Open thread: Hey, who’s up for an hour-long lecture on “fairness”? Update: Full text added; Update: Text of Daniels’s rebuttal added

posted at 8:25 pm on January 24, 2012 by Allahpundit

9 p.m. ET all across the dial. I promise you this: No matter how bad you think this will be, it’ll be even worse. Don’t believe me? Go read Matt Welch’s Frankenstein State of the Union, stitched together from the remains of more than five decades of SOTU addresses. Ninety percent of these speeches is boilerplate that gets repeated by Democratic and Republican presidents alike year after tedious year. The only reason to watch is that other 10 percent.

And I think you can guess what that’ll be about.

“We can either settle for a country where a shrinking number of people do really well, while a growing number of Americans barely get by,” Mr. Obama says in brief excerpts of the speech released by the White House on Tuesday evening. “Or we can restore an economy where everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share and everyone plays by the same set of rules.”

By putting a significant accent on taxes, where his differences with Congressional Republicans have always been pronounced, Mr. Obama renews the pressure on them to extend once again a temporary payroll tax break for most working Americans — and also amplifies the attention that has been focused all week on the wealth of Mitt Romney, one of his leading challengers, who has disclosed that he pays less than 15 percent on income of more than $20 million a year.

For weeks, Mr. Obama and his aides have been signaling that the theme of Tuesday’s speech, scheduled to begin at 9 p.m. Eastern Time, would be that the richest Americans should shoulder more of the nation’s tax burden, that the middle class should have a shot at prosperity and that the disadvantaged should be provided social scaffolding to help them climb upward.

In case you’re a prominent Democrat and that’s too complicated for you to follow, the White House also issued a set of talking points for the speech today. Meanwhile, Warren Buffett’s secretary will be onhand for the obligatory Skutnik moment when he calls for a new “Buffett Rule” on taxes (soon to become the “Romney Rule” if Mitt is the nominee). The Buffett Rule won’t fix entitlements and it won’t erase our deficits, but it might get The One re-elected — it’s popular, after all — and of course that’s what really matters. (His own top economic advisors warned him long ago that our current deficits are unsustainable, but oh well.) Apparently he’s also planning to say “I intend to fight obstruction with action” to show that he’s a can-do man of action, so if you liked those unconstitutional recess appointments earlier this month, good news: There may be more illegal power grabs to come.

Meanwhile, via Boehner’s office, a few snippets from Mitch Daniels’s rebuttal:

The extremism that stifles the development of homegrown energy, or cancels a perfectly safe pipeline that would employ tens of thousands, or jacks up consumer utility bills for no improvement in either human health or world temperature, is a pro-poverty policy. It must be replaced by a passionate pro-growth approach that breaks all ties and calls all close ones in favor of private sector jobs that restore opportunity for all and generate the public revenues to pay our bills…

It’s not fair and it’s not true for the President to attack Republicans in Congress as obstacles on these questions. They and they alone have passed bills to reduce borrowing, reform entitlements, and encourage new job creation, only to be shot down nearly time and again by the President and his Democrat Senate allies…

No feature of the Obama Presidency has been sadder than its constant efforts to divide us, to curry favor with some Americans by castigating others. As in previous moments of national danger, we Americans are all in the same boat. If we drift, quarreling and paralyzed, over a Niagara of debt, we will all suffer, regardless of income, race, gender, or other category. If we fail to shift to a pro-jobs, pro-growth economic policy, there will never be enough public revenue to pay for our safety net, national security, or whatever size government we decide to have.

Let the Daniels 2012 speculation begin! Here’s your handy dandy Hot Air/Townhall widget for livetweeting plus a sneak preview of tonight’s address that was released a few days ago — by Obama’s campaign, not by the White House. Like Krauthammer says, “This is all about reelection. This is not a State of the Union, it’s the state of the presidency.” Exit question: Will he attack the Supreme Court again tonight or is it some other group’s turn to be demagogued?

