Open thread: Hey, who’s up for an hour-long lecture on “fairness”? Update: Full text added; Update: Text of Daniels’s rebuttal added

posted at 8:25 pm on January 24, 2012 by Allahpundit

9 p.m. ET all across the dial. I promise you this: No matter how bad you think this will be, it’ll be even worse. Don’t believe me? Go read Matt Welch’s Frankenstein State of the Union, stitched together from the remains of more than five decades of SOTU addresses. Ninety percent of these speeches is boilerplate that gets repeated by Democratic and Republican presidents alike year after tedious year. The only reason to watch is that other 10 percent.

And I think you can guess what that’ll be about.

“We can either settle for a country where a shrinking number of people do really well, while a growing number of Americans barely get by,” Mr. Obama says in brief excerpts of the speech released by the White House on Tuesday evening. “Or we can restore an economy where everyone gets a fair shot, everyone does their fair share and everyone plays by the same set of rules.”

By putting a significant accent on taxes, where his differences with Congressional Republicans have always been pronounced, Mr. Obama renews the pressure on them to extend once again a temporary payroll tax break for most working Americans — and also amplifies the attention that has been focused all week on the wealth of Mitt Romney, one of his leading challengers, who has disclosed that he pays less than 15 percent on income of more than $20 million a year.

For weeks, Mr. Obama and his aides have been signaling that the theme of Tuesday’s speech, scheduled to begin at 9 p.m. Eastern Time, would be that the richest Americans should shoulder more of the nation’s tax burden, that the middle class should have a shot at prosperity and that the disadvantaged should be provided social scaffolding to help them climb upward.

In case you’re a prominent Democrat and that’s too complicated for you to follow, the White House also issued a set of talking points for the speech today. Meanwhile, Warren Buffett’s secretary will be onhand for the obligatory Skutnik moment when he calls for a new “Buffett Rule” on taxes (soon to become the “Romney Rule” if Mitt is the nominee). The Buffett Rule won’t fix entitlements and it won’t erase our deficits, but it might get The One re-elected — it’s popular, after all — and of course that’s what really matters. (His own top economic advisors warned him long ago that our current deficits are unsustainable, but oh well.) Apparently he’s also planning to say “I intend to fight obstruction with action” to show that he’s a can-do man of action, so if you liked those unconstitutional recess appointments earlier this month, good news: There may be more illegal power grabs to come.

Meanwhile, via Boehner’s office, a few snippets from Mitch Daniels’s rebuttal:

The extremism that stifles the development of homegrown energy, or cancels a perfectly safe pipeline that would employ tens of thousands, or jacks up consumer utility bills for no improvement in either human health or world temperature, is a pro-poverty policy. It must be replaced by a passionate pro-growth approach that breaks all ties and calls all close ones in favor of private sector jobs that restore opportunity for all and generate the public revenues to pay our bills…

It’s not fair and it’s not true for the President to attack Republicans in Congress as obstacles on these questions. They and they alone have passed bills to reduce borrowing, reform entitlements, and encourage new job creation, only to be shot down nearly time and again by the President and his Democrat Senate allies…

No feature of the Obama Presidency has been sadder than its constant efforts to divide us, to curry favor with some Americans by castigating others. As in previous moments of national danger, we Americans are all in the same boat. If we drift, quarreling and paralyzed, over a Niagara of debt, we will all suffer, regardless of income, race, gender, or other category. If we fail to shift to a pro-jobs, pro-growth economic policy, there will never be enough public revenue to pay for our safety net, national security, or whatever size government we decide to have.

Let the Daniels 2012 speculation begin! Here’s your handy dandy Hot Air/Townhall widget for livetweeting plus a sneak preview of tonight’s address that was released a few days ago — by Obama’s campaign, not by the White House. Like Krauthammer says, “This is all about reelection. This is not a State of the Union, it’s the state of the presidency.” Exit question: Will he attack the Supreme Court again tonight or is it some other group’s turn to be demagogued?

Update: National Journal has the text of O’s speech as prepared for delivery. Key bit:

Tax reform should follow the Buffett rule: If you make more than $1 million a year, you should not pay less than 30 percent in taxes. And my Republican friend Tom Coburn is right: Washington should stop subsidizing millionaires. In fact, if you’re earning a million dollars a year, you shouldn’t get special tax subsidies or deductions. On the other hand, if you make under $250,000 a year, like 98 percent of American families, your taxes shouldn’t go up. You’re the ones struggling with rising costs and stagnant wages. You’re the ones who need relief.

