Gingrich: Romney lacks concern for the “humanity” of illegal immigrants

posted at 12:45 pm on January 25, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Today, at a GOP candidate forum hosted by the Spanish-language television network Univision, Newt Gingrich reiterated his plan to create a path to residency for illegal immigrants who have lived in the country for at least 20 years. He also criticized his competitor, Mitt Romney, who recently suggested illegal immigrants would self-deport for their own benefit. Gingrich painted the suggestion as absurd and claimed Romney lacks concern for the “humanity” of those who’ve lived in the United States. Washington Wire reports the money quote, which also cleverly links Romney to the out-of-touch Barack Obama:

“You have to live to in a world of Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Island accounts and automatic $20 million a year income for no work to have a fantasy this far from reality,” Mr. Gingrich said. “This is an Obama-level fantasy… He certainly shows no concern for the humanity of people who are already here.”

Oh, how the presidential race has changed in just a few short months! Remember when conservative pundits and the public skewered Rick Perry for his positions on immigration and, above all, for his remark that those who oppose in-state tuition for illegal immigrants are “heartless“?  Later, Newt Gingrich began to highlight the specifics of his plans to tackle the illegal immigration problem … and, lo and behold, the principles upon which those plans were based weren’t that different than the principles that had guided Rick Perry’s thinking.

In other words, when it comes to illegal immigration, Gingrich, like Perry, starts with respect for the personhood of immigrants, whether they entered the country legally or illegally, and seeks to implement policies that respect reality. In Perry, those positions were regarded as some kind of squishy conservative weakness. In Gingrich, they’re viewed as pragmatic and even palatable.

The question of what to do about the millions of immigrants who live in the country illegally is a thorny one. “Solutions” that absolutely respect the rule of law — like mass deportation — are impractical and largely unenforceable, while “solutions” that seek to integrate illegal immigrants into society for the mutual benefit of the immigrants and society inevitably weaken the rule of law one way or another. After all, every “solution” that accepts as a foundation that immigrants can enter the country illegally and remain here – regardless of whether they’re eventually allowed to become citizens — weakens the rule of law.

That’s why the candidates have understandably emphasized the need to secure the borders. That is unquestionably the first step to mitigate the problem of illegal immigration in the future. The process to immigrate here legally also desperately needs to be reformed.

Meantime, it’s interesting to observe the way the emphases of the candidates change according to their audiences. Gingrich definitely wants the vote of Miami’s large Cuban population, don’t you think?


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I wish people would stop saying things that make me want to like Romney.

Aronne on January 25, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Newt is going to find a way to set his own ass on fire yet.

novaculus on January 25, 2012 at 12:47 PM

What is this ‘humanity’ you speak of?

Romney is an alien – as in an extraterrestrial.

CorporatePiggy on January 25, 2012 at 12:48 PM

I agree.

Somehow the picture of 12 million illegals standing
in line to march back across the border does not hinge on any
reality.

Amjean on January 25, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Man Gingrich is still pissed at Romney. Anyway, he better knock off these type of attacks because his conservative base supporters will tire of this nonsense very quickly.

Conservative4Ever on January 25, 2012 at 12:49 PM

November 10, 2010

DanMan’s Manifesto on the illegal alien situation.

First a few basic knowns.
1. There are somewhere between 12 to 25 million illegal aliens living in this country. Something like 4% to 8.5% of the US population or so.
2. We have many incentives besides employment opportunities that lure illegal immigrants and extend our social safety net.
3. We are probably the only developed country in the world that rewards illegal aliens having babies within our borders by granting them some sort of status that eventually allows them to bring in their extended families for similar status.

Suppose we reform our approach to illegal immigration enforcement. Let’s set a date certain our new immigration laws are strictly enforced and that would include no allowance for providing a US birth certificate for any baby born to a non legal resident citizen. Not a green card holder’s baby, not a consulate member’s baby, not a sight seeing tourist’s baby, no interpretation at all. On that same date we cut off all social services to any non legal resident. If this seems draconian, just insert whatever tenets we place in our new immigration laws that we can consider “comprehensive”, but it must include enforcement. Of course this date certain will mean we have the ability to enforce our borders. If the borders cannot be certified to be sealed, permanently cut all of congress’ pay by 20% until it can be certified sealed. Cut an additional 10% per week until it is achieved. *UPDATE: The DC politicians have conceded the point regarding citizenship with their DREAM act legislation by attempting to give citizenship to anchor babies. They recognize they are not citizens and we need to gain control of the issue legislatively before the courts step in.*

