McCain: Let’s face it, there was some sort of anti-Mormon element to that South Carolina vote

posted at 2:50 pm on January 28, 2012 by Allahpundit

A little token of affection for South Carolinians from the guy they chose over Mitt Romney four years ago.

“We haven’t had time to do a real analysis of the Romney race in South Carolina, but once we break that down, there was some element of anti-Mormonism in that vote,” McCain asserted. “I’m not saying all of it, but there were elements there. There was nothing that Mitt Romney could have done.”

Could that bias, if it exists, extend beyond the Palmetto State to others in the South if the primary drags on? “I’m not sure [but] I don’t think so,” McCain said, pointing to Georgia as one place he doesn’t believe would hold Romney’s religion against him.

McCain cited the possible anti-Mormonism in response to a query about the growing Tea Party support Gingrich has begun to draw, particularly in Florida.

Interesting that it was a question about tea partiers that spurred Maverick to raise the possibility of religious prejudice; I wonder what his former running mate thinks of that. Note that he’s careful here not to allege that anti-Mormonism was decisive in Gingrich’s win, but if he didn’t think it was a significant factor he wouldn’t have brought it up. Is he right? Well, go back and look at the polls in SC over the final week of the campaign. On January 16, just five days before the primary, Rasmussen had Romney up by 14 points. The Fox News debate with the exchange between Newt and Juan Williams was held that night; two days later, Politico’s new poll found Romney’s lead cut in half. That was the last poll in which Gingrich trailed. Other polls taken on the 18th showed him leading Romney narrowly and then, after the CNN debate on the 19th in which he unloaded on John King, his numbers took off and he ended up winning by 13 points. Was anti-Mormonism a major contributing factor to a 27-point swing in five days even though no one of any significance was talking about Romney’s faith? Seriously?

To the extent that McCain is basing this on anything, I think he’s extrapolating from the exit-poll data. This data set got some attention on election night:

Romney finishes dead last among the “a great deal” crowd. But is that because they’re anti-Mormon specifically or just pro-Christian generally? You’d expect devout believers of any religious group to have a preference for candidates who share their faith, and in this case Romney’s being squeezed between the frontrunner and a famously socially conservative Christian candidate in Santorum. In fact, he actually finished second, ahead of Santorum, among evangelicals:

He does markedly better among non-evangelicals, but that gets us into the question of how much these religious demographics overlap with ideological demographics. Do evangelicals prefer Newt because he’s not a Mormon or do evangelicals prefer Newt because they tend to be more conservative generally and think Newt is more conservative than Romney? More data:

Would have been nice if the pollsters had included religious beliefs as an option there, but note how well Newt performs in three of these categories. He won the race by 13 points but he’s 15 points ahead on experience, 36 points ahead on conservative convictions, and he’s got a clear majority on the crucial issue of electability. (Newt himself attributed his win to changing perceptions of which candidate is most electable.) The only category in which he collapses is moral character. If there was some strong current of anti-Mormon sentiment out there on election day, how likely is it that it would have gravitated to the guy who finished rock bottom in the “character” department? Or is McCain suggesting that the hypothetical anti-Mormon voters who would have/should have otherwise gone to Mitt actually flowed to Santorum? Hard for me to believe that Santorum’s voters would have broken for the guy from Massachusetts who was pro-choice until about five years ago, but oh well.

One more data point:

I think that’s the real snapshot of who won and why. The further right you go on the ideological spectrum, the more appealing Newt is vis-a-vis Romney. Nothing surprising about that, from the contrast between Gingrich’s budget-balancing as Speaker and Romney’s enactment of RomneyCare in Massachusetts to Gingrich’s populist tactics of hammering “media elites” to the yawning gap in their respective abilities to articulate the conservative vision. There’s a reason why Mark Steyn’s parody of Romney’s stump speech resonated with so many readers, after all, and it ain’t because they’re anti-Mormon. But nice job by McCain to inject this poisonous issue into an already bitter primary. It’s simultaneously insulting to the heavy majority of primary voters who have nothing against Romney’s faith and risky for Mitt insofar as it introduces the subject to some in the small minority who might. Dumb.