Now, you can call this class warfare all you want. But asking a billionaire to pay at least as much as his secretary in taxes? Most Americans would call that common sense.

We don’t begrudge financial success in this country. We admire it. When Americans talk about folks like me paying my fair share of taxes, it’s not because they envy the rich. It’s because they understand that when I get tax breaks I don’t need and the country can’t afford, it either adds to the deficit, or somebody else has to make up the difference – like a senior on a fixed income; or a student trying to get through school; or a family trying to make ends meet. That’s not right. Americans know it’s not right. They know that this generation’s success is only possible because past generations felt a responsibility to each other, and to their country’s future, and they know our way of life will only endure if we feel that same sense of shared responsibility. That’s how we’ll reduce our deficit. That’s an America built to last.

Update: And here’s Daniels’s rebuttal, again as prepared for delivery.

A second view, which I admit some Republicans also seem to hold, is that we Americans are no longer up to the job of self-government. We can’t do the simple math that proves the unaffordability of today’s safety net programs, or all the government we now have. We will fall for the con job that says we can just plow ahead and someone else will pick up the tab. We will allow ourselves to be pitted one against the other, blaming our neighbor for troubles worldwide trends or our own government has caused.

2012 must be the year we prove the doubters wrong. The year we strike out boldly not merely to avert national bankruptcy but to say to a new generation that America is still the world’s premier land of opportunity. Republicans will speak for those who believe in the dignity and capacity of the individual citizen; who believe that government is meant to serve the people rather than supervise them; who trust Americans enough to tell them the plain truth about the fix we are in, and to lay before them a specific, credible program of change big enough to meet the emergency we are facing.



Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

Comment pages: 1 17 18 19 20 21 22

Mitch Daniels did better than Jindal, it wasn’t bad, but the FNC panel sounds like they’re feeling a tingle up their leg or something. Pretty funny.

FloatingRock on January 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Obama’s state of the union speech next year will be even better.

BedBug on January 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Just that it will be private…
While he shaves in front of the mirror getting ready to hit the course..

Electrongod on January 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Chick on Fox just said that Daniels was “funny”…they are drinking too.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Daniels doesn’t yell or say inflammatory things! He’s not a “Real Conservative”!!!

therightwinger on January 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Sorry Mitch. I liked most of what you have said. However, you don’t have the credibility to clean up Washington when Washington is pushing you.

CTSherman on January 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

See you guys later. I’m going to say quits to politics for awhile, a long long while.

Hopefully Romney gets the nomination. If not, I’ll vote for the eventual GOP nominee in November, but as an Independent for the first time. Today is the day I came to an epiphany that I don’t really belong in the modern conservative movement. I couldn’t cheer and grunt along with the audience when Newt gave his tirade at the beginning of the CNN debate. It just didn’t feel right. All I could remember was Newt’s very own inquisition in the late 1990s. Yet the audience cheered for him and saw no hypocrisy, no dissonance.

Just took a walk outside and realized politics is sh!t, and all of us are pawns to this heaping pile. I have my own life to live.

haner on January 20, 2012 at 1:47 AM

Translation: I just lost my job as a paid Romney shill.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

let’s see, who to vote for;

Obamasatan – that would be a no, no, no, no, no, no, no….

Romneycare – Mr. 13.9% tax that you be a no

Mitch “boring” Daniels- no social issues discussed, ah NO!

Ron “I’m not crazy” Paul – that would be an 80 year old no

Rick ” so i lost by 20 in my re-election race” that would be no

Gingrich – best of a bad bunch

God, I wish Gov. palin ran!

GOP establishment you are filth, moose droppings!

Danielvito on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

canopfor on January 24, 2012 at 10:36 PM
excellent, i guess no one wanted cbs….heh

cmsinaz on January 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM

cmsinaz:)

canopfor on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Hooooooo boy, this one gets stranger by the minute.

Bishop on January 24, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Ask it to come out and play, Double dog dare ya.

