Rep. Allen West: Yes, the president is the food stamp president

posted at 2:05 pm on January 23, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Why Newt Gingrich naming Barack Obama “the food stamp president” ever generated controversy is more than a little perplexing — and how race was ever brought into the issue is even more perplexing. As Gingrich has repeatedly pointed out, the food stamp rolls have dramatically increased under Obama’s tenure as president.

Strictly speaking, the term “food stamp president” doesn’t include a value judgment. A person could apply the label to the president without automatically meaning it is a negative fact that food stamp enrollment has increased under Obama’s watch. Increased enrollment could actually be an argument that the food stamp program is effective, that it’s flexible and responsive enough to meet the increased needs of out-of-work new enrollees during a down economy. In fact, The Nation’s Lizzy Ratner makes that argument here. If that’s true, then why wouldn’t Obama and other liberals embrace the moniker “food stamp president” as a compliment of sorts?

It’s for the Obama administration to make the case that that is true – not to reject the label as somehow slanderous when it’s not. But, as Ratner herself says, the Obama administration has, for some reason, been “unwilling or unable” to champion the food stamp program as an effective antidote to recession. (Perhaps because it’s not?)

Because, no matter how hard they try, they can’t make an airtight case that the food stamp program is working properly or that the increase in food stamp usage is a positive, various liberals — including Ratner, Rep. James Clyburn and the Rev. Al Sharpton — resort to crying “racism!”

In what has become a repeat role for him, Rep. Allen West this morning set the record straight on what is and is not racism, calling out the cowardice of those who would spin the truth for the sake of advancing a race-based narrative:

“What is really appalling and disgusting and despicable is that you have people such as, unfortunately, my colleague, Mr. Clyburn, and the charlatan Al Sharpton who all of a sudden now want to create a schism and try to hide away from the fact that the unemployment rate in the African-American community is 15.8 percent,” the freshman congressman said in an interview Monday on The Washington Times-affiliated “America’s Morning News” radio program.

“This has nothing to do with race,” Mr. West said. “This is about them trying to spin it. But this president is failing all Americans.”

Mr. West, a former lieutenant colonel in the U.S. Army who served in Iraq, also appeared Monday morning on “Fox and Friends” to defendMr. Gingrich.

“There is no ‘race code.’ It’s a fact. Since President Obama has been in the Oval Office, you’ve seen a 41 percent increase in food-stamp recipients in the United States of America. We have a president that is making more Americans victims than victors,” he said.

Right on, Mr. West.

(For more, here’s a long-ago response from me to the first stirrings of the illogical suggestion that food stamp reformers are somehow motivated by racism.)


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Call them out

apocalypse on January 23, 2012 at 3:04 PM

The shame is that we have to pick up Bwahney Fwank’s pension. By the way, how is his home business going?

kingsjester on January 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Bwaa haaa haaaa!

KJ, you are the best.

portlandon on January 23, 2012 at 3:05 PM

God, I love Allen West.

lonestar1 on January 23, 2012 at 3:06 PM

i really appreciate allen west speaking out against fake “racism.” we need him. he is very valuable. we need more people to speak out against these fake claims of so-called racism. (last night i went into a huge rant on my blog about racism…)

anyway. newt’s “food stamp president” phrase had absolutely nothing to do with race whatsoever. the people who criticized newt, THEY were the ones who brought race into the discussion. whoever brings race into a discussion that has nothing to do with race, THEY are the racist. lefties do it all the time, they make everything about race, which means a lot of times, they are brining up race when the topic isn’t about race. the ironic thing is they point at others and call THEM racist. wow.

Sachiko on January 23, 2012 at 3:08 PM

Newt/West 2012

Mmmm Mmmmm Mmmmm

angryed on January 23, 2012 at 3:12 PM

The Bible says all nations are of one blood, we are all the same, so their concept of “race” has no basis in Scripture.
 
apocalypse on January 23, 2012 at 3:03 PM

 
This is the same group of people whose understanding of charity is based on a murderer’s defensive quip to God.
 
I doubt “basis in Scripture” keeps them up at night.

rogerb on January 23, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Speaking of dog whistles….