Update: Here’s Gallup’s national poll on anti-Mormon sentiment from last June. There are, assuredly, some Republicans who won’t vote for Romney because of his faith — although, if Gallup is right, anti-Mormon sentiment is higher among Democrats (and independents) than it is among the GOP. Nationally, 18 percent of Republicans say they wouldn’t vote for a Mormon, but that’s in the abstract, not in the context of a specific choice between two or three candidates. Remember that even Robert Jeffress, who called Mormonism a “cult,” said that he’d support Romney over Obama if forced to. There may be some voters who would prefer not to vote for a Mormon but who end up voting for Mitt in the primaries anyway simply because they find Gingrich and Santorum unelectable and/or otherwise unacceptable.

In any case, I’m not sure why McCain seems to think this problem is especially significant in South Carolina, even vis-a-vis other southern states like Georgia. The south wasn’t even the region that polled highest for anti-Mormon sentiment in Gallup’s poll. It was the midwest, at 26 percent.


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Are you telling me that McCain is still alive?!
Thank goodness we still have HotAir to tell us so! (/S)

Czar of Defenestration on January 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Mitt Romney delivered a new zinger against Newt Gingrich in an event in Orlando just now, mocking him over his complaints about this week’s debates. “I had fun last night, I gotta tell you,” Romney said. “Now Speaker Gingrich said after the debate before last night that the crowd wasnt allowed to cheer so he couldn’t do so well because the crowd was too quiet.

“Then last night he said the crowd was too loud, he couldn’t deal with it. It’s like Goldilocks, you know – the porridge is too hot, the porridge is too cold. Look, I’m looking forward to debating Barack Obama. I don’t worry too much about the crowd. I’ve got to make sure we tell the truth to Barack Obama and get him out of the White House.”

haner on January 28, 2012 at 2:53 PM

second:-)

bluefox on January 28, 2012 at 2:54 PM

third? LOL

bluefox on January 28, 2012 at 2:54 PM

I liked McCain better as Grandpa on the Munsters.

Terp Mole on January 28, 2012 at 2:54 PM

What is the point of rehashing the 08 nominating process now? Oh wait, McCain is claiming then it was good judgement but now it is some kind of bigotry?

Seriously, why couldn’t he have pulled a Dole and left his seat to campaign and then dropped off the face of the Earth for over a decade after his beat down?

Betenoire on January 28, 2012 at 2:54 PM

I’m a mitt fan but I do not believe mitt lost SC because of mormonism. Newt had 2 hot debates with great sound bites that moved SC voters who i agree were not Hot for Romney in the first place. but I don’t think mormonism was a big reason.

gerrym51 on January 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM

But nice job by McCain to inject this poisonous issue into an already bitter primary.

“You knew I was a snake when you placed me on your back.”

Kent18 on January 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM

It was more of an anti-milquetoast vote, Romney 2012 = McCain 2008.

Harbingeing on January 28, 2012 at 2:55 PM

But at least we’re lucky there’s no anti-Evangelical or anti-Catholic voters in America…oh wait….

RBMN on January 28, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Yeah, this is silly. Are there some voters out there who are anti-Mormon? Sure, but not as many as some people think (talking to you, Senator McCain). The fact of the matter is, after Nikki Haley’s endorsement, Romney went up by double digits. He proceeded to fumble questions about his tax returns, Newt had that debate moment with John King, and that’s all she wrote. As a Romney supporter, there’s no one to blame for Romney’s loss in SC than the candidate himself.

GOPRanknFile on January 28, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Pathetic. The Garafolo strategy

Southernblogger on January 28, 2012 at 2:57 PM

And when Gingrich called Obama the food stamp president, there was a racist undertone.

All these undertones and code words. Need my old Secret Decoder Ring to see them.

Wethal on January 28, 2012 at 2:57 PM

I do not believe that his faith had anything to do with it.

Gingrich just had a couple of good debates as Romney did this last week.

It will start to get more difficult for Gingrich as we move into other States that he is not so popular.

g2825m on January 28, 2012 at 2:59 PM

McCain: Mitt the most important thing is to concede the election gracefully.

Mitt: I vow to uphold the standards of Bob Dole/John McCain.

