Rubio to Romney’s rescue? Update: Gingrich retreats

posted at 1:20 pm on January 25, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

And not for the first time this week, either.  Tea Party sensation Senator Marco Rubio has remained officially neutral in the Republican presidential primary race, but that may end up changing, in practice if not in declaration.  Two days in a row, Rubio has come to the defense of Mitt Romney, scolding Newt Gingrich for misrepresenting Romney while campaigning in Florida, this time on immigration (via the Boss Emeritus):

 Sen. Marco Rubio scolded Newt Gingrich’s presidential campaign over a Spanish-language radio ad that accuses rival Mitt Romney of being “anti-immigrant.”

“This kind of language is more than just unfortunate. It’s inaccurate, inflammatory, and doesn’t belong in this campaign,” Rubio told The Miami Herald when asked about the ad.

“The truth is that neither of these two men is anti-immigrant,” Rubio said. “Both are pro-legal immigration and both have positive messages that play well in the Hispanic community.”

Rubio’s sharp rebuke comes a day after he subtly corrected Gingrich for comparing Romney to former Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, branded by conservatives as a turncoat who left the party before Rubio beat him in 2010.

Subtly?  Not exactly.  Rubio slammed the comparison, reminding Florida voters that Romney campaigned for Rubio against Crist in 2010, and was “one of the first national Republican leaders to endorse me.”  The statement didn’t name Gingrich, but the message was clear — Romney made a difference on behalf of Rubio, not Crist, and apparently did more than Gingrich in that effort.  The only thing missing from that statement was a mention of DeDe Scozzafava.

Rubio’s opinion will make a great deal of difference to conservatives in the Sunshine State, which Rubio obviously knows.  He’s taking care not to tip his hand, especially since either one of the two front-runners might want Rubio as a running mate (which I believe would be a mistake for Rubio, but that’s a subject for another post).  However, having to come to Romney’s defense twice to answer attacks from Gingrich — and especially reminding voters which of the two men took Rubio’s side earliest in the Senate race — is bound to have an impact on how conservative Florida voters perceive Rubio’s position.  And given Rubio’s popularity nationally among Tea Party activists and grassroots conservatives, these defenses could have an impact well beyond Florida.

Update: Newt Gingrich’s team has now agreed to pull the ad after more than a dozen Hispanic politicians in Florida joined Rubio in demanding it:

In the wake of Sen. Marco Rubio’s denunciation of Newt Gingrich’s ad calling Mitt Romney ‘anti-immigrant,’ the Romney campaign’s Hispanic leadership team — headlined by former Sen. Mel Martinez — is demanding that Gingrich pull down the radio spot.

But Gingrich already plans to do it.

“We respect Senator Rubio tremendously and will remove the ad from the rotation. We will replace it with a positive message that will continue to focus on drawing contrast between our clear vision on the issues important to the hispanic community and our oponnents lack thereof,” Gingrich’s Florida campaign chairman, Jose Mallea, said.

Looks like Gingrich doesn’t want to force Rubio into choosing sides.


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a vote for Gingrich = a vote for an Obama landslide victory

come November, you will vote for Romney Gingrich, and you will like it.

reference

Flora Duh on January 25, 2012 at 2:37 PM

There has been so much hostility directed towards the anyone but Romney crowd that I don’t see how Romney will have the support that he will need to win. It’s the die hard conservative base that makes the difference in campaigns with their get out the vote efforts. They are not going to be so willing to do those things for Romney’s campaign. I always vote a straight Republican ticket and will do so whoever is at the top. It’s the only way to get rid of Holder and all the czars as well as the danger of more executive orders. But the Romney supporters in media and heading these blogs need to dial their disdain for Newt supporters down a notch or they will be campaigning on their own against Obama.

Rose on January 25, 2012 at 2:30 PM

You’re joking, right?

Have you been on this site for long? Like, the last year and a half?

The sheer amount of venom from “true conservative” party types for ANYONE perceived as “Establishment”, or for those of us who aren’t filled with burning hatred for “Establishment” types, was such that eventually it drove people like me (the actual libertarian sorts) away from the Tea Party altogether.

I get what you’re saying, but let’s not act as if only one side (in the conservative / GOP movement) has been playing nasty. The “true cons” have been giving it pretty good for a long time now, then acting as if they’re helpless / hapless victims against the big bad Establishment. All the while castigating “Establishment” types like Romney as the same as Obama. So let me flip that around on you, and ask you, when you have people saying things like this:

I thinks is pretty clear the Romney tools would vote for BO if Mittens isn’t on the ticket……BO and Mitt’s are nearly identical twins.

David in ATL on January 25, 2012 at 2:18 PM

Which is from earlier in this very comment thread, how are Newt supporters supposed to extend the olive branch to Romney supporters if Gingrich secures the nomination?

It’s the same cycle that’s been going on for months now. “Establishment” vs. “Tea Party / True Cons”. Both sides say “you guys suck”, both sides fully expect the other side to shut up and support them 1000% no matter what.

Vyce on January 25, 2012 at 2:38 PM

“Measured against the scale and momentum of the Soviet empire’s challenge, the Reagan administration has failed, is failing, and without a dramatic change in strategy will continue to fail. . . . President Reagan is clearly failing.”
Newton Leroy Gingrich
Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Link:)

Buy Danish on January 25, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Rose on January 25, 2012 at 2:30 PM

I think it is pretty equal.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Whatever happened to Newt endorsing Reagan’s 11th commandment? I guess if you’ve already set about breaking the real commandments, breaking made up ones isn’t such a big deal anymore.

Swerve22 on January 25, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Newtron wasn’t a real fan of Reagan. Until he wanted to bamboozle Republicans.

“Measured against the scale and momentum of the Soviet empire’s challenge, the Reagan administration has failed, is failing, and without a dramatic change in strategy will continue to fail. . . . President Reagan is clearly failing.”

Newton Leroy Gingrich

“The era of Reagan is over.”

Newton Leroy Gingrich”The era of Reagan is over.”

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:41 PM

He was helping the Romney Cause. You think he did all that from the goodness of his heart? He did it precisely because he knew 2 years later he’d have favors ALL over the country to cash in on.

Where was he in 2004 or 2006 or better yet in 2000 being oh so generous to Republicans ALL over the country? He was donating money to Democrats, that’s where he was.

angryed on January 25, 2012 at 2:31 PM

What is difficult for some of us Romney supporters is that when we post FACTS on here there are those like you angry, right2 bright, asteronii, et al that cannot accept certain posts as truth in regards to Romney. You have to FIGHT and challenge everything!

You also give Romney no benefit of the doubt that he is a good person and does things because it is the RIGHT THING TO DO. He is not cynical as you portray him to be. Every time he has worked in the public sector he took a ONE DOLLAR salary. He was not doing it for the glory or any other cynical reason you apply to him.