Now we have a window of 24 years since we last granted amnesty that will have the birthdays of the millions of people who were born here to non legal residents and their relatives. Let’s assume they all want to become citizens and we give them a pathway. They will have to register by a certain date and provide key elements of identification that will be matched biometrically (it’s our country, they are not yet citizens, we get to make the rules).*UPDATE: Perhaps an identification card with GPS capabilities could be a viable option since it is already a requirement to carry ID and it would also allow us to track them.* After this date certain our data base potential should not be growing at all so that at least gives us some time to breathe. The data we collect will determine the potential status to start the process to citizenship. Criteria would include several categories and include command of the language, criminal record, record of paying taxes, record of using social services, etc. The information will be sorted to move those most assimilated towards the top and those that have shown to be a net loss lower in status. For those that have criminal records, evaluate them. Use of social services, evaluate them, allow them to pay our country back to improve the status. Basically allow for the sorting of the people that want to become to citizens and have shown the ability and willingness to improve themselves the opportunity to filter up and the least desirables to filter down with the chance to improve their condition.

All of these people will be in line BEHIND the people that are currently going through our legal process. None of them can achieve citizenship faster than a regular case emigrant that is in line on the date certain. That should not be that much of a hardship since they will basically be allowed to live their lives as they are except for the use of social services, which will not be available. That would also stop the political parties from reaching for/worried about a major imbalance of political power as we just saw in Nevada. It may take 10 years to get the mess sorted out but the beauty is the people that are waiting and working and improving their lives will have a vested interest in obeying the law to keep their status and they will know that they will not be kicked out if they do so. By the time they get citizenship they will be assimilated and have a stake in this country. They will have had time to see how our country works. For those that don’t want to make the sacrifice, ahem…go home.

I do not accept that an illegal alien that has gotten away with living here for a year is invested in our nation or state. I worked the entire time I was in college from delivering the Chronicle to working at UPS at night, waiting tables, working for the school, basically anything I could find. I paid full ride for my kids to attend A&M and UT with no assistance from anybody. It was hard and it did not allow my wife and I an opportunity to put aside anything for the years we paid that tuition.

DanMan on January 25, 2012 at 12:49 PM

I hope Newt is just pandering.

If Newt is serious, he just gave me one less reason to vote for him.

Newt: When you are talking your supporters into voting for Romney–stop talking.

HeatSeeker2011 on January 25, 2012 at 12:49 PM

NEWT! On immigration….STASTFU!
He’s trying to screw up his lead again!

KOOLAID2 on January 25, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Newt’s is a liberal in wolf’s clothing.

rubberneck on January 25, 2012 at 12:50 PM

I think its just the ghetto speaking spanish ones, no?

gatorboy on January 25, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Newt Gingrich: every day is a new story.

Self-deportation by enforcing employment rules works! Ask Alabama and the illegals who left the country during the recession.

Newt Gingrich was the one who killed E-Verify as a mandatory program and turned it into an impotent voluntary program in the 1990s.

haner on January 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM

like mass deportation — are impractical and largely unenforceable

Everyone always says this but we could give it a try you know. People say this as if well, if we cannot deport every last alien (terrestrial)then we shouldn’t even try.

CorporatePiggy on January 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM

I wonder if Newt is trying to drive conservatives to Romney or something. Perhaps that’s what his goal is, to compel conservatives to rally to Romney’s defense.

Romney’s fictional position on illegal immigration is pretty decent, IMO, (though subject to change unfortunately), while Newt’s is totally unacceptable to me. Newt is disqualified from my vote in innumerate ways, but so is Romney in innumerate other ways.

Romney and Newt are so unelectable that they have to pretend to be somebody else.

FloatingRock on January 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM

ugh, newt please…

GhoulAid on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

That’s why the candidates have understandably emphasized the need to secure the borders. That is unquestionably the first step to mitigate the problem of illegal immigration in the future. The process to immigrate here legally also desperately needs to be reformed.
Tina Korbe

Tina,

you’re heartless.

What’s wrong with a little sarcasm?

listens2glenn on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

In Perry, those positions were regarded as some kind of squishy conservative weakness. In Gingrich, they’re viewed as pragmatic and even palatable.

Another disturbing symptom of anti-Romney paranoia. I don’t know what the official medical term would be but in layman’s terms it’s known as hypocrisy.

cicerone on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Newt is going to find a way to set his own ass on fire yet.

