Tough new Gingrich ad: “What kind of man?”

posted at 4:20 pm on January 27, 2012 by Allahpundit

So psyched is Team Newt about this spot that they started pushing it to the media this morning before the vid was even done, sending around the script instead. It’s good, but the image of Romney as a ruthless, slippery politician who’ll say whatever he has to in order to win is, I fear, already priced into his stock. In fact, just as this ad hit YouTube, BuzzFeed came up with yet another example:

The campaign makes a practice of whitewashing transcripts and stories before circulating to the press, a practice that has become familiar to reporters covering the candidate.

For example, last Monday, during a press call with Tim Pawlenty, a Miami Herald reporter asked the campaign surrogate about Romney’s investments in Freddie Mac…

Pawlenty punted on the question–saying that he’d “have to ask the campaign to follow up with you.” But when the Romney press shop e-mailed out a transcript of the call later that day, the exchange was nowhere to be found…

The cherry-picking extends to the news and opinion articles the campaign forwards to reporters as well.

Remember, this is a guy whose very first attack ad against Obama late last year was built around a ridiculously out-of-context quote. If you nominate Romney, that’s what you’re getting. The thing is, conservatives want him to be this way in the general against O, right? One of the sorest spots on the right about the 2008 campaign was the sense that McCain didn’t hit Obama as hard as he could; that fear persists with Mitt because he dutifully concedes The One’s good intentions whenever he’s asked, which irritates the hell out of the “Obama is evil” crowd but is defensible strategy in appealing to undecideds who don’t hate Obama the way many grassroots righties do. Maybe we shouldn’t fear that Romney will go easy on O, though. Like Obama himself, Mitt tends to play the nice guy on the stump while letting his ad team and other surrogates be as cutthroat as they need to be with his opponents. He does what he thinks he needs to do to win, which is alienating if you’re a Newt fan but maybe not so alienating if you’re a Republican who’s most interested in ousting O. All of which is to say, while this spot does a nifty job of making Romney less likable, I’m not sure that the big conclusion on electability is true.

Besides, how receptive are voters really to attacks on a politician’s honesty? It’s like attacking a pol for influence peddling: In exceptional cases it might matter (the Freddie Mac fingerpointing between Mitt and Newt is exceptional because of Freddie’s role in the housing crisis and wider recession), but to some degree voters cynically expect that behavior. Exit question: How much of an effect can any one ad have at this point when Romney’s outspending Newt by this much?


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kunegetikos on January 27, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Take this to the bank.

It lost him AZ, for sure, and he needs her.

Read this – it’s hilarious.

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM

He’s also now in a committed, stable marriage, and has been for years.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

I’ll give it to ya… that’s a knee-slapper right there!

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Galt, I feel sorry for you. I really do. You have nothing whatsoever to base that on. Nothing. Do you have any evidence you’d like to present to us that proves Newt hasn’t repented? Do you have any evidence to present to us that would suggest he’s not in a stable, committed marriage now? OF COURSE YOU DON’T.

However, if you want to continue to show your childishness on here, then go right ahead. You’re now free to return to your sandbox.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM

People getting excited over Romney or Gingrich,who woulda thunk it.Alabama-Auburn, Ohio State- Michigan, USC-ND or Nebraska-Oklahoma, maybe. To quote a famous southern pol,”There aint a dimes worth of difference between them”.

celtic warrior on January 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Have you ever studied just exactly what Mormons believe? If not, I challenge you to do so. After you have, take another look at Romney.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Yes, I have. For a few decades, actually. I know everything they believe inside and out, and I don’t find it crazy at all. They believe what Christ taught. Is that crazy?

acorn on January 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM

The clueless anti-Romney paranoids just want to beat the mysterious “establishment” whatever that is.

cicerone on January 27, 2012 at 5:07 PM

You’re disingenuous. You know very well what the “establishment” is. As SCOTUS said about pornography, you may not be able to define it, but you know when you see it.

This is the little game Romneybots use. What’s the establishment? Gee I dunno. Yes you do know.

angryed on January 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Visual still there, only worse now.

FlaMurph on January 27, 2012 at 5:09 PM

I don’t like any of them, but I love to watch your camp celebrate prematurely.

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM

“If we his 3 wives can’t trust Mitt Romney Newt Gingrich about what he said about his own record in his own wedding vows, how can we trust him on anything.”

