Reuters/Ipsos poll has Mitt up by 11 in FLA with three days to go
posted at 7:30 pm on January 28, 2012 by Jazz Shaw
We should probably warn you in advance not to get too excited about these results, but they’re popping the cork less than 72 before the polls open in the Sunshine State, so we’ll check in. Reuters/Ipsos finished a three day poll which seems to indicate a continuing trend of Mitt Romney opening up a comfortable lead in Florida.
White House hopeful Mitt Romney widened his lead over rival Newt Gingrich to 11 percentage points in Florida, according to Reuters/Ipsos online poll results on Saturday, up from 8 points a day earlier, as he cemented his front-runner status in the Republican nomination race.
With just three days remaining before Florida’s Republican primary, Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, led Gingrich, a former speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, by 43 percent to 32 percent among likely voters in Florida’s January 31 primary, the online poll said.
He had led Gingrich by 41 percent to 33 percent in the online tracking poll on Friday.
“The momentum in Florida … really seems to be moving in Romney’s direction,” said Chris Jackson, research director for Ipsos Public Affairs.
The poll confirmed that Romney’s fortunes are turning around in Florida a week after a stinging setback when Gingrich scored an upset win in South Carolina’s primary.
First things first, this is yet another online poll, so take that with a grain of salt. Though, to be fair, the technology for online polling is actually beginning to improve as time goes by. But still, as always, we tend to look more at trends than the hard numbers in any given snapshot and this one is trending in the same direction as most of the rest. The combined Real Clear Politics total as of this afternoon actually has Romney up by +8.2 but trending in the same direction.
This may not be terribly shocking news. Even when you roll in the Super PAC money, Romney is outspending the field in Florida’s hugely expensive media market by a fair margin, and that’s got to take a toll eventually. One interesting note, though: while he’s probably still much too far back for any significant chance, the small amount that Newt slipped in this poll from the last outing seems to have gone to Rick Santorum, not Mitt. Santorum bumped up to 16 from 13, which may be yet another sign that disillusioned “Not Mitt” voters are still not entirely ready to “fall in line” with Mr. Inevitable.
We should have three more sets of numbers with live interviews coming – one on Sunday and two on Monday. A roughly ten point gap is certainly not insurmountable in two days time, so we’ll keep an eye out in case any last ditch appeals or fumbles signal a change in the air.
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Which Newt?
/sarc
CW on January 28, 2012 at 8:35 PM
I thought you had been saying Romney is the establishment candidate, so why would your scenario work?
galtani on January 28, 2012 at 8:36 PM
How long before Dr. Gingrich’s followers deny he wrote the newsletters… hmm?
Hyuk, hyuk, hyuk.
M240H on January 28, 2012 at 8:42 PM
Beg to differ. Those conservatives who refuse to vote for a liberal candidate that has been propped up by DC insiders, lied about,has surrogates call conservatives bigots, hobbitts, bible thumpers, red necks who get excited at tent revivals and thus get women in their beds,the entire country club RINO establishment tell half truths about Newt,trot out bimbos to take out Cain,resort to personal destruction of candidates, will be the reason the Obama lite won’t be getting my vote. They expect me to reward them for sliming me. It will be a cold day in hell when that happens. We don’t have to follow the blacks and blindly vote the party.
So, no, it won’t be me who elects Obama, it will be Mittens and the sleaze power hungry DC insiders who have given me a piece of Democrat lite crap to vote for in the last 4 elections by using the same tactics. It’s just been more of a fight this time and they have had to expose themselves.
they lie on January 28, 2012 at 8:42 PM
Real Clear Politics vs Reuters?
Newt +6 tonight
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/
LONG way to go…
golfmann on January 28, 2012 at 8:42 PM
FWIW
Flora Duh on January 28, 2012 at 8:42 PM
The establishment meme seems to be extremely malleable.
