Third look at… Jeb Bush?

posted at 12:45 pm on January 24, 2012 by Jazz Shaw

The discontent over the current GOP field of presidential contenders still shows no signs of abating, and though the filing deadlines for too many states have come and gone, that won’t stop some from hankering for what might have been. Another example comes to us today from Artur Davis at National Review. In it, he lays out a scenario which he describes as not at all implausible, wherein the GOP could still stop the train from plunging off the remains of the railroad trestle and sneak Jeb Bush in the back door.

To be sure, the Jeb scenario will need more instability in order to flourish. The likeliest path involves Gingrich’s momentum carrying him through Florida; the February races in Arizona and Michigan dividing between Romney and Gingrich; Romney rebounding in March in moderate-leaning midwestern states such as Illinois and Wisconsin; Gingrich winning easily in the Deep South on Super Tuesday and Texas in early April, with Romney proving equally strong in New York and the rest of the Atlantic coastline, while states like Ohio and Indiana fail to resolve the split.

Imagine that California’s ultimate showdown leaves Gingrich with the slightest of edges, but with Romney remaining viable and in possession of a broader geographic base, far more internal support from GOP leadership, and a substantial chunk of delegates. To stop Gingrich, Romney might have no practical choice but to offer to throw his support to Bush, whose popularity would also implode Gingrich’s slim plurality.

Well, I suppose anything is possible in theory. People have been positing pretty much the same scenario for Sarah Palin, Chris Christie and Paul Ryan since well before Christmas. But even though Jeb remains a highly popular figure with a big following both in the Sunshine State and in conservative enclaves across the country, I’m not sure how profitable the idea is.

First of all, it would require the younger Bush brother to actually agree to the plan. But he’s been making it clear since very early last year that he’s not interested, at least not right now. (Bush will be 63 years old in 2016, in the event Obama wins a second term, and even at 67 he wouldn’t be out of the question in 2020.) He seems more focused on private sector work at the moment, as well as working on education reform.

Also, it may still be too soon. While conditions have definitely been changing, there is still a bit of a hangover in some quarters regarding his last name. It’s worth remembering that Barack Obama actually ran against George W. Bush in 2008 far more so than John McCain, and it turned out to be a winning formula. (For that matter, Obama is still running against Bush today… a stunning plan considering their policies on a number of issues are virtually identical.) Others have continued to express some hesitation over the idea of legacy dynasties, with a series of Bush and Clinton surnames filling up the roster for decades on end.

And finally, while it’s not outside the realm of possibility, an open convention is still not all that likely, no matter how optimistic Davis is being. The primary waters are certainly very muddy at the moment, but we’re only three states and a handful of delegates into the process. Things really should begin to congeal by some time in February as money begins to run dry and the field narrows further. For now, we should file this one under the wishful thinking category.


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Is Megan McCain 35 yet? She makes as much sense as Jeb Bush.

Or why not got full blown RINO

McCain/Bush or Bush/McCain.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 1:17 PM

Bush dynasty? Who says the Bush family is tone deaf/LOL!

Dr Evil on January 24, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Paul Ryan. Please.

HeatSeeker2011 on January 24, 2012 at 1:18 PM

No more freakin bushie’s. That family has done enough damage to the country and conservative movement. Gov. Palin is the ONLY acceptable option.

God, 300 million people in the country and the establishment hacks in the beltway can only come up w/bushie’s. Incredible!

Danielvito on January 24, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Rick Perry: Pie in the sky entrenched large population-state governor pleaded to enter the race to fill a nieche audience who felt they didn’t have any other candidate to turn to at the moment and thought he would just sweep to victory.

Jeb Bush: Pie in the sky entrenched large population-state governor pleaded to enter the race to fill a nieche audience who felt they didn’t have any other candidate to turn to at the moment and thought he would just sweep to victory.

The Nerve on January 24, 2012 at 1:19 PM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

unless you want O to win all 57 states, then it’s a killer idea

kunegetikos on January 24, 2012 at 1:08 PM

A little clarity to your comment, I wasn’t quite sure what you really meant. Just a small tweek.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Bmore on January 24, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Just remember these are the supposed “smart” people that we’re all supposed to listen to when they tell us who is and isn’t electable.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 1:20 PM

Stay out of the Bushes!

ConservativePartyNow on January 24, 2012 at 12:56 PM

Stay out da Bushes!

Stay out da Bushes!

Stay out da Bushes!

Fallon on January 24, 2012 at 1:20 PM

HotAir headline: Andrea Mitchell: Romney advisor told me elites will dump him if he loses Florida

Mittens is on extremely thin ice. It seems Jeb refraining from endorsing in Florida might have been for this very reason.