Good question, that.

captn2fat on January 27, 2012 at 5:12 PM

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:04 PM
The president has quite a large amount of influence on what gets brought up in the congress. he even has much input into what it should look like coming out. His staff right at this moment is saying that NO Romney will not repeal it. Romney said he would like to get rid of the bad and keep the good. Of course, bad to him is good to me and good to him is bad to me.

astonerii on January 27, 2012 at 5:06 PM

so the fear with romney then, if am getitng this right is: he will work behind the scenes, influencing a tea party stacked house NOT to bring up and vote on a repeal measure OR would exert potus influence on legislation to water it down? this is the fear? ok, so that explains what happens in Feb 2013. ok got that. but how does romney nomination HURT in november? some say ropmney care means obama wins. how does romney care HURT romney in the gen election? given the 3 voter blocks (proACA, antiACA, squishy mods), and the choice given them. on election day. am i completely stupid here? seriously. i have been thinking this thru since this meme started and i have not heard anyone walk thru this logic. once. to explain how romneycare hurts a possible romeny candidate vis a vis getting voters to choose HIM over obama. and motivate them in november

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:12 PM

what if people in some states would like healthcare mandates, not at the federal level, but at the state level? what if the good people of mass want romneycare ? are they not free to decide that ?

runner on January 27, 2012 at 5:12 PM

magic kingdom on January 27, 2012 at 4:59 PM

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and…. Reagan was a Democrat- and signed a Pro-Abortion law as Gov. C’mon this stupid – thats why they are having 128 debates.

FlaMurph on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Where will Clarista get her pink slip? Does the White House have a Tower Green?

NoDonkey on January 27, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Hey, it’s Callista, as it’s not Moochell.

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

As for Romney, though, he continues to associate himself with the cult called Mormanism. Big difference there.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM

My sister is Mormon. I’m not, but I’ve had a chance to observe the religion through her.

It’s not a cult.

Vyce on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

So now you are not only agreeing that the state mandate (romneycare) is okay, you now agree that the federal one is okay (obamacare).

See how far we’ve come in just a short space of time?

I appreciate it, really.

lorien1973 on January 27, 2012 at 5:08 PM

The US Government is only given the powers delegated it by the Constitution, something you will find in the Tenth Amendment to the US Constitution. As I can find no authority in the US Constitution giving the US government that power, then no, they do not have that authority.

Now, where does the US government derive the authority to prevent the Commonwealth of Massachusetts from forcing its citizens, through use of law, to enter into third-part contracts?

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

FlaMurph on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Good for goose, not for gander…

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

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Arnie Palmy Alert, Arnie Palmy !!!!

FlaMurph on January 27, 2012 at 5:14 PM

FlaMurph on January 27, 2012 at 5:14 PM

You’re easy.

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Callista, Chippy, whatever.

I wonder if he ever gets their names mixed up.

NoDonkey on January 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Galt, I feel sorry for you. I really do. You have nothing whatsoever to base that on. Nothing.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM

History, as they say, is prelude.

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM

are they not free to decide that ?

runner on January 27, 2012 at 5:12 PM

If the majority of people decide in a state that raping women is okay, does that mean the state can make it legal?

Rights are individual. Not collective.

Seriously, again. Ask yourself “Should anyone have the power to force me into a contract against my will?”

If you answer yes to that. I’m sorry. I really am. You’ve just decided that you are no longer a citizen, but a serf.

lorien1973 on January 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Have you ever studied just exactly what Mormons believe? If not, I challenge you to do so. After you have, take another look at Romney.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:46 PM
Yes, I have. For a few decades, actually. I know everything they believe inside and out, and I don’t find it crazy at all. They believe what Christ taught. Is that crazy?

acorn on January 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM

They believe that they are going to be a god just like Jesus, someday on some other planet or dimension. That is not what Christ taught.
They ignore that Jesus taught that he is God.
Mormons are a blasphemous cult not just a cult.

Plantnerd on January 27, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Now that you ask the question, yes, I DO. Mormonism is a cult–plain and simple. For Romney to be involved in this further diplays his lack of judgment and character. Have you ever studied just exactly what Mormons believe? If not, I challenge you to do so. After you have, take another look at Romney.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:46 PM

You know, bigots like you give us Christians a bad name.

I don’t care how anyone comes to God. The more that come, the better we are as a people and a nation and a world.

Texas Gal on January 27, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Good for goose, not for gander…

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

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I don’t think this is good goose for anyone. Except the media companies.

FlaMurph on January 27, 2012 at 5:16 PM

My sister is Mormon. I’m not, but I’ve had a chance to observe the religion through her.

It’s not a cult.

Vyce on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM.

No more of a cult than what Rush, Sarah or Glenn run anyway.

NoDonkey on January 27, 2012 at 5:16 PM

As for Romney, though, he continues to associate himself with the cult called Mormanism. Big difference there.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM
My sister is Mormon. I’m not, but I’ve had a chance to observe the religion through her.

It’s not a cult.

Vyce on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Sorry to hear that, and I feel sorry for your sister. And yes, Mormonism is most definitely a cult.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 5:17 PM

You’re easy.