And if he does, the heat generated would be enough to warm every household in Portland, Oregon for a year.

Emperor Norton on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Romney Advisor: No Obamacare Repeal

We’re not going to do repeal. You’re not going to repeal Obamacare… It’s not a total repeal… You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president… You can’t whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change what’s been done.

tetriskid on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Newt is just crushing my guy Romney today. Democrat attack after Democrat attack. He’s making good and sure neither of them will be electable after this. Second look at Paul? *gulp*

Roymunson on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

You have to live to in a world of Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Island accounts and automatic $20 million a year income for no work to have a fantasy this far from reality,” Mr. Gingrich said

.

Who can defend this? I can’t.

I get that the winner of FL will most likely be the nominee. I get that politics ain’t beanbag and all that. But is it too much to ask to have one damn candidate who understands Nietzsche’s admonition to those who go monster hunting?

A pox on ever house in the primary. ABO in the general.

Kataklysmic on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Pretty dumb, Newt.

Call in the language barrier or whatever you like, but Hispanic voters don’t change their minds according to immigration policy. George W ran this playbook and didn’t change a single mind. John Amnesty McCain? No dice.

Mitt Romney leads you in Florida by a significant margin among Hispanics. Nothing, but nothing, will change that. This is the folly of the pandering to amnesty – white voters outnumber Hispanic voters over 10 to 1. That means you need to swing more than 10% of the Hispanic vote for every 1% of whites you lose.

Oh, and black voters aren’t really thrilled about amnesty, either.

HitNRun on January 25, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Between the class warfare and pretending that anything short of amnesty for illegals is anti-immigrant, I’m wondering if Newt secretly wrote Obama’s SOTU address.

Hollowpoint on January 25, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Pelosi’s office says she has no new dirt on Newt Gingrich

tetriskid on January 25, 2012 at 12:47 PM

So…just the same old dirt, then? They’ll always have that couch. “Spit it out!” lol

cicerone on January 25, 2012 at 12:54 PM

Newt is pulling the ad already after being told it was not true by Rubio.

ConservativePartyNow on January 25, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Lacks humanity = Heartless

haner on January 25, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Would this be the same as “heartless”?

stenwin77 on January 25, 2012 at 12:55 PM

I wish people would stop saying things that make me want to like Romney.

Aronne on January 25, 2012 at 12:47 PM

Amen!

Considering where we are at now, I am pulling the lever for Santorum when the primary reaches Michigan. But if Gingrich keeps up his OWS tactics I might have to vote for Romney just to keep Gingrich out.

NotCoach on January 25, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Newt is pulling the ad already after being told it was not true by Rubio.

ConservativePartyNow on January 25, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Rubio: 1
Newt: 0

haner on January 25, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Meantime, it’s interesting to observe the way the emphases of the candidates change according to their audiences. Gingrich definitely wants the vote of Miami’s large Cuban population, don’t you think?

yep!and he is going to make it!

nathor on January 25, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Well, it’s Wednesday and Newt’s in Florida.

Murf76 on January 25, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Newt is the David Souter of presidential candidates. At least Romney will stand by what he says. The fools that believe Newt will fall in line are kidding themselves. The republican house will be fighting more against Newt (if elected…which I don’t think will happen anyway).

rubberneck on January 25, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I would stay home or vote 3rd party before I’d vote for Newt. The same is true of Romney. I might even vote for Obama to help save the party, they’re so bad, and I think a lot of people here will eventually come to the same conclusion long before November. I just hope they realize it right now, before it is too late.

FloatingRock on January 25, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I bet Social Security is an easier hurdle then immigration. I was really annoyed with Gov. Perry when he made his “heartless” remark, but I got over it. Generally I am against pandering to “sections” of the public, which is why I am against Sen. Rubio as V.P.. This is not high on my care list.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Today, at a GOP candidate forum hosted by the Spanish-language television network Univision, Newt Gingrich reiterated his plan to create a path to residency for illegal immigrants who have lived in the country for at least 20 years.

C’mon, Newt. I realize that it’s a Univision audience, but until now, you’d been saying 25 years.

I think Newt’s actually got a workable solution. The funny thing is that essentially relies on the concept Romney awkwardly trumpets–self-deportation.