Southernblogger on January 28, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Romney lost SC because of the debates, plain simple.

Newt will lose FL because of the debates.

The debates have been everything this season.

haner on January 28, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Why not just say they’re “agents of intolerance,” John?

That worked so well for you, didn’t it?

Wethal on January 28, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Meanwhile, in an alternate universe;

We haven’t had time to do a real analysis of the Santorum race in South Carolina New Hampshire, but once we break that down, there was some element of anti-Mormonism anti-evangelicalism in that vote,” McCain asserted.

What a dope.

Terp Mole on January 28, 2012 at 3:00 PM

McCain cited the possible anti-Mormonism in response to a query about the growing Tea Party support Gingrich has begun to draw, particularly in Florida.

Oh, the Tea Party members are anti-Mormon? I guess any excuse will work when you are trying to smear your opponent. Probably make voters to rush right out and vote Romney.

What a sick comment.

bluefox on January 28, 2012 at 3:00 PM

80% of the Democrat party is anti-christian..

Shain1611 on January 28, 2012 at 3:00 PM

So McCain is playing the bigotry card now. Yeah, because people who don’t want Romney MUST be Mormon haters. Because people who don’t want Obama MUST be racists, right? It just can’t be anything in either man’s character that’s turning people off, can it?

Aitch748 on January 28, 2012 at 3:01 PM

McCain’s namesake is on legislation that abridged free speech. He may have served honorably in uniform, but he has been a travesty at capitol hill.

tom daschle concerned on January 28, 2012 at 3:01 PM

My god these RINOs are scurrilous.
Four and a half more years of McCain. That is a painful thought.

GaltBlvnAtty on January 28, 2012 at 3:02 PM

I’m sure he’s right.

Random on January 28, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Dumb move McCain.

drballard on January 28, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Dear john, the only reason I voted for you last time was a vote against bho! I am sick to death of all this krap between ours running and not against bho! And, I heard or read someplace a few days ago, the good ole boy r’s are warning those running not to go after bho too much! Might hurt bho’s thin skin feelings you know and be labeled a racist by bho, team, and bhopress?
L

letget on January 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM

What would mavericks mother say….

drballard on January 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM

And when Gingrich called Obama the food stamp president, there was a racist undertone.

All these undertones and code words. Need my old Secret Decoder Ring to see them.

Wethal on January 28, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Well, if you saw a racist undertone, it was against white people, since more of white people are on foods stamps than other races.

Anyone looking for a racist undertone, can find it in most anything nowadays.

bluefox on January 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Great pic. More conservative-hating McCain on the trail!

Valiant on January 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM

God forbid people who have nothing to do with the primary race stay quiet until there’s a nominee then support him instead of splitting the Republican party apart with stupid comments like this….

Cyhort on January 28, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Juan McCain: fight with me. fight, fight, fight. there’s nothing to fear from an Obama presidency, but fight with me, fight, fight, fight. and get my daughter some twinkies!

GhoulAid on January 28, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Dumb move McCain.

drballard on January 28, 2012 at 3:02 PM

He has other moves?

Who knew…

Bruno Strozek on January 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM

“Yeah, because people who don’t want Romney MUST be Mormon haters.”

Not all people. Some people (and “haters” is overblown in most cases). I’ve been saying for months that some conservative Christian voters’ preference for a Christian and disapproval (which they have every right to if they choose) of Mormonism will cost Mitt some votes.

Obviously.

I support Newt by the way.

Random on January 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM

Oh, I think it was a contributing factor, even here on Hotair I’ve seen some people state they couldn’t vote for a Mormon. It’s impossible to tell how MUCH of a factor though. Did it cost him 1%, 10%, kinda hard to say seeing as there are different degrees of bias, both overt and subconscious.

Regardless, while this may be a fascinating topic for academic discussion, it probably isn’t actually, “helpful,” during the GOP primary. Honestly I just want to get this whole thing over with so we can get to the process of healing.

WolvenOne on January 28, 2012 at 3:05 PM

McCain’s namesake is on legislation that abridged free speech. He may have served honorably in uniform, but he has been a travesty at capitol hill.

tom daschle concerned on January 28, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Oh, who was looking for the Establishment Republicans? Well, McCain is one of many.