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM

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Tell my wife that. Please. Badooomboomp.

FlaMurph on January 27, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Now, where in that document do you read the prohibition on states, through force of law, requiring their citizens from entering into contracts?

You are all tied up in what law states. I am talking principle.

In principle, would you give someone that power over you? And can you not see how poorly this would turn out in the long run?

lorien1973 on January 27, 2012 at 5:19 PM

I don’t think this is good goose for anyone. Except the media companies.

FlaMurph on January 27, 2012 at 5:16 PM

The fiels is stinky, all the way. It’s a tough cycle.
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jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:46 PM

This is moronic. Mormonism, or any religion, unless they want sharia, should not be an issue.

There are 1001 other reasons why not to like Romney. Focuse on them, if you’re so inclined. His religion is btw. him and his god and none of anyone’s business.

Plus, in his case, it’s an asset.

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:19 PM

If the majority of people decide in a state that raping women is okay, does that mean the state can make it legal?

lorien1973 on January 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM

What part of the US Constitution do you see that gives the US Government the authority to stop the aforementioned state from making that (supremely foolish) decision?

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:19 PM

The nastier Newt Gingrich got, the less I liked him. At this point, I think he’s pretty much scum. He’s turned this primary into a circus, a one-ring circus, cause it’s all about him.

Barack Obama stopped the Keystone pipeline, made illegal appointments, and pretty much re-ran his SOTU speech… but all we’ve heard about for a month is Newt Gingrich and his never-ending train of baggage.

Murf76 on January 27, 2012 at 5:19 PM

The field is stinky.

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:20 PM

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 5:17 PM

What religion is Newt, BTW? Anglican?

I’m thinking not Catholic.

NoDonkey on January 27, 2012 at 5:20 PM

You are all tied up in what law states. I am talking principle.

lorien1973 on January 27, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Nation of laws…

Yes, I’m certain I’ve heard that somewhere…

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Now that you ask the question, yes, I DO. Mormonism is a cult–plain and simple. For Romney to be involved in this further diplays his lack of judgment and character. Have you ever studied just exactly what Mormons believe? If not, I challenge you to do so. After you have, take another look at Romney.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:46 PM
You know, bigots like you give us Christians a bad name.

I don’t care how anyone comes to God. The more that come, the better we are as a people and a nation and a world.

Texas Gal on January 27, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Funny, you refer to yourself as “us Christians,” and yet you call me a “bigot.” Pot…meet kettle….

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM

NoDonkey on January 27, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Catholic, due to Callista.

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM

What part of the US Constitution do you see that gives the US Government the authority to stop the aforementioned state from making that (supremely foolish) decision?

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Hell yeah! Rock on!

lorien1973 on January 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM

What kind of man tells his wife on the phone that he loves her while lying in bed with his mistress.

Newt pig Gingrich. Thats the kind of man.

Jailbreak on January 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM

If the majority of people decide in a state that raping women is okay, does that mean the state can make it legal?

Rights are individual. Not collective.

Seriously, again. Ask yourself “Should anyone have the power to force me into a contract against my will?”

If you answer yes to that. I’m sorry. I really am. You’ve just decided that you are no longer a citizen, but a serf.

lorien1973 on January 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM

you feel raped by mass-care, i got it.

I do not think mandating people into contracts should be legal.. Hoever, the way I understand masscare works is that it forced people who already forced themselves into a willing contract with the government (i.e. the 8% or whatever who were getting it for free from the gov) to actually pay for it.

runner on January 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Now that you ask the question, yes, I DO. Mormonism is a cult–plain and simple. For Romney to be involved in this further diplays his lack of judgment and character. Have you ever studied just exactly what Mormons believe? If not, I challenge you to do so. After you have, take another look at Romney.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Unitarian Universalism, Hinduism, Atheism, Islamists, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, and various branches of those religions…no matter what it is…I think if you are a good character person, help others, etc… I don’t care what you believe. Don’t need to look.
On the other hand-I belive, you might be a turd that lobotomy4life passed onto the basement floor, when it thought it was just having a gas attack and… pharted too hard!

KOOLAID2 on January 27, 2012 at 5:22 PM

for the rest it did not change

runner on January 27, 2012 at 5:22 PM

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 5:17 PM

What religion is Newt, BTW? Anglican?

I’m thinking not Catholic.

NoDonkey on January 27, 2012 at 5:20 PM

recent catholic convert.

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:22 PM

History, as they say, is prelude.

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM

“…I’m someone who is moderate, and my views are progressive…”

Mitt Romney, 2002

Well… then I guess we know how he’d govern in the Whitehouse and what kind of justices he’d nominate. Thanks for clearing that up!