By the way in 2004 and 2006 that you mentioned he was Governing his state of MA and also CHOSEN as the head of the Republican Governors Association so someone thought he was good enough. In 2000 he was busy with the Olympics…

I am not naive to think that he also was throwing support to candidates with possibly something in return…its politics after all. BUT he also was TRULY doing it to get a conservative majority back in Congress. Now if he was not conservative as some claim here why would he spend valuable time and MONEY helping TPers get elected? He also WAS OUT THERE! That is the important point. Where was Gingrich? Santorum? Paul? Perry? etc etc…Oh, yeah, Gingrich was collecting a paycheck from FoxNews as a contributor and working for FMaFM as an “influencer”.

Romney meanwhile was helping elect conservative members to Congress. THESE ARE FACTS backed by Congress members OWN statements.

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 2:43 PM

“Measured against the scale and momentum of the Soviet empire’s challenge, the Reagan administration has failed, is failing, and without a dramatic change in strategy will continue to fail. . . . President Reagan is clearly failing.”
Newton Leroy Gingrich
Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Link:)

Buy Danish on January 25, 2012 at 2:40 PM

that will look good on my FB wall…

jimver on January 25, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Rubio needs to save the GOP from Newt Gingrich, an endorsement of Mitt would end this suicide march.

BradTank on January 25, 2012 at 2:47 PM

A vote for Romney = LANDSLIDE VICTORY FOR OBAMA IN NOVEMBER.

jfs756 on January 25, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Cindy and Vyce

I know that it is about equal as far as the posters go, that is why I specifically stated the media. Look at people like Karl Rove, Brit Hume, Ann Coulter, and others like them who are dripping with disdain for anyone who would even think of voting against Romney. These are the people who are causing the base to be demoralized. They are practically calling non Romney voters low life scum. It is the Romney supporting media spokes people who I am referring to.

Rose on January 25, 2012 at 2:48 PM

EXACTLY. Notice how anyone that supports Romney is called some derogatory name…”tool” “Romneybots” “Mittbots” yada yada yada…

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Again with all due respect, it is hardly fair to act like it is only the Romney supporters who get called childish nicknames, and as I pointed out upthread, anyone who does so can hardly expect for their opinion to be taken seriously.

Gingbots have threatened to stay home if their guy’s no the nominee from the very beginning.

I haven’t heard Romney supporters saying they’ll vote for Obama in the general or stay home, but I hear it from every other Gingbots mouth.

All they care about is getting back at what they see is the “establishment” – aka anybody backing Romney and they don’t care if it costs the general, the supreme court, Obamacare becoming permentant, etc. etc.

Ruiner on January 25, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Excatly how I feel! I am a Romney supporter but will easily vote for Newt if he makes it to the general. These Gingbots just wanna take their ball and go home if Romney gets the nod. And do a lot of crying while they’re at it.

Roymunson on January 25, 2012 at 2:00 PM

As for your question:

I can’t speak for other HA commenters, but I have stated repeatedly that I will vote for whoever the nominee is to get rid of Obama. And if you read the Open Thread from last night’s speech you’ll see others saying the same thing.

Flora Duh on January 25, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Flora Duh on January 25, 2012 at 2:49 PM

He was helping the Romney Cause. You think he did all that from the goodness of his heart? He did it precisely because he knew 2 years later he’d have favors ALL over the country to cash in on.

angryed on January 25, 2012 at 2:31 PM

So, helping conservative Republicans get elected by giving time and money is strictly selfish?

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:50 PM

What’s it like to be an ignorant dick who doesn’t want to understand the bigger point and who acts like a petulant teenager?

angryed on January 19, 2012 at 1:45 PM

Why so angry?
Funny. You own this guy.

BedBug on January 25, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Rubio is a perfect fit into the pay to play world of politics it seems. Able to be bought off. Well, it is not like I did not see it coming way back when people were saying how much of the next great hero of the republican party he was. I did not see anything in his speeches to say he was a rock core conservative.

astonerii on January 25, 2012 at 2:50 PM

A vote for RomneyNewtron = LANDSLIDE VICTORY FOR OBAMA IN NOVEMBER.

jfs756 on January 25, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Fixed if for you.

You are welcome.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:51 PM

The following leaders have endorsed Governor Romney for President:
Ana Rivas Logan, State Representative
Anitere Flores, State Senator
Carlos Hernandez, Mayor of Hialeah
Dan Espino, Vice-Mayor of Miami Springs
Eddy Gonzalez, State Representative
Isis Garcia-Martinez, Hialeah City Councilwoman
Jeanette Nunez, State Representative
Jose “Pepe” Diaz, Miami-Dade County Commissioner
Jose Bermudez, Mayor of Doral
Jose Caragol, Hialeah City Councilman
Jose Felix Diaz, State Representative
Jose Oliva, State Representative
Katharine Cue, Hialeah City Councilwoman
Luis Gonzalez, Hialeah City Councilman
Michael Pizzi, Mayor of Miami Lakes
Nelson Hernandez, Miami Lakes City Councilman
Paul Hernandez, Hialeah City Councilman
Pete Cabrera, Doral Councilman
Tim Daubert, Miami Lakes City Councilman
Yioset de la Cruz, Mayor of Hialeah Gardens
Zavier Garcia, Mayor of Miami Springs

Suddenly changing from conservative Republicans to RINOs

/s

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:54 PM

The following leaders have endorsed Governor Romney for President:
Ana Rivas Logan, State Representative
Anitere Flores, State Senator
Carlos Hernandez, Mayor of Hialeah
Dan Espino, Vice-Mayor of Miami Springs
Eddy Gonzalez, State Representative
Isis Garcia-Martinez, Hialeah City Councilwoman
Jeanette Nunez, State Representative
Jose “Pepe” Diaz, Miami-Dade County Commissioner
Jose Bermudez, Mayor of Doral
Jose Caragol, Hialeah City Councilman
Jose Felix Diaz, State Representative
Jose Oliva, State Representative
Katharine Cue, Hialeah City Councilwoman
Luis Gonzalez, Hialeah City Councilman
Michael Pizzi, Mayor of Miami Lakes
Nelson Hernandez, Miami Lakes City Councilman
Paul Hernandez, Hialeah City Councilman
Pete Cabrera, Doral Councilman
Tim Daubert, Miami Lakes City Councilman
Yioset de la Cruz, Mayor of Hialeah Gardens
Zavier Garcia, Mayor of Miami Springs

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 2:15 PM

And what does this tell you – that they are convinced that
with Romney the free ride will continue to roll down that liberal track.

Amjean on January 25, 2012 at 2:37 PM

Amjean…
That is a fairly broad brush and to know their ideology is very insightful by you. :o)

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 2:54 PM

RubioGingrich is a perfect fit into the pay to play world of politics it seems. Able to be bought off. Well, it is not like I did not see it coming way back when people were saying how much of the next great hero of the republican party he was. I did not see anything in his speeches to say he was a rock core conservative.

astonerii on January 25, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Fixed it for you.