McCain/Fiengold-against free speech. McCain-Kennedy-Amnesty

There are more…

bluefox on January 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM

So Mitt Romney is now stating that if anyone doesn’t vote for him, they’re a bigot who hates Mormons.

The man is an idiot.

northdallasthirty on January 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Yeah…

… This proves that Mittens is the true Conservative in this race.

/

Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2012 at 3:07 PM

With the notable exception of J. William Bottomtooth, RINOs (like McCain) remain too intellectually bankrupt and empty-headed to answer Professor Sowell’s salient question.

Thomas Sowell: “Can you name one important positive thing that Romney accomplished as governor of Massachusetts? Can anyone?“

anyone? Beuhler? Beuhler?

*crickets chirp*

Terp Mole on January 28, 2012 at 3:08 PM

But nice job by McCain to inject this poisonous issue into an already bitter primary. It’s simultaneously insulting to the heavy majority of primary voters who have nothing against Romney’s faith and risky for Mitt insofar as it introduces the subject to some in the small minority who might. Dumb.

McCain again displays his deft and subtle touch at political messaging. Romney needs to distance himself from McCain to the extent possible. There is little to be gained from the support of the not-so-popular Maverick, who will say other unhelpful if not truly damaging things before this election season is over.

novaculus on January 28, 2012 at 3:08 PM

So Mitt Romney is now stating that if anyone doesn’t vote for him, they’re a bigot who hates Mormons.

The man is an idiot.

northdallasthirty on January 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Try reading next time.

GOPRanknFile on January 28, 2012 at 3:08 PM

McCain doing his part to guarantee another loss for Mitt. Oh yeah, Johnny Mac is good, real good. Keep talking. You’re the main man Johnny Mac the media adores you.

Bmore on January 28, 2012 at 3:08 PM

And we all know it’s pointless to ask Meggie Big Mac to do anything about Grandpa Simpson, here.

M240H on January 28, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Now that he isn’t running against Obama, McCain is mavericky loved by the press corpse (not a mistake) again.

cozmo on January 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Who does the GOP represent..?

d1carter on January 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Oh, I think it was a contributing factor

Oh, there are definitely some people who won’t vote for Mormons. Gallup polled this a while back. But McCain wants people to think it was determinative. No reason to believe that.

Allahpundit on January 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Anyone looking for a racist undertone, can find it in most anything nowadays.

bluefox on January 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM

The Dems did, not I. That was their criticism of Gingrich for saying this.

Wethal on January 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Hey look, Palin’s second banana has something crazy to say.

Shut up RINO loser.

fogw on January 28, 2012 at 3:10 PM

It’s obvious that AP and Jazz aren’t pulling any punches against Romney and somewhat fawning over Newt. So should we start calling Romney the anti-establishment choice of HotAir? Is the establishment HotAir bloggers trying to “crucify” Romney?

luckedout26 on January 28, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Good grief! When and if Romney wins the nomination, that will be when the anti-Mormonism comes into play. The left are total bigots against Christianity in general, but Mormonism will be excoriated! Just wait. They can’t help themselves.

JAM on January 28, 2012 at 3:11 PM

RINOS for RINOS!

balkanmom on January 28, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Are you telling me that McCain is still alive?!

I liked McCain better as Grandpa on the Munsters.

Mitt: I vow to uphold the standards of Bob Dole/John McCain.

It’s amazing that people are now suddenly saying McCain is “too old”, and comparing him to the other “old guy”, Dole.

Remember, folks, when McCain ran in 2008 he was only 3 years older than Gingrich is now.

And stats show that McCain’s age was a factor in him losing to O’bama.

Newt will meet the same fate if by some wild-assed chance he wins the nomination.

Del Dolemonte on January 28, 2012 at 3:11 PM

Words can’t describe the boiling hatred I have for McCain. And I don’t want to hear about his “military service” BS. Good service 40 years ago doesn’t excuse betrayal today.

jubalearly on January 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM

South Carolinians could not care less if Romney was a Mormon or that both Santorum or Gingrich were Catholic. McCain has a sore spot in his heart for South Carolina and his defeat in 2000.