Update: National Journal has the text of O’s speech as prepared for delivery. Key bit:

Tax reform should follow the Buffett rule: If you make more than $1 million a year, you should not pay less than 30 percent in taxes. And my Republican friend Tom Coburn is right: Washington should stop subsidizing millionaires. In fact, if you’re earning a million dollars a year, you shouldn’t get special tax subsidies or deductions. On the other hand, if you make under $250,000 a year, like 98 percent of American families, your taxes shouldn’t go up. You’re the ones struggling with rising costs and stagnant wages. You’re the ones who need relief.

Now, you can call this class warfare all you want. But asking a billionaire to pay at least as much as his secretary in taxes? Most Americans would call that common sense.

We don’t begrudge financial success in this country. We admire it. When Americans talk about folks like me paying my fair share of taxes, it’s not because they envy the rich. It’s because they understand that when I get tax breaks I don’t need and the country can’t afford, it either adds to the deficit, or somebody else has to make up the difference – like a senior on a fixed income; or a student trying to get through school; or a family trying to make ends meet. That’s not right. Americans know it’s not right. They know that this generation’s success is only possible because past generations felt a responsibility to each other, and to their country’s future, and they know our way of life will only endure if we feel that same sense of shared responsibility. That’s how we’ll reduce our deficit. That’s an America built to last.

Update: And here’s Daniels’s rebuttal, again as prepared for delivery.

A second view, which I admit some Republicans also seem to hold, is that we Americans are no longer up to the job of self-government. We can’t do the simple math that proves the unaffordability of today’s safety net programs, or all the government we now have. We will fall for the con job that says we can just plow ahead and someone else will pick up the tab. We will allow ourselves to be pitted one against the other, blaming our neighbor for troubles worldwide trends or our own government has caused.

2012 must be the year we prove the doubters wrong. The year we strike out boldly not merely to avert national bankruptcy but to say to a new generation that America is still the world’s premier land of opportunity. Republicans will speak for those who believe in the dignity and capacity of the individual citizen; who believe that government is meant to serve the people rather than supervise them; who trust Americans enough to tell them the plain truth about the fix we are in, and to lay before them a specific, credible program of change big enough to meet the emergency we are facing.



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Oh man, the Drunk Diane Sawyer and the meterosexual George Snuffaluffaghous are hosting on ABC.

carbon_footprint on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

I’m going to TRY to watch this. But I can hardly stand to watch him.

Or this batch of co-players that are trotting out now.

Alana on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Your right wingers will have to deal with this for 4 more years…

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Meanwhile, Warren Buffett’s secretary will be onhand for the obligatory Skutnik moment when he calls for a new “Buffett Rule” on taxes (soon to become the “Romney Rule” if Mitt is the nominee).

Zap, you’re good!

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

BEST PRESIDENT EVER!!!!

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:00 PM

In the last 8 recessions he has done the worst job in relation to job growth and economic growth. Heh. Nice work./

CW on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

The bilch is late.

Key West Reader on January 24, 2012 at 8:58 PM

As usual…

IrishEi on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Oh lookie, it’s Gabrielle Giffords! You know, the one the tea-partiers shot.

Alana on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

It’s obvious that Teresa smacked Ho Chi Kerry in the Face.

He probably wants another Purple Heart.

sentinelrules on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Ruth ginsbergs lips were purple

blatantblue on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Kerry looks like he’s been on another secret mission up the river to Cambodia.

Mark1971 on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

BEST PRESIDENT EVER!!!!

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Still injecting milk under your kneecaps I see.

rickyricardo on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

If Kerry had been involved in a hockey incident, I am sure he would be demanding another medal for heroism…

JIMV on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Roberts, Ginsburg, Kennedy, Kagan, Breyer are the justices in attendance. No Sotomayor, Thomas, Alito, Scalia

diogenes on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Gabby Giffords looks pretty good…

OmahaConservative on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

And Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who was shot, of course, by an angry Tea Party member….

carbon_footprint on January 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM

It is devoutly to be wished that this is the last “historical” SOTU from this malignant adolescent.