Wow. If Mittens is denied his Ms GOP crown, he’s going to blow a cork.

portlandon on January 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM

The Bush name is trashed for at least another generation thanks to repugnicans taking the easy path of joining in on the carping at W as the cause of the economic meltdown, and their unwillingness to share the blame for any mistakes made in the war on terror. They refused to acknowledge the Iraq invasion was partially for the purpose of changing the entire dynamic in the middle east. No Iraqi freedom, = no Libyan freedon, no freedom in Egypt, Syria none. had B.Hussei’s rats and the repugnicans supported the Iranian freedom movement, we might noy be hearing nuclear war talk now.
No Blame Bush, he’s gone what does the truth or the interests of the country matter when the repugnicans have an elction to win.

borntoraisehogs on January 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM

If Newt wins Florida they’ll be publishing articles asking whether allowing the public to vote is a good idea.

Dack Thrombosis on January 24, 2012 at 1:22 PM

I live in Texas…I like GHWB and GWB, but PLEASE…the absolute fastest possibly way to put Barry back in the Oval Office would be to make Jeb Bush the nominee. Please DUMP that idea…

Ltlgeneral64 on January 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Sure why not, since it really doesn’t matter. Maybe the collapse that the next president is going to oversee will be great enough to destroy the Bush name once and for all, and we’ll never have to worry about another Bush.

DFCtomm on January 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Jeb 2012!
(‘Cause his Mama said so!)///

kingsjester on January 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM

No.

catmman on January 24, 2012 at 1:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TNVB3SgyX8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtNabdDx_mU

http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/12/22/george-h-w-bush-supports-romney/

You want to know how the Bush gals feel about a few things?

…..and we want more of this family in the party leadership why?

PappyD61 on January 24, 2012 at 1:24 PM

I rather we rally around Santourum, warts and all, if we don’t want Mitt or Newt.

As really effective as your “we” group of talibangelicals, pro life snipers,and anti-birth control statists may be, Frothy Mixture could not carry a single state , not even Utah.

borntoraisehogs on January 24, 2012 at 1:27 PM

When is this site going to start pushing Meghan McCain?

Czar of Defenestration on January 24, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Not enough strong backs on the planet to push her.

Wait, you mean for president?

VibrioCocci on January 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM

I don’t like the idea of any ‘dynasty’ in the United States. Further, there were massive mistakes made by both George H.W. and George W. and I’m not looking to see more of the same.

However, my foremost objection is that neither he, nor Christie, Daniels, Ryan, Rubio, Palin, or Jindal, et al, have been in the primary alongside the real candidates during this entire primary season. These people all opted NOT TO RUN. They each had their reasons and those are good enough to prevent my supporting any of them.

I don’t want to see a brokered convention, either. All that a brokered convention at this point would prove is that the GOP electorate has been bypassed by the GOP elite and establishment in order to put in the candidate of THEIR choosing.

I don’t begrudge anyone their lawful vote. I just don’t view it as anymore important or right that any other legal voters vote. That includes any GOP elitists who want to gather in a ‘figurative’ backroom somewhere and decide who THEY think should be the nominee, without regard to the process or the will of the GOP electorate.

thatsafactjack on January 24, 2012 at 1:29 PM

Bushie’s equal a family living off the public troth for over seventy years;

Prescott bush senator ct, started the bushie’s public breast feeding
George H W Bush appointed official, appointed VP, Pres one term gave us Clinton
George W bush, daddy heir, gov texas, pres gave us obamasatan & bailouts
Jeb bush, daddys other pol, gov of Fl, now out of work looking to be president

Have the bushies ever had a job that wasn’t related to government or thru their pals who donated or made them NO!

NO MORE FREAKIN BUSHIE’S AND THEIR CANCEROUS FAMILY TO CONSERVATIVES!

Danielvito on January 24, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Don’t any of the HA bloggers tire of the “Second look at…” stories. I don’t even read them anymore. (That doesn’t stop me from commenting, though.

rogaineguy on January 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM

LOL….you neocon faux conservatives are hilarious. It appears that you are more concerned about electing someone with an (R) next their name.

Your big government policies, like the big government policies of the liberals have wrecked this nation.

Your insistence that we must continuously guard the borders of other nations, participate in endless nation building projects, spend tax dollars of the middle class on foreign dictators and despots is clearly disgusting.

This vicious cycle must end. The USA can’t be the policeman of the world. It’s not that I’m anti-war. After 10 years in the Marine Corps, with three tours in the Iraq, I object to endless wars because young marines and soldiers shouldn’t be dying to build democracies for people that hate us.