Bmore on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

I am stunned tht Uhhhhbama didn’t offer a prayer for Mark Kirk, who won Obama’s seat.

herm2416 on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Some of you should feel privilege he is your president. You don’t even deserve him

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (gasp) woo-whee…lolololololololololololololololol…(catching my breath)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (gasp) woo-whee…lolololololololololololololololol…(catching my breath)….rotfrotfrotfrotf…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (gasp) woo-whee…lolololololololololololololololol…(catching my breath)….rotfrotfrotfrotf…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (gasp) woo-whee…lolololololololololololololololol…(catching my breath)….rotfrotfrotfrotf…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (gasp) woo-whee…lolololololololololololololololol…(catching my breath)….rotfrotfrotfrotf…

GrannyDee on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

FloatingRock on January 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

They must be drinking.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Hate ? Is that what that is? Just giving what was given to Bush by you leftards.

CW on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Your mom won’t tell you this, but you inherited all your charisma from your dad…John Edwards!

KOOLAID2 on January 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

and the best part was left on the sheets.

arnold ziffel on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

bump

Dire Straits on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Mitch, in ten minutes…

… just erased Obowma’s speech of over an hour.

Seven Percent Solution on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Dr. K. throwing bouquets to Daniels. hmm

Flora Duh on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

I’m falling asleep listening to Daniels.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 10:34 PM

Go back to dkos, you piece of sh!t.

haner on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

I can see why this guy’s wife has absolutely no respect for him.

KeninCT on January 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM

It shows every time she will no wait for him to go on vacation, right!

bluemarlin on January 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

RickB on January 24, 2012 at 10:42 PM

lol

cmsinaz on January 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

I am stunned tht Uhhhhbama didn’t offer a prayer for Mark Kirk, who won Obama’s seat.

herm2416 on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

He’s not a decent and good man. The left are praying, but not for the speedy recovery.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Cain’s telling the truth. I wonder if anybody is listening.

ElectricPhase on January 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

This is clearly worse than Jindal’s reply to the SOTU years ago. An accountant, it seems, giving the people a nice reading of his report. Sheesh.

TXUS on January 24, 2012 at 10:40 PM

Wow that is discouraging. WTH is wrong with the people on our side? Can’t they take some lessons on projection? I am tired of losing because we just don’t understand the rules of the game.

We just repeated the Jindal disaster. Cripes.

SparkPlug on January 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Daniels: ‘Republicans will speak for those who believe in the dignity and capacity of the individual citizen’

canopfor on January 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Seven Percent Solution on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

amen 7%

cmsinaz on January 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Obama’s state of the union prison speech next year will be even better.

BedBug on January 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM

FIFY

Gladtobehere on January 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

‘charisma’ got us obama..you guys need to stop ripping daniels for his lack of…jindal got the same thing..i want ideas, plans, not charisma

sadsushi on January 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Yeah but you have to win first. And you need charisma to win. It’s the way the world works.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

You True Conservatives have shown yourself to be a bunch of Dkos trolls.

Go F yourself.

haner on January 24, 2012 at 10:34 PM

You would rather deride Conservatives than Obama. Pitiful.

kingsjester on January 24, 2012 at 10:36 PM

We don’t know how…you’re the expert…show us how it’s done!…or can’t you breathe yet?

KOOLAID2 on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

That was a very strong campaign speech by Obama. It was less partisan than one might have expected. It was definitely leftist (more goodies for all!), but it was delivered in a very clever way that will appeal to independents.

McDuck on January 24, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Strongest indicator yet that he KNOWS that he is in trouble.

My collie says:

The content of Daniels speech was quite good. Too bad that he not a more dynamic speaker.

CyberCipher on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Daniels showed Obama how a presidential-level SOTU address is really done.

Obama used his SOTU as a campaign speech. He sounded like a pastor throwing red meat to his base (sound familiar?)

haner on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

pamplonajack on January 24, 2012 at 10:41 PM

The Mister is 5’4.
As a short woman I prefer short guys.
I’d rather have ‘talent’ than ‘tall’
*Not in that way.
Get your minds out of the gutter.*

annoyinglittletwerp on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

I have never seen such an uncivil and vitriolic group ever. Congrats on that.
Nothing but hate. It must be painful to be you.
Obama’s state of the union speech next year will be even better.

