Romney advisor: Come on, ObamaCare won’t ever be repealed in its entirety
posted at 2:30 pm on January 25, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
Former Senator Norm Coleman joined the Mitt Romney campaign in September, but hasn’t made an impact until now — and Romney may have wished he hadn’t. In an interview Sunday for BioCentury, a health-industry roundtable forum, Coleman said that ObamaCare won’t ever be repealed “in its entirety,” and that “you can’t whole cloth throw it out.” Truth telling, bad messaging, or both?
The Hill reported on this yesterday:
Mitt Romney adviser Norm Coleman, a former senator from Minnesota, predicted the GOP won’t repeal the Democrats’ healthcare reform law even if a Republican candidate defeats President Obama this November.
“You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president,” Coleman told BioCentury This Week television in an interview that aired on Sunday. “You can’t whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change what’s been done.”
Ben Domenech says this is significant, because Coleman might end up running HHS in a Romney administration:
There are a number of takeaways from this, but this is a meaningful takeaway in large part because Coleman remains on the short list for a cabinet position in the next administration, and he’s almost assured a position there if he wants it (perhaps even at HHS).
In other words, he’s not your average political pundit.
If Coleman is correct—and I think it’s possible he is—the next Republican president is likely to go through an experience along these lines: an attempt to repeal the whole bill will be made, passing the House but being filibustered in the Senate. Reconciliation can only go so far, and in the wake of a Supreme Court decision knocking down the individual mandate, the right’s political push to repeal the whole of Obamacare is likely to become less pressing (ironically, the Court’s getting rid of the worst part of the law from the public’s perspective may undercut these efforts). The Senate is likely to force instead a compromise position, in which Obamacare is “fixed,” not repealed – made “more market friendly”, as Coleman suggests.
This may be a good end result for many of the stakeholders and the politicians involved. As for the American people, well, that’s a different story.
Erick Erickson says this would be the end of the GOP:
In fact, the entrenched legislative bureaucracy has a great deal to do with congressional disapproval in the public. Republican staffers want to inch the ball down the field instead of fighting. Democrat staffers are far more aggressive.
If a Republican gets into the White House and does not sweat blood trying to repeal Obamacare in its entirety (regardless of success), I predict the end of the Republican Party legitimately. It won’t be worth fighting for if the party itself does not think it worth fighting for its voters. If the GOP takes back the White House, it’s voters will expect a real fight, not a half-hearted attempt.
I’d say that this is an uncharacteristic stumble for a very smart man, perhaps feeling pressure to be “reasonable” in this forum. Coleman clearly lays out the problems with ObamaCare, but acknowledges that the health-care sector needs some kind of reform, and prefers it to be market-based. So far, so good. However, even if that market-based reform involves elements of the PPACA, why not just say we can repeal the whole ObamaCare structure and start from scratch, keeping an open mind to some elements within the PPACA as we do? That sounds a lot better than “you can’t whole cloth throw it out,” especially when the candidate for whom Coleman consults is saying that he wants exactly that.
I’d call this bad messaging, and Romney should address it sooner rather than later if he wants to defuse it before Thursday’s debate.
Update: The Romney campaign responded that while the candidate respects Coleman, he disagrees with this assessment, according to Ramesh Ponnoru. Ponnoru goes on to criticize the notion of partial repeal:
Getting Obamacare repealed will be very difficult. But it’s not clear what alternative Coleman has in mind, or could have in mind. Some Republicans have talked about getting rid of the law’s least popular provisions, notably the individual mandate, while keeping its most popular provisions, especially the command that insurance companies not take account of customers’ pre-existing health conditions. Coleman himself suggested that the courts might strike down the mandate and Congress might strike down IPAB (the Medicare cost-cutting/rationing board). But if the mandate goes, the insurance regulations have to go too: There’s no way insurance markets could work if you could wait until you were sick to buy insurance. The subsidized exchanges wouldn’t work either if people could jump on them when convenient. Take out IPAB, too, and all that’s left of Obamacare is the expansion of Medicaid. It’s hard to believe that you could build a legislative coalition to get rid of all of Obamacare except for that-especially since undoing that expansion would be key to any Republican bill’s claims to cut the deficit and thus to qualify for the “reconciliation” process needed to avoid a filibuster.
Obamacare could be tweaked by, for example, changing its funding streams. It could be moved leftward, through the introduction of a public option. Or it could be left alone entirely. Those are the options: Repeal, tweak, expand, or do nothing. Which option Republicans should choose is not a hard call.