Go RBNY on January 28, 2012 at 8:42 PM
I think many in the Tea Party are realizing that the Tea Party should remain for now as a grassroots organization, electing local conservatives where possible. Once it hitches its movement to a national torchbearer then its identity becomes that of the torchbearer, in this case Newt Gingrich. I think everyone deep down realizes that the Freddie Mac Historian is not the right man to carry that torch. IMO, he would do far more to harm the Tea Party’s cause than Mitt Romney. Romney never has been Tea Party and never will, and the Tea Party can continue to affect change independently of a Romney administration. The Tea Party is a generational movement. I appreciate the movement in changing the political discourse of our country and am not ready for it to commit kamikaze with an adulterous scumbag like Newt.
haner on January 28, 2012 at 8:43 PM
HA should ban paid political spammers.
they lie on January 28, 2012 at 8:44 PM
I wonder how much to an extent the tea party endorsement will have an effect along with Palin’s comments. Flora Duh, what area do you live in in florida?
Flapjackmaka on January 28, 2012 at 8:45 PM
Thanks for filling us in. Hmmmm…could make a difference in a close fight if Romney (or Newt) won all 50 initially.
There would be calls to retroactively make it proportional.
Something like this could tear the GOP apart during the summer if nobody has a clear 50%+ of all delegates.
Tear .. it .. apart.
KirknBurker on January 28, 2012 at 8:46 PM
The same Herman Cain who endorsed the people?
they lie on January 28, 2012 at 8:46 PM
i’m sure herman took a second look at callista and changed his mind. wouldn’t you?
GhoulAid on January 28, 2012 at 8:49 PM
Thanks for the post. Cain will endorse Newt tonight. I don’t know if that will be much help or not at this point. Santorum needs to drop out. Whoever he endorses, most of his votes will go to Newt.
Three days is a long time. Go Newt!
Kaffa on January 28, 2012 at 8:49 PM
That torch was expected to be Gov. Palin.
When she did not run, it pretty much left the Tea Party groups without a solid strong candidate to rally 100% behind.
That vacuum has not been filled, and it might not be by the time the GOP winner of the primary is crowned.
Newt is the closest thing to the Tea Party in policy record as is Ron Paul (accepting some extreme foreign policy views).
But there is no Tea Party champion in this fight.
KirknBurker on January 28, 2012 at 8:49 PM
See Newt Robespierre’s star fall from the sky
Every conservative dream he spun was a lie
Just see how trusting him has repaid you
If you turn, again he will betray you
Here’s the one bitter lesson of his history
His soul should no longer be a mystery
His many words and faces change
What you thought you knew grows ever more strange
And he has so many faces
His real self erases
With all those lies
Dancing in his eyes!
Next time, betray him first
And the game’s reversed!
PercyB on January 28, 2012 at 8:51 PM
Newt IS the people. He is the distillation of 300 million Americans. He is simultaneously the 1% and the OWS protester; he is at the same time the serial adulterer and the last guardian of the sanctity of marriage for Western civilization.
haner on January 28, 2012 at 8:52 PM
Allen West on C-SPAN right now hitting… it… out… of… the…. park!
Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2012 at 8:52 PM
On the Nature Coast, about 75 miles north of Tampa.
Flora Duh on January 28, 2012 at 8:55 PM
If nothing else, this election has shown the lengths to which the establishment Republicans will go to get their anointed one nominated. Maybe this is the reason Sarah Palin decided not to run.
Having seen the candidates that they continually saddle us with, after this election it is time for the Tea Party to get serious about becoming a third party and running candidates, first at the congressional level, then at the presidential level. Maybe not in 2016, but 2020 or 2024, assuming that Obama, the democrats and the RINOs don’t destroy the republic before then.
They continually point to Goldwater as the reason a conservative can’t win while ignoring the Reagan landslides and the drubbing Ford received.
It looks more and more like the establishment GOP has become equally as complicit in this encroaching statism and they are not willing to relinquish any government power.
AZfederalist on January 28, 2012 at 8:56 PM
How are things ing the blogger boiler room tonight?
whbates on January 28, 2012 at 8:56 PM
That is earth shaking. And will move a lot of the swing ( or is it swingers?) votes.
galtani on January 28, 2012 at 8:57 PM
Wow, you must be close
whbates on January 28, 2012 at 8:58 PM
What’s the ground look like? Media market? Will the results match polls or will they be a squeaker?