Snorkdoodle Whizbang on January 27, 2012 at 5:23 PM

not sure how it works for people who do not want healthcare coverage at all; if they have to buy it

runner on January 27, 2012 at 5:24 PM

What part of the US Constitution do you see that gives the US Government the authority to stop the aforementioned state from making that (supremely foolish) decision?

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Hell yeah! Rock on!

lorien1973 on January 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM

I’ll take that as: “I can’t find any part of the US Constitution that prohibits the several States from doing so.”

To which I reply, once again, if they do so, and you don’t like it, get the hell out of Massachusetts.

Advice I find myself giving more and more these days, it seems.

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:25 PM

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Tea Party stacked house. Is that not the same house that voted for an extra couple trillion in debt?

If you do not understand that vast majority of those people in office today are there for no other purpose than to accrue power then you have not been paying any attention. Romney will not work behind their back, he will do it up front and personable.

You know guys, it would look really heartless to cut children off their parents insurance until they 26, so we should probably keep that aspect of it. You know, people with pre-existing conditions really need out support here and we will have to keep that in there as well. We all know that if we require insurance to cover pre-existing conditions, the only way they can stay in business is if we force Americans to buy insurance so they do not just get insurance after they get sick. So, yeah, the Mandate is going to have be part of what we leave behind.

If you do not understand the principle of that layered approach of coming to the conclusion of leaving the worst part of Obamacare intact, then you have not been paying any attention.

astonerii on January 27, 2012 at 5:25 PM

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Tell me if you disagree with either of these statements:

1) God is omniscient

2) God inspired the Founding Fathers as they were drafting the US Constitution

Kataklysmic on January 27, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Well… then I guess we know how he’d govern in the Whitehouse and what kind of justices he’d nominate. Thanks for clearing that up!

Snorkdoodle Whizbang on January 27, 2012 at 5:23 PM

Wish I could say you were wrong.

I can’t.

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:26 PM

Now, where does the US government derive the authority to prevent the Commonwealth of Massachusetts from forcing its citizens, through use of law, to enter into third-part contracts?

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

in theory couldnt a citizen of that state argue that the state mandate in some way violates his rights as defined in the first 9 amendments of the constitution? isnt that how they get courts to overturn gay marriage bans that are voted for? couldnt the same be applied?

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Funny, you refer to yourself as “us Christians,” and yet you call me a “bigot.” Pot…meet kettle….

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Yes, us Christians, there’s all kinds of us. Unlike your exclusive club.

Texas Gal on January 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Now that you ask the question, yes, I DO. Mormonism is a cult–plain and simple. For Romney to be involved in this further diplays his lack of judgment and character. Have you ever studied just exactly what Mormons believe? If not, I challenge you to do so. After you have, take another look at Romney.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:46 PM
Unitarian Universalism, Hinduism, Atheism, Islamists, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, and various branches of those religions…no matter what it is…I think if you are a good character person, help others, etc… I don’t care what you believe. Don’t need to look.
On the other hand-I belive, you might be a turd that lobotomy4life passed onto the basement floor, when it thought it was just having a gas attack and… pharted too hard!

KOOLAID2 on January 27, 2012 at 5:22 PM

Thanks! I appreciate the kind words! I’m sure you’ll go far in life in that attitude! (Sarcasm dripping….)

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:25 PM

So free speech can be stripped by the states?
Right to bear arms can be stripped by the states?

Somehow I consider the right to make my own purchasing decisions to be part and parcel with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, which are inalienable rights, rights for which governments are instituted by man to protect against incursion.

astonerii on January 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Groan. Not another “Mormanism is a cult” thread….

haner on January 27, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Remember, this is a guy whose very first attack ad against Obama late last year was built around a ridiculously out-of-context quote. If you nominate Romney, that’s what you’re getting. The thing is, conservatives want him to be this way in the general against O, right?

no, not at all. using things in that manner makes him look slimy. 0bama has enough bad things to legitimately use against him. when a campaign makes a stretch like this it casts doubts on everything they do. the next ad can be dismissed by referencing the untruths in the previous one.

chasdal on January 27, 2012 at 5:30 PM

If you do not understand the principle of that layered approach of coming to the conclusion of leaving the worst part of Obamacare intact, then you have not been paying any attention.

astonerii on January 27, 2012 at 5:25 PM

yes guy. i understand all that. my question is: please explain to me the argument that romney as the nominee is HURT by romneycare in the general election. thats what i am trying to understand. how does that work? i know full well why repeal MUST be accomplished.

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:31 PM

You’re disingenuous. You know very well what the “establishment” is. As SCOTUS said about pornography, you may not be able to define it, but you know when you see it.