You are welcome too.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:55 PM

So, helping conservative Republicans get elected by giving time and money is strictly selfish?

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:50 PM

It is when it is a favor for a favor situation. Romney knew he was going to be running for president. Rubio’s coming to the rescue so forcefully shows that it has more to do with the favor than with ideology. Then again, I have watched Rubio speak, and I never got that conservative vibe that people argued he had. I got the we should all try to play nice together and meet in the middle somewhere, preferably closer to my side of the middle than yours, but hey, we are all in it together kind of vibe myself. Essentially, he started off showing that he was a semi moderate at the least and his voting record in congress thus far has not really diferentiated him from anyone else.

astonerii on January 25, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Hence their eagerness to latch onto ANY new conservative flavor of the month, who might potentially become that next Obama / Reagan. Rubio in Florida, Allen West, Walker in Wisconsin, etc.

Vyce on January 25, 2012 at 2:30 PM

It’s nice to hear a sane voice in the middle of this Gingrich v Romney shitstorm. I’m myself a Walker’s man. Unlike the first two, he – pun not intended – walks the walk, whereas the other two did nothing but good talking so far and already have dents in their resumes.

Archivarix on January 25, 2012 at 2:55 PM

angryeyed keeping it classy.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Quoting me from a week ago. I think Gunlock Billie Bob has a crush.

angryed on January 25, 2012 at 2:56 PM

Fixed it for you.

You are welcome too.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:55 PM

That was no fix. If you want to argue you fixed it, maybe below that statement you could actually argue how so.

astonerii on January 25, 2012 at 2:56 PM

The more I hear Gingrich the more I think I will vote for Obama if Gingrich is nominated. After voting straight R since 1980 Newt’s brand of hyperbole doesnt sit well with me.
He says Romney will say anything but it is clear that Gingrich has no line he won’t cross.

ObamatheMessiah on January 25, 2012 at 2:57 PM

EXACTLY. Notice how anyone that supports Romney is called some derogatory name…”tool” “Romneybots” “Mittbots” yada yada yada…

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 2:31 PM

Again with all due respect, it is hardly fair to act like it is only the Romney supporters who get called childish nicknames, and as I pointed out upthread, anyone who does so can hardly expect for their opinion to be taken seriously.

As for your question:

I can’t speak for other HA commenters, but I have stated repeatedly that I will vote for whoever the nominee is to get rid of Obama. And if you read the Open Thread from last night’s speech you’ll see others saying the same thing.

Flora Duh on January 25, 2012 at 2:24 PM

Flora Duh on January 25, 2012 at 2:49 PM

Flora Duh…I was not referencing you…there are posters like you and Cindy…at times Schade…that I can disagree with and still have an adult conversation with. Others like to bring out the BIG GUNS and start lobbing mortars!

I DO NOT like it when our supporters call people names as well as csdeven and a couple of others as well. Make your point and move on. There doesn’t have to be all this scorched earth.

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Fixed if for you.

You are welcome.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:51 PM

WOW! What a burn! You know how the SOTU was at an 8th grade level….it’s for people just like you, stuck in an “I you are but what am I” state of mind.

angryed on January 25, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Quoting me from a week ago.
angryed on January 25, 2012 at 2:56 PM

So, the passage of time changes its classiness?

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Harlot is synonymous with whore/prostitute.

Nikki sold herself to Mitt in exchange for campaign debt payoff.

Hence she is a whore.

angryed on January 11, 2012 at 4:57 PM

More classiness from angryeyed.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:01 PM

Here’s a better link to the awesomely awesome conduct of Newton Leroy Gingrich towards Ronald Reagan (who btw, co-sponsored the Fairness Doctrine in 1987 – a bill Reagan -in his infinite wisdom- vetoed)

that will look good on my FB wall…
jimver on January 25, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Yep. I posted it a few minutes ago…

Buy Danish on January 25, 2012 at 3:02 PM

So, the passage of time changes its classiness?

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:59 PM

yes, if he repented and asked for forgiveness, as his candidate of choice :-)…

jimver on January 25, 2012 at 3:02 PM

Link:)

Buy Danish on January 25, 2012 at 2:40 PM

hmmm, circa 1986 and yet later

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/01/24/reagans-young-lieutenant/3

“Quite to the contrary of the Romney message, Newt Gingrich was in fact one of Reagan’s Young Lieutenants.

One of the best.”

Written yesterday, read the whole thing by another guy that was there.

DanMan on January 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM

It is when it is a favor for a favor situation. Romney knew he was going to be running for president. Rubio’s coming to the rescue so forcefully shows that it has more to do with the favor than with ideology. Then again, I have watched Rubio speak, and I never got that conservative vibe that people argued he had. I got the we should all try to play nice together and meet in the middle somewhere, preferably closer to my side of the middle than yours, but hey, we are all in it together kind of vibe myself. Essentially, he started off showing that he was a semi moderate at the least and his voting record in congress thus far has not really diferentiated him from anyone else.

astonerii on January 25, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Really? I think even the Gingrich supporters here will disagree with you on this statement above…but if that is how you truly see it then that is the way you see it. Go to YouTube and watch some of his statements from the Floor. They are very impressive and he “speaks” conservatism very well.

I am not sure if you are making the above comment to “soften” the blow he is making against Gingrich? He has stated that they are both conservatives. I agree with him. However, they both have flaws LIKE ALL PEOPLE. We need to realize there is NO perfect conservative. Even those promoting Daniels, Bush, Jindal, Palin, etc all have views that some in the party disagree with.

What we need to learn from this experience is that we need to agree to disagree with some of our candidates but THEY ARE STILL OUR CANDIDATES. similar to I can say whatever I want to my brother but don’t you dare talk smack about MY brother.

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 3:05 PM

So, helping conservative Republicans get elected by giving time and money is strictly selfish?

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 2:50 PM

No, no. See, whenever everyone else does that, including Newt – it’s only in the pure interest of promotiong conservatism.

When Mitt Romney, and ONLY Mitt Romney, helps conservative Republicans, why, that’s just pure selfishness on his part.

Or so I’ve been lead to believe by HotAir True Conservatives™.

Vyce on January 25, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Vyce on January 25, 2012 at 2:38 PM

Excellent.

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

The Ugly American on January 25, 2012 at 3:10 PM

Vyce on January 25, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Dude, where have you been all my life? ; )

The Ugly American on January 25, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Gingrich/Scozzafava 2012 – Why Stop Now?

captn2fat on January 25, 2012 at 3:13 PM

It’s nice to hear a sane voice in the middle of this Gingrich v Romney shitstorm. I’m myself a Walker’s man. Unlike the first two, he – pun not intended – walks the walk, whereas the other two did nothing but good talking so far and already have dents in their resumes.

Archivarix on January 25, 2012 at 2:55 PM

I don’t think you would really perceive me as a “sane voice.”

Because I meant it as a rebuke.

This OBSESSION amongs conservatives at finding the next Reagan? I really view it as a sickness among you.