MoreLiberty on January 24, 2012 at 1:35 PM

The arrogance and out of touchness of the people proposing these things is just stunning. No, the base is not going to all of a sudden swoon over Jeb and solve the GOP’s problems. They act like the base is a bunch of cattle that just don’t like the feed they’ve been given this morning. All we have to do is give them their old feed and they’ll be happy then, right? Sheesh. They really are going to destroy the Republican party with their own stupidity.

And the horror they feel at Newt is laughable. As if Newt were some kind of Godzilla monster.

I’m as terrified of Romney’s issues and electability as they are of Newt’s, but I can be mature and accept Romney if I have to. But since they’re the elites I guess they’ve never had to accept an outcome they don’t like, this must be a new and strange experience. I almost feel sorry for them.

Galadriel on January 24, 2012 at 1:36 PM

Bushie’s equal a family living off the public troth for over seventy years;

Prescott bush senator ct, started the bushie’s public breast feeding
George H W Bush appointed official, appointed VP, Pres one term gave us Clinton
George W bush, daddy heir, gov texas, pres gave us obamasatan & bailouts
Jeb bush, daddys other pol, gov of Fl, now out of work looking to be president

Have the bushies ever had a job that wasn’t related to government or thru their pals who donated or made them NO!

NO MORE FREAKIN BUSHIE’S AND THEIR CANCEROUS FAMILY TO CONSERVATIVES!

Danielvito on January 24, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Ruling Class Teaters call this “a proud record of PUBLIC SERVICE”.

PappyD61 on January 24, 2012 at 1:36 PM

No.

Mutnodjmet on January 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM

No.

Mutnodjmet on January 24, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Seconded.

rollthedice on January 24, 2012 at 1:40 PM

Get over yourselves. If Newt wins the required number of delegates for the nomination then you congratulate him, shut your yapper, and forget about such nonsense as a brokered convention.

Reggie1971 on January 24, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Nah. If Newt wins the nomination, Karl Rove goes on TV and tells Republicans to vote Obama.

Assuming the elites don’t just steal the election from Gingrich outright using a “brokered convention.”

Doomberg on January 24, 2012 at 1:40 PM

We need to put a stop to all this talk about a brokered convention or we’ll end up with a nominee nobody voted for in the primaries like a Jeb! or Mitch or whoever else the elites come up with. Since the elites have such a wonderful track record, see McLame, or Dole. could they just please leave it up to the voters and the process this time.

Kissmygrits on January 24, 2012 at 1:42 PM

Good grief. Are “the elites” (well, *that’s* an oxymoron) just determined to lose this election?
That the RNC would deny people their choice- their vote, would be just about as bad as 0 suspending the election.

NO Romney. NO Santorum. NO Mitch Daniels. NOOOO more Bushes. (Do I even need to say NO Paul?)
Newt Gingrich. Period.

sandollar_sa on January 24, 2012 at 1:44 PM

(For that matter, Obama is still running against Bush today… a stunning plan considering their policies on a number of issues are virtually identical.)

Not according to the lsm, whose take on the subject determines what their viewers think!

Mr. Prodigy on January 24, 2012 at 1:45 PM

And the horror they feel at Newt is laughable. As if Newt were some kind of Godzilla monster.

I’m as terrified of Romney’s issues and electability as they are of Newt’s, but I can be mature and accept Romney if I have to. But since they’re the elites I guess they’ve never had to accept an outcome they don’t like, this must be a new and strange experience. I almost feel sorry for them.

Galadriel on January 24, 2012 at 1:36 PM

If Newt gets elected, a lot of people who thought they were going to get jobs in the Romney administration are going to be out of luck. Newt also will not treat them favorably while in office. They may also lose control of key party power structures as Newt uses the powers of the presidency to strong-arm his supporters into these positions.

With the exception of the guys bankrolling his PAC, he won’t owe anyone anything. That means he might actually cut spending.

They have very good reasons to be worried about a Gingrich presidency. With Obama, they’re only out of power until the next cycle. Gingrich, if he reshapes the party, could put them out of power and jobs forever.

The Dem establishment is much smarter than ours. When they saw Obama surging, they knew to get on board. Our party elite, on the other hand, are stamping their feet and screaming. We really are the Stupid Party.

Doomberg on January 24, 2012 at 1:48 PM

Just the name ‘Bush’ on a ballot is still utterly toxic.

Nice trial balloon though!

CorporatePiggy on January 24, 2012 at 1:51 PM

The GOP establishment is a lot more concerned about retaining/gaining seats in the Senate and House than in whether Obama or a Republican occupies the WH. They think Newt will drag down the ticket due to unfavorability ratings and losing majorities with Newt as president would be more harmful than majorities in both houses and a neutered Obama in the WH. The fallacy there is that Obama is now governing by fiat and ignoring Congress altogether.

a capella on January 24, 2012 at 1:52 PM

NO NO NO
Jeb in 2012 Then we can elect Hillary, Then we can elect Jeb’s son, Then we can elect Chelsea Clinton.