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From a legislative standpoint, yes, it can be done. Congress cannon write legislation that binds a future congress, so a repeal bill could certainly be written and passed.
From a political standpoint, if 60 votes are required it will be hard. This is the heavy lift.
Froma policy implementation standpoint, it will be hard to undo all that has already been done but not impossible.
The 60 votes in the Senate will be the hardest part. Although since the law was made via reconcilliation then there is no reason it can’t be undone the same way….
dczombie on January 25, 2012 at 4:12 PM
Why not?
Given that the majority of Republicans are conservative managerial progressives of course they won’t vote to toss it. So Romney will be off the hook about his statement to repeal it.
TrueKing was correct: The Republican Party will betray you. They have been betraying small government and Fiscal conservatives since 1928. Unless the small government conservatives (Republican, Democratic and Independents) keep voting out the incumbents until small government conservatives are a majority it will be more of the same. Which will occur first the fiscal train wreck or sanity. I’m hoping for sanity but suspect the fiscal train wreck.
chemman on January 25, 2012 at 4:14 PM
Or this.
“I may be beating on a dead horse here, but this topic keeps coming up on the forum and I think it needs substantive expansion and more pounding of nails.
Look folks, this is mathematics at a “macro” (that is, “everyone’s involved”) level. The Federal Government went from spending $53 billion on health care (all forms) in 1980 to over $800 billion last year. Private insurance costs have risen by some 9% annually for the last 30 years. The Federal Government’s spending has tracked this rate of expansion as well, which means that the commonly-held claim that this is all about “more elderly people on the government tit” is false; the working population is roughly constant in age.
The Republican Party (and the “Tea Party” contingent within it) have repeatedly stated that “nobody over 50″ is going to have their Federal Government medical benefits tampered with. Roughly, your life expectancy in the US is 85. This means that if you’re 50 today you have some 30 years of life left.
At a 9% escalation per year your medical costs — whether insurance or government spending — will multiply by a factor of 13.3 over the next 30 years.
That is, if you spend $600 a month now, assuming you did not get older or sicker, you would spend $7,980 a month in 30 years on your health insurance, or some $95,760 per year.
The Federal Government will spend not $800 billion but $10.64 trillion on health care at this rate in 30 years.
Neither of those things is going to happen; the money does not exist.
But this is the path we are on when you can demand a bypass, a hip replacement and $200 tests. When the cost of Juanita the illegal Mexican, giving birth is forced upon you as an American Citizen. When you may make lifestyle choices that severely impact your health and yet force someone else to pay for them.
If you keep believing in this, America, you are going to die sooner than you should, because what you believe in will not happen.
You therefore have two choices: You can either go “baaaaaaahhhh!” like a Sheep right up until the medical system collapses, at which point if you are dependent on it for a drug, procedure or device you will die or you can do what you can to change the course of your life and with a reasonable probability avoid that outcome.
That’s all there is folks. This is not about what someone wants and it is not about what you think you can demand. It is about mathematics.
Let’s talk about the cost picture for a minute. I’m going to pick on one common test — HbA1c, used to measure long-term glucose control. It is commonly used among diabetics to monitor not their instant blood sugar but how well they control it over time. The test measures the amount of damage in the blood caused by excessive swings in blood sugar over the last four months or so (the normal lifespan of a red blood cell); once a cell is damaged in this fashion it remains damaged. A “normal” range for a non-diabetic person is between 4 and 6%; diabetics with excellent control can approach normal but few achieve it. Elevated values are very bad; levels over 7% are strongly associated with serious complications.
For an apparently-healthy person who is not attempting any sort of intervention for diabetes this test is far better in diagnosing trouble than a single fasting glucose test, since it checks damage over time as opposed to “at the present instant.”
Ok, so there’s the background. Now why do I bring this specific (and common) medical test up as an example?
That’s easy: I can easily find prices for this as a lab test and outside the lab.
The lab price of this test is about $65 from my survey around the web of various medical labs. But at WalMart I can buy two tests for $30 and perform the test myself at home in three minutes.
In other words the “doctor” price — where cost-shifting, monopoly behavior and other games are present is four times that of the competitive price in an open market.
Never mind the privacy issues — if I go to a lab the lab gets to choose who obtains the information. If I have “insurance” then that data becomes part of my indelible record for anyone who has “a financial interest” in my medical care to look at forever. If I buy the test and take it at home, I control who gets the information and on what terms since I paid for it with my own money and only one pair of eyeballs sees the result.