There’s nothing wrong with looking for someone who is Reaganesque, or who endorses conservatism as passionately as Reagan did. But too many of you have entered this mentality where EVERY conservative politician has to be observed through the “Reagan prism”, and ultimately are found wanting (which is natural, because a politician of Reagan’s caliber comes along MAYBE once a generation), so you become jaded and disenchanted with them and cast them aside or label them as “Establishment” or whatever else you do with those who don’t live up to this impossible measure you’ve created. You’ve sanctified Reagan into some sort of idol. And the man is probably my favorite president of at least the last 50 years, but I feel like you’ve let your search for the “next Reagan” ultimately ruin your political options for at least the last four years.

Vyce on January 25, 2012 at 3:14 PM

Link:)

Buy Danish on January 25, 2012 at 2:40 PM

hmmm, circa 1986 and yet later

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/01/24/reagans-young-lieutenant/3

“Quite to the contrary of the Romney message, Newt Gingrich was in fact one of Reagan’s Young Lieutenants.

One of the best.”

Written yesterday, read the whole thing by another guy that was there.

DanMan on January 25, 2012 at 3:04 PM

Dan…I am not sure your article by a LIAISON of Gingrich’s was as convincing as you wanted it to be…
Example:

THE OTHER EXAMPLE of the kind of “work product” from Newt Gingrich that week was his opposition to Senator Warner’s insistence that the word “superiority” be stricken from the national security section of the platform – a word the Reaganites had insisted be in the 1980 platform. Getting his way in his Subcommittee on National Security, Warner suddenly found himself confronting Gingrich and Kemp over this issue as well. Gingrich insisted on inserting language saying that the U.S. must be “stronger than any potential adversary.” He also insisted the full Platform Committee vote on the issue. The full committee sided with Gingrich and overruled Senator Warner.

Is it any wonder the Washington Republican Establishment can’t stand Newt Gingrich? Doubtless there is some sincere sentiment about his management capabilities, his verbal and intellectual wanderings, and other things that did in fact disappoint conservative leaders over the years of his speakership. Perhaps the WSJ captured the sentiment best when it described the ex-Speaker’s “penchant for over-the-top statements and sudden shifts of strategy or policy based on personal whim.”

You see that last line…THIS is what everyone is worried about with Gingrich even today! It is ALWAYS about securing some destiny in the HISTORY books.

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Rubio stated on Fox & Friends this morning that Gingrich helped him alot while he was in the Florida house of representatives–so I think it is fairer to say that Gingrich was his advocate before Romney. Now, it may be true that Romney gave him money first in his senate race, but we all know that Romney has been strategically supporting politicians for the last 3 years in an effort to have the favor returned when he ran for the presidency.

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Fair & Balanced KSM!!

bluefox on January 25, 2012 at 3:18 PM

I think Rubio is defending conservatism, not a particular candidate.

disa on January 25, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Rubio stated on Fox & Friends this morning that Gingrich helped him alot while he was in the Florida house of representatives–so I think it is fairer to say that Gingrich was his advocate before Romney. Now, it may be true that Romney gave him money first in his senate race, but we all know that Romney has been strategically supporting politicians for the last 3 years in an effort to have the favor returned when he ran for the presidency.

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Yeah, O’Reilly would love that spin.

I cannot for the life of me wonder why people here cannot accept ANY facts about Romney. He has helped MORE TPers and regular Joe Republicans get elected in 2010 than any other person…with the possible exception of Palin. However, her support came via media and endorsements. Romney’s came in the way of MUCH NEEDED cash and campaigning for them. He was ALL over the country and MANY TPer candidates thanked him for it…all while many here on HA at the time had their eyes closed saying Where’s Romney? He was the one raising the cash and campaigning for them while Palin was getting the face time on FoxNews. This is just a fact. I just want to see a little honesty by certain HA posters in recognizing Romney fro this without having to rip him and be cynical about it. I am not saying Kick and Swim is here as I am referring to other Romney bashers…and they know who they are. :o)

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 3:25 PM

No, no. See, whenever everyone else does that, including Newt – it’s only in the pure interest of promotiong conservatism.

When Mitt Romney, and ONLY Mitt Romney, helps conservative Republicans, why, that’s just pure selfishness on his part.

Or so I’ve been lead to believe by HotAir True Conservatives™.

Vyce on January 25, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Oh, THAT explains a lot. Thanks.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:26 PM

Senator Rubio where were you in Nov & Dec. when Romney was destroying Newt with lie after lie in ads he and his super pack were running .Be equal with your criticism or just shut up.

logman1 on January 25, 2012 at 3:26 PM

See, Mitt did do something to advance the conservative cause. Rubio is great, and he decided against backing SOPA!

ajbell on January 25, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Rubio, like many other Republican Senators were for it, before they are now against it.

bluefox on January 25, 2012 at 3:27 PM

I think Rubio is defending conservatism, not a particular candidate.

disa on January 25, 2012 at 3:21 PM

I CONCUR!!!

Well, good nite all from AFG! talk more tomorrow.

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 3:27 PM

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 2:15 PM

Amjean on January 25, 2012 at 2:37 PM

The following is a sample list of Newt Gingrich’s supporters.

United States House of Representatives

Representative Joe Barton of Texas, Chairman Emeritus of the House Energy and Commerce Committee
Representative Michael Burgess of Texas
Representative Phil Gingrey of Georgia
Representative Jack Kingston of Georgia
Representative Tom Price of Georgia
Representative Austin Scott of Georgia
Representative Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia
Representative Andy Harris of Maryland
Representative Trent Franks of Arizona
Representative David Rivera of Florida
Governor, former Presidential candidate Rick Perry of Texas
Governor Nathan Deal of Georgia
Georgia Insurance Commissioner Ralph Hudgens
Public Service Commissioner Stan Wise
Public Service Commissioner Lauren “Bubba” McDonald

State Legislators Florida

Former Miami Mayor Joe Carollo
Former Orange County Mayor Rich Crotty
Vice Mayor of Bradenton and Bradenton City Councillor Patrick Roff
State Senator Jim Norman (District 112)
State Senator Thad Altman (Dist. 24)
Former State Senator John Grant, Sr. (R-Hillsborough)
State Representative Michael Bileca (Dist.117)
State Representative Gayle Harrell (Dist. 81)
State Representative Deborah Mayfield (Dist. 80)
State Representative Carlos Trujillo (Dist.116)
Former State Representative Kurt Kelley
Former State Representative Monica Rodriguez
Former State Representative Luis Rojas
Brevard County Chair William Tolley
Hillsborough County Chair Sam Rashid
Honorary Brevard County Chair Coy Clark
Duval County Co-Chair Bert Ralston
Pinellas County Co-Chair Dr. Miguel Fana
Jacksonville City Councillor Ray Holt
Brooksville City Councillor Kevin Hohn
Former Chairman of Calhoun County Commission Dan Wyrick
Miami-Dade County Commissioner Xavier Suarez
Palm Beach County Commissioner Steve Abrams
Former Leon County Commissioner Ed Depuy
Gingrich Florida Chair College Republicans Nathan Meloon
Gingrich Florida Chair of Young Republicans Christian Waugh