I will be the first to admit my generation has given us Crap for Presidents but you can’t tell me there aren’t competent people out there who are not members of these 2 families

400lb Gorilla on January 24, 2012 at 12:54 PM

You know how bad it is…when you scare a 400lb Gorilla into action!

KOOLAID2 on January 24, 2012 at 1:53 PM

Geez, I hope not.

daddysgirl on January 24, 2012 at 1:54 PM

Two in a lifetime are plenty.
I’m already Bushed.
Thanks anyway.

countrybumpkin on January 24, 2012 at 1:55 PM

When is this site going to start pushing Meghan McCain?

Czar of Defenestration on January 24, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Doesn’t Allahpundit have a thing for Meghan?

My dream lady for POTUS is Sarah Palin.

Gladtobehere on January 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM

Jeb could be the next Ronald Reagan, but his last name is just too toxic and the public would never go for it.

Brad on January 24, 2012 at 1:56 PM

I just had a strange thought that Mitt may actually be the best thing to happen for the Tea Party movement.

The Elites pushing Mitt have exposed themselves to us for what they really are- unconcerned about principles, unconcerned about conservatism, simply going for their own bottom line and cowardly hand-wringing.

Most of the time the elites are smart enough to get behind someone (like GWB) that is at least palatable to the base. This time they went too far, and it’s possibly paving the way for a firecracker like Newt that would never have a chance otherwise.

Interesting times.

Galadriel on January 24, 2012 at 1:59 PM

All the RINO’s must have their a@@ ‘oles puckered, to even think of the ‘House of Bush’ to enter the pack.
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For Charlie Crist to be involved with Romney’s campaign, really shows how dirty Romney will play the game.
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Can we say “Arlen Specter” is appearing before us.

Typicalwhitewoman on January 24, 2012 at 1:59 PM

Have we heard from Marco Rubio?
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Even Rubio has disappointed. eh

Typicalwhitewoman on January 24, 2012 at 2:02 PM

The elites are not going to let their golden boy Romney go down without dirty tricks. They’ll throw anyone in the ring to take votes away from Newt.

HellCat on January 24, 2012 at 2:06 PM

For Charlie Crist to be involved with Romney’s campaign, really shows how dirty Romney will play the game.

Typicalwhitewoman on January 24, 2012 at 1:59 PM

He is? Unfu****g believable.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 2:08 PM

I contributed to the Newt-a-nator this morning.
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Even a small amount of $10, as a ‘new donor on the Newt bandwagon’, increases the ability of Newt, to go get the “big money” from casino magnate, Sheldon Adelson and the other Kingmakers.

Typicalwhitewoman on January 24, 2012 at 2:13 PM

He is? Unfu****g believable.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 2:08 PM

Apparently Crist’s people are heavily involved in the running of Romney’s campaign, which is probably part of the reason why he’s doing so poorly (in addition to his intrinsic flaws).

I just had a strange thought that Mitt may actually be the best thing to happen for the Tea Party movement.

The Elites pushing Mitt have exposed themselves to us for what they really are- unconcerned about principles, unconcerned about conservatism, simply going for their own bottom line and cowardly hand-wringing.

Most of the time the elites are smart enough to get behind someone (like GWB) that is at least palatable to the base. This time they went too far, and it’s possibly paving the way for a firecracker like Newt that would never have a chance otherwise.

Interesting times.

Galadriel on January 24, 2012 at 1:59 PM

This is basically correct. There are halfway decent establishment candidates out there, but instead they picked someone as weak and unstable as Mitt Romney. Perhaps they really didn’t know how weak he was, or perhaps they thought they could slip a socialist in due to the total loathing the base has for Obama. it really doesn’t matter, they’ve screwed the pooch on this one.

Doomberg on January 24, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Please save this nation from the Bushes.

Dante on January 24, 2012 at 2:16 PM

No more freakin bushie’s. That family has done enough damage to the country and conservative movement. Gov. Palin is the ONLY acceptable option.

God, 300 million people in the country and the establishment hacks in the beltway can only come up w/bushie’s. Incredible!

Danielvito on January 24, 2012 at 1:19 PM

Paul R. or Sarah … either one is good by me ….

conservative tarheel on January 24, 2012 at 2:16 PM

Please no, not Jeb.