But on a cost-control basis, even leaving the privacy issues aside, why doesn’t the local doctor’s office simply buy these boxed products from WalMart and use them? They’re approved by the FDA and as such they have to be “lab-style accurate” or they wouldn’t be. Both use blood samples so the testing methodology is the same.
Here’s the answer: The entire medical system is built upon the premise of intentionally distorting price and cost-shifting on a massive scale, along with controlling you by denying you the right to control information about your own medical status and how it’s used.”
Rest here:
http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?singlepost=2835278
riverrat10k on January 25, 2012 at 4:15 PM
Part of the reason I’m supporting him is because he was able to get the Contract With America through multiple roadblocks and through Clinton. It is hardly a certainty that he doesn’t have the votes.
Furthermore, as the president, he will have a reinvigorated Tea Party backing him and a big bully pulpit from which to pressure recalcitrant Congressmen. He will probably have enough initial support, especially after victory, to get a repeal of Obamacare pushed through. The legislation is still so unpopular among the people that even the “good parts” should get repealed without too much trouble.
At that point we can attempt free market solutions to help bring costs down, such as allow the sale insurance across state lines.
Obamacare is not popular – it always polls badly – and talks about how “the population really likes it” is just garbage coming from a corrupt Washington establishment.
Doomberg on January 25, 2012 at 4:16 PM
Yeah right, like McConnell will make that happen. Harry Reid needed 51 to pass. McConnell will need 60 to repeal. Which means we will need 65 Republicans to allow for 5 RINO traitors. Which means it will never be repealed.
angryed on January 25, 2012 at 4:16 PM
I understand your points – I hope you get that I was just making a basic, underlying applies-to-all point. In the case of a severe condition a (formerly) healthy insured person’s premiums do not cover the cost anymore than does the pre-existing insured person’s premiums. I suspect a yearly premium wouldn’t even cover a run of the mill hospital stay for an appendectomy. And the cost to have a baby these days, yiiii.
Yeah, the disappearing primary care doctors are a big concern. I remember when they were called a “family doctors” and made house calls.
whatcat on January 25, 2012 at 4:17 PM
Well said. The thing is that Mittens and his supporters are wimps who don’t want to fight to repeal Obamacare.
At least we know Newt is not afraid to fight.
LevinFan on January 25, 2012 at 4:21 PM
Newt was in govt for 20 years. Did he ever bring up a bill for a mandate? Did he ever co-sponsor a bill? As speaker did he ever form a committee to look into a mandate? No, no and no.
Romney implemented the mandate as governor.
See the difference between the two?
Actions vs. words.
I know eventually you’ll figure it out.
angryed on January 25, 2012 at 4:21 PM
Let’s get President Newt in first before we give up. If we can get him into the presidency, he will have enormous power to pressure McConnell with. He knows how Congress works and knows how to get things through hostile politicians.
Newt’s pretty much our last chance to turn things around.
Yeah, Denninger’s a genius when it comes to explaining economics in simple terms (he hates the Tea Party though, it’s a real shame). His writing about our debt problem is brilliant and was a real eye opener into just how unbelievably bad the situation is.
Doomberg on January 25, 2012 at 4:21 PM
You mean McConnell is a weak Establishment wimp just like Mittens?
LevinFan on January 25, 2012 at 4:22 PM
You may be right. And your cynicism is certainly not without merit, all things considered. Still, I hope you are wrong.
dczombie on January 25, 2012 at 4:22 PM
Norm Coleman “very smart?” – No!
While a Senator Norm voted against allowing us to drill for oil in a measly 2000 acres of the Alaska National Wildlife Reserve’s 1.5 million acres of the Coastal.
Norm Coleman is a former Democrat who never really left his liberalism behind.
After President Bush and the Republicans welcomed Norm into the Republican Party Norm almost immediately came out against the Bush tax cuts. It was only after many thousands of letters, calls, and Faxes did Norm finally voted for the tax cuts. That was to be Norm’s entire career as a Republican; he’ll occasionally do the correct thing if we work on him and pressure him enough.
That rino Norm is working for Romney and may even be appointed head of HHS in a Romney administration is very telling.
RJL on January 25, 2012 at 4:26 PM
It would be best to stop saying these guys are spineless. They’re not. They’re just on the other side and should be treated as the enemy.
Doomberg on January 25, 2012 at 4:27 PM
How did the RINOs vote on Obamacare or the cloture last year? Anybody know?