Flapjackmaka on January 28, 2012 at 8:58 PM
I’m om FL DEAD HEAT here tonight–http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/article/238481/483/Exclusive-Poll-Gingrich-Romney-in-Dead-Heat-Statewide?fb_ref=artsharetop
Bullhead on January 28, 2012 at 8:59 PM
I hope I’m wrong about Mitt, but if he wins the Presidency, I’m thinking he morphs into a do-nothing, libtard-pandering RINO, or loses the Presidency because of lack of interest with the base. If I’m right, I hope that Ann Coulter gets shamed.
Decoski on January 28, 2012 at 8:59 PM
Old mcdonald had a poll eieio
and on the poll he had some numbers eieio
with a poll poll here and a poll poll there.
old mcdonald had a poll eieio
gerry-moderate republican -mittbot-i do believe i’m going nuts
gerrym51 on January 28, 2012 at 9:00 PM
de rigueur on January 28, 2012 at 9:02 PM
Just to clear up the formatting:
No, I don’t believe I’ve opined on that point. They’re both members of the Republican Party and have held powerful positions in elected office. And they’ve both been out of office for a long time, Newt longer than Mitt. But both have strong ties to the current shakers and movers, Mitt obviously more than Newt, even leaving aside Bob Dole.
But I guess if the RNC committee has to make a ruling on a challenge, we’ll all find out who the establishment candidate really is, won’t we?
de rigueur on January 28, 2012 at 9:03 PM
Dude, are Newt supporters really this dense?
First of all, the article was published yesterday, so not “tonight.”
Secondly, that poll was conducted early in the week. The publish date != sampling dates.
!= –> does not equal (just in case).
haner on January 28, 2012 at 9:05 PM
On the ground, I’m hearing more support for Gingrich. The media however is out of the more liberal area of the I-4 corridor. They’re reporting mostly the same thing the national media is.
Romney definitely has more media saturation as far as TV and radio advertising. And I’ve gotten robocalls and mailers from either him or his PAC all week.
Just received my first mailer from the Gingrich campaign today.
Flora Duh on January 28, 2012 at 9:07 PM
Citrus
Flora Duh on January 28, 2012 at 9:08 PM
Sarah Palin is the one person who could bring together both libertarians and conservatives together in 2013 to start a new party:
The American Party
She will not insist on being its first Chairman, and she will not run in its first primary for the Presidential election.
But, she still has enough capital to simply call a third-party summit of leaders all over the country and step back and let it grow.
Meeting at the precinct and county levels to draft bylaws and hold local votes for county leaders, etc.
They could field a candidate by 2016 for the Presidency.
If there is one thing I’ve noticed it is that the two party’s are at their lows right now.
The opening is there. I think she could light the fuse and then it will grow.
The GOP would eventually fade out and they would have to spend lots of time to recapture the new party which would take a lot of time.
KirknBurker on January 28, 2012 at 9:09 PM
Didnt his tv ads just start playing. I hope his turnout is greater than Romney’s
Flapjackmaka on January 28, 2012 at 9:09 PM
I’ve only seen his ad a couple of times since yesterday.
There’s no doubt about it, the Romney camp has definitely won the media saturation battle.
Flora Duh on January 28, 2012 at 9:15 PM
as opposed to being in the air. are you laying flat
gerrym51 on January 28, 2012 at 9:16 PM
Me too, LOL it’s a small world
whbates on January 28, 2012 at 9:18 PM
huh, huh. You made a funnnny. Hope you didn’t have to strain too hard to come up with that brilliant quip.
I was asked what I’m hearing in my area from the people, I answered. So sorry it wasn’t what you would have liked.
But hey, if it will make you happy.
GO MITT!!
gerrym51 on January 28, 2012 at 9:16 PM
Flora Duh on January 28, 2012 at 9:25 PM
When leaving the early polling center yesterday, I got polled on my cell phone (what is the chances of that). My cell doesn’t have a FL area code, and the area code of my cell has already voted in the R primary? Seems odd, which camp has the money to conduct such a poll? My cell is listed as my home phone on county records however. Just seems strange.
whbates on January 28, 2012 at 9:25 PM
I’ve been voting in FL since 1979. Not once have I been polled by telephone.