Face it, fix the border by 1 Jan 2014. Move resources–even the DC bureaucracy–down to the border to accomplish it. Immediate deportation after serving sentences for criminals, and deportation within two weeks for those we stumble upon. Implement the worker visa program with the credit-card companies executing it to prevent fraud. Implement the e-verify system, and impose harsh penalties on businesses that violate it. Even for those with enough years to stay, they need a track record and a sponsoring family–they may even have to return to their country of origin and formally apply to return. And that only gets them permanent residence status. They aren’t citizens.

In contrast, Romney doesn’t seem to have thought this through and just seems to through red meat to GOP crowds because he thinks that’s what he’s supposed to say. In truth, I DON’T TRUST A WORD out of Romney’s mouth on immigration.

BuckeyeSam on January 25, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Romney Advisor: No Obamacare Repeal

tetriskid on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

That settles it- I’m definitely not voting for Norm Coleman in the primary.

Short of the GOP holding the House and a 60+ majority in the Senate, he’s probably right though- if a full repeal can’t make it past a filibuster, it won’t happen.

Hollowpoint on January 25, 2012 at 12:57 PM

I agree.

Somehow the picture of 12 million illegals standing
in line to march back across the border does not hinge on any
reality.

Amjean on January 25, 2012 at 12:48 PM

we have trains and buses!

nathor on January 25, 2012 at 12:57 PM

You BOTH suck on illegal immigration! Stop saying crap liberal things to pander to people BREAKING OUR LAWS ON A DAILY BASIS!!!

What is the matter with these two! I’m at the point of tossing them both overboard.

Darksean on January 25, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Newt’s heartless moment? ( or was that when he ditched his wives?)

galtani on January 25, 2012 at 12:57 PM

That’s why the candidates have understandably emphasized the need to secure the borders. That is unquestionably the first step to mitigate the problem of illegal immigration in the future. The process to immigrate here legally also desperately needs to be reformed.
Tina Korbe

We let in just over a million immigrants a year legally. With an unemployment rate over 8% how many is enough?

DFCtomm on January 25, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Romney Advisor: No Obamacare Repeal

We’re not going to do repeal. You’re not going to repeal Obamacare… It’s not a total repeal… You will not repeal the act in its entirety, but you will see major changes, particularly if there is a Republican president… You can’t whole-cloth throw it out. But you can substantially change what’s been done.

tetriskid on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Advisor said it so it must be Romney position….oh wait, wernt we just talking about how “Occupy” Gingrich is flushing free market values down the toilet again….

Zybalto on January 25, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Rubio hit Gingrich on this rightfully so. The guy will use tactics from any playbook – making fun of wealth, pandering to illegals, name it.

Newt Gingrich is a fat blowhard with no morals.

The guy needs to be defeated before he takes the whole party down with him.

Think about it guys, we lose the moral high ground forever to the dems if we nominate that guy after what we did to clinton.

Swerve22 on January 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Did Newt talk up his “community boards” today? You know those boards who will pick and choose who stays and who has to leave? Those “community boards” which is an open invitation to corruption?

JPeterman on January 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Another thing to add to the con column on Newt. None of our choices are anywhere near conservative enough fir me. I dont think a savior is going to swoop in and save the Gop either. I felt fairly confident Obama would not win reelection but the more repubs talk the less confident I feel.

ldbgcoleman on January 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

Newt’s heartless moment? ( or was that when he ditched his wives?)

galtani on January 25, 2012 at 12:57 PM

Not much concern for humanity when you dump two wives after they get a devastating medical diagnosis.

haner on January 25, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Isn’t the humane thing making it so that those hiding in this nation can live legally and in full participation of society– in whatever country they came from?

I’m sorry but no politician is going to convince me that amnesty for illegals makes sense. It was an ultimate failure when Reagan did it and I can’t believe that any politician is considering it now (though it is called path to citizenship since amnesty is a bad word). For me, this gives Romney a point on the scorecard.

BTW, if Newt was pandering to the Cuban population, pushing Amnesty does not particularly make sense. There are no illegal Cubans running around because of the dry foot rule.

Happy Nomad on January 25, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Even Rubio has had to take sides against Newt on this one.

Tater Salad on January 25, 2012 at 12:59 PM

tetriskid on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Coleman was not speaking on Romney’s behalf. As I said in another thread, Romney has pledged to issue waivers to the states on day one. Beyond that he cannot repeal ObamaCare all by himself. Neither can Newty or anybody else. Coleman was referring to the process, not what Romney intends to do. President Romney will sign whatever repeal legislation a GOP-controlled Congress sends his way.

cicerone on January 25, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Unprincipled, vindictive little man, typical fat bully; Gingrich!

dmann on January 25, 2012 at 1:00 PM

You have to live to in a world of Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Island accounts and automatic $20 million a year income for no work to have a fantasy this far from reality,” Mr. Gingrich said.