Rose on January 24, 2012 at 2:19 PM

The Bush name is trashed for at least another generation thanks to repugnicans taking the easy path of joining in on the carping at W as the cause of the economic meltdown, and their unwillingness to share the blame for any mistakes made in the war on terror. They refused to acknowledge the Iraq invasion was partially for the purpose of changing the entire dynamic in the middle east. No Iraqi freedom, = no Libyan freedon, no freedom in Egypt, Syria none. had B.Hussei’s rats and the repugnicans supported the Iranian freedom movement, we might noy be hearing nuclear war talk now.
No Blame Bush, he’s gone what does the truth or the interests of the country matter when the repugnicans have an elction to win.

borntoraisehogs on January 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM

The Bushes trashed their name themselves, not that there was much left to trash.

Dante on January 24, 2012 at 2:20 PM

No, razor please.

galtani on January 24, 2012 at 2:20 PM

Paul R. or Sarah … either one is good by me ….

conservative tarheel on January 24, 2012 at 2:16 PM

So you’re cool that Ryan voted for TARP (and still defends it), voted for the auto bailouts, and voted to seize CEO bonuses?

Dante on January 24, 2012 at 2:21 PM

the GOP could still stop the train from plunging off the remains of the railroad trestle and sneak Jeb Bush in the back door.

That sounds like an excellent idea; assuming that the GOP leadership want to make sure that Republicans don’t support Obama’s opponent.

In other words: at this point, it looks pretty darned likely that’s what they will do.

logis on January 24, 2012 at 2:21 PM

The Bushes trashed their name themselves, not that there was much left to trash.
Dante on January 24, 2012 at 2:20 PM

The Bush family is probably more popular now than it was in 1980.

Their real crime was in squandering Ronald Reagan’s legacy. And they want to be allowed to finish the job.

logis on January 24, 2012 at 2:26 PM

No more RINO’s please!!!!!!

dogsoldier on January 24, 2012 at 2:26 PM

Since someone took the time to think Jeb Bush would be a good idea, and then his brain could not stop his fingers from typing out that “brilliant idea”….and he thinks the idea of family dynasty is the way to win elections…why not Jeb/Hillary in 2012? Brilliant huh!

It was a suggestion from my cat after she coughed up a wet messy hairball. I think I am getting the hang of this political smart guy stuff….Stay tuned to see what the cat coughs up next time.

DVPTexFla on January 24, 2012 at 2:27 PM

It was a suggestion from my cat after she coughed up a wet messy hairball. I think I am getting the hang of this political smart guy stuff….Stay tuned to see what the cat coughs up next time.

DVPTexFla on January 24, 2012 at 2:27 PM

Hilarious! :-)

daddysgirl on January 24, 2012 at 2:33 PM

Please! No. More. Bushes. I can’t say it any clearer. We’ve had enough RINOs and need no more.

Quartermaster on January 24, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Jeb Bush?

I first I thought this was complete stupidity. No, beyond stupidity – in the realm of idiocy.

Then I realized the brilliance of this strategery.

Have the GOP nominate a candidate to the LEFT of Obama!

Fantastic! All 57 states in a landslide.

‘Course, could nominate Bar. She’s sick and tired of sitting around the house all day listening to George H.W.’s stories that all begin with, “When I was President….”

What complete nonsense. Jeb Bush? Really? Jeb Bush?

Horace on January 24, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Voted for Bush 4 times. 1988, 1992, 2000, 2004. NEVER AGAIN! “compassionate Conservatism” is still Progressivism. NEVER AGAIN!

GISAP on January 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM

The National Review editors have made it official they are now supporting Romney. No surprise there.

oldmans on January 24, 2012 at 2:43 PM

Unfortunately, no matter how qualified Jeb Bush might be, his last name is poison to the independants and even many Rupublicans.

Paul Ryan is clean, articulate, financialy accute and most importantly is feared by Obama. In face to face confrontations, Ryan cleaned Obama’s clock.

We need a young, fresh, conservative, positive candidate who imbues us with a sense that this is a great country who’s best days are yet to come.

We need someone who is electable. He would be.

Alferd Packer on January 24, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Write in Jeb Bush. in FL

anotherJoe on January 24, 2012 at 2:44 PM

Hmm… I’m likin’ it…

Lanceman on January 24, 2012 at 2:45 PM

NO MORE FREAKIN BUSHIE’S AND THEIR CANCEROUS FAMILY TO CONSERVATIVES!

Danielvito on January 24, 2012 at 1:30 PM

‘Cancerous family’? Take it over to DKos. Even after all this time, there’s still plenty of Bush-bashing and Bush-blaming going on over there. You’d be right at home.

George H.W. Bush was a fighter pilot war hero, a Congressman, and CIA Director before he became Vice President and then President, a man who devoted his entire life in service to his country. His son, George W. Bush, although flawed in many respects, had the judgement and resolve to see us through one of the most devastating enemy attacks since Pearl Harbor, and the will to see it through. Say what you want about some of his domestic policy moves and spending initiatives, but W. never made a decision based purely upon political expediency or public popularity or wind-changing polls, as Clinton and so many others have. W. did what he thought was right inasmuch as it was given to him to know the right. It was George W. Bush who stood by General Petraeus and his now-famous surge strategy when all others, in the Pentagon and Congress alike, were dismissing victory in Iraq as impracticable.