Former officeholders
Former United States Senator, actor, and 2008 Republican presidential candidate Fred Thompson of Tennessee
Former Senator Robert C. Smith of New Hampshire[135]
Former Senator and Governor Zell Miller of Georgia [136]
Former Representative Fred Grandy of Iowa[137]
Former Representative Greg Ganske of Iowa[138]
Former Representative J. C. Watts of Oklahoma[139]
Former Representative John Napier of South Carolina[140]
Former Representative, former Attorney General Bill McCollum of Florida[141]
Former Representative Gary Lee of Florida[142]
Former Governor Sonny Perdue of Georgia[132]
Former Lieutenant Governor André Bauer of South Carolina[143]

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich_presidential_campaign,_2012

Ya see…mine is bigger than yours.

timberline on January 25, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Senator Rubio where were you in Nov & Dec. when Romney was destroying Newt with lie after lie in ads he and his super pack were running .Be equal with your criticism or just shut up.

logman1 on January 25, 2012 at 3:26 PM

He wasn’t needed then because those ads were truthful.

BTW, it was the Paul ads that were so devastating for William Jefferson Gingrich.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Go ahead and endorse Rubio….the circus act from Newt needs to stop NOW.

Redford on January 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM

Slightly O/T:

Well, well, well . . .

http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/25/top-romney-advisers-lobbied-for-freddie/

Apparently, Romney’s top advisors made hundreds of thousands if not millions lobbying for Freddie & Fannie.

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 3:33 PM

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 3:34 PM

I don’t think you would really perceive me as a “sane voice.”

Because I meant it as a rebuke.

This OBSESSION among conservatives at finding the next Reagan? I really view it as a sickness among you.

Newsflash: I am not a Republican. I also happen to agree with you on the matter of “Reagan search”. For all his indomitably conservative views and unrivaled ability to carry the message, the guy was a fairly lousy politician. In any case, the GOP crowd has to get used to the idea that there will be no second coming of Ronald Reagan, and – for better or worse – vote for someone else.

Archivarix on January 25, 2012 at 3:35 PM

If Rubio doesn’t distance himself from Romney soon, Romney will become this huge albatross around his neck and sink him.

CCRWM on January 25, 2012 at 3:35 PM

jimver on January 25, 2012 at 2:45 PM

This would look better.

http://spectator.org/archives/2012/01/24/reagans-young-lieutenant/3

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2012 at 3:36 PM

timberline on January 25, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Yeah, but you double spaced or something. ///////

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newt_Gingrich_presidential_campaign,_2012

Ya see…mine is bigger than yours.

timberline on January 25, 2012 at 3:32 PM

Ah, NO!!! it isn’t.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney_presidential_campaign,_2012

Sorry, the list is too long to post here.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:38 PM

CCRWM on January 25, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Sen. Rubio would be wise not to back either candidate but be available for campaigning in the Fall, when all is decided.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2012 at 3:38 PM

g2528m I’d love to know what you’ve been smoking! LOL

Romney is an opportunist with a big checkbook … that’s all…

CCRWM on January 25, 2012 at 3:41 PM

I cannot for the life of me wonder why people here cannot accept ANY facts about Romney. He has helped MORE TPers and regular Joe Republicans get elected in 2010 than any other person…with the possible exception of Palin. However, her support came via media and endorsements. Romney’s came in the way of MUCH NEEDED cash and campaigning for them. He was ALL over the country and MANY TPer candidates thanked him for it…all while many here on HA at the time had their eyes closed saying Where’s Romney? He was the one raising the cash and campaigning for them while Palin was getting the face time on FoxNews.

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 3:25 PM

Now Romney is calling in his markers. Romney is in it for himself and he started helping all these “regular Joe Republicans” get elected in 2010 so they would be beholden to him when his turn came around. So much for love of mankind and all that swill.

timberline on January 25, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Now Romney is calling in his markers. Romney is in it for himself and he started helping all these “regular Joe Republicans” get elected in 2010 so they would be beholden to him when his turn came around. So much for love of mankind and all that swill.

timberline on January 25, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Yes. I’ve stated the same thing on HotAir at least 5 times in the past several weeks, but people just want to ignore it. Romney is about Romney. Period.

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Ah, NO!!! it isn’t.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney_presidential_campaign,_2012

Sorry, the list is too long to post here.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Yeah, my lists are too long to post here too so we’ll call it a draw….for now.

timberline on January 25, 2012 at 3:43 PM

The following is a sample list of Newt Gingrich’s supporters.

United States House of Representatives

Representative Joe Barton of Texas, Chairman Emeritus of the House Energy and Commerce Committee
Representative Michael Burgess of Texas
Representative Phil Gingrey of Georgia
Representative Jack Kingston of Georgia
Representative Tom Price of Georgia
Representative Austin Scott of Georgia
Representative Lynn Westmoreland of Georgia
Representative Andy Harris of Maryland
Representative Trent Franks of Arizona
Representative David Rivera of Florida
Governor, former Presidential candidate Rick Perry of Texas
Governor Nathan Deal of Georgia
Georgia Insurance Commissioner Ralph Hudgens
Public Service Commissioner Stan Wise
Public Service Commissioner Lauren “Bubba” McDonald

Compared to,

The following is a sample list of Mitt Romney’s supporters.

United States House of Representatives

Representative Rodney Alexander of Louisiana[43]
Representative Mark Amodei of Nevada[44]
Representative Charles Bass of New Hampshire[45]
Representative Judy Biggert of Illinois[46]
Representative Brian Bilbray of California[47]
Representative Rob Bishop of Utah[48]
Representative Diane Black of Tennessee[49]
Representative Mary Bono Mack of California[48]
Representative Ken Calvert of California[47]
Representative Dave Camp of Michigan[50]
Representative John Campbell of California[48]
Representative Jason Chaffetz of Utah, former Campaign Manager and Chief of Staff for Jon Huntsman[51]
Representative Howard Coble of North Carolina[52]
Representative Ander Crenshaw of Florida[53]
Representative Mario Diaz-Balart of Florida[54]
Representative Robert Dold of Illinois[55]
Representative Jimmy Duncan of Tennessee[49]
Representative Jeff Flake of Arizona[56]
Representative Virginia Foxx of North Carolina[52]
Representative Jim Gerlach of Pennsylvania[57]
Representative Timothy Griffin of Arkansas[58]
Representative Michael Grimm of New York[59]
Representative Nan Hayworth of New York[60]
Representative Joe Heck of Nevada[48]
Representative Wally Herger of California[48]
Representative Darrell Issa of California, Chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee[33]
Representative Leonard Lance of New Jersey[61]
Representative Jerry Lewis of California, former Chairman of the House Appropriations Committee[47]
Representative Cynthia Lummis of Wyoming[62]
Representative Connie Mack IV of Florida[53]
Representative Thaddeus McCotter of Michigan,[63] former Presidential candidate
Representative Patrick McHenry of North Carolina[52]
Representative Howard McKeon of California, Chairman of the House Armed Services Committee[64]
Representative Cathy McMorris Rodgers of Washington[65]
Representative Jeff Miller of Florida[66]
Representative Jim Renacci of Ohio[67]
Representative Phil Roe of Tennessee[49]
Representative Hal Rogers of Kentucky, Chairman of the House Appropriations Committee[68]
Representative Mike Rogers of Alabama[48]
Representative Mike Rogers of Michigan[69]
Representative Dana Rohrabacher of California[70]
Representative Todd Rokita of Indiana[71]
Representative Tom Rooney of Florida[53]
Representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen of Florida[54]
Representative Aaron Schock of Illinois[72]
Representative Mike Simpson of Idaho[48]
Representative Lamar Smith of Texas[73]
Representative Greg Walden of Oregon[48]
Representative Ed Whitfield of Kentucky[68]