Who can defend this? I can’t.
Kataklysmic on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

I can. I said this yesterday:

So now we know. Willard, Lord Romney made over $20 million each of the last two years, just for sitting on his butt. . .
Emperor Norton on January 24, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Emperor Norton on January 25, 2012 at 1:00 PM

GET THE MEDIA THEY’RE AFTER COMRADE NEWT AGAIN!!!!1

Q

Swerve22 on January 25, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Newt Gingrich was the one who killed E-Verify as a mandatory program and turned it into an impotent voluntary program in the 1990s.

haner on January 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Is that true?

BuckeyeSam on January 25, 2012 at 1:00 PM

SMART FOR FLORIDA

pamplonajack on January 25, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Not much concern for humanity when you dump two wives after they get a devastating medical diagnosis.

haner on January 25, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Relax, it’s just Newt pandering to the values voters.

Swerve22 on January 25, 2012 at 1:01 PM

He’ll lose his lead again, then he’ll yell at a debate moderator and all of the inbreds will flock back to him.

Mark1971 on January 25, 2012 at 1:02 PM

So now we know. Willard, Lord Romney made over $20 million each of the last two years, just for sitting on his butt. . .

Emperor Norton on January 24, 2012 at 9:34 AM

So am I to take it that if you won the lottery, you would insist on continuing some sort of day job as opposed to living off the interest?

Kataklysmic on January 25, 2012 at 1:02 PM

Let’s get real about our illegal immigration problem. 20 million illegal immigrants are not going to be deported. Obama and the dems. don’t even want to deport a illegal immigrant criminal who commits murder. So, rounding up 20 million illegals and deporting them is never going to happen. They are also not going to self deport. Those who have been here illegally for years and have families will NEVER be deported because a majority of Americans would not support it.

Secure the borders, and stop illegal immigration which we have not wanted to do. Pubs. didn’t want to do it under Bush and dems. don’t want to do it.

Once borders are secured and those then caught illegally entereing country should be immediately deported. Caught a second time, imprison them. Provide a path to citizenship for those illegals who are here. That’s the only solution that is realistic and workable. Anything else the pols. say is just lies and pandering.

they lie on January 25, 2012 at 1:02 PM

They should be humanely transported back to Mexico after being advised to fix their home country.

viking01 on January 25, 2012 at 1:02 PM

I am so close to going to Santorum when I go to the Colorado caucus on Feb 7.

KBird on January 25, 2012 at 1:02 PM

tetriskid on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

If Obamacare isn’t repealed then economically it’s over for the U.S., since that’s going to be the giant straw that broke the camel’s back. Well, on the bright side that’s one sure fire way to turn off that jobs magnet.

DFCtomm on January 25, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Rubio: 1
Newt: 0

haner on January 25, 2012 at 12:55 PM

Yup. It’s time for Newty to go to Plan B. Say, who’s the moderator for tomorrow night’s CNN debate? John King again? lol Forget Lincoln-Douglas…Newty will be going for the Hamilton-Burr scenario!

cicerone on January 25, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Coleman was not speaking on Romney’s behalf. As I said in another thread, Romney has pledged to issue waivers to the states on day one. Beyond that he cannot repeal ObamaCare all by himself. Neither can Newty or anybody else. Coleman was referring to the process, not what Romney intends to do. President Romney will sign whatever repeal legislation a GOP-controlled Congress sends his way.

cicerone on January 25, 2012 at 12:59 PM

Paid Oromney shill following script?

they lie on January 25, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Newt is going to find a way to set his own ass on fire yet.

And if he does, the heat generated would be enough to warm every household in Portland, Oregon for a year.

Emperor Norton on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

If the swamp gas ignites he’ll take off like a rocket. But Callista will be standing by with a fire extinguisher.

novaculus on January 25, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Emperor Norton on January 25, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Are you jealous? Do you demand some of his wealth be given to you just for sitting on your butt?

Why exactly is this a concern for you or anyone else? Besides that, would you rather he kept his money under a mattress instead of investing it where his dollars are put to work? Where they create jobs and generate capital? Are so called conservatives really going to get onboard the OWS express just because Gingrich has?

NotCoach on January 25, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Think about it guys, we lose the moral high ground forever to the dems if we nominate that guy after what we did to clinton.