And someone like you has the gall to call the Bushes, 41 and 43 in particular, ‘cancerous’? My advice? Sue everyone responsible for making you the person you are today: your parents, your former teachers, your friends (if any), your significant other (if not livestock). They did you wrong.

troyriser_gopftw on January 24, 2012 at 2:48 PM

So, our smarter-than-smart elected officials, can only come up with Jeb Bush for us and Hillary Clinton for them. Too sad.
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P.S. to Sarah Palin, sent with love.

Please get a speech coach to smooth out that redneck, stupid-sounding accent of yours.

My hubbie, Mr. Typicalwhiteman, hates you solely because of it, and leaves the room when you come on for your FOX analysis.

You do yourself a disservice.
We’re proud of you but we cringe a bit.
Your accent is a distraction from your message.

You can step it up a notch, Sarah.
Actors do this all the time when learning a new role.

Typicalwhitewoman on January 24, 2012 at 2:52 PM

Yeah, right morons. Re-elect Obamba by running another Bush. That would be cute.

rjulio on January 24, 2012 at 2:55 PM

Just idiotic!

TruLevinian on January 24, 2012 at 2:57 PM

So you’re cool that Ryan voted for TARP (and still defends it), voted for the auto bailouts, and voted to seize CEO bonuses?

Dante on January 24, 2012 at 2:21 PM

The TARP vote has been explained by Ryan numerous times and plenty of conservatives, especially ones who watch the markets and business completely agree with him, especially because the choice was not TARP and some conservative alternative, it was TARP or nothing. Nothing would have left a significant chance at a collapsed economy with a radically liberal president being sworn in with a filibuster proof majority. Yeah, we saw how that worked last time. No thanks. He’s said over and over that had Republicans controlled the House they would have done something different than what Pelosi did. That’s what happens when Republicans don’t vote and let extremists like Pelosi become Speaker.

Auto bailouts was supported by his district overwhelmingly because he represents a blue district. Part of his job is to represent the people who elect him to serve (something we saw the opposite of during Obamacare’s debates by Democrats). We may not like it, but it’s not that unreasonable for him to do that.

AIG stuff, very stupid and something he’s said was stupid. Every politician makes stupid votes. I’ll still take Ryan over Newt or Romney (or Christie or Daniels) any day.

cpaulus on January 24, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Um, No.

Wasn’t worth a first look-see.

lucyvanpelt on January 24, 2012 at 3:00 PM

NO MORE BUSH is not just a Gillette ad.

Archivarix on January 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM

That reminds me of the old joke about Hillary getting a Brazilian wax, then going up on stage and lifting her skirt to exclaim, “NO MORE BUSH”.

NoNails on January 24, 2012 at 3:00 PM

borntoraisehogs on January 24, 2012 at 1:21 PM

Please go back to raising hogs. DEMwit pigs are no longer accepted in the republican discussion of who WE want to run.

landowner on January 24, 2012 at 3:01 PM

AIG stuff, very stupid and something he’s said was stupid. Every politician makes stupid votes. I’ll still take Ryan over Newt or Romney (or Christie or Daniels) any day.

cpaulus on January 24, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Ditto.

lucyvanpelt on January 24, 2012 at 3:04 PM

The only good thing about the fact that we’re going to lose this election is that we’ll finally be done with some of these jokers. Romney and Gingrich won’t be viable candidates again. Paul will be too dead or too nearly dead to run a national campaign. Cain is already done forever. No one in 2016 is going to know who the hell Huntsman and Pawlenty are. The Bachmann star will have long since faded. And people will vaguely recollect something about Santorum but won’t be able to pinpoint just who he is or why they kind of remember the name.

That will give us a fresh slate of candidates in 2016 who will be well accomplished and won’t have been through the meat grinder of this primary. People like Christie, Paul Ryan, mmmmmmaybe Mitch Daniels, Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, and Bob McDonnell.

That’s the silver lining we can hope to see after the smoke clears from the current disaster unfolding before us.

dczombie on January 24, 2012 at 3:05 PM

That will give us a fresh slate of candidates in 2016 who will be well accomplished and won’t have been through the meat grinder of this primary. People like Christie, Paul Ryan, mmmmmmaybe Mitch Daniels, Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, and Bob McDonnell.

That’s the silver lining we can hope to see after the smoke clears from the current disaster unfolding before us.

dczombie on January 24, 2012 at 3:05 PM

When you included Christie in your list, you lost all credibility.