Flora Duh on January 28, 2012 at 9:27 PM
Thanks, Newt!
captn2fat on January 28, 2012 at 9:27 PM
…and Gingrich is the conservative ego made flesh!
captn2fat on January 28, 2012 at 9:33 PM
Don’t get cocky. The problem with that story is that it argues that after the bruising primary with Shrillery, Obama was toughened up and went on to “beat” McCain. He didn’t beat McCain; the times — and McCain — beat McCain. McCain ran a terrible campaign and handed the win to Obama. Now one would think that the times now would be just as favorable to a GOP candidate, but they aren’t. Things are worse now than they were in 2008 when the media was running one breathless story after another about the “Republican financial crisis,” but we aren’t getting any breathless stories about Obama’s meltdown of the American economy. The Republican candidate is going to have to tell that story himself. That’s a bit taller order than Obama had in 2008 when the media was ushering him into office.
Rational Thought on January 28, 2012 at 9:42 PM
The Gallup poll cited favoring Newt by 6pts. is a national poll of all Republicans. It has nothing to do with FL polling.
writeblock on January 28, 2012 at 9:43 PM
From one lame cheater to another.
BettyRuth on January 28, 2012 at 9:44 PM
Any Mitt-bot want to take cash money bets on who wins if McRomney is nominated?
Romney WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT
M_J_S on January 28, 2012 at 9:44 PM
Anybody quoting the Newt +6 national Gallup poll – this is a nationwide survey that reflects SC results. It is meaningless. All of the valid FL post-debate polls are uniformly showing a Romney lead of 7 to 10 points.
Decoski: Romney will govern Right-Center consistent w his mandate. You dance w those who brung ya in this business. If he doesn’t he’ll face a fatal primary challenge in 2016. Romney is not stupid; he wants to be a 2-term president and will govern accordingly. He knows that we have to cut spending, enact entitlement reform, and much more.
matthew8787 on January 28, 2012 at 9:45 PM
I really don’t think the Tea Partiers are that short-sighted and petulant. I believe that just like myself and most other conservatives they will come out and support whoever the nominee is, because to sit it out is tantamount to voting for Obama.
Nice try though!
captn2fat on January 28, 2012 at 9:49 PM
Thanks, I didn’t see that, although FL is very similar to a cross section of the USA except….. for Debbie Downer… :/
It’s far from over. I wonder how many more smears Mitt has to go with now?
I’ll believe Mitts up when I finally hear he drew a crowd somewhere he didn’t hire! :)
golfmann on January 28, 2012 at 9:56 PM
McCain lost because he had one issue in his favor–national defense. When the bottom dropped out of the economy, he was at a loss to know what to do or say because he was a fiscal illiterate. The fact that he wasn’t screened out for his ignorance of economics really illustrates what’s wrong with our nominating system. It care passionately about social issues, but is lackadaisical about fiscal issues. It continually opposes NE fiscal conservatives–they’re never pure enough. 2012 is a replay of 2008.
writeblock on January 28, 2012 at 10:00 PM
Not one cent, calorie burned, second will I waste on Romney in the general.
I will support Scott Walker in his recall election, hoping he wins and then eventually gets on the radar for 2016.
I will also keep an eye out for Rand Paul.
Romney not only will not win, even if he did, he will govern with no serious reforms that are necessary to prevent us from reaching the point of no return from an eventual European socialist state which is the best system out there for the elite to control us.
The GOP Establishment wants this country to eventually be Europe because that is the system that will allow them to thrive at our expense.
KirknBurker on January 28, 2012 at 10:01 PM
Why do you say such drivel?
There is no such thing as a fiscon new englander.
Those are ‘moderates’ at best.
KirknBurker on January 28, 2012 at 10:02 PM
Michigan Faith & Freedom Coalition
Senator Rick Santorum’s daughter Bella has been admitted to the hospital. Reports are that he has left the campaign trail in Florida to return home to PA. Our thoughts and prayers are with Bella and the Santorum family.
Bullhead on January 28, 2012 at 10:05 PM
See the dewy-eyed Mittbot singing lyrics of a fool
Speaks of betrayal and lies and multi-faceted faces
Lyric in form but propaganda in aim
Pseudo-psycho piffle, spouting flim flam and wishful thought
kenny on January 28, 2012 at 10:06 PM
I have to assume you’re joking here. Herman Cain’s endorsement is like Donald Trumps at this point. Nothing but a sad joke.