SC.Charlie on January 28, 2012 at 3:12 PM

How’s the fence coming, John…?

Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2012 at 3:13 PM

So Mitt Romney is now stating that if anyone doesn’t vote for him, they’re a bigot who hates Mormons.

The man is an idiot.

northdallasthirty on January 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM

All you Tea Party members, listen up. I think this will hurt Romney.

This campaign is more nasty than the 2008.

bluefox on January 28, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Real question and I want a honest answer, When Romney is President and says “God bless America”… which god are you praying too?

apocalypse on January 28, 2012 at 3:13 PM

So Mitt Romney is now stating that if anyone doesn’t vote for him, they’re a bigot who hates Mormons.

The man is an idiot.

northdallasthirty on January 28, 2012 at 3:06 PM

Honestly, did you read the post?

RightWay79 on January 28, 2012 at 3:14 PM

But nice job by McCain to inject this poisonous issue into an already bitter primary. It’s simultaneously insulting to the heavy majority of primary voters who have nothing against Romney’s faith and risky for Mitt insofar as it introduces the subject to some in the small minority who might. Dumb.

Insofar as primaries are a proving ground for general election candidates, I don’t think it’s so dumb. Liberal democrats like Barack Obama are the most bigoted people I have ever known. If Mitt gets the nom, the Obama camp will be pushing anti-Mormon bigotry very hard. Oh, they’ll try to be clever about it and maintain some sort of plausible deniablity, but it will be a big, big part of his campaign against Romney. Look for all of the networks, for example, to have “Mormon polygamy” movies airing just before the election. Mitt ought to be ready for the onslaught and figure out how he’s going to respond.

Rational Thought on January 28, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Try reading next time.

GOPRanknFile on January 28, 2012 at 3:08 PM

I did. And that’s why I said what I did: Mitt Romney is now stating that if anyone doesn’t vote for him, they’re a bigot who hates Mormons.

northdallasthirty on January 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM

The Dems did, not I. That was their criticism of Gingrich for saying this.

Wethal on January 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Oh, ok:-) I thot you were agreeing with that. Glad you cleared it up!

bluefox on January 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Commands from the Ruling Class Republican Establishment (with help from their pals: the d-cRAT socialists and their stooges/puppets in the socialist media):

There is nothing wrong with your mind. Do not attempt to think for yourself. We are controlling the information provided for the Republican primaries. If we wish to destroy a conservative, we will bring up the volume of attacks. If we wish to support a RINO, we will tune it to a pleasant sound. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image of a conservative, make it flutter. We can change the focus of a conservative to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity for an establishment RINO. For the remainder of the primary season, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your mind. You are about to participate in a great adventure – the approval of the RINO that we establishment clowns have selected to win the nomination. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to… ANOTHER RULING-CLASS ESTABLISHMENT CANDIDATE LOSER.

We, the Ruling-Class Repub Establishment, hereby command you to support our candidate, RINO romney(care), who will, without doubt, also lose in the general election like our other candidates mccain, dole, george h.w. bush, ford….

TeaPartyNation on January 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Honestly, did you read the post?

RightWay79 on January 28, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Yes, I did.

Mitt Romney is stating that anyone who votes for someone other than him is an anti-Mormon bigot.

You can try to spin all you want, but that is exactly what Mitt Romney is saying through his idiot blabbering mouthpiece McCain.

And I am done with it. Mitt Romney wants to call me a bigot, I call him a liar.

northdallasthirty on January 28, 2012 at 3:19 PM

McCain cited the possible anti-Mormonism in response to a query about the growing Tea Party support Gingrich has begun to draw, particularly in Florida.

In fact, Newt has locked in the Tea Party AND the 9-12 votes. Mitt will lose on Tuesday. Sorry, Mittbots we’re just not into socialism lite.

Key West Reader on January 28, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Are you telling me that McCain is still alive?!

Czar of Defenestration on January 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Heck yeah, he’s alive. He’s just been busy building the danged fence. /

Fallon on January 28, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Could that bias, if it exists, extend beyond the Palmetto State to others in the South if the primary drags on? “I’m not sure [but] I don’t think so,” McCain said, pointing to Georgia as one place he doesn’t believe would hold Romney’s religion against him.