This is the little game Romneybots use. What’s the establishment? Gee I dunno. Yes you do know.

angryed on January 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Great post. I like the analogy.

KickandSwimMom on January 27, 2012 at 5:31 PM

This is the little game Romneybots use. What’s the establishment? Gee I dunno. Yes you do know.

angryed on January 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Is Drudge the establishment? Yes or no.

haner on January 27, 2012 at 5:33 PM

So free speech can be stripped by the states?
Right to bear arms can be stripped by the states?

astonerii on January 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Free speech is guaranteed by the First Amendment, and has been incorporated to include the States by the Fourteenth Amendment.

RTKBA is protected by the Second Amendment, and I believe SCOTUS will shortly incorporate that also.

(I really shouldn’t have to explain this to y’all.)

Now, where in the US Constitution are you protected from being forced to enter into a contract, and at what point did the courts incorporate that right to include prohibitions upon the States?

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Newt voted for Reagan. Romney voted for Jimmy Carter then four later Romney was such a mindless lib he voted for Walter Mondale over Reagan again
Folks, this guy then gives us socialist medicine in Mass giving Obama his blueprint for Obamacare

This is the guy we want to roll with just because the GOP establishment tells us we must? No chance the base is this stupid. Newt is a much better choice.

magic kingdom on January 27, 2012 at 5:33 PM

History, as they say, is prelude.

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Apply that to Romney’s record of governance and what do you get?

besser tot als rot on January 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM

Somehow I consider the right to make my own purchasing decisions to be part and parcel with life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness,

astonerii on January 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Which you cannot be deprived of without due process of law.

Is it your claim that the Commonwealth of Massachusetts did not provide its citizens due process of law when it passed this mandate into law?

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:36 PM

yes guy. i understand all that. my question is: please explain to me the argument that romney as the nominee is HURT by romneycare in the general election. thats what i am trying to understand. how does that work? i know full well why repeal MUST be accomplished.

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Perhaps this might help explain Romney’s weakness on Romneycare in the general. It’s a piece from Jeffrey Anderson at the Weekly Standard summing up the exchange between Romney and Santorum. I would suggest you read the whole thing if you get a chance:

. . . Romney then replied by issuing a defense of Romneycare that sounded a lot like the defense that Obama (who might have even been taking notes) is likely to give of Obamacare: “I didn’t say I’m in favor of top-down government-run health care. Ninety-two percent of the people in my state had insurance before our plan went in place.” (For Obamacare, it’s nearly the same percentage of people, only nationwide) “And nothing changes for them. They own the same private insurance they had before.” (As Obama likes to say, “If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”) “And for the 8 percent of people who didn’t have insurance, we said to them, if you can afford insurance, buy it yourself, any one of the plans out there, you can choose any plan.” (The same is true for Obamacare — except, as in Romneycare, for the large numbers of people who get shuttled onto Medicaid.) “There’s no government plan.” (There isn’t one in Obamacare either, as the public outcry caused the “public option” to be nixed.)

KickandSwimMom on January 27, 2012 at 5:36 PM

Tell me if you disagree with either of these statements:

1) God is omniscient

2) God inspired the Founding Fathers as they were drafting the US Constitution

Kataklysmic on January 27, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Why that’s just crazy talk!

*resumes praying to grilled cheese sandwich*

The Ugly American on January 27, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Groan. Not another “Mormanism is a cult” thread….

haner on January 27, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Indeed. It’s disgusting.

Is Drudge the establishment? Yes or no.

haner on January 27, 2012 at 5:33 PM

No, he’s a gonzo, who’s tiny gonads are being held tight by Ann Coulter. He doesn’t give a darn about any of the candidates, on both sides.

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Nice of the union to team up with Newt on Mitt.

changer1701 on January 27, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Like Romney teamed up with Pelosi by using her veil threat against Gingrich?

A threat that had been walked back by Pelosi’s office the day before the ad was released.

The ad that Gingrich released today is provable with Romney’s own words, unlike the one he released that’s full of proven lies, innuendos and misinformation.

Flora Duh on January 27, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Apply that to Romney’s record of governance and what do you get?

besser tot als rot on January 27, 2012 at 5:35 PM

A northeast, liberal-to-moderate Republican.

I’m not pretending otherwise.

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:38 PM

I’m really starting to hate Newt Gingrich. This is the most dishonest commercial I’ve ever heard from a Republican, maybe from anyone.

jan3 on January 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

….. We all know that if we require insurance to cover pre-existing conditions, the only way they can stay in business is if we force Americans to buy insurance so they do not just get insurance after they get sick. So, yeah, the Mandate is going to have be part of what we leave behind.

astonerii on January 27, 2012 at 5:25 PM

you honestly beleive a GOP potus whoever it is, a GOP senate (lets call is 53) and a GOP house would leave the mandate intact?? honestly? how does all this change when scotus throws OUT the mandate? which is likely. if that happnes the entire equation changes. then it MUST go; in toto. it has no funding mechanism.