Swerve22 on January 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

When did liberals or independents worry about moral high ground or consistentancy. Never.

WisRich on January 25, 2012 at 1:05 PM

FU Newt…illegal is illegal. What about the humanity of their victims? I don’t mean just those who commit crimes, we have a huge unemployment problems and every citizen who can’t find a job is victimized by illegals who inflate the workforce at the very time we can afford it the least.

Bottom line…Gingrich lacks compassion for struggling citizens who are way above the importance of illegals. It’s really easy to talk about humanity when you’re never the one who’s unemployed.

James on January 25, 2012 at 1:06 PM

Even Rubio has had to take sides against Newt on this one.

Tater Salad on January 25, 2012 at 12:59 PM

“The truth is that neither of these two men is anti-immigrant,” Rubio said. “Both are pro-legal immigration and both have positive messages that play well in the Hispanic community.”

Yeah. Sounds like Rubio is siding with both.

portlandon on January 25, 2012 at 1:06 PM

You have to live to in a world of Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Island accounts and automatic $20 million a year income for no work to have a fantasy this far from reality,” Mr. Gingrich said

Who can defend this? I can’t.

I get that the winner of FL will most likely be the nominee. I get that politics ain’t beanbag and all that. But is it too much to ask to have one damn candidate who understands Nietzsche’s admonition to those who go monster hunting?

A pox on ever house in the primary. ABO in the general.

Kataklysmic on January 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM

newt is going populist, and it will work.
rich people are not popular, especially in a recession.

nathor on January 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM

How long until Newt appears with a few illegal immigrants and weeps gently while telling their sad tale?

JosephP on January 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Well, I’m really disappointed in this. I would like to hear more of this speech by Gingrich to get the context. I don’t agree with pandering to illegals.

Hmmmm, I wonder . . . if Romney is so strict on illegal immigration, why does HotAir have polls where he is way ahead of Gringrich with Hispanics? Did Romney give a speech with Univision recently? I’d like to know what he said. Did he tell them that they have to go back to their home country and get in line? I can’t imagine that he would be leading in the polls with Hispanics with that stance.

Something is fishy here.

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Let’s get real about our illegal immigration problem. 20 million illegal immigrants are not going to be deported………….Provide a path to citizenship for those illegals who are here. That’s the only solution that is realistic and workable. Anything else the pols. say is just lies and pandering.

they lie on January 25, 2012 at 1:02 PM

No that’s not the only solution. Secure the border and turn off the incentives, jobs and benefits, and then wait. Do nothing, don’t spend a dime. See how many self deport, and once the self deportation dies down we’ll discuss how to deal with those that are left.

DFCtomm on January 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM

ah, the ‘humanity’ self-rigtheousness of Gingrich (barf)… his attacks have reached a new low even for the scoundrel that he is, Romney said clearly that he is not for deportation, it’s the fanatics and the extremists (most of them commenting on HA) who advocate mass deportation…so, whoever Gingrich was after or chasing in(with) that ad was more like a projection of his vile, subconscious self, I think…one thing is clear, Romney NEVER advocated deportation…’rule of law’ and e-verify’ are a few things that eh mentioned, but they are meant to discourage people to to come here illegally and the ones who are in the country, to self-deport…but that is lost on the great historian evah (noot), or actually it isn’t, but is good material for demagoguing, that’s what he does best…

jimver on January 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM

newt is going populist, and it will work.
rich people are not popular, especially in a recession.

nathor on January 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Be that as it may, I’m not signing on for it.

When I said I’d literally vote for Satan over Obama, I didn’t realize my bluff was going to be called. Oh well, ABO 2012.

Kataklysmic on January 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM

“You have to live to in a world of Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Island accounts and automatic $20 million a year income for no work to have a fantasy this far from reality,” Mr. Gingrich said.

Really?

We already have a president that expresses disdain for the successful businessman. Do we really need to nominate a Republican presidential candidate who does the same?

And let me get this straight. Romney works his tail off making Bain Capital what it is and is now reaping the benefits. And that’s a problem exactly how? What about retirees who have saved up enough over their life so they no longer have to work? Is it Newt’s contention that people should work ’til they die?

People throw the “will say anything to get elected” charge at Romney all the time. Have you taken a good look at Newt?

bigdubs on January 25, 2012 at 1:09 PM

This is the Newt that voluntarily shoots himself in the foot. Illegal means criminal and law breaking. Where is the humanity in giving illegal aliens (law-breakers) a pass while spitting in the face of those who have gained citizenship legally?