May I ask what Georgia did to get a bigot free exemption?

Night Owl on January 28, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Romney finishes dead last among the “a great deal” crowd. But is that because they’re anti-Mormon specifically or just pro-Christian generally?

:roll eyes:

The phrasing of the above is anti-Mormon itself as it implicitly claims that Mormons are not Christians.

VorDaj on January 28, 2012 at 3:20 PM

We, the Ruling-Class Repub Establishment, hereby command you to support our candidate, RINO romney(care), who will, without doubt, also lose in the general election like our other candidates mccain, dole, george h.w. bush, ford….

TeaPartyNation on January 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Booyah!

Key West Reader on January 28, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Ah hell, I’m a Mitt supporter and I wish he’d shaddup about the Mormon thing. Blech..

bluealice on January 28, 2012 at 3:21 PM

We now have a President who fails to acknowledge Christmas, and yet he celebrates Ramadan in the Whitehouse. Furthermore, Hussein stated that America is no longer a Christian nation…In this environment, I doubt that Mitt’s faith will be much of an issue. We have a lying, deceiving coward for a President who not only disavows America’s christian roots, but hides his own paganism. He is a vile human being…

Nozzle on January 28, 2012 at 3:21 PM

But nice job by McCain to inject this poisonous issue into an already bitter primary.

Go away Johnny.

I did. And that’s why I said what I did: Mitt Romney is now stating that if anyone doesn’t vote for him, they’re a bigot who hates Mormons.

northdallasthirty on January 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Provide us with just one link where Romney is directly quoted saying that.

BacaDog on January 28, 2012 at 3:21 PM

And I am done with it. Mitt Romney wants to call me a bigot, I call him a liar.

are you sure you read it carefully. JOHN MCCAIN said that Not Romney

gerrym51 on January 28, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Mav is right.

What Mav, war hero that he is, shouldve said is “hey, those South Carolina redneck jerks started the Civil War because of their white supremacy. First, the rednecks tried to start the Civil War in 1932 until the great Andrew Jackson threatened to hang those evil traitors from the highest tree.

Then, the low-lifes did start the real civil war. yes, it started in South Carolina.

South Carolina also had the hardest time amongst the southern states in accept black americans as their equals. The hostility level against religions not of their choosing (Jews, Mormons, etc) is well known.

Thankfully, that tool town does NOT represent this great land like Mitt Romney does.

Jailbreak on January 28, 2012 at 3:22 PM

So how do you Mitt fans like being on the same awsome team as losers McCain, Bob Dole and Charlie Christ. Yep, your guy Mitt is really the way to move the country back to the right.

When your guy Mitt gets rolled by Obama you will have yourselves to blame…we tried to warn you but your RINO heros were just to much for you to resist.

magic kingdom on January 28, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Mitt Romney is stating that anyone who votes for someone other than him is an anti-Mormon bigot.

You can try to spin all you want, but that is exactly what Mitt Romney is saying through his idiot blabbering mouthpiece McCain.

And I am done with it. Mitt Romney wants to call me a bigot, I call him a liar.

northdallasthirty on January 28, 2012 at 3:19 PM

Last Sunday morning on Fox News Sunday am show, Mittens played the Mormon card right after the election loss in South Carolina. I remember thinking, well when did that come up?

Marcus on January 28, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Are you telling me that McCain is still alive?!

Czar of Defenestration on January 28, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Fight with me ::wheeze:: I tell ya, :::wheeze::: fight :::wheeze:: with me.

/John McLame.

Key West Reader on January 28, 2012 at 3:22 PM

Oh, there are definitely some people who won’t vote for Mormons.

Allahpundit on January 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Are there any people Mormons won’t vote for? Just curious? :)

Fallon on January 28, 2012 at 3:23 PM

The bias is regional, not religious and not ideological. The South doesn’t go for Northerners whether they’re Mormon like Romney or Catholic like Santorum. This is what’s driving some of Limbaugh’s criticism as well–a deep animosity towards NE politicians. It’s a bias reflected in blogs like Redstate and Freerepublic as well. It doesn’t matter whether it’s Rudy or Romney or Christie, as soon as a NE politician enters the fray he’s branded a rino and a moderate.