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Flora Duh on January 27, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Romney/Flynt (except that Romney would pay more millions for the sewer)

Your comments are great!

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

Now, where in the US Constitution are you protected from being forced to enter into a contract, and at what point did the courts incorporate that right to include prohibitions upon the States?

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Wow. This argument is so far left that Pelosi would blush to make it. You, sir, are an embarrassment to you handle.

besser tot als rot on January 27, 2012 at 5:40 PM

This is the guy we want to roll with just because the GOP establishment tells us we must? No chance the base is this stupid. Newt is a much better choice.

magic kingdom on January 27, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Yawn, so were still playing this “the GOP establishment tell us we must” game?? So, apparently – if one candidate is so disliked by a large portion of republican voters, they must be the establishment.

Apparently, all it would take for Romney to get more support from this so called “smart base”, is for more people and websites to say they dislike him and think he would make a bad presidential nominee.

kage on January 27, 2012 at 5:40 PM

All I know is haner, cicceron, tater salad, jpeterman, all these guys have become as annoying to me personally as the Ron Paul crew, who were frankly insufferable.. like daikokocu, JohnGalt23, etc..

I look at the name below the comment 1st, I don’t even read a word these people say. I already read the 1st comment out of hundreds they post, why bother? It’s the same exact tripe in every one. Place has sadly lost a lot of fantastic commenters over past 2 years, miss ‘em!

saus on January 27, 2012 at 5:40 PM

in theory couldnt a citizen of that state argue that the state mandate in some way violates his rights as defined in the first 9 amendments of the constitution? isnt that how they get courts to overturn gay marriage bans that are voted for? couldnt the same be applied?

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Feel free. I’m listening… errrr… reading…

Whatever. Go ahead.

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:40 PM

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:31 PM

The candidate Romney cannot effectively run against an Opponent that has the same record as himself. Vote for me, I am just like him! Vote for me, I signed Romneycare and back it 100% to this very day, unlike Obama who signed Obamacare and backs it 100% to this very day.

Essentially Romney takes just about everything off the table for legitimate attacks on Obama. Taxes, raised him some. Lower spending, ooops Romney you increased spending. Jobs, oh damn Romney, your state was 50th out of 50 for job creation. Improved regulations, here again Romney you passed the first in the nation GHG cap and trade. Obamacare, we all know the answer to that one. Right to life, LOL OMG ROTFLMGDMFAO! Right to bear arms, laws by Obama to date against guns zero, Romney at least one! Well, Romney would let America produce energy at least, “Romney stated that the proposed Cape Wind project would depress property values”, really?

astonerii on January 27, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Wow. This argument is so far left that Pelosi would blush to make it. You, sir, are an embarrassment to you handle.

besser tot als rot on January 27, 2012 at 5:40 PM

It’s a question. One, it appears, still in search of an answer.

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:41 PM

Place has sadly lost a lot of fantastic commenters over past 2 years, miss ‘em!

saus on January 27, 2012 at 5:40 PM

So true :(

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:42 PM

The ad is not that good. For voters (especially low-informed ones), it’s so much better to have the candidate saying the words instead of an announcer. Whenever I hear an ad like that I can’t help but wonder if it’s true or taken out of context.

That said, it’s unbelievable that Romney gets a pass on voting for Paul Tsongas. How do you Mitt supporters square that circle?

conservative pilgrim on January 27, 2012 at 5:43 PM

Place has sadly lost a lot of fantastic commenters over past 2 years, miss ‘em!

saus on January 27, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Indeed. I don’t like wading into the comments much any more. It’s a hate fest.

conservative pilgrim on January 27, 2012 at 5:44 PM

I’m really starting to hate Newt Gingrich. This is the most dishonest commercial I’ve ever heard from a Republican, maybe from anyone.

jan3 on January 27, 2012 at 5:39 PM

It uses Romney’s own comments. It’s not the ad that’s being dishonest.

Flora Duh on January 27, 2012 at 5:44 PM

KickandSwimMom on January 27, 2012 at 5:36 PM

again, i understand his weakness. yes i understnad those that think he wont persue repeal on OUR side do not trust him. and do not beleive he will follow thru. BUT, the question is: the meme that says “obama will LOVE having romney as the nominee becuase well, ya know, romneycare! he has no argument!”. i dont understand THAT. romney SAYS he will repeal it. some of us may not beleive him. but do they vote FOR oabam or stay home?? i am simply saying, if romney is the nominee it has NO impact on november vis a vis this repeal issue. it doesnt help obama. at all. it makes many of us nervous for what will happen in Jan 2013 yes. but its disingenuous to say romney care hurts romney against obama. no one has defended that position yet. everyone keeps saying romney is a squish and wont really do it. fine i get that. and i worry about him too. but thats an argument for US now internally before we get to tampa. i am talking about after tampa in the general election equation.