Do I need to compare more of the categories?

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Sen. Rubio would be wise not to back either candidate but be available for campaigning in the Fall, when all is decided.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2012 at 3:38 PM

This sort of sounds like a Newtbot hoping Rubio won’t endorse, because of where that endorsement may likely go.

Tater Salad on January 25, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Ah, NO!!! it isn’t.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitt_Romney_presidential_campaign,_2012

Sorry, the list is too long to post here.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Yeah, my lists are too long to post here too so we’ll call it a draw….for now.

timberline on January 25, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Willard, Lord Romney has a longer list only because he’s been passing out favors, and campaigning, for 6 years.

Emperor Norton on January 25, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Do I need to compare more of the categories?

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:43 PM

Notice that half of those were in Georgia? If Newt can only get to GA. for a primary then he will have it made.

Tater Salad on January 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM

State Legislators Florida for Newt.

Former Miami Mayor Joe Carollo
Former Orange County Mayor Rich Crotty
Vice Mayor of Bradenton and Bradenton City Councillor Patrick Roff
State Senator Jim Norman (District 112)
State Senator Thad Altman (Dist. 24)
Former State Senator John Grant, Sr. (R-Hillsborough)
State Representative Michael Bileca (Dist.117)
State Representative Gayle Harrell (Dist. 81)
State Representative Deborah Mayfield (Dist. 80)
State Representative Carlos Trujillo (Dist.116)
Former State Representative Kurt Kelley
Former State Representative Monica Rodriguez
Former State Representative Luis Rojas
Brevard County Chair William Tolley
Hillsborough County Chair Sam Rashid
Honorary Brevard County Chair Coy Clark
Duval County Co-Chair Bert Ralston
Pinellas County Co-Chair Dr. Miguel Fana
Jacksonville City Councillor Ray Holt
Brooksville City Councillor Kevin Hohn
Former Chairman of Calhoun County Commission Dan Wyrick
Miami-Dade County Commissioner Xavier Suarez
Palm Beach County Commissioner Steve Abrams
Former Leon County Commissioner Ed Depuy
Gingrich Florida Chair College Republicans Nathan Meloon
Gingrich Florida Chair of Young Republicans Christian Waugh

State Legislators Florida for Mitt.

State Senator John Thrasher, a former chairman of the Florida Republican Party.[53]
State Senator JD Alexander
State Senator Mike Bennett
State Senator Anitere Flores
State Senator Evelyn Lynn
State Senator Stephen Wise
State Senator Nancy Detert
State Senator Garrett Richter
State Representative Will Weatherford[134]
State Representative Chris Dorworth[134]
State Representative Richard Corcoran[134]
State Representative Doug Broxson
State Representative Steve Crisafulli
State Representative Marti Coley
State Representative Fred Costello
State Representative Jose Diaz
State Representative Jim Frishe
State Representative Eduardo “Eddy” Gonzalez
State Representative Ana Rivas Logan
State Representative Charles McBurney
State Representative Larry Metz
State Representative Peter Nehr
State Representative Bryan Nelson
State Representative Jeanette Nunez
State Representative Jose Olivia
State Representative Kathleen Passidomo
State Representative Jimmy Patronis
State Representative Ray Pilon
State Representative Stephen Precourt
State Representative Lake Ray
State Representative Patrick Rooney
State Representative John Tobia
State Representative Mike Weinstein
State Representative Daniel Davis
State Representative Shawn Harrison
State Representative Ed Hooper[113]
Former Director of the Florida Council of 100 Slater Bayliss[135]
Former Chairman of the Florida Board of Education[136]
Former Senior Policy Adviser to Governor Jeb Bush Justin Sayfie[135]
Former gubernatorial campaign manager for Rick Scott, former presidential campaign manager for Jon Huntsman, Jr. Susie Wiles[137]

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Newt didn’t ban guns. Romney banned guns.

angryed on January 25, 2012 at 1:49 PM

“His promise didn’t hold up, however, and his GOA rating quickly dropped like a lead sinker to a “D.” In 1996, the Republican-led Congress passed the “gun free school zones act,” creating criminal safe zones like Virginia Tech, where the only person armed was a murderous criminal. Speaker Newt Gingrich voted for the bill containing this ban.

The same bill also contained the now infamous Lautenberg gun ban, which lowered the threshold for losing one’s Second Amendment rights to a mere misdemeanor. Gun owners could, as a result of this ban, lose their gun rights forever for non-violent shouting matches that occurred in the home — and, in many cases, lose their rights without a jury trial.”

http://gunowners.org/gingrich-mixed-record.htm

Gelsomina on January 25, 2012 at 3:49 PM

This sort of sounds like a Newtbot hoping Rubio won’t endorse, because of where that endorsement may likely go.

Tater Salad on January 25, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Everyone knows where Rubio’s endorsement will go, if he endorses.

These guys know how their bread gets buttered in DC and it ain’t through the Tea Party.

TitularHead on January 25, 2012 at 3:49 PM

Notice that half of those were in Georgia? If Newt can only get to GA. for a primary then he will have it made.

Tater Salad on January 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM

So, he has limited support elsewhere?

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:50 PM

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Gunlock, there seems to be a lot of “Former”s in Newt’s column.

Tater Salad on January 25, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Willard, Lord Romney has a longer list only because he’s been passing out favors, and campaigning, for 6 years.

Emperor Norton on January 25, 2012 at 3:45 PM

+1

SparkPlug on January 25, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Just curious – how did the revelation of Newt’s total net worth of $6.7M strike you all? Was anyone surprised by that number and, if so, was it high or low in your opinion? Just wondering…

sleepingiantsup on January 25, 2012 at 1:37 PM
I wonder if anyone has thought about how much money you need to make 21 million a year in capital gains. figure an avg return of 5%. that means you need 420 million just in investments to make 21 million a year. Not counting the homes and land and business interests That means Mitt’s networth is in the area of +500 million. How does that stike you?

