM

With Santorum polling ahead of Gingrich against Obama in the swing states, why isn’t Newt dropping out instead of calling for Santorum to drop out?

Rational Thought on January 29, 2012 at 8:07 PM

I have been voting for Republicans ever since Reagan beat Carter. I have never voted for a Democrat, for any office, at any level, during all that time. I have bit the bullet, held my nose, and pulled the lever for every sort of dipwad and scumbag the Republican elites have foisted on me for over thirty years. I drank the “lesser of two evils” koolade, always hopeful that the next time, the next turn, the next round, the Republicans would finally elect someone that would do the right thing. I voted for Bush, then Dole, then Bush, then McCain, and watched my country go to hell in a handbasket unabated, even during the years the Republicans had complete control of the government. At this time, I can say with absolute certainty that if Romney, the quintessential elitist snob, buys the nomination, with the complicity of the asinine Republican sheep who make this sort of fiasco possible, I will finally stop this long, painful charade of expecting the people of this country to ever get it right, and not vote at all in the next presidential election. I have finally come to the realization that I am one man in a nation of 330 million people. I can no more stop this country from its long march off a short pier than I can stop the rain from falling. I will say a prayer for the America of my youth that is no more.

blackelkspeaks on January 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM

But people actually liked Reagan.
That’s the key, isn’t it?

ghostwriter on January 29, 2012 at 6:11 PM

if i recall correctly the MSM and most dems actually hated reagan. 60% of “us” liked him, yeah. so when you say “people”, yes, 60-65% did. the rest not so much. i have clients who still talk about him as the devil incarnate. AT THE TIME. more folks NOW say they liked him, in hingsight.

t8stlikchkn on January 29, 2012 at 8:25 PM

….. because Obama isn’t the bogeyman. ….Nice try but it isn’t fooling anybody.

Jayrae on January 29, 2012 at 7:56 PM

rethink. he’s a socialist destroying the country. worth voting against, whoever is oppoosed to THAT. and THATS the equation. now, lets get back to vilifying each other! yee-haw!!!

t8stlikchkn on January 29, 2012 at 8:29 PM

I will say a prayer for the America of my youth that is no more.

blackelkspeaks on January 29, 2012 at 8:22 PM

YOU are not a quitter, and YOU will not quit. you may think you will. you perhaps are going wobbly, but the founders of this country, and your children and grandchildren deserve more from you. and YOU will deliver. i have faith in you, even though i have no faith in the chickensh*t GOP establishment, as you. but WE will not quit. life is a always a choice. choosing the best of 2 bad options is what life is often about. put the emotionalism and childishness away. the time for games is over. we need you. the battleship can be turned around. if you dont quit. now, can we count on you? or not. if the answers the same (i.e. no), thats fine. some of us choose differently.

t8stlikchkn on January 29, 2012 at 8:37 PM

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Ask and you shall receive!

http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jan/20/news/la-pn-labor-union-targets-romney-florida-ad-20120120

No fair changing the topic. The question was how we knew the left and media feared Newt and you said they don’t attack what they don’t fear. The left is not attacking Newt, they’re attacking Romney. Bringing in the Republican establishment, whoever and whatever they are, is a dodge you’re trying because you stepped in it. I’m not going to let you get away that easy.

alchemist19 on January 29, 2012 at 3:21 PM

I’m not changing the topic but you need to be aware of what I consider the “left” and the “media”. The left are those by word & deed that oppose the Country & that includes the Admin. The MSM aid each. The other factor is that the Establishment Republicans by word and deed do the same thing. Each factor want Romney elected; for different reasons.

The chances of Newt winning against B.O. are greater & so they fear him. They know they can beat Romney. (That ad the Union is running in FL? That was their way of telling him, LOL)

The Establishment Republicans know that also and also know that Newt will remove as much power from them as he can, because unlike those that claim Newt is not a Conservative, they know he is:-) He took power from them before and that’s why they fear him.

Now I’m not saying that Newt would win against B.O. but he is the only one that can. And both the Admin, the left, the MSM & the Establishment R’s know it also. I’ll also add that Newt would definitely win against B.O. if it was a fair election, i.e. no fraud, etc. like 2008.

Hope that makes it easier to understand what I think:-)

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 9:13 PM

For all you Romney-haters that claim the media is on his side – the facts show quite a different story. It’s obvious that the media is doing its best to push a longer, drawn out horse race and this shows in the results of the latest Center for Media and Public Affairs research out of George Mason University
Romney: 78% negative, 22% positive
Gingrich: 48% negative, 52% positive
First Newt threatens to sit out debates if the audience is required to hold back applause, then he complains that the audience is stacked against him. Now Newt claims “he cannot debate someone who doesn’t tell the truth” – do you think Obama will be telling the truth during the perhaps 1 or 2 presidential debates? And these presidential debates will be very stacked by both audience and moderators on Obama’s side. Many of you claim that Newt’s debate skills are the reason for him to win the nomination but using this information – what debate skills? If you listen to the actual stump speeches of Mitt versus Newt, it’s sad to see Newt’s speech is pretty much one long complaining tirade – imagine the “carpet bombing” of negative ads the left would throw at Newt and it’s obvious, he doesn’t have the temperament to take it and remain a positive presence on the campaign trail

BabysCatz on January 29, 2012 at 9:25 PM

This was posted a few times yesterday. Comparison of Romney and Newt’s records:
http://www.politijim.com/2012/01/stats-on-what-newt-and-mitt-did-not.html

There may be other sites, but that’s one I saved.