BettyRuth on January 28, 2012 at 10:07 PM
Herman Cain…I thought he had already endorsed Stephen Colbert, or Gloria Allred, or something.
I can definitely see where he would endorse Newt, though, given their similar approach to life and…other stuff. And, of course, Herman Cain had the 9-9-9 plan, and Newt Gingrich has Plan 9 From Outer Space. It only makes sense, really, when you think about it.
captn2fat on January 28, 2012 at 10:09 PM
When an elite candidate is nominated the conservatives are suppose to hold their nose and vote for them – anybody but Obama. But when a conservative candidate is nominated i.e. Joe Miller in Alaska The elites will not support them. They even vote for the dems i.e. Murkowski’s write in vote, Christine O’Donnell and Karl Rove, etc.
No. Not anymore. Not me.
Kaffa on January 28, 2012 at 10:14 PM
captn2fat,
This is one Florida conservative who will NOT be voting for Mittbama. And should Mittbama become the nominee I will willingly stay home and not even vote for the entire GOP down ticket.
Screw the Bush GOP elites.
Jayrae on January 28, 2012 at 10:21 PM
That polling data is from jan. 22 to jan.26 which means almost all was pre-debate.
Expect the numbers to change and not towards Newt.
Zybalto on January 28, 2012 at 10:26 PM
that was funny
gerrym51 on January 28, 2012 at 10:28 PM
You make a valid point, Rational. Which is why we need all hands on deck. No one should sit this one out!
C’mon. The lesser of two evils is still less evil! Even if it means that voting for the nominee means just slowing down the decline, isn’t that better than the alternative? It would seem to me that to say otherwise is to engage in a kind of political nihilism.
captn2fat on January 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM
Isn’t that ultimately self-defeating? There never has been and there never will be a perfect candidate. If our candidate is only 1% better than Obama, it makes sense to vote for him because at least there will be 1% less harm done to the country we all love. I personally like Mitt and loathe Gingrich, but I’ll vote for Newt over Obama, because less harm will be done.
captn2fat on January 28, 2012 at 10:40 PM
captn2fat
http://legalinsurrection.com/2012/01/romney-is-winning-his-battles-but-losing-our-war/
No it’s personal. Mittbama stinks on ice and so do his supporters. There is a rift it the party that was created by the Mittbama-bots adopting the DNC’s “scorched earth” tactics. Mittbama can’t win. It’s over. Conservatives will stay home.
But that was the plan all along by the GOP elites. After 8 years of Obama we will be ready for another Bush, Jeb. Ain’t going to happen.
Jayrae on January 28, 2012 at 11:02 PM
No one cares.
haner on January 28, 2012 at 11:03 PM
Bashing capitalism is not scorched earth? Do you even know what scorched earth means? Scorched earth is not attacking Newt as an ethically challenged scumbag. Scorched earth is using OWS rhetoric to not only bash Romney but the GOP platform.
haner on January 28, 2012 at 11:06 PM
Thanks for the bellylaugh – funniest post of the night.
independentvoice on January 28, 2012 at 11:09 PM
I’ve only been in this area since 2005, and have never been polled on a cell phone anywhere I’ve been? Just seemed very strange.
whbates on January 28, 2012 at 11:21 PM
Jayrae’s link reminded me of something:
Prescient, no?
captn2fat on January 29, 2012 at 12:26 AM
Look, there’s plenty of “scorched earth” to go around; I didn’t like Gingrich’s attacks on capitalism any more than you like the stuff Mitt’s said about your guy, but I’ll still vote for Gingrich if he is the nominee, because the alternative’s Obama! It seems like the mature thing to do.
captn2fat on January 29, 2012 at 12:32 AM
This Floridian is voting for Newt, not Mitt Obamneycare, but at this point I think Romney has a bit of an edge. Early voting has been going on for a while and both candidates have been up at various times. I think Romney is probably sitting on a 5-8 point lead right now.
Hope it changes though.
But Florida doesn’t end this.