That would be McCain, Murkowski, Brown, The Maine Twins, Graham and one or two others.
spiritof61 on January 25, 2012 at 4:28 PM
I still DEMAND they repeal this on reconciliation. If they cheated to pass it on reconciliation, the exact same method HAS to be used to repeal it. Make the Dems EAT THIS.
karenhasfreedom on January 25, 2012 at 4:31 PM
One of the maine sisters voted to allow the bill to leave the committee. This whole disaster could have been avoided had not that beeyotch done that. While she voted against the overall bill, she KNEW it would pass if it left the committee.
karenhasfreedom on January 25, 2012 at 4:33 PM
This was a change that was only recently made in MA. After passage of RomneyCare there was a lot of gaming of the system – people buying insurance when they got sick or needed services, and then dumping it afterward. What made it worse was that MA has modified community rating, so those gaming the system in that fashion are largely able to insulate themselves from the cost of doing so. An “open enrollment” period was recently implemented to address this issue.
Just Sayin on January 25, 2012 at 4:33 PM
A quick way to realize immediate savings in MediCAID is to prohibit those recipients from calling 911 and demanding EMS transport and emergency room treatment for the sniffles or an ingrown toenail.
Key West Reader on January 25, 2012 at 4:42 PM
The guy couldn’t beat Al Franken.
Who cares what he says?
Bruno Strozek on January 25, 2012 at 4:42 PM
Put her down as a Dem. If we can get half the RINOs to vote for repeal, we may have enough for cloture if we clean up in November as expected. One or two shaky Dems may cave as well. A close shave but it can be done. It would be a Stupak in reverse.
spiritof61 on January 25, 2012 at 4:44 PM
Yes, and don’t you remember her grand excuse of history calling her?
INC on January 25, 2012 at 4:48 PM
Yup: Far-Left Dem Rep. Jan Schakowsky: If We Lose In November It “Makes It Impossible” To Pass “Single-Payer” Socialized Healthcare Legislation…
slickwillie2001 on January 25, 2012 at 4:48 PM
Don’t be silly. The severability clause is clearly located in the “penumbras” and “emanations”.
PackerBronco on January 25, 2012 at 4:54 PM
Erickson has no credibility at all unless you believe Perry is still going to win the nomination.
Some thoughts: one can hardly argue it is improper to repeal under reconciliation rules that which was passed under those rules. Without that trick, we wouldn’t have the dang law in the first place. So Coleman is wrong on this point.
Secondly, the lack of a severability clause means if the individual mandate is struck down, so should the whole law. That’s the reason every law Congress passes contains a severability clause. Pelosi and Reid and Obama were just incompetent in leaving it out in their frantic rush to pass the bill.
Third, Coleman’s remarks remind me of a tale of two old maiden aunts in the country in the Depression. There was a visiting young doctor from the North making the rounds who examined them and found one with high blood pressure, and prescribed her pills. He told her she had “bad blood,” not realizing this was a euphemism for syphilis in the rural South at the time.
The diagnosed sister was indignant, saying to the other: “Even if it were true, he didn’t have to say it.” The same applies to Coleman.
Adjoran on January 25, 2012 at 4:56 PM
And the Republicans are going right along with it.
Hell, they’re probably competing with the Democrats for credit for single payer.
Doomberg on January 25, 2012 at 4:58 PM
If Erickson is wrong on some things, does that mean he’s wrong on everything? That’s one of those logical fallacies of generalization.
Coleman’s an advisor to Romney, not some remote Republican.
INC on January 25, 2012 at 5:00 PM
I trust any Republican that wins in 2012 understands that if they back off from total repeal, they will be a one term president, unable to secure the nomination for term two.
EconomicNeocon on January 25, 2012 at 5:12 PM
TOLD YA SO!!! EAT IT RINOS!!!!
abobo on January 25, 2012 at 5:13 PM
This guy looks like he fell off the Romney Family tree.
Egfrow on January 25, 2012 at 5:15 PM
Soap Box.
Ballot Box.
AMMO Box.
There is an order for dealing with Tyranny in the USA.
SilverDeth on January 25, 2012 at 5:18 PM
thats why he’s so darn “electable”. this is how you reach out to moderates. anyone of you fools who are supporting Romney because “he’s the true conservative” had better plan on having Obamacare etched in stone for eternity, because it’s safe with Mitt.
exceller on January 25, 2012 at 5:19 PM
They aren’t going to repeal it all. Campaign donations are #1. I doubt seriously if the Republicans do anything but tinker with it. Unless the Supremes overturn it, we’re going down the same road with Dems or Reps in charge.