Is that high or low in your opinion? Just wondering

unseen on January 25, 2012 at 2:01 PM

Hi!! Wow, that is a lot of money!! I see you are good at math, in addition to judgement of character:-)

bluefox on January 25, 2012 at 3:53 PM

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:47 PM

So, the establishment favors Romney?

Please, tell me that’s not a surprise for anyone at this point.

TitularHead on January 25, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Oh, I forgot to mention that Romney’s PAC also gave O’Donnell’s campaign money. He covered all his bases. :)

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 2:03 PM

I remember that now that you mentioned it!! It was afterwards that she endorsed him. Yep!

bluefox on January 25, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Gunlock, there seems to be a lot of “Former”s in Newt’s column.

Tater Salad on January 25, 2012 at 3:51 PM

That is one of the categories. I haven’t posted the Romney comparable.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Yes, you are right and Romney also supported Mike Castle of Delaware and Scott Brown of Masachusetts–two people who might as well be democrats.

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 1:57 PM

Gingrich: “Why Scott Brown Will Torment Washington Democrats”

Gingrich predicts Mark Kirk and Mike Castle Victories.

Gelsomina on January 25, 2012 at 3:59 PM

O/T but important:

Well, Romney is caught again on all sides of the Fannie & Freddie issue. Investments in Fannie and Freddie and now his employees were lobbyists of Fannie & Freddie to the tune of hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars. Yet, Romney campaign points finger of accusation at Gingrich.

Mitt Romney’s campaign is attacking Newt Gingrich as an “influence peddler.” But it turns out that some of Romney’s closest advisers (or the firms they lobbied for) were paid hundreds of thousands — maybe millions — of dollars on behalf of failed mortgage giant Freddie Mac.

The Romney campaign did not respond to requests for comment.

According to the AP, former Rep. Susan Molinari — a top Romney surrogate and adviser (watch her attacking Gingrich in this video) — was one of the former GOP lawmakers paid quite handsomely to help stop “any meaningful regulation in the years before the housing mortgage giant crashed …”
She’s not alone. One of Romney’s top economic policy advisers, Vin Weber (whom Politico described as a “former Minnesota congressman and certified member of the D.C. power elite), spent years lobbying for the group. According to the AP, in 2006 alone, Webber’s lobbying firm (Clark and Weinstock) was paid $360,297 by Freddie. And according to the AP, Weber made no bones about his close ties to the failed mortgage giant:

“I personally met with the CEO several times and with Hollis and his team regularly,” Weber said in the e-mail. “Clark and Weinstock worked effectively and intensely for Freddie Mac under Dick Syron [Freddie Mac's then-chairman and chief executive] and [Senior Vice President] Hollis McLoughlin.”
Reached for comment, Gingrich spokesman R.C. Hammond said: “We’d like to know when Gov. Romney is going to ask his own advisers to return their money.”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/01/25/top-romney-advisers-lobbied-for-freddie/#ixzz1kVQ7mxYA

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Yes. I’ve stated the same thing on HotAir at least 5 times in the past several weeks, but people just want to ignore it. Romney is about Romney. Period.

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 3:43 PM

This criticism would hold more punch if it wasn’t used to defend, essentially, Newt Gingrich.

NEWT GINGRICH.

Is there anyone here who would argue, with a straight fact, that Gingrich isn’t all about Newt Gingrich?

Vyce on January 25, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Buy Danish

Whoa! What a difference a fews years can make.

Gingrich went from seeing a Goldwater bumper sticker on a car in ’64 to being almost co-chairman of Reagan’s campaign to criticizing Ronaldus Magnus.

I wonder what Newt was looking at or considering when saying Reagan’s policy toward the Soviet Union. I remember Christmas Day, 1991, when the old Obama…er…Soviet flag came down over the Kremlin.

Some “failing.” Some “acute judgment” on Newt’s part.

Probably was teaching alot of classes at the time and hitting on female interns to help America, so he might have been distracted.

Horace on January 25, 2012 at 4:02 PM

BREAKING: TIME/CNN/ORC Florida poll: Romney 36%, Gingrich 34%, Santorum 11%, Paul 9%. ti.me/z4r3bI

Gingrich’s bounce maybe done. Every new poll I have seen today has Mitt ahead.

rubberneck on January 25, 2012 at 4:03 PM

So, the establishment favors Romney?

Please, tell me that’s not a surprise for anyone at this point.

TitularHead on January 25, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Yeah, and those that are endorsing Gingrich AREN’T establishment.

That is how you tell if the are “establishment” or not. It is also how you tell if they are RINOs or not.

Romney endorsement => “establishment” RINO, (What angryed calls a “whore”)

Gingrich endorsement => non-”establishment” non-RINO, (pure virtuous and selfless conservative)

/s

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Conservatives might want to read Jeffrey Lord’s article in the American Spectator referenced in HA today if there’s any doubt about Newt’s credentials.

cajunpatriot on January 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

The only amusing / frustrating thing about the Gingrich support now is that these same people are acting like he’s a Tea Party champion, when he’s as “Establishment” as Mitt Romney has ever been. Like I said in other threads, the sheer level of intellectual dishonesty that they have to go through to pretend that Newt f***ing Gingrich, perpetual Washington Insider, is some sort of grassroots paragon of Tea Party / true con virtue, is staggering.

Vyce on January 25, 2012 at 2:01 PM

I am a Palinista and was on the Cain train, but I wouldn’t trust Newt as far as I can sh*t.

Gelsomina on January 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Vyce

WRONG!

Newt is about Tiffany’s, the Greek Isles and hitting on female interns to help save the American Republic.

Jeez, don’t you keep up with things?

Horace on January 25, 2012 at 4:07 PM

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

You’re arguing that the Republican establishment is supporting Newt?

Or, they’re evenly split between the two? Seriously?

TitularHead on January 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

If Rubio is such a Romney fan, why isn’t he just a tad concerned that Crist’s people are manning Romney’s campaign in Florida?

Different general but the same army as Crist’s, who ended up leaving the Republican Party, didn’t he?

Why would Rubio throw in with his own opponents?

Portia46 on January 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

This fight has nothing to do with ideology. Nor is it a fight between the establishment and the grassroots. In fact it’s a regional struggle. The South wants to retain control of the party. It’s more populist than truly conservative, but cares passionately about social issues. The NE is lukewarm about social issues but cares passionately about fiscal competency. Most of the swing states line up with the socially moderate NE.

writeblock on January 25, 2012 at 4:11 PM

I am a Palinista and was on the Cain train, but I wouldn’t trust Newt as far as I can sh*t.

Gelsomina on January 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

I like your comment. Reminds me a quote from a guy in the book, Nixon Agonistes, about the ’68 campaign – “I like Nixon. He wipes his butt the same way I do.”

As also a Palinista/Cainiac, I am quite enjoying the circus now going on.