BedBug on January 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Then you’ve never seen the idiots at Huff Post, or Kos.. they routinely set your hair on fire with their views of non-progressive America..

We’re just criticising, they paint strawmen which they then attack..

you must be new at this..

or batting for the democrats.

mark81150 on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

You doubters gotta admit, Obama really gives a good speech.

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 10:42 PM

No, Obama really can READ a good speech, but this wasn’t even a good speech. Lots of crap about expanding the govt, creating new beauracracies, spending more money we haven’t got. Not one blasted word about overloading our debt, spending out of control, muslim arab spring uprising around the world. The man hates this country with every bone in his body. He is setting out to destroy it, to make us a very large third world country, and he is doing a fairly good job of it.

Bikerken on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Some of you should feel privilege he is your president. You don’t even deserve him

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM

canopfor…

… Can you pleeeeaaaase keep a leash on Bishop?

/

Seven Percent Solution on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

However, you don’t have the credibility to clean up Washington when Washington is pushing you.

CTSherman on January 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Yes, how dare elected Washington Republicans support an entitlement reformer to lead them! Everybody knows that the solution is to replace liberal Republicans with Democrats, and support for the presidency one of Medicare Part D’s greatest defenders.

Pusillanimous turd.

KingGold on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

daniels is incredibly boring, and is a killer in the general because

add to that he’ll still be ‘the establishment candidate’ thrown in to the base against their will. low conservative turnout = mccain part 2.

pamplonajack on January 24, 2012 at 10:41 PM

Agreed and just like McCain he complemented the Democrats for a good portion of the speech. He should have pounded down the point that he helped Indiana while Obama was hurting the country. The compliments were very very stupid.

Steveangell on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

We just repeated the Jindal disaster. Cripes.

SparkPlug on January 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Wasn’t that bad. The content was great and spot on.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

You haven’t left yet?

Flora Duh on January 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

haner is on team obama. It is hilarious watching it try and moby.

magical underpants, baptism for the dead, kolob, and all that.

tom daschle concerned on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Daniels: ‘If we drift, quarreling and paralyzed, over a Niagara of debt, we will all suffer’ – full response:

canopfor on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

You doubters gotta admit, Obama really gives a good speech

Don’t confuse “speech” with “performance”.

badtemper on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

roland still being an a$$ towards Ari

shut up!

cmsinaz on January 24, 2012 at 10:47 PM

The comments about Daniel’s speech by the FNC panel are totally ridiculous and over the top. The guy was a snooze. And what was that lisp? Annoying.

Linden on January 24, 2012 at 10:47 PM

I am stunned tht Uhhhhbama didn’t offer a prayer for Mark Kirk, who won Obama’s seat.

herm2416 on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Yeah, I lost that bet.

Fallon on January 24, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Obama was painful to watch, except for the 3 minutes he managed to salute the military – other then that it was the launch of his re-election campaign.

timbok on January 24, 2012 at 10:47 PM

I can only say…major boring shyt.

Trinityangel on January 24, 2012 at 10:48 PM

‘charisma’ got us obama..you guys need to stop ripping daniels for his lack of…jindal got the same thing..i want ideas, plans, not charisma

sadsushi on January 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Yeah but you have to win first. And you need charisma to win. It’s the way the world works.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

There’s also such a thing as being able to speak with ideas and charisma at the same time.

INC on January 24, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Yeah but you have to win first. And you need charisma to win. It’s the way the world works.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Exactly – you’ve got to sell it first.

gophergirl on January 24, 2012 at 10:48 PM

… Can you pleeeeaaaase keep a leash on Bishop?

/

Seven Percent Solution on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Claims not…but whoever it is has lots of fun. ElenaKagan is his/her sister. Sockpuppets for sure, but good for HA Capitalism.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

ok… can we all admit liberal4life is a fake. It has to be some regular pretending to be a liberal. If I was going to pretend to be a liberal in order to make liberals look bad I couldn’t do any better.

He/She’s like the aniti-Colbert

Ampersand on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

At least Danials writes his own speaches….

Barred on January 24, 2012 at 10:42 PM

That’s great. Hey I’ve got nothing against the man. Just saying, he didn’t deliver like he meant those words.

fullogas on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Who is this man with ZERO charisma on my screen?