RADIOONE on January 25, 2012 at 5:28 PM
Sorry, I’m not wrong.
How long has social security been around without any reform, medicare, medicaid, illegal immigration ? Decades.
We’re stuck with it.
cougar on January 25, 2012 at 5:30 PM
I hate to say I told you so! Rino Romney has NO sack.
Newt 2012 now for sure!
jjnco73 on January 25, 2012 at 5:32 PM
So it makes perfect sense that of all we nominate tha man that was the architect of O’care.
Coleman is preparing us not to have our hope high.
evergreenland on January 25, 2012 at 5:33 PM
And this genius lost to Al Franken what a shock.
EMD on January 25, 2012 at 5:38 PM
How about welfare reform of 1996? (Need I remind you who was actually worked to get that done?).
Of course there needs to be reform, but to have a chance to accomplish it you’re going to need someone with some moxie to actually push for it and someone articulate enough to be able to spell out for the public why it has to happen. (Romney’s not that guy).
I’d also guess that some of the Tea Party reps probably now realize they have to take on Dems, some Rs and the media–and it’s going to take being touch and digging in their heels.
INC on January 25, 2012 at 5:39 PM
Myth Romney, the self-described “progressive” and author of socialized medicine in this country, is as sincere about repealing ObamaCare as he is about
immigration, carbon taxes, and a woman’s “right to choose,”imposing a VAT tax, which until now has always been exclusively the Democrats’ wet dream.Good Lord, Mitt is a disaster waiting to happen for the country.
Typhonian on January 25, 2012 at 5:43 PM
Aaargh!
I’m tired and that was all I could muster…
Fallon on January 25, 2012 at 5:45 PM
This is why you can not trust Ed Morrisey. He lies.
He knows full well Romney will repeal Obamacare… and uses someone else’s words… again!!! to try to make Romney look bad.
This is deception.
This is a bald faced lie.
Ed Morrisey I hope Salem communciation paid well for your soul!
You will never be trusted by any thinking person after the lies you have told this Primary!!!
You are a liar and a hypocrite.
petunia on January 25, 2012 at 5:46 PM
RINO doesn’t describe him any longer. You should call him what he is – a Democrat.
Doomberg on January 25, 2012 at 5:53 PM
disgusting. if mitt doesn’t boot this guy from the campaign then he is complicit in this strategy. terribly disheartening that we have this coward so close to one of the GOP frontrunners.
@obamuh on January 25, 2012 at 5:54 PM
Take your meds or have a stiff drink.
Coleman said it.
Coleman is a Romney advisor.
Ed provided an update…
Don’t call someone a liar when they are not.
Fallon on January 25, 2012 at 5:58 PM
OH look Ed… isn’t this your owners now…
Newt Gingrich’s affairs make him normal and more electable.
http://thinkprogress.org/lgbt/2012/01/25/411545/gingrich-my-affairs-make-me-more-normal-more-electable/?mobile=nc
Christian Broadcasting network… isn’t that Salem… the people who own Ed’s soul?
Well well…. just when I thought the hypocrisy could not be shoveled any deeper.
Please you people who call youselves Christians… go join the Democrats they have said this for years now.
Is this what all Christian believe or just the ones who hate Mitt Romney?
petunia on January 25, 2012 at 5:59 PM
I have seen Ed lie about Romney for months. My accusation stands.
petunia on January 25, 2012 at 6:00 PM
He did post a follow up that has a spokesman for Romney commenting. You might want to check that out.
Can’t really blame the messenger except for any slant and really we should know better and do our own reading and follow up rather than to accept the word/slant of ANY blogger, no offense intended.
kim roy on January 25, 2012 at 6:02 PM
Why is there no budget? For a 1000 days, the US has not had a budget. The reasoning is simple. The House could kill ObamaCare simply by not including it in any bill.
As long as CRAs are used, ObamaCare gets its funding.
BobMbx on January 25, 2012 at 6:03 PM
My favorite line of this article:
Hahahaha. At least we have Erickson to pull out his trusty apocalyptic prophet routine. According to Erick, anything short of electing Rick Perry, or resurrecting Ronald Reagan, is going to lead to the end of conservatism and/or the GOP. What a hack.
BocaJuniors on January 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM
Deemed. Get familiar with that word.
BobMbx on January 25, 2012 at 6:06 PM
I think in earlier comments someone called Coleman’s statement preparing the ground for Romney to shift, and someone else said it was a trial balloon.
Those are both more feasible than thinking this was a misstep by Coleman.