“Ladies and Gentlemen, in the center ring, the death-defying act of Romney-O as he releases his tax return on the high wire!”

Horace on January 25, 2012 at 4:11 PM

I wouldn’t trust Newt as far as I can sh*t.

Gelsomina on January 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Very funny…never heard that one before.

joepub on January 25, 2012 at 4:12 PM

You’re arguing that the Republican establishment is supporting Newt?

Or, they’re evenly split between the two? Seriously?

TitularHead on January 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Fact:Romney has significantly more endorsements than Gingrich.

Fiction:ALL of the Romney endorsements are from “establishment” RINOs.

Fiction:ALL of the Gingrich endorsements are from non-”establishment” true conservatives.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Why would Rubio throw in with his own opponents?

Portia46 on January 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

Uh…the campaign funding sources that Romney can provide to him?

“Money makes the world go ’round, the world go ’round…”

Horace on January 25, 2012 at 4:13 PM

I am a Palinista and was on the Cain train, but I wouldn’t trust Newt as far as I can sh*t.

Gelsomina on January 25, 2012 at 4:04 PM

Well, I was sick once and I could . . .

NEVER MIND.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 4:14 PM

BREAKING: TIME/CNN/ORC Florida poll: Romney 36%, Gingrich 34%, Santorum 11%, Paul 9%. ti.me/z4r3bI

Gingrich’s bounce maybe done. Every new poll I have seen today has Mitt ahead.

rubberneck on January 25, 2012 at 4:03 PM

They’re debating tomorrow in Jacksonville and Newt has ordered his mobs to cheer and boo. He’ll have a stash of one-liners ready to toss. He’ll get another bounce.

Rational Thought on January 25, 2012 at 4:16 PM

If Rubio is such a Romney fan, why isn’t he just a tad concerned that Crist’s people are manning Romney’s campaign in Florida?

Different general but the same army as Crist’s, who ended up leaving the Republican Party, didn’t he?

Why would Rubio throw in with his own opponents?

Portia46 on January 25, 2012 at 4:09 PM

and why would he, it’s not like it’s his campaign to manage or anything…besides, I don’t know what your understanding of all things political is, but these people – the so-called ‘handlers’, bundlers, image-makers, PR experts – they migrate from one candidate/campaign to another, for them it’s just a job…FIY, Perry’s PR team has split in two, some of them are currently working for Romney, some for Gingrich…it’s pretty normal and natural, really don’t see what the problem is…PR people don’t usually have loyalties, that’s npt their job, to be loytal supporters of X or Y candidates…they help them polish and sell an image, that’s all…

jimver on January 25, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Tater Salad on January 25, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Just goes to show what you think and what you know are two very different things. I am a constituent of Sen. Rubio. As a matter of fact I changed my voting registration from unaffiliated to Republican in order to vote for him in the primary. I like him, a lot. Are you aware that before the Florida primary that the National Republican Senatorial Committee endorsed Gov. Crist? I personally don’t believe that any elected official should endorse any candidate in any primaries. I believe it gives the appearance that they know what is best for us, a belief that history would not support. I think Sen. Rubio has a future and I don’t want it marred by silly squabbles and a Vice Presidential run to pander to yet another hyphenated group instead of all of Americans.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Fact:Romney has significantly more endorsements than Gingrich.

Fiction:ALL of the Romney endorsements are from “establishment” RINOs.

Fiction:ALL of the Gingrich endorsements are from non-”establishment” true conservatives.

Gunlock Bill on January 25, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Even if your premises are true, I’m not sure what the point it. What conclusions have you drawn?

Just for fun… which of the Romney endorsements are from anti-establishment types; and which of Newt’s are from establishment RINOs?

TitularHead on January 25, 2012 at 4:19 PM

“Money makes the world go ’round, the world go ’round…”

Horace on January 25, 2012 at 4:13 PM

which is alas, a terrible, terrible thing :-)…

jimver on January 25, 2012 at 4:20 PM

They’re debating tomorrow in Jacksonville and Newt has ordered his mobs to cheer and boo. He’ll have a stash of one-liners ready to toss. He’ll get another bounce.

Rational Thought on January 25, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Yeah, but it’s no longer natural. People will be expecting it. Doubtful John King let’s him do it again.

rubberneck on January 25, 2012 at 4:21 PM

I’m pretty new here, and I’m sure many of you are far more informed than me politically. I’ll tell you that this infighting is not appealing to someone who comes here to learn and occasionally to chime in (awaiting all comments to take my business elsewhere … understood and expected).

There are lots of things I am not sure of, but I am sure of this. If you have a preferred candidate in this fight, and if you say and truly mean “If my candidate isn’t the nominee, I won’t vote for the other nominee / will vote for Obama” or some variation thereof … you need a checkup from the neck up. The possibility of another four years of Obama should scare you far more than anything else that could realistically happen in this political environment. I believe if you are for the victory of conservative ideas in America, you should fight against this possibility as against an invading army.

OneFreeMan on January 25, 2012 at 4:22 PM

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 2:12 PM

What a spin you put on it. No one believes he suddenly became a conservative Tea Party type in his sixties. As he has proven time and again, he’s fully comfortable with liberals holding office.

Stayright on January 25, 2012 at 2:16 PM

I recall Sarah Palin supporting these Candidates, don’t recall Romney doing that. Unless it was money support.

However, since they were elected, I don’t see them upholding Tea Party
policy objectives nor beliefs. For them now to be supporting Romney, I don’t think the Tea Party members would be approving of that.

bluefox on January 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Swerve22 on January 25, 2012 at 2:33 PM

I don’t support either but am about 90% certain , with the aid of 4 inch C-clamp, I will vote for whoever is the not Obama candidate. I would caution that if you are going to raise issues regarding the real (10 Commandments) you want to be careful. “Anyone guilty of breaking one part of the law is guilty of breaking the whole” JC.

While I understand than many hold adultery to be a worse transgression than lying that is not how the Old/New Testament see’s it. Newt as a Catholic and Romney as a Mormon is beholden to those.
Therefore they are both guilty of transgressing the law.

chemman on January 25, 2012 at 4:23 PM

THIS. is what I have been telling anti-Romney posters on HA for the last 9 months that it has been ROMNEY that has been out there with HIS MONEY and SUPPORT long before 2010 to help these TPers get elected in 2010 MORE THAN ANY OTHER PERSON. I am glad Rubio pointed this out!

HA posters to begin calling Rubio, Kelly Ayotte, Nikki Haley, a RINO in 3, 2, 1, ….

g2825m on January 25, 2012 at 2:12 PM

I thought Newt received the Tea Party vote in S.C. I don’t think you can say the Tea Party supports Romney, even if those you mentioned do. They evidently didn’t help in S.C.

Oh, also the Tea Party Express chose Herman Cain to give the SOTU response. It was quite good as he actually countered B.O. statements.

bluefox on January 25, 2012 at 4:28 PM

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