NoNails on January 24, 2012 at 3:09 PM

When you included Christie in your list, you lost all credibility.

NoNails on January 24, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Oh good gravy. It’s silly to say I lost all credibility because I included Gov. Christie in a list of potential 2016 candidates. He will have served at least one full term as governor by that point, he is well liked in the party, has national name recognition, and would be a legitimate contender for the nomination assuming he doesn’t have some major scandal between now and then. I didn’t say he’d be my preferred candidate. I said he’d likely be among those running. There’s nothing about that analysis that lacks credibility.

dczombie on January 24, 2012 at 3:14 PM

When you included Christie in your list, you lost all credibility.

NoNails on January 24, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Christie is at least a fiscal con who might fight the left on some issues. This is waaaaaaaay better than the current establishment candidate we have.

He is not my first choice by a long shot though.

Doomberg on January 24, 2012 at 3:15 PM

I can say few things about how my Tea Party compatriots will vote. However, I can safely bet that it would be a big NO for another Bush.

Mutnodjmet on January 24, 2012 at 3:15 PM

That will give us a fresh slate of candidates in 2016 who will be well accomplished

and won’t have been through the meat grinder of this primary. People like Christie, Paul Ryan, mmmmmmaybe Mitch Daniels, Bobby Jindal, Marco Rubio, and Bob McDonnell.

That’s the silver lining we can hope to see after the smoke clears from the current disaster unfolding before us.

dczombie on January 24, 2012 at 3:05 PM

When you included Christie in your list, you lost all credibility.

NoNails on January 24, 2012 at 3:09 PM

yep .. also assuming we have anyting to build on in 16 …. not sure if we will …

conservative tarheel on January 24, 2012 at 3:18 PM

NO.

I’m sick of hearing the name “Bush”. I’m very confident that Bush wouldn’t get a single liberal vote and would not even garner 50% of the independent votes, likely not even 60% of conservative votes thanks to his brother’s and father’s record.

Can we exclude ALL progressive leaning candidates from republican consideration SOMEHOW please?

Wolfmoon on January 24, 2012 at 3:21 PM

Can we exclude ALL progressive leaning candidates from republican consideration SOMEHOW please?

Wolfmoon on January 24, 2012 at 3:21 PM

I don’t know. If the Conservative Purity Brigade can arbitrarily apply the Conservative label to Newt Gingrich, influence peddler for Freddie Mac and strong believer in the Big Government Solution To Everything, then I don’t think Jeb Bush can be discounted for his more moderate views. He can, of course, be discounted for his lack of accomplishment, but that’s another line of argument.

troyriser_gopftw on January 24, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Paul Ryan is clean, articulate…

We need a young, fresh, conservative, positive candidate who imbues us with a sense that this is a great country who’s best days are yet to come.

We need someone who is electable. He would be.

Alferd Packer on January 24, 2012 at 2:44 PM

You do realize that if you substitute Obama for Paul Ryan and moderate sounding for conservative, the Democratic party politicians were saying exactly the same thing about Obama in the last Democratic primaries.

I’ve rather have Sarah or anyone who’s willing to stand up and fight at the top of the ticket. Paul Ryan might make a good Treasury Secretary.

Gladtobehere on January 24, 2012 at 3:35 PM

I knew there was more to Jeb’s remaining “neutral” You can’t endorse someone if you’re hoping for a shot at it yourself.

pamiam on January 24, 2012 at 3:38 PM

I’ve rather have Sarah or anyone who’s willing to stand up and fight at the top of the ticket. Paul Ryan might make a good Treasury Secretary.

Gladtobehere on January 24, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Sarah Palin isn’t running and wouldn’t win if she did, especially not after the big tease fiasco early in the primaries. Neither is Ryan running, although to his credit, I didn’t hear him burble on about ‘family considerations’ as a reason for not stepping up. But it’s all moot, anyway. Can’t win if they don’t play.

troyriser_gopftw on January 24, 2012 at 3:44 PM

It was non-stop Presidents Bush from the great Ronald to the powerless Republicans after the 2006 and 2008 elections.

Now that we’ve fought hard and are finally seeing a chance to hold real power in DC again they want us to hand that power back to the Bush family to squander again?

Hell No!

RJL on January 24, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Hey, Jazz, you can try a FOURTH look at him if you’d like, but it isn’t going to do you, or anyone else any good. Do you really think America is ready for another Bush? What planet did you just come from??

jfs756 on January 24, 2012 at 3:47 PM

It was non-stop Presidents Bush from the great Ronald to the powerless Republicans after the 2006 and 2008 elections.