While Buffett’s secretary is available for an interview, I hope someone later asks her whether her boss has paid his overdue income tax.

onlineanalyst on January 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM

I’m going to TRY to watch this. But I can hardly stand to watch him.

Or this batch of co-players that are trotting out now.

Alana on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

You love him just admit it!!

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM

That is a beautiful color on Michelle.

McDuck on January 24, 2012 at 8:59 PM

That color says so much about her husband !!

burrata on January 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Can’t watch. Playing with my pussies.
*I have 2 cats and a kitteh*

annoyinglittletwerp on January 24, 2012 at 8:47 PM

WOAH there!
Oh!…thank goodness I’m a speed reader! (:>)

KOOLAID2 on January 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM

my word, how much work has hillary had done on that face? nice jersey shore poof though!

dbilly76 on January 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM

liberal4life on January 24

You didn’t see the latest Gallup poll did you?

Even Newt is within the margin of error with Obama. Even Newt. LOL

CW on January 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Oof, a Blue Whale. I thought they were near extinction?

carbon_footprint on January 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM

to show that he’s a can-do man of action

Who, other than a gnat-brain, will believe him, after partying, floundering, golfing for 3 1/2 years?

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM

And there’s Michelle in her look-at-me cocktail dress. And Hillary, in her no-I’m-really-only-27-years-old hairdo.

Alana on January 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Your right wingers will have to deal with this for 4 more years…

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

I sincerely doubt they’ll let Obama give the rebuttal the next 4 years.

El_Terrible on January 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM

BEST PRESIDENT EVER!!!!

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Window licker.

Key West Reader on January 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Sham Wow Presidency.

sentinelrules on January 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Michelle Obama is wearing one ugly-azz prom dress.

MidniteRambler on January 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Had to bail on the ABC coverage. Was getting a bit sick to my stomach.

carbon_footprint on January 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Oh man, the Drunk Diane Sawyer and the meterosexual George Snuffaluffaghous are hosting on ABC.

carbon_footprint on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

All brownnosing azzkissing cheerleading…

OmahaConservative on January 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Ruth ginsbergs lips were purple

blatantblue on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

SEIU color :D

burrata on January 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM

BEST PRESIDENT EVER!!!!

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:00 PM

Shaddap!

/slap

Ward Cleaver on January 24, 2012 at 9:05 PM

On time.

Electrongod on January 24, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Is anyone going to give the Tea Party response??..:)

Dire Straits on January 24, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Careful, if you don’t think Michelle Obama is the sexiest woman in the world, you’re a racist.

sentinelrules on January 24, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Sorry folks, can’t do it. I have a hard time listening to that jackass on a good day and I am already getting burnt out with the primary. Y’all have fun and I admire your collective fortitude.

HawaiiLwyr on January 24, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Oh hail the great emperor of the United States!

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:05 PM

SCFOaMF

carbon_footprint on January 24, 2012 at 9:05 PM

The capitol police just slapped the cuffs on Eric Holder../

d1carter on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Don’t tease me like that. That’s rubbing the lamp and not wanting the genie to come out.

Sekhmet on January 24, 2012 at 9:05 PM

puke!

Flora Duh on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Oof, a Blue Whale. I thought they were near extinction?

carbon_footprint on January 24, 2012 at 9:03 PM

I want to know who manufactured that industrial strength abdominal and posterior containment system.

/HT: MichellesMirror.com

Key West Reader on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

“This is all about reelection. This is not a State of the Union, it’s the state of the presidency.”

It’s all about the Obamas’ carnival.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Sounded like he said “the present of the United States”

Ronnie on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

there is the criminal class who rule over us.

envycat on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

BoBo has entered…more pomp…no substance…Let the spin begin

JIMV on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

HI Boys and Girls…

… You didn’t think I would miss another chance for a drinking game, did you?

/

Seven Percent Solution on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

What the heck are all these people so happy about.

Alana on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Oh. So we let an imbecile play President for four years to make it “fair”? For imbeciles? Or something?

Jaibones on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I’m going to TRY to watch this. But I can hardly stand to watch him.