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:45 PM

What kind of a man drowns kittens in his bath tub for fun? Curses on that Mitt Romney fella!

/s

MJBrutus on January 27, 2012 at 5:46 PM

Read this – it’s hilarious.

Schadenfreude on January 27, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Meat and potatoes. That was an awesome piece. Obamas: That hateful, fabricated book, “Culture of Corruption,” has been on the NYT bestseller list for how many weeks!@#@!!11!11

Sooooo thin-skinned.

conservative pilgrim on January 27, 2012 at 5:47 PM

My sister is Mormon. I’m not, but I’ve had a chance to observe the religion through her.

It’s not a cult.

Vyce on January 27, 2012 at 5:13 PM

I have several friends who are Mormon and I’ve found it to be just as valid as any other religion.

Their main principles appear to be God, family, free will and self-sufficiency.

Sounds rather appealing to me.

The Ugly American on January 27, 2012 at 5:51 PM

The candidate Romney cannot effectively run against an Opponent that has the same record as himself. Vote for me, I am just like him! Vote for me, I signed Romneycare and back it 100% to this very day, unlike Obama who signed Obamacare and backs it 100% to this very day.

astonerii on January 27, 2012 at 5:41 PM

the problem with that postion is he doesnt SAY that. he SAYS he will actively seek repeal iof ACA. he doesnt say i am just like him. he says him is very dangerous and I will repeal ACA. again, how does this hurt him in november? so this is a “dog whistle” theory? he SAYS he wants to repeal it! but aha! no! he’s a squish and wont! he a closet statist! so i am satying home! (or voting FOR obama?). is this what i am suppose to follow? this logic? i dont beleive he’ll do what he says he’ll do so by my inaction (staying home) i will GET the thing i want the LEAST (abama re-elected and a fully implemented ACA).

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:51 PM

No wonder Frank got engaged. The Obama administration will never let him get criticized, and Mitt–his MA buddy–will cover Frank’s considerable *ss in the GOP primaries.
Mitt is a total lowlife.

BuckeyeSam on January 27, 2012 at 5:04 PM

The experts tell us that Romney is the man.
Do they have any idea how blood-thirsty and hyper-partisan the government employees and their unions are ?
Do they know how absolutely destructive and vindictive the bureaucracy is at fed level in DC? This bureaucracy looks out for it’s own interests and will resist everytime it is forced to do anything for the good of our country. This bureaucracy and its army of government workers would much rather destroy the person who attempts to improve things for the taxpayers of this country ,
than help him along.
Is Romney the guy who has the guts or even a desire to take on the file pushers and not back down when they push back ?

burrata on January 27, 2012 at 5:52 PM

conservative pilgrim on January 27, 2012 at 5:44 PM

It definitely sucks a bit. I blame twitter.. Also Obama. Hope they all doing well!

saus on January 27, 2012 at 5:52 PM

Romney: “If the choice is between dirty power plants or protecting the health of the people of Massachusetts . . . I will always come down on the side of public health.”[113] Insisting that a coal power plant meet tough emissions standards even at the cost of losing jobs, Romney announced “I will not protect jobs that kill people. And that plant kills people.”

astonerii on January 27, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Romney is the John McCain of 2012. It’s so obvious that he is also the next Bob Dole as well. When Charlie Freaking Christ is backing you then you are fully exposed as the next loser compliments of the GOP establishment and easily influenced voters. Are we really going to let this happen again people?

magic kingdom on January 27, 2012 at 5:55 PM

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 5:51 PM

It is not what you say, it is what you do. He can make that argument all day long, and Obama and a bunch of false flag supporters of his will tear Romney down. Romney opens mouth, ads say otherwise. You do remember John Kerry 2004?

astonerii on January 27, 2012 at 5:55 PM

Wow. This argument is so far left that Pelosi would blush to make it. You, sir, are an embarrassment to you handle.

besser tot als rot on January 27, 2012 at 5:40 PM

No idea that Pelosi was a federalist and strongly pro states rights.

joana on January 27, 2012 at 5:59 PM

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 5:36 PM

due process is an individual right, like all of our rights. not a collective one.

i agree w/ you on the mandate not being constitutional, but its art. 2 sec. 10 that i feel prohibits the state from requiring a person to get health insurance.