INC on January 25, 2012 at 6:07 PM
Geesh, it’s not like the update is new. She didn’t comment until the thread had been up for over three hours and she is mad at Ed? If the threads aren’t singing Hosannas to Gov. Romney it means Ed’s in the tank for Gingrich.
Cindy Munford on January 25, 2012 at 6:11 PM
+1
kunegetikos on January 25, 2012 at 6:19 PM
I think in earlier comments someone called Coleman’s statement preparing the ground for Romney to shift, and someone else said it was a trial balloon.
Those are both more feasible than thinking this was a misstep by Coleman.
INC on January 25, 2012 at 6:07 PM
Or, Romney is in trouble in Florida and needs cross-over dems to win. Just a thought!
jjnco73 on January 25, 2012 at 6:22 PM
Petunia, if you don’t like ED’s writing, leave. Please leave.
kingsjester on January 25, 2012 at 6:49 PM
Oromney is a lying elitist liberal who will do absolutely nothing to repeal Oromneycare. Why would he as POTUS since he defends it to any dumbazz who will listen.
they lie on January 25, 2012 at 6:59 PM
Tinfoil rule #47
kunegetikos on January 25, 2012 at 7:07 PM
I will read the comments later. In case no one else has posted the point, we see why “no fight” Coleman lost to Franken with just this kind of go-along-to-get-along Romney attitude.
onlineanalyst on January 25, 2012 at 7:10 PM
End of Republic if O-care/R-care is not repealed.
Hello UK. We are then toast short of you know what.
KirknBurker on January 25, 2012 at 7:14 PM
Simple.
He will mandate every state to have romneycare.
tinkerthinker on January 25, 2012 at 7:14 PM
I freaking told ya so. In another thread I said Romney is the type of guy to trade a Cass Sunstein nomination for help “fixing” Obamneycare. Now he has a potential cabinet pick saying exactly that. Rush-like accuracy ;-)
Theworldisnotenough on January 25, 2012 at 7:15 PM
Denninger is very good on economics, but I find his politics bizarre. He was, and might still be, a supporter of the Occupy movement, and he voted for Obama. As best as I can figure him out, he’s a libertarian with a soft spot for Left wing policies, and he loathes conservatives as total hypocrites. I don’t read him anymore, since he was getting repetitive so I stopped. But if you haven’t read him at all, he’s worth reading for a while. Just be aware of his general point of view.
Gladtobehere on January 25, 2012 at 7:22 PM
This is how much of the political class thinks — we can’t repeal because it would be toooo hard…we can’t repeal because the focus groups say it makes us look like bad people…we can’t repeal because we wanna go along to get along…we can’t repeal because it’ll upset the status quo…
The worthless pos’s…
Gohawgs on January 25, 2012 at 7:23 PM
Then you start from scratch, perhaps by beginning with what Rep. Paul Ryan proposed at the “summit” when Oblame-o dissed him
onlineanalyst on January 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM
Republicans won’t repeal it. They are, in fact, for it, only they aren’t going to tell us that. They will lose to Democrats, once again, in the following election cycles after 2012, as a result.
rickv404 on January 25, 2012 at 7:31 PM
He’s a Romney spokesperson. It wouldn’t surprise me if Romney feels the same way. I’ve never thought that Romney was anything but a Massachusetts Liberal masquerading as someone more moderate or conservative in order to run for POTUS, just like Kerry or Dukakis did. Only being in the Democratic party, Kerry or Dukakis didn’t have to masquerade quite as much. Maybe Coleman has some of the same tendencies. Birds of a feather, you know.
Gladtobehere on January 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM
I know I’m chiming in what the rest have said but we’re talking about a guy that made it close enough against Franken that Al had a chance to steal it.(If it isn’t close they can’t cheat) I mean we’re talking about a guy who lies constantly, didn’t pay his taxes, has anger issues and pretty much openly hates Minnesota and Norm couldn’t blow him out of the water? Norm just blew it.
Dave_d on January 25, 2012 at 7:38 PM
I heard a snippet on Fox this afternoon that if the SCOTUS overturns Obamacare that the GOP has its own plan for healthcare reform. It starts with 3 big steps: 1) Reform medical malpractice; 2) Put those with pre-existing conditions in a higher pool and not turn them down or affect other insureds; and 3) Allow health insurance to cross state lines.
All 3 of those would make a huge difference in your health insurance premiums.
Voter from WA State on January 25, 2012 at 7:53 PM
Ramesh Ponnoru spends a good bit of his energy being a Romney apologist.
onlineanalyst on January 25, 2012 at 8:08 PM
This is why you can not trust Ed Morrisey. He lies.