Slainte on January 25, 2012 at 1:10 PM

First it was any illegal who had been here for 25 years. Now it’s 20 years.
By the time the convention rolls around, it will be anyone who’s clothes have dried after swimming the Rio Grand.

Alferd Packer on January 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM

So am I to take it that if you won the lottery, you would insist on continuing some sort of day job as opposed to living off the interest?

Interest is taxed as ordinary income, at up to 39.6%. In California, where I am, you add another 10.8%, maximum. Added together, that’s a total tax rate of 50.4%.

Romney was taxed at the capital gains/dividend rate, of only 15%.

Emperor Norton on January 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM

BuckeyeSam on January 25, 2012 at 1:00 PM

From what I can see E-Verify was a pilot program started in 1997, two years before Gingrich left Congress. In 2007 even the federal government wasn’t using it. Now that might be Newt’s fault but I don’t see it.

Cindy Munford on January 25, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Hmmmm, I wonder . . . if Romney is so strict on illegal immigration, why does HotAir have polls where he is way ahead of Gringrich with Hispanics?

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Because Hispandering doesn’t work for Republicans. Romney did better than Perry among Hispanics too.

Jon0815 on January 25, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Did Newt talk up his “community boards” today? You know those boards who will pick and choose who stays and who has to leave? Those “community boards” which is an open invitation to corruption?JPeterman on January 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM

You got that right. What a profitable position to hold in the community!:) Hell, members of those community boards would soon probably have investment accounts in the Caymans.(just like you know who.)

a capella on January 25, 2012 at 1:13 PM

The more ridiculous attacks Gingrich and Romney engage in, the better Santorum looks. Why, oh why, do we only these clowns to choose from?

JannyMae on January 25, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Did Romney give a speech with Univision recently? I’d like to know what he said. Did he tell them that they have to go back to their home country and get in line? I can’t imagine that he would be leading in the polls with Hispanics with that stance.

Something is fishy here.

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM

why is he leading in the polls with Hispanics? maybe because they see through Newt’s colossal demagoguery and hypocrisy….

jimver on January 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM

We’ll make a Conservative out of Romney yet, and Newt is showing his true Progressive colors. I’m tired of the class warfare coming constantly from Obama. I don’t need to hear it from Newt too. Time to start lining up behind one candidate, Romney, and building a case to unseat the dangerous One who currently holds the Presidency.

HoosierStateofMind on January 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM

GOP Thunderdome: four men enter, no men leave.

Please, oh please…

Bruno Strozek on January 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Emperor Norton on January 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM

Are you advocating that capital gain rates be the same as income tax rates?

NotCoach on January 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Every time I start to reluctantly consider getting behind this guy he pulls something like this.

updog on January 25, 2012 at 1:14 PM

Romney was taxed at the capital gains/dividend rate, of only 15%.

And under Newt’s tax plan, Romney would be taxed at 0%, because Newt fantasizing about eliminating the capital gains tax entirely.

Again: what is the defensible argument here? That people shouldn’t be allowed to profit from investments? It surely can’t be that “Mitt doesn’t pay enough in taxes” given that in Newt’s perfect world he would pay NOTHING.

And I don’t think you’re going to be able to sell people on the idea that Romney hasn’t ‘earned’ his money or his success, either. Given how insanely hard he’s worked his entire life, that’s just about the most preposterous argument on the planet.

Esoteric on January 25, 2012 at 1:15 PM

Interest is taxed as ordinary income, at up to 39.6%. In California, where I am, you add another 10.8%, maximum. Added together, that’s a total tax rate of 50.4%.

Romney was taxed at the capital gains/dividend rate, of only 15%.

Emperor Norton on January 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM

And the money he placed for investment to earn that 15%–did it materialize out of thin air or did he earn it first at which time he would have paid taxes on it under the top rate?

Kataklysmic on January 25, 2012 at 1:15 PM

I love how illegals humanely break our laws.

SouthernGent on January 25, 2012 at 1:15 PM

newt is going populist, and it will work.
rich people are not popular, especially in a recession.

nathor on January 25, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Newt isn’t exactly a pauper. What makes you think the Hispanic or any other segment of our society won’t see Newt as disingenuous and hypocritical in his attacks against “rich people.”

Slainte on January 25, 2012 at 1:15 PM

So the guy who help to bring you amnesty 1 (which failed to stop illegal immigration) wants to bring you amnesty 2.