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 10:39 PM

No dear 0 was the darker man on the first screen, Mitch Daniels is the lighter one on the second screen, go on roll over and go back to sleep it was just a dream.

Bmore on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Hooooooo boy, this one gets stranger by the minute.

Bishop on January 24, 2012 at 10:37 PM

Ask it to come out and play, Double dog dare ya.

Bmore on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

C’mon the guy’s just yankin’ chains to see what rattles. Ignore it and it’ll go away.

Oldnuke on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

We don’t begrudge financial success in this country. We admire it. When Americans talk about folks like me paying my fair share of taxes, it’s not because they envy the rich. It’s because they understand that when I get tax breaks I don’t need and the country can’t afford, it either adds to the deficit, or somebody else has to make up the difference

Don’t begrudge financial success? The blank he doesn’t otherwise he wouldn’t be trying to tax it in a thousand different ways, like the countless ways in which he disguises his true intentions to cover up his lies.

What does he mean by people getting tax breaks they don’t need? Everyone needs every tax break they get, cuz, well, hey, it’s their money. A lot of these taxes are immoral, many are unconstitutional, and they should be illegal.

Oh and tax breaks don’t add to the deficit–out-of-control spending and extravagant vacations add to the deficit. If they’d quit their pathological overspending, no one would have to even consider raising taxes.

stukinIL4now on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Mitch Daniels would have never gotten traction had he ran.

He has ZERO charisma. If Robot Romney is better

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

TXUS on January 24, 2012 at 10:40 PM
SparkPlug on January 24, 2012 at 10:45 PM

Does anyone on our side in a position to make a change ever have some gd fire in their belly? Next thing Boehner will be up sobbing.

arnold ziffel on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

It’s just not a SOTU response without Michele Bachmann showing up, looking off in the middle distance somewhere.

RedRedRice on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

MSNBC Coverage:

Keanu Reeves is interviewing Valerie Jarret.

SlaveDog on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

A quiet voice crying out in the wilderness, or in this case, an empty hall, Daniels just became our nominee for 2012. That speech was a masterpiece.

MaxMBJ on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

While I appreciate what Mitch Daniels has done, quite substantively, for Indiana, calling on him to give the SOTU rebuttal, in this so critical year, was the biggest mistake the RNC has made since I don’t know when.

You might as well have had your barber or the guy down the hall in bookkeeping deliver the message. No passion, no vision, no stirring of the souls. Just a nice guy giving a nice talk at a Rotary meeting. The RNC needs a nuclear enema!

TXUS on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

DANIELS IS BOOORRRRIIINNNNGGGG

pamplonajack on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Wasn’t that bad. The content was great and spot on.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Daniels: ‘If we drift, quarreling and paralyzed, over a Niagara of debt, we will all suffer’ – full response:

canopfor on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

A good speech as far as Obama is concerned. Hey listen to Mitch and give me what I want.

He brought a bean bag to a gun fight.

Steveangell on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

I have never seen such an uncivil and vitriolic group ever. Congrats on that.
Nothing but hate. It must be painful to be you.
Obama’s state of the union speech next year will be even better.

BedBug on January 24, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Then you’ve never seen the idiots at Huff Post, or Kos.. they routinely set your hair on fire with their views of non-progressive America..

We’re just criticising, they paint strawmen which they then attack..

you must be new at this..

or batting for the democrats.

mark81150 on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

And that makes it all okay? Don’t you paint yourselves as the family values party? So much for that.

BedBug on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Some of you should feel privilege he is your president. You don’t even deserve him

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 10:26 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (gasp) woo-whee…lolololololololololololololololol…(catching my breath)HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (gasp) woo-whee…lolololololololololololololololol…(catching my breath)….rotfrotfrotfrotf…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (gasp) woo-whee…lolololololololololololololololol…(catching my breath)….rotfrotfrotfrotf…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (gasp) woo-whee…lolololololololololololololololol…(catching my breath)….rotfrotfrotfrotf…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (gasp) woo-whee…lolololololololololololololololol…(catching my breath)….rotfrotfrotfrotf…

GrannyDee on January 24, 2012 at 10:44 PM

Worth repeating.

Bmore on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Obama covered everything from Clap to Trap with the theatrical enthusiasm of a Three Card Monty pro conning a group of fresh rubes from Hayseed, IN.