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Why is Romney so fearful?

http://www.buzzfeed.com/zekejmiller/romney-eyeing-blowout-keeps-foot-to-newts-neck

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 9:43 PM

At this point, I don’t care anymore. This country is broke and on its way to Greece. Better that we learn the hard way then never to learn at all. Go Obama!/

Decoski on January 29, 2012 at 10:02 PM

they should have piped in the song “who let the dogs out” when they were both on stage…

Bradky on January 29, 2012 at 10:15 PM

Screw Hermain Cain the Betrayer. He already endorsed me, and I am not happy about his faithlessness. Maybe I should have a beer with his wife and we can compare tales of betrayal. At least he is endorsing the Lord God King High Betrayer himself instead of me.

And I really thought being named Time‘s 2006 Person of the Year” was finally going to pay off . . .

Adjoran on January 30, 2012 at 12:03 AM

Midnight SurveyUSA poll:

SurveyUSA’s final numbers show Romney 15 points atop Gingrich, 41% to 26%.

Romney is ahead in every region of the state. Gingrich draws to within single digits among Evangelicals, pro-life voters, Tea Party voters, and younger voters, but Romney overwhelms with a 25-point advantage among the affluent, a 20-point advantage among the college educated, a 20-point advantage among women, and a 19-point advantage among voters age 50+. There is effectively no difference between those who have already voted and those who have not yet voted, so a late Gingrich surge is not anticipated.

http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=d5499f5d-fe8e-4423-80d6-51b54ed472d0

haner on January 30, 2012 at 12:58 AM

I’m glad the more level headed voters of New Hampshire and Florida have sense enough to see what an embarrassment Newt is to the Republican party.

scotash on January 30, 2012 at 3:15 AM

George Soros says he wants Romney to be the Republican Candidate because there isn’t much difference between Romney and Obama. Jan 25, 2012

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyftC27vNp0

wtng2fish on January 30, 2012 at 3:46 AM

I’m not changing the topic but you need to be aware of what I consider the “left” and the “media”. The left are those by word & deed that oppose the Country & that includes the Admin. The MSM aid each. The other factor is that the Establishment Republicans by word and deed do the same thing. Each factor want Romney elected; for different reasons.

So this Republican establishment is part of what you define as the left? I hope I’m reading that wrong.

The chances of Newt winning against B.O. are greater & so they fear him. They know they can beat Romney. (That ad the Union is running in FL? That was their way of telling him, LOL)

Your first two lines are pure baseless conjecture. Moreover, it runs contrary to all available polling data on the hypothetical presidential matchups. Polls this far out aren’t gospel but they also aren’t meaningless and from where we sit right now if it’s Newt vs. Obama then Florida and Ohio are solid blue and Texas is a battleground state. If you’re going to make statements like that then you need to support it with polling data or some recent historical precident or something. Your take on what the union is doing makes no sense at all.

The Establishment Republicans know that also and also know that Newt will remove as much power from them as he can, because unlike those that claim Newt is not a Conservative, they know he is:-) He took power from them before and that’s why they fear him.

Who in this establishment did Newt take power from exactly and when? Why does a Speaker of the House who’s chaotic and disorganized have the ability to take power from this establishment and how did Newt do it? I want some specifics here. What did Newt do, who did it harm and how did it harm them?

Now I’m not saying that Newt would win against B.O. but he is the only one that can. And both the Admin, the left, the MSM & the Establishment R’s know it also. I’ll also add that Newt would definitely win against B.O. if it was a fair election, i.e. no fraud, etc. like 2008.

You’ve gone back to the conjecture. How do you know Newt is the only one who can win. I want data here, not opinion. If the administration, the MSM, the left and that Republican establishment thingy all know it then the incontrovertible proof should be easy for you to come up with.

Hope that makes it easier to understand what I think:-)

bluefox on January 29, 2012 at 9:13 PM

I appreciate the effort. :)

alchemist19 on January 30, 2012 at 5:03 AM

If Romney gets the nod these things are assured: (n0 matter who wins)
Health Care mandate
Abortion
Gun Laws
More Wall Street bailouts
More gov. takeover of business
Expansion of the feds
…and 4 more years of “I inherited a big problem”

right2bright on January 30, 2012 at 9:17 AM

Newt now talking in Tampa on C-SPAN3 and says new polls released in las hour shows Gingrich and Romney tied at 35%

GO NEWT!!!

timberline on January 30, 2012 at 2:56 PM

The Republican party in Delaware is in terminal decline because an undisciplined kook fought the ‘establishment’ and won, only to go on to loose in a landslide to an otherwise very weak and unpopular candidate. As a freedom-loving conservative living in the now hopelessly liberal Delaware, I am glad to see Romney up in the polls by so much; not because I think Romney is a really cool guy, but I live in the results of the alternative. Electability is VERY real, my friends.

naleph on January 30, 2012 at 9:10 PM

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