Um, I think it was Coleman saying this. Not Ed. What the he!! alternate universe do you live in?
chewmeister on January 25, 2012 at 8:08 PM
I used to hang on Ed’s every word… then he started lying about Romney and misrepresenting his record… this is clearly an attempt to make Romney look guilty by association… as usual.
No one is more shocked and appalled to find Ed to be so utterly dishonest than I.
petunia on January 25, 2012 at 8:12 PM
I fully expect to come back some time and be banned.
I have taken off Hot Air from my book marked sites… this used to be my prime site… until it started lying about Romney.
You can see who this site caters to now… by the hypocrites who have commented above…
Complete and utter lies from complete and utter hypocrites.
We apparently must be communists and adulterers now to be a true conservative Republican.
AS for me and my house we will serve the Lord. Good day hypocrites.
petunia on January 25, 2012 at 8:16 PM
Funny!
Gladtobehere on January 25, 2012 at 8:16 PM
Coleman isn’t the first Republican to say something like this. Corker of Tennessee was even more blatant when he said it would never be gotten rid of and David Dreier of California as well. Dole came out for the thing. These Republicans are not seriously opposing Democrats. People need to wake up. I think we need to repeal the Republican party.
rickv404 on January 25, 2012 at 8:27 PM
Romney said that the first thing he would do as President is to close agencies who are wasting money. The first one he would close is the one overseeing Obamacare. First, second and last . . . no President can repeal Obamacare, only Congress. He can sign the act that would repeal Obamacare, but by himself he cannot repeal it. He can, though, make it almost impossible to exist.
Voter from WA State on January 25, 2012 at 8:36 PM
Well looky here, our lil annual flower popped up…
Mitt said he would sign an Executive Order allowing States to opt out. Meaning, 26 or so States would and 24 or so States would not…That is not a repeal. ONLY Congress can repeal the law if the SCOTUS doesn’t deem it unconstitutional.
Gohawgs on January 25, 2012 at 8:47 PM
Yep. The problem with leaving the law on the books is that a future Congress or President can revive it simply by funding it or by rescinding the EO…
Gohawgs on January 25, 2012 at 8:49 PM
I’ve never paid attention to the bias here – I figure it’s more for the hits than any bias. Gonna get more rage and pounding keyboards from a “we should keep Obamacare” headline than a “well, it might be hard to repeal it” meandering. Or whatever point Coleman, et al, are trying to make.
Point taken though. ;)
kim roy on January 25, 2012 at 9:18 PM
Rick Santorum = trustworthy
exdeadhead on January 25, 2012 at 9:23 PM
we are so screwed. the fix is in. the choice between obama and mitt is fairly disgusting. this is what the gop has descended to. why anyone would think mitt will change anything much less obamacare.
ilive in western MA where all the conservatives in MA live. i guess we’re better prepared for a hopeless future than the rest of the country. i really admire the tea party but get real guys, you are really pissing in the wind. but i wish you all the luck in the world
i am quite sure that obama will be re-elected because america has never elected a venture capitalist president and never will. mitt is even worse fit than mccain a war hero when the country was tired of war. now we will have a wealthy guy when the prevailing wind is inequality. we do not have our heads screwed on right. so my advice is to try and enjoy life and relax. and drink heavily
rik on January 25, 2012 at 9:26 PM
i agree. but about about 60 years too late
rik on January 25, 2012 at 9:29 PM
I think we’re going to have to march on DC even if we elect a GOP President and Congress.
Hold their feet to the fire.
dukecitygirl on January 25, 2012 at 9:56 PM
Cuckoo, cuckoo…
dukecitygirl on January 25, 2012 at 9:57 PM
petunia on January 25, 2012 at 8:16 PM
Why does Ed need to LIE about Ken-Doll? That’s a stupid, nay downright farcial premise on it’s damn face – Mittbot is unelectable on his own hard-earned merits – Mr. Morressy hardly needs to make up jack-s&^% to portray the clod as a useless liberal hunk of garbage.
Let us look at Mitt’s accomplishments:
Mitt Romney Accomplishment Number 1: Communist health care.
Mitt Romney Accomplishment Number 2: Taking guns from law abiding citizens.
Mitt Romney Accomplishment Number 3: Appointing liberal judges.
Mitt Romney Accomplishment Number 4: Supporting the global warming scam.
Mitt Romney Accomplishment Number 1: Spending like a drunken Democrat.