All this matters–a lot–since swing states are usually more welcoming to NE fiscal conservatives–branded “moderates” by red staters–and would be less welcoming to sunbelt candidates who are perceived more as religious zealots and fiscal moderates and populists rather than true conservatives. It’s why Newt and Huckabee would be disasters in PA or WI or OH–but would do great in places like SC. This is why FL is so important, unlike SC. It’s a better indicator of the demographic mix we’d have in a general election.

writeblock on January 28, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Moreover, I will put it this way.

I am a Christian.

I could care less that Romney is a Mormon. It’s not relevant to my political decision-making.

But since Romney is going to call me a an anti-Mormon bigot unless I vote for him, it just became relevant.

Mitt Romney is a desperate liar. For him to say that anyone who voted for someone else than him did so out of bigotry towards Mormonism is a narcissistic and irrational statement worthy of Barack Obama.

And the fact that he did so demonstrates that he is just as mentally filthy and deranged as Barack Obama.

northdallasthirty on January 28, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Fox: Gingrich PAC claims tv stations holding up ads.

And now this with McCain. This is all too much. Why not vote Newt to protest this establishment etc pile on. Mitt will become better through fire and keeping this thing going, and will certainly win the nomination anyway.

anotherJoe on January 28, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Mitt Romney delivered a new zinger against Newt Gingrich in an event in Orlando just now, mocking him over his complaints about this week’s debates. “I had fun last night, I gotta tell you,” Romney said. “Now Speaker Gingrich said after the debate before last night that the crowd wasnt allowed to cheer so he couldn’t do so well because the crowd was too quiet.

“Then last night he said the crowd was too loud, he couldn’t deal with it. It’s like Goldilocks, you know – the porridge is too hot, the porridge is too cold. Look, I’m looking forward to debating Barack Obama. I don’t worry too much about the crowd. I’ve got to make sure we tell the truth to Barack Obama and get him out of the White House.”

haner on January 28, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Where’s the “zinger”?

ddrintn on January 28, 2012 at 3:23 PM

How’s the fence coming, John…?

Seven Percent Solution on January 28, 2012 at 3:13 PM

I was over 7% late on my fence jab. Apologies…

Fallon on January 28, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Provide us with just one link where Romney is directly quoted saying that.

BacaDog on January 28, 2012 at 3:21 PM

are you sure you read it carefully. JOHN MCCAIN said that Not Romney

gerrym51 on January 28, 2012 at 3:22 PM

McCain works for Mitt Romney and is the spokesperson for the Mitt Romney campaign.

Again: Mitt Romney is now stating that if anyone doesn’t vote for him, they’re a bigot who hates Mormons.

I don’t let Obama get away with this sort of smear by proxy bullshit, and I sure as hell am not going to let Romney get away with it.

northdallasthirty on January 28, 2012 at 3:25 PM

There he goes again… being all ‘Maverick-y’.

Maybe Romney should have paid him to not endorse.

Snorkdoodle Whizbang on January 28, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Dear john, the only reason I voted for you last time was a vote against bho! I am sick to death of all this krap between ours running and not against bho! And, I heard or read someplace a few days ago, the good ole boy r’s are warning those running not to go after bho too much! Might hurt bho’s thin skin feelings you know and be labeled a racist by bho, team, and bhopress?
L

letget on January 28, 2012 at 3:03 PM

I saw this on fox this morning but they didn’t give details. Just that the Bushes stopped by. Iany further details? By the way letget, I always enjoy your comments on MM’ s blog.

FLconservative on January 28, 2012 at 3:26 PM

For him to say that anyone who voted for someone else than him did so out of bigotry towards Mormonism is a narcissistic and irrational statement worthy of Barack Obama.

Just because you keep saying that doesn’t make it true. I’m not particularly enamored with Mitt, but he didn’t say that.

Our old pal Johnny did.

My friends.