That’s what is now considered a “great speech” when it is actually and bamboozlement of non sequiters delivered with mondo pep rally fatuity.

profitsbeard on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Yeah but you have to win first. And you need charisma to win. It’s the way the world works.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

Obama has NO charisma. Anyone who claims the contrary needs to be checked out.

A charismatic and smart person doesn’t need a prompter to speak to kids, nor to adults, nor to anyone.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

There’s also such a thing as being able to speak with ideas and charisma at the same time.

INC on January 24, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Newt does that. But he’s unelectable and a communist.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

gophergirl on January 24, 2012 at 10:48 PM

Since the sexiest part of a guy is what’s between his ears I’ll take wonky Bobby J. over movie star Mitt any day.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 24, 2012 at 10:51 PM

‘charisma’ got us obama..you guys need to stop ripping daniels for his lack of…jindal got the same thing..i want ideas, plans, not charisma

sadsushi on January 24, 2012 at 10:43 PM

Exactly! I want substance not soaring rhetoric. I guess most of the Republicans here are just mad Daniels didn’t give them a thrill up their leg.

Roymunson on January 24, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Who is this man with ZERO charisma on my screen?

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 10:39 PM

And why is there a medicine cabinet behind him?

Ronnie on January 24, 2012 at 10:51 PM

Who would win a cage match between Daniels, Jindal and Cantor? A combined 337 pounds of spindly conservatism duking it out. It would kill on pay per view.

KeninCT on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Obama covered everything from Clap to Trap with the theatrical enthusiasm of a Three Card Monty pro conning a group of fresh rubes from Hayseed, IN.

That’s what is now considered a “great speech” when it is actually and bamboozlement of non sequiters delivered with mondo pep rally fatuity.

profitsbeard on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Either the assesors or the land are nuts.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Mitch Bachmann is looking very nice tonight.

Fallon on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Something’s missing. Oh, here it is.

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_doAV8bx0xg&feature=related

/

S. D. on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Oldnuke on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

Okay, but I still think Bishop should ask it out to play.

Bmore on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Obama has NO charisma. Anyone who claims the contrary needs to be checked out.

A charismatic and smart person doesn’t need a prompter to speak to kids, nor to adults, nor to anyone.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Whatever he has, it works for him. He can read the phone book and people in general will think it sounds great. We can pretend he can’t give a good speech or we can accept the fact he does and it’s one of his pluses on the campaign trail.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Bmore on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

I left you a message in the Nesmax Headlines article..:)

Dire Straits on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

A quiet voice crying out in the wilderness, or in this case, an empty hall, Daniels just became our nominee for 2012. That speech was a masterpiece.

MaxMBJ on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

+1

But all the “True Conservatives” here are bashing it for not having red meat.

I’m tired of both the left and right turning our politics into American f’n Idol.

haner on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Jindal was pretty bad when he made it – two years ago I think. The GOP should have gone with Rubio or West. If they wanted a governor, Susana Martinez.

bw222 on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

And that makes it all okay? Don’t you paint yourselves as the family values party? So much for that.

BedBug on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

BedBug. The people here, for the most part, don’t like Obama. Very much don’t like him.

There are people who don’t like Obama, or his policies. If you can’t deal with that, then try somewhere else.

Alana on January 24, 2012 at 10:53 PM

And that makes it all okay? Don’t you paint yourselves as the family values party? So much for that.

BedBug on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

My family values their individual liberties.

Cleombrotus on January 24, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Our President said nothing that we haven’t heard before, it is rather curious anyone even is arguing that point. He is just trying harder (kinda) to be oh so awesome. Isn’t it rather obvious? I do think he lost his touch of gray. Poor fellow. /s

Trinityangel on January 24, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Seven Percent Solution on January 24, 2012 at 10:46 PM

When I find you, when I find you your skull will become a hood ornament for my truck, your bones will be spokes on one of my Harleys.