Or this batch of co-players that are trotting out now.

Alana on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

don’t watch it with the sound on.

Just play “GOD BLESS THE U.S.A.” and “HEY HEY HEY, GOODBYE” in a shuffle on your iTunes while he talks.

PappyD61 on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I can’t watch it either. Someone will have to translate it for me.

I have no clue how to make any sense of the twisted mind that controls the speech of the Great Orator.

HellCat on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I guess some politicians are Occupiers too.
Staking out their turf 18 hours in advance..

Electrongod on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Here comes the Sludge, Here Comes the Sludge.

sentinelrules on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Blue satin on Michelle….who is her prom partner tonight? Satin?

herm2416 on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I’m listening, not watching. Have they had to pull Sheila Jackson Lee off of his leg yet?

Flora Duh on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Where is Seven Per Cent..We have to get the drinking rules for tonight..:)

Dire Straits on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

quick before i land seesalrun here glad i don’t have to endure he torture but happy to comment on hafrom like 30000 feet,and yes i am the old seesal Godspeed and forgive my typos

seesalrun2 on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

I am not watching but ARE THEIR GREEK COLUMNS?

CW on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

I hesitate to watch, that Obama will say what kind of country we are, or are not, when he doesn’t have a clue what kind of country we are or are not. Now we’re the kind of country who borrows $1.5T a year from China and others so we can ruin our grandkids’ lives. We’re the kind of country obsessed with class and envy of those who have more than we do. I have the sound down so I can see Obama’s smiling face.

Paul-Cincy on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

There’s the Queen of Texas, in her usual position.

slickwillie2001 on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Did any of the Supreme Court justices show up?

matthew8787 on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Your right wingers will have to deal with this for 4 more years…

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

As Vice President Joe would say…BITE-ME!

KOOLAID2 on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Yawn. I’d rather watch the grass grow. Actually, there’s a hockey game that I want to watch.

COgirl on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

SJL, just like clockwork.

mickytx on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Oh hail the great emperor of the United States!

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Yes, we are also welcoming the Imperor!

/Try not to lick the windows on your short bus, um k?
::::snicker::::

:o)

Key West Reader on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

In regards to jobs-from CNS:

Alabama’s unemployment rate has suddenly started dropping fast – and much faster than its neighboring states – raising the intriguing possibility that the conventional wisdom that illegal immigrants “take jobs that Americans won’t do” is wrong, at least when the economy is terrible.

The state’s unemployment rate fell 1.2 percentage points in three months – September through November – a much faster improvement than achieved in any of its neighboring states.

Alabama’s unemployment rate in November was 8.1 percent, compared to 9.8 percent just three months before, and dropped twice as fast over three months as it did in Tennessee, down 0.6 percent to 9.1 percent, and Florida, where it dropped 0.6 to 10 percent.

CW on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

“Don’t get lipstick on me.”
OK, don’t see that one on the bingo card.

Ronnie on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Tina’s watching SOTU with a couple of oily men? Whoa…cable pay-per-view heaven.

Jaibones on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

With all the clapping….
I thought I was hearing a Newt debate.

Electrongod on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Michelle Obama is wearing one ugly-azz prom dress.

MidniteRambler on January 24, 2012 at 9:04 PM

Ah. Sticking with tradition, is she?

predator on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Whoever said “Washington is Hollywood for ugly people.” certainly knew what he was talking about.

Oldnuke on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Obama neglecting that white woman in red who is whispering sweet nothings into his ear ,
but
he hugs the black woman in green as if she is her crack connection

burrata on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Did anyone stick the ‘kick me’ sign on his back? cowards!

tinkerthinker on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Robot Willard can only dream of these things

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Gee, I hope he’s got a plan. Three years in, no plan yet. I want a plan. Let’s call it a blueprint.

Paul-Cincy on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

What the heck are all these people so happy about.

Alana on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Obama farted and they are blessed enough to savor the aroma.

Flora Duh on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

Why is Warren Buffet’s secretary wearing a train conductor’s uniform?