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

i read that as preventing the states from being able to prohibit or require a contract between parties.

chasdal on January 27, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Thanks! I appreciate the kind words! I’m sure you’ll go far in life in that attitude! (Sarcasm dripping….)

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 5:27 PM

You might want to check!I’m worried about your health.
(I don’t think it is sarcasm, that you have dripping).

KOOLAID2 on January 27, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Tough new Gingrich ad: “What kind of man?”

Which Gingrich is talking now and out of which side of his mouth? Dr. Jeckle or Mr. Hyde? Always seems to be P.T. Barnum though. That’s about the only flimflam consistent.

VorDaj on January 27, 2012 at 6:00 PM

It definitely sucks a bit. I blame twitter.. Also Obama. Hope they all doing well!

saus on January 27, 2012 at 5:52 PM

The last registration brought in some great new people, but with the good you have to suffer through the intolerable. :-/

conservative pilgrim on January 27, 2012 at 6:01 PM

It is not what you say, it is what you do. He can make that argument all day long, and Obama and a bunch of false flag supporters of his will tear Romney down. Romney opens mouth, ads say otherwise. You do remember John Kerry 2004?

astonerii on January 27, 2012 at 5:55 PM

and so the potential voter is motivated how? to vote FOR obama or stay home? that is what we are to assume in this logic? someone who wants obamacare repealed will vote FOR its author OR stay home and guaratee his re-election. does that seem logical to you? thats all i am trying to figure out. how the hell could anyone believe that. really.

t8stlikchkn on January 27, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Hey, Galt, at least Newt has repented and has asked his God and his fellow man for forgivneness. He’s also now in a committed, stable marriage, and has been for years.

As for Romney, though, he continues to associate himself with the cult called Mormanism. Big difference there.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Oh, look, another member of BIGOTS-R-US showed up.

Gunlock Bill on January 27, 2012 at 6:03 PM

Last thought on Romney. He will NEVER have the balls to fight the Democrats who are as nasty and ruthless as it gets. Romney will NEVER repeal Obamacare. He will cower and make excuses why it can’t be repealed. He will work with Democrats to make Obamacare “better “. Romney will NEVER fight the media or their liberal premises because he is one of them deep down.
At least Newt with all his flaws, ex wives and huge gut will fight like hell for the Tea Party and conservatives. It’s so obvious yet so many are obviously easy to manipulate and confuse

magic kingdom on January 27, 2012 at 6:03 PM

magic kingdom on January 27, 2012 at 5:55 PM

The Romney supporters here don’t seem to comprehend just how deeply Charlie Crist is loathed by the majority FL Republicans. I’m not saying that’s enough to cause Romney to lose FL, but hitching your wagon to Crist is not doing yourself any favors.

Flora Duh on January 27, 2012 at 6:04 PM

No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.

i read that as preventing the states from being able to prohibit or require a contract between parties.

chasdal on January 27, 2012 at 5:59 PM

OK. Interesting theory, and certainly more of an effort than anyone else has made.

Now, does the MA mandate in some way interfere with the enforcement of existing contracts? The law doesn’t, AFAIK, wipe out the existing health insurance contracts in MA. So, in what way does it impair the obligations arising from those contracts, or from other contracts not involving health care?

JohnGalt23 on January 27, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Last thought on Romney. He will NEVER have the balls to fight the Democrats who are as nasty and ruthless as it gets. Romney will NEVER repeal Obamacare. He will cower and make excuses why it can’t be repealed. He will work with Democrats to make Obamacare “better “. Romney will NEVER fight the media or their liberal premises because he is one of them deep down.
At least Newt with all his flaws, ex wives and huge gut will fight like hell for the Tea Party and conservatives. It’s so obvious yet so many are obviously easy to manipulate and confuse

magic kingdom on January 27, 2012 at 6:03 PM

You mean like how well Gingrich fought last night.

He pretty much gave up at several points in the debate. It was sad.

luckedout26 on January 27, 2012 at 6:06 PM

Hey, Galt, at least Newt has repented and has asked his God and his fellow man for forgivneness. He’s also now in a committed, stable marriage, and has been for years.

As for Romney, though, he continues to associate himself with the cult called Mormanism. Big difference there.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM

and i’m another one sweetcheeks.

GhoulAid on January 27, 2012 at 6:08 PM

Hey, Galt, at least Newt has repented and has asked his God and his fellow man for forgivneness. He’s also now in a committed, stable marriage, and has been for years.

As for Romney, though, he continues to associate himself with the cult called Mormanism. Big difference there.

jfs756 on January 27, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Oh, look, another member of BIGOTS-R-US showed up.

Gunlock Bill on January 27, 2012 at 6:03 PM

and i’m another one sweetcheeks.

FIFM

GhoulAid on January 27, 2012 at 6:09 PM

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