BacaDog on January 28, 2012 at 3:26 PM

I did. And that’s why I said what I did: Mitt Romney is now stating that if anyone doesn’t vote for him, they’re a bigot who hates Mormons.

northdallasthirty on January 28, 2012 at 3:17 PM

If you honestly think that Romney would play the Mormon card, when he’s steered clear of it on the trail, and risk alienating his base, then you’re delusional. McCain has gone off script before and I’m pretty sure he did so this time as well. If Romney really did want to play that card, he would use someone who actually has a good relationship with evangelicals, not John McCain.

GOPRanknFile on January 28, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Rational Thought on January 28, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Also expect a lot of reports on how the Mormons would not ordain black men as ministers until couple of decades ago.

Wethal on January 28, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Only a newtard would deny McCain’s assertion.

aloysiusmiller on January 28, 2012 at 3:27 PM

If you honestly think that Romney would play the Mormon card, when he’s steered clear of it on the trail, and risk alienating his base, then you’re delusional. McCain has gone off script before and I’m pretty sure he did so this time as well. If Romney really did want to play that card, he would use someone who actually has a good relationship with evangelicals, not John McCain.

GOPRanknFile on January 28, 2012 at 3:26 PM

I meant to say “the” base, and not “his” base, of course.

GOPRanknFile on January 28, 2012 at 3:27 PM

He’s right…it’s alive and well on this board. People need to be respectful of other’s beliefs. Regardless of you what you think.

rubberneck on January 28, 2012 at 3:28 PM

I was inclined to vote for Romney until Thursday’s CNN debate, when Romney accused Newt of causing the Fannie and Freddie subprime debacle.

Romney’s an unforgivable POS.

BuckeyeSam on January 28, 2012 at 3:28 PM

18 percent of Republicans say they wouldn’t vote for a Mormon

Pathetic.

EddieC on January 28, 2012 at 3:28 PM

I don’t think Hussein, Axelrod and their media hacks want to take on mormonism…All I can say is bring it on. Let’s relive the fact that Hussein sat in Rev Wright’s dysfunctional anti-Amerika church for 20 years. Let’s evaluate Hussein’s treatment of his so called christian faith even though he never seems to practice that faith. And what about his being raised a muslim…

Nozzle on January 28, 2012 at 3:29 PM

There he goes again… being all ‘Maverick-y’.

Snorkdoodle Whizbang on January 28, 2012 at 3:25 PM

You just sent chills down my spine. You brought to mind the VP debate of 2008 when Half-Term was talking about how they would fix the country’s problems by being “mavericky”.

Dear Lord….why did Mav inflict us with that embarrassing clown-curse????

Jailbreak on January 28, 2012 at 3:29 PM

First, the rednecks tried to start the Civil War in 1932 until the great Andrew Jackson threatened to hang those evil traitors from the highest tree.

Jailbreak on January 28, 2012 at 3:22 PM

LOL…uhhhh…

And the “great Andrew Jackson” was, according to your tabulation, a white-supremacist slaveowner who was born on the SC-NC border.

ddrintn on January 28, 2012 at 3:29 PM

was inclined to vote for Romney until Thursday’s CNN debate, when Romney accused Newt of causing the Fannie and Freddie subprime debacle.

Romney’s an unforgivable POS.

BuckeyeSam on January 28, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Liar. You were NEVER inclined to vote for Mitt. Nice try, clown. You remind me of your unethical moonie candidate.

Jailbreak on January 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Oh, there are definitely some people who won’t vote for Mormons.

Allahpundit on January 28, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Especially a cybernetic one…

apocalypse on January 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Hey, it’s John McCain.

You know, he was a good candidate. Let’s nominate him again.

HitNRun on January 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM

northdallasthirty on January 28, 2012 at 3:25 PM

I wasn’t very bright (of McCain)to even bring this up… but, it certainly is true.

I am sure that there are fellow Christians of mine that will refuse to vote for Romney because of his Mormonism.

So, while it was dumb (for McCain)to actually say it, what he said is not egregious. He seems to be suggesting that some people did not vote for Romney because of his faith.

Disagree?

RightWay79 on January 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM

Only a newtard would deny McCain’s assertion.

aloysiusmiller on January 28, 2012 at 3:27 PM

I dropped Newt Thursday, but you’re assertion is ridiculous. But keep choking that turkey.

BuckeyeSam on January 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM

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