Those illegal grandfathers and grandmothers will cost 500k each in medicare and social security.

The GOP electorate is strongly anti amnesty as Perry can attest. Just how smart can Newt be?

aniptofar on January 25, 2012 at 1:15 PM

So now we know. Willard, Lord Romney made over $20 million each of the last two years, just for sitting on his butt. . .

Emperor Norton on January 24, 2012 at 9:34 AM

Keeping warm in your Zucotti Park tent?

JPeterman on January 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Romney was taxed at the capital gains/dividend rate, of only 15%.

Emperor Norton on January 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM

It’s Romney’s money meaning it’s already been taxed when he got it – likely around 30 percent.

So add that and we’re looking at a total of a 45% tax rate.

Romney also donated 15% of his income to Charity, opposed to Obama’s 1% – speaking of the party that cares. Obama cares as long as it’s somebody else’s money he’s spending, not his own.

Swerve22 on January 25, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Interest is taxed as ordinary income, at up to 39.6%. In California, where I am, you add another 10.8%, maximum. Added together, that’s a total tax rate of 50.4%.

Romney was taxed at the capital gains/dividend rate, of only 15%.

Emperor Norton on January 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM

And?

Isn’t the conservative argument that government should take less and let the people decide how to spend their money?

Haven’t we said all along that charities would benefit if people kept more of what they earned?

Isn’t Romney’s charitable giving a prime example of that princple in action?

bigdubs on January 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Newt Gingrich was the one who killed E-Verify as a mandatory program and turned it into an impotent voluntary program in the 1990s.

haner on January 25, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Is that true?

BuckeyeSam on January 25, 2012 at 1:00 PM

As Speaker of the House, Gingrich was in the pivotal position to help Immigration Subcommittee Chairman Lamar Smith push through the 1996 comprehensive bill that set up the verification program that eventually was named “E-Verify.”

The Commission had found that illegal immigration was booming in the 10 years since the 1986 blanket amnesty because illegal aliens had found it was still easy to obtain and keep U.S. jobs.

What did Speaker Gingrich do? Gingrich tried to kill the new job verification system entirely. Fortunately, the killer amendment he supported failed. No thanks to Gingrich, we have an E-Verify system today. But the E-Verify system is entirely VOLUNTARY today because of another House vote which Gingrich won. That vote was to make sure that the verification system would NOT be MANDATORY for employers.

http://www.numbersusa.com/content/nusablog/beckr/november-23-2011/gingrich-shows-compassion-illegal-aliens-he-helped-stay-rooted-us.ht

haner on January 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Did Romney give a speech with Univision recently? I’d like to know what he said. Did he tell them that they have to go back to their home country and get in line? I can’t imagine that he would be leading in the polls with Hispanics with that stance.

Something is fishy here.

Maybe conservative Cuban Republicans aren’t the shameless illegal-immigration pimps you pathetically expect them to be.

Huh, maybe it’s possible that Hispanics aren’t all the same! That, like…there’s a DIFFERENCE between the politics of the Cuban community and that of the Mexican or Puerto Rican community!

Nah. All them Latinos are the same.

Esoteric on January 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM

This is the Newt that voluntarily shoots himself in the foot. Illegal means criminal and law breaking. Where is the humanity in giving illegal aliens (law-breakers) a pass while spitting in the face of those who have gained citizenship legally?

Slainte on January 25, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Yeah, he just can’t help himself. The foot he didn’t shoot is inserted in his mouth.

a capella on January 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM

I thought questioning the humanity of others was a tactic reserved only for liberals, while conservatives talked on the level of policy differences, and what is good for the country. Don’t be wading into race-baiting territory, Newt. The base won’t like that.

Paul-Cincy on January 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM

like mass deportation — are impractical and largely unenforceable

We sure have no problem with mass importation

our commie state department works hard at bringing in future dependents who will glady vote for more while not having the faintest clue as to why this country is great

eff illegals and those that are generous with others money

Sonosam on January 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Okay. Well according to the article:

Mr. Gingrich is suggesting a path to residency, not citizenship, for illegal immigrants who have been in the country for at least 20 years. Pressed by moderator Jorge Ramos about what he would do with the millions of others in the country illegally, Mr. Gingrich suggested work permits, but it was unclear who would receive them.

Mr. Romney will speak at the forum this afternoon.

Lets hear what Romney says this afternoon. I’m withholding fire until I get all the information.

KickandSwimMom on January 25, 2012 at 1:17 PM

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