SlaveDog on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

“You are so, so black, Mr. President!” Proudly exclaimed by the liberal black congresswomen.

carbon_footprint on January 24, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Wow. Hillary actually washed her hair for this…

OmahaConservative on January 24, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Whoa! BIG hug for Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

IrishEi on January 24, 2012 at 9:09 PM

I am not watching but ARE THEIR GREEK COLUMNS?

CW on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Well, that’s debatable. They might be draped in blue fabric and kept undercover.

/M.A.O. in the house

Key West Reader on January 24, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Did any of the Supreme Court justices show up?

matthew8787 on January 24, 2012 at 9:07 PM
-

Roberts, Ginsburg, Kennedy, Kagan, Breyer are the justices in attendance. No Sotomayor, Thomas, Alito, Scalia

diogenes on January 24, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Fox News Channel and the SotUA, off.

MTV’s “White Trash Teen Mom”, on.

Seriously, I’d rather watch reruns of this trainwreck of a reality show than listen to Soetoro call for the collectivization of agriculture “economic justice”.

MidniteRambler on January 24, 2012 at 9:09 PM

For once I would like to see a president come out, talk for about five minutes, then say “OK, that’s it. Go back to what you were doing.”

Mark1971 on January 24, 2012 at 9:09 PM

I want to know who manufactured that industrial strength abdominal and posterior containment system.

/HT: MichellesMirror.com

Key West Reader on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

There’s Spanx and then there’s SPAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNXXXXXXXXXXX

Sekhmet on January 24, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Bless you people for watching this charade. I cannot stomach it this year. I’ll pop in to see what people think afterwards. I know, terribly cowardly, but I need what little sanity I have left.

JonPrichard on January 24, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Why is Warren Buffet’s secretary wearing a train conductor’s uniform?

SlaveDog on January 24, 2012 at 9:08 PM

That is all she could afford after all those taxes she pays.

CW on January 24, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Your right wingers will have to deal with this for 4 more years…

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

So will you. The only difference will be in that we KNOW we’re being screwed. You think he actually likes you.

Cleombrotus on January 24, 2012 at 9:10 PM

HawaiiLwyr on January 24, 2012 at 9:05 PM

If I lived in a place with beaches like you have, there’s not enough money to get me to watch this barf. Just saying.

platypus on January 24, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Bob Scheifer is going to need to rinse…

Coolidge_Conservative on January 24, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Your right wingers will have to deal with this for 4 more years…

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 9:02 PM

The Belief Disconfirmation Paradigm. for your sake dude, check it out.

t8stlikchkn on January 24, 2012 at 9:10 PM

He’s praising people, “good job tonight.” Praising them for showing up for his speech???

And then he’s kissing up to SCOTUS. Ugggg….

doublezero12 on January 24, 2012 at 9:10 PM

REAL America should tune in tonight. They’ll see why they will lose so badly in November.

KeninCT on January 24, 2012 at 9:10 PM

You didn’t think I would miss another chance for a drinking game, did you?

Seven Percent Solution on January 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Bet mine is more fun than yours. I have a glass of Jameson, the TV is off, and I’m surfing HotAir and various other sites for the snark. Not a speck of O’Bozo or his angry b!tch wife.

Jaibones on January 24, 2012 at 9:10 PM

I figure if I wanted to watch footage of Lenin, there’s plenty out there. I’ll just stick to commenting on the thread

Sekhmet on January 24, 2012 at 9:11 PM

There’s no way in h3ll I would watch this. If I were into pain and abuse, I’d get a hot brunette to beat me with a whip instead of subjecting myself to the humility of watching this lying tool.

xblade on January 24, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Oh wow, that Moochelle is one handsome woman.

carbon_footprint on January 24, 2012 at 9:11 PM

For once I would like to see a president come out, talk for about five minutes, then say “OK, that’s it. Go back to what you were doing.”

Mark1971 on January 24, 2012 at 9:09 PM

What’s the over/under on a finish time? 10:00PM EST?

Paul-Cincy on January 24, 2012 at 9:11 PM

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