RJL on January 24, 2012 at 3:45 PM

Wait, what? We had a President Bush from 1993-2001? How did I miss that?

dczombie on January 24, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Gladtobehere
Sarah who’s willing to stand up and fight? Where have you been the last couple of years? We’re discussing people that have a chance of winning, not someone who’s time has passed or is at best far in the future. I’d rather have Ronald Reagan, but that isn’t going to happen either.

They may have been saying some of the same things as about Obama, but can you seriously compare Ryan who has been in the front lines fighting for fiscal sanity to the back bench dolt that is Obama.

Alferd Packer on January 24, 2012 at 3:51 PM

Can’t we just get ol’ Jeb to hang out with Crist and they can both work on their melanin issues together.

platypus on January 24, 2012 at 4:07 PM

I was all for someone else getting in the race… back before we’d had the first caucus and primaries.

Now, I feel like – screw those guys. They had their chance. They could’ve gotten in long ago. I’m not crazy about any of these nominees, but at least they had the guts to get in the race, and they’ve had the guts to stick with it and slug it out.

Something you CAN’T say about the so-called “A-team”.

/Yes, I’ve been reading that Stephens op-ed in the WSJ. Best piece of this cycle so far, I think.

Purple Fury on January 24, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Sure why not, since it really doesn’t matter. Maybe the collapse that the next president is going to oversee will be great enough to destroy the Bush name once and for all, and we’ll never have to worry about another Bush.

DFCtomm on January 24, 2012 at 1:23 PM

and I’m of the mindset of that it’s better not to have a Marxist overseeing the collapse and taking even more power, and the outside chance that a non-Marxist might get elected and be able to slow a 90 MPH crash down to a series of 10 MPH parking lot fender benders.

Dr. ZhivBlago on January 24, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Who’s the idiot(s) in the GOP who think anyone’s going to vote for a 3rd BUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Really!!!!!!!

Dread Pirate Roberts VI on January 24, 2012 at 5:19 PM

Basically the GOP elite has become like Hollywood…

Who is up for Bush III. Like Bush I and II were so great to begin with.

William Eaton on January 24, 2012 at 5:26 PM

I’ve got a better plan for Jeb Bush:

Run for the Senate against Bill Nelson, and help President Romney or President Gingrich to get conservative Justices into SCOTUS.

Steve Z on January 24, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Steve Z on January 24, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Yes. Or block the hell out of every Obama appointee if he wins a second term.

dczombie on January 24, 2012 at 5:53 PM

MoreLiberty: “you neocon faux conservatives are hilarious. It appears that you are more concerned about electing someone with an (R) next their name.”

I too am a former Marine with three years in combat in the days when there were no smart weapons, GPS, lasers, geewhiz technologies, niffty looking sunglasses, or even radios that worked. In fact, my uniform rotted off of me in the jungles and marking my position for close air support was with a mirror. So what? It’s irrelevant and you demonstrate immaturity trying to suggest that somehow your service gives you some sort of political credentials. it doesn’t. Stupid doesn’t care who or what you are.

The world is not black and white nor can it be neatly divided into good and bad. The enemy of my enemies is my friend is a reasonable diplomatic philosophy. Therefore, we support all sorts of shady characters because the choice is the lesser of two evils not good and bad.

Jimmy Carter thought the Shah of Iran was evil and forced him out. Look what we have been dealing with since. Much worse that a flawed Shah.

So it seems that you are more concerned about electing someone with a (D) next to their name, than dealing with reality.

Republicans have many flaws and they too have run up the debt and over-spent. But they pale by comparison to the harm that Democrats have done to the country.

I’ll vote for a head of cabbage over Obama even if it has a (Z) next to its name.

What’s your point?

BMF on January 24, 2012 at 5:59 PM

dczombie on January 24, 2012 at 5:53 PM

Steve Z on January 24, 2012 at 5:37 PM

Yes … I like that …. but for the WH … no thanks ….

conservative tarheel on January 24, 2012 at 6:07 PM

Sarah Palin isn’t running and wouldn’t win if she did, especially not after the big tease fiasco early in the primaries. Neither is Ryan running, although to his credit, I didn’t hear him burble on about ‘family considerations’ as a reason for not stepping up. But it’s all moot, anyway. Can’t win if they don’t play.

troyriser_gopftw on January 24, 2012 at 3:44 PM

I’m well aware that Sarah isn’t running, I was simply expressing a wish as to who I thought would be an ideal candidate. As for Ryan, you’re confusing me with the previous poster. I don’t want Ryan for POTUS. While he’s shown some independence, his proposals wouldn’t have worked anyway. They were just bold enough to scare some people without really solving anything. Ryan knows he proposed half-measures, but I think he wants to start a debate. Unfortunately, the country isn’t ready for it. Maybe his time will come later.

Gladtobehere on January 24, 2012 at 6:23 PM

No Thank you.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 24, 2012 at 6:58 PM

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