Bishop on January 24, 2012 at 10:53 PM

Bachmann is taking obama to task right now on Fox.

tinkerthinker on January 24, 2012 at 10:53 PM

ok folks, gotta leave ya….

see you in the am

cmsinaz on January 24, 2012 at 10:53 PM

l4l is a drunk sockpuppet now.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:53 PM

KeninCT on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Each of those gentlemen have more intellect in their pinkies than Zero has in his entire administration.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 24, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Was it just my TV or did Obama looked jaundiced?

haner on January 24, 2012 at 10:54 PM

Since the sexiest part of a guy is what’s between his ears I’ll take wonky Bobby J. over movie star Mitt any day.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 24, 2012 at 10:51 PM

I need some personality though and some fire so to speak

Give me an alpha male any day of the week.

gophergirl on January 24, 2012 at 10:54 PM

A quiet voice crying out in the wilderness, or in this case, an empty hall, Daniels just became our nominee for 2012. That speech was a masterpiece.

MaxMBJ on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

No passion, no emotion and he’s scared $hitless of wifey.

bw222 on January 24, 2012 at 10:54 PM

People on here find the dumbest things to complain about:

“He complimented the Democrats!!!” — in a speech that the whole country was watching. He was trying to reach the two thirds of the country who aren’t committed Democrats. Oh, the horror….

“Daniels is boring” — if you thought this speech was boring, you’re either stupid, weren’t paying attention, or most likely, are a knee-jerk anti-Daniels partisan for some strange reason.

He was on point, accurate, articulated conservative concerns in non-partisan terms, and even threw in a couple jokes. SOTU responses are incredibly tough and if you’re going to try to do it in an empty room, stick to your strengths, like Ryan did last year and Daniels did this year. I’m very pleased with how it went.

LukeinNE on January 24, 2012 at 10:54 PM

I left you a message in the Nesmax Headlines article..:)

Dire Straits on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Thanks Dire, got it. : )

Bmore on January 24, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Claims not…but whoever it is has lots of fun. ElenaKagan is his/her sister. Sockpuppets for sure, but good for HA Capitalism.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:49 PM

:)

Seven Percent Solution on January 24, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Obama has NO charisma. Anyone who claims the contrary needs to be checked out.

A charismatic and smart person doesn’t need a prompter to speak to kids, nor to adults, nor to anyone.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:50 PM

Obama can read anything and make it sound nice….
Daniels needs some serious teleprompter mentoring if he is going to go into the big leagues

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Exactly! I want substance not soaring rhetoric. I guess most of the Republicans here are just mad Daniels didn’t give them a thrill up their leg.

Roymunson on January 24, 2012 at 10:51 PM

No. I am upset that after about 2 minutes the typical low info voter who was watching switched the channel because it was so boring.

80% of people have no clue who Mitch Daniels is. They have no clue what Solyndra is. They have no clue about most things. They heard Obama talk about killing bin Laden and making billionaires pay more taxes. Then if by some miracle they stuck around for the rebuttal, they fell asleep.

You don’t win the battle of ideas with lackluster speakers like Daniels.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Whatever he has, it works for him. He can read the phone book and people in general will think it sounds great. We can pretend he can’t give a good speech or we can accept the fact he does and it’s one of his pluses on the campaign trail.

angryed on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

Telling people what they want to hear is not a “good speech”.

Cleombrotus on January 24, 2012 at 10:55 PM

I’m surprised by the negative reaction from some of you concerning Daniels. I thought the speech was excellent, even superb. He spoke in an empty room a bit nervously at first but he hit his stride about two minutes into it and outlined the best argument against Obama I have heard.

Great speech, in my humble opinion.

MaxMBJ on January 24, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Mitch Daniels delivered the State of Reality speech.

HauteGas on January 24, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Was it just my TV or did Obama looked jaundiced?

haner on January 24, 2012 at 10:54 PM

I thought it was my set. Yes, he looked yellow-ish.

Fallon on January 24, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Okay, but I still think Bishop should ask it out to play.

Bmore on January 24, 2012 at 10:52 PM

I stopped hitting girls as a little kid, when I discovered it didn’t actually make them like you. Introducing Ken to the magic of ObamaCare dental coverage just wouldn’t be sporting.

Bishop on January 24, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Obama can read anything and make it sound nice….

liberal4life on January 24, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Check out your brain and your ears, then. Tonight you’re drunk also, but not just from sockpuppetry.

Schadenfreude on January 24, 2012 at 10:56 PM

Comment pages: 1 17 18 19 20 21 22