Malachi45 on January 29, 2012 at 12:50 AM
I see the same old people with the same old lies… you are still here hating Mitt Romney… what a life you must live.
Well the best indicator is the Florida Primary Intrade numbers:
93% chance for Mitt, the sane one, and his lovely family.
5% chance for the embodiment of hypocrisy, mental instablity, and infidelty as the “normal” and preferred teaching of American Christians.
petunia on January 29, 2012 at 1:20 AM
captn2fat on January 29, 2012 at 12:32 AM
Really that is the mature do to do?
If Newt Gingrich wins it means: The Republican Party is a party who completely rejects capitalism, and family values as planks in the Republican Party.
It is the mature thing to do to give up all your principles? Really? Or is it mature to recognize there is no rhyme or reason to the policies of the Republican Party and it is time to move on.
I’m sorry lip service to conservatism is not enough. Pretenders like Sarah Palin and Herman Cain a symptoms of the hollow shell the Party has become.
I will vote for no one… or possibly the more conservative one… Obama, with his nice family and more conservative financal policies.
You can bet that if looks like that lunatik is going to win I will vote for and campaign for Barack Obama.
Four more years of this is worth keeping a lunatik out of the Whitehouse.
Fly me to the moon… la la la la la….
petunia on January 29, 2012 at 1:27 AM
Well, somebody here is a lunatic.
Malachi45 on January 29, 2012 at 1:53 AM
My informal Florida polling amongst people I deal with on the job says roughly Gingrich 60%, Romney 30%, and Paul and Santorum splitting the change, with a bigger share going to Paul. However, this unscientific polling data is heavily influenced by alcohol, and is anecdotal at best.
FWIW, I meet very, very few Obama supporters…
PointnClick on January 29, 2012 at 6:25 AM
I’m having a hard time understanding why conservatives who are so completely sick of their party trying to appease the left, are considering supporting a man whose sole political achievement was to be elected governor running as a Progressive.
Don’t you folks realize that political talk is cheap, and that you have to judge politicians by their performance?
Mitt Romney’s ACU rating as governor of Massachusetts was 55. That’s not nearly as bad as Obama, but it’s not conservative. It’s not even really right of center. Just because he’s selling himself as a conservative to win the nomination, do you really think he’s going to govern from the right, when the last time he did it, he governed from the center?
For the record, Newt Gingrich’s ACU rating while serving in the House was 90, and Rick Santorum’s ACU rating while serving in the Senate was 84.
philwynk on January 29, 2012 at 7:35 AM
Conservatives threw Newt out for good reasons. Learn them.
Adjoran on January 29, 2012 at 8:11 AM
They lie hates the facts and ignores them. Why is that?
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Latest from Rasmussen..yes and after the debates(Sheesh)…
CW on January 29, 2012 at 8:50 AM
The ranking of the candidates by a Conservative Libertarian from first to last: Paul (Small Government Libertarian R), Santorum (Big Government Social Conservative R), Gingrich (Big Government Moderate Conservative R), Romney (Big Government European Socialist R). So naturally, the order by everyone else (See present FL polls.) is exactly reversed. Proof positive America is not the center right Nation the Polls tell us it is; unless of course, the center is explained/described truthfully as where it actually resides–Marxism.
aposematic on January 29, 2012 at 9:38 AM
I’m not sure I agree with your conclusion, however, I do believe, based on this primary, that people are being lead by daily polls, as well as opinion journalism. Even conservative talk radio and blogs are guilty of misleading information and lies, as Ann Coulter, Laura Ingraham and Drudge have shown.
The Republican Party is not the place for conservatives. It might be time for the Tea Party to become nationally organized with leaders that represents conservatives and libertarians who are now the majority of independents. I know I am through with the Republican Party. If Romney is the candidate, the country will not be better off no matter who wins the general election. I don’t understand Florida voters who have a huge majority of retirees. Why would they vote for someone who is responsible for Romneycare and Obamacare to restructure Medicare and Social Security. God help us.
lea on January 29, 2012 at 12:22 PM
I think you are wrong because many conservatives believe there is no difference between Romney and Obama. I am changing my party status from Republican to unaffiliated with after our caucus, and will never vote for a Republican again.
lea on January 29, 2012 at 12:33 PM
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