With a resume like that, why in God’s name would you think for one second that Ed or anyone else for that matter, needs to fabricate ANYTHING to make Ken-Doll look like the pile of statist vomit clad in an Armani suit.
PS: Hell he’s so bad he damn near accomplishes the impossible – that is making NEWT-FRIGGIN-GINGRICH look almost palatable by contrast… dear god… how bad do you have to be when Mr. I-love-FDR-Woodrow-Wilson starts looking GOOD!!!?!?!?!?!?!
SilverDeth on January 25, 2012 at 10:04 PM
weapon fees skyrocketed here in MA under mutt. along with about 700
million $ in aditional fees. but he didn’t raise taxes because he knew was non starter. fooled you mutt supporters. it’s great having to pay an extra fee for constitutionally protected right.
rik on January 25, 2012 at 10:43 PM
Progressives in BOTH parties practically are orgasmic about the thought of the power they will have over we serfs when they link everything from Twinkie production to Harley Davidsons’ being a healthrisk.
They can say VOC’s are harmful and regulate what type of paint you can have. They can regulate water consumption, force conception, use the Death Panels, offer incentives for family members if the older ones “bonus out” and report to the Self-hospice clinic.
……and the gop wants this power just like the dems do.
……and it’s just downright evil.
PappyD61 on January 25, 2012 at 11:18 PM
May I quote Thomas Jefferson? “The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
Sheerq on January 25, 2012 at 11:42 PM
Yar lets let the founders speak and let the RePubic Establishment types argue with them.
Another good one for those that think we should TOLERATE commie health care:
PS: Those people are dreadfully mistaken. They probably don’t understand HOW much so.
SilverDeth on January 26, 2012 at 12:12 AM
I want Newt to lead us into battle against Obummer.
I’m not changing my mind on this.
The Teaparty will have MORE influence with Newt as POTUS.
I believe Newt will screw us LESS than Romney will.
The Dems & RINOs really are one party rule. Scary.
Typicalwhitewoman on January 26, 2012 at 12:39 AM
For all of you Newt supporters, Ann Coulter is telling it like it really is concerning Gingrich vs Romney:
http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2012-01-25.html
The HOTAIR Newt band-wagoners should be paying better attention to the facts about these two men, rather than running on pure emotion and irrational hatred of Romney. Mitt Romney is our best hope right now to beat Obama and get the USA boat heading back in the right direction. We can either face this fact or plan on going down in flames in November. Regardless of what you think about Ann, her article is spot on. Newt is a gift from God for Obama and the Democrats. If we let him, Newt will single-highhandedly destroy any credibility that still exists in the conservative movement.
NuclearPhysicist on January 26, 2012 at 6:46 AM
Coulter is a flake. She calls Romney the most conservative candidate. Her idea of conservatism looks more like liberalism. I suppose it’s the pernicious influence neo-cons have had on so many of these conservatives. The fact is, Gingrich and Romney are terrible candidates, and will betray those that vote for them.
rickv404 on January 26, 2012 at 8:25 AM
This is exactly what has made Romney a non-starter for me and many others who actually listen to what people say.
Romney refused to throw Romneycare under the bus instead sticking to his it should be a state system with possible “grants” from the FED, in other words O care in 50 designs which will sell easier because each state currently has special restrictions laws for insurance (major reason why it cost so much currently).
Romney has also in the past stated that “you shouldn’t throw the baby out with the bath water” when talking about Ocare. That screams the ole repub standard of our socialism is better than there socialism.
C-Low on January 26, 2012 at 8:26 AM
Why can’t you throw the whole cloth out?
Of course you can, unless you don’t want to….which is really the underlying problem with Mitt.
SarahW on January 26, 2012 at 10:05 AM
And yay a federal VAT to pay for it. Sorry, NOt Romney gets my vote.
SarahW on January 26, 2012 at 10:06 AM
Oh shut up. Seriously, what direction do you think a Gun Grabbing, Liberal Judge Appointing, Global Warming Supporting, Big spending, Socialized Health Care Proponent like Mitt Freaking Romney TAKE the USA???????????!!!!
An express elevator to hell, that’s where – at a “slightly reduced speed” compared to King Barry Hussein.
SilverDeth on January 26, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Everyone who isn’t Romney and their supporters: Petunia.
totherightofthem on January 26, 2012 at 11:02 AM
But you’ve never called Ed out on all those lies until now… when you were shown to be wrong?
There is something wrong with that picture and it isn’t Ed.
RJL on January 26, 2012 at 3:21 PM
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