KeninCT on January 23, 2012 at 2:50 PM

liberal4life on January 23, 2012 at 2:10 PM

sesquipedalian on January 23, 2012 at 2:41 PM

angryed on January 23, 2012 at 3:17 PM

Seriously, calling him the Food Stamp Prezuhdunce is one of the rare nicer things we can say about His Benevolence.

stukinIL4now on January 23, 2012 at 3:20 PM

I can’t wait till Mr. West feels like he has the longevity to try a run for a higher office himself. Maybe we could get a ticket like Palin/West!

SgtRed on January 23, 2012 at 3:23 PM

The shame is that we have to pick up Bwahney Fwank’s pension. By the way, how is his home business going?

kingsjester on January 23, 2012 at 2:53 PM

Barney Frank didn’t get kicked out of his government job. This crackpot did. Allen West – all talk…

KeninCT on January 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM

WOW

The increase in people on food stamps since 2008 is huge:

http://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/15SNAPpartPP.htm

The numbers have a relationship to the unemployment situation.

And the cost of the program HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/SNAPsummary.htm

There are no more ganular reports than these so far, but I will keep digging.

dogsoldier on January 23, 2012 at 3:43 PM

The numbers have a relationship to the unemployment situation.

Yeah, but the unemployment numbers are coming down ‘cuz, you know, the economy is doing better or something. So I’m certain food stamp participation rates MUST be dropping at the same rate because Obama created (or saved) all those great jobs for us.

CJ on January 23, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Welfare state destroys America.

Barney Frank didn’t get kicked out of his government job. This crackpot did. Allen West – all talk…

KeninCT on January 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM

You fight with Barney. We fight with West.

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2012 at 4:01 PM

BOOYAH!!

abobo on January 23, 2012 at 4:02 PM

“From Diapers to Depends” –Obama 2012 and the SOTU.

Schadenfreude on January 23, 2012 at 4:02 PM

Barney Frank didn’t get kicked out of his government job.

KeninCT on January 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM

But probably should have.

Scrappy on January 23, 2012 at 4:06 PM

I’d prefer West as Sec. of Defense. If he is chosen as VP, the libtard Media will say that the Republicans are raaaaacist for selecting a black man in order to try and trick voters into thinking that the Republican Party isn’t raaaaaaacist.

Decoski on January 23, 2012 at 4:10 PM

There is a word used to describe folks like in the black community…

liberal4life on January 23, 2012 at 2:10 PM

You don’t say?

So what’s the “word” exactly?

Bishop on January 23, 2012 at 2:14 PM

Ah but don’t you see? Congressman West just doesn’t know his place and fails to recognize the inferiority of black people and therefore fails to see why black people NEED liberal Democrats to give them special treatment and entitlements and call it equality…. a premise that is racist to the core but liberals are masters at projecting their racism.


A VOTERS’ GUIDE TO REPUBLICANS

Yakko77 on January 23, 2012 at 4:14 PM

You know trying to address this issue in this thread is just daunting to simply think about simply because there is so much misinformation spread about food stamps that it will take a large amount of time to address.

However as far as this food stamp comment, Obama is no more a food stamp president than Bush. This idea that simply there was an increase in recipients is based off the idea that for Obama to be successful that there should only be a decrease. However unfortunately given the economic collapse of 2008, anyone expecting this to happen is a bit deluded. The increase in recipients started back into 2008 before Obama was in office. However, given the economic collapse, based on year to year data, Obama has seen an increase of 14.2 million added to the rolls while under bush that number was 14.7. However, then when you factor in month over month data, the latest figures show that there is a downward trend from that 14.2 million with a decrease of 43,528 back in October (http://www.11alive.com/news/article/223128/40/FACT-CHECK-Gingrichs-food-stamp-claim). So in short, you’re more likely to find the reason for the increase to be the economy not any particular president. This increase started under Bush and simply continued under Obama

Also, I love the supposed “speaking truth to power” that is being embraced here by Allen West and conservatives fighting against this perception of false accusations of race-baiting and racism. However, this is was not made a race issue by the evil liberals but by Gingrich himself.

“I will go to the NAACP convention, and tell the African-American community why they should demand paychecks instead of food stamps.”

At this point, Gingrich made the narrative of food stamps being strictly a Black American problem, not an American problem and therefore made it strictly a race issue. Blacks are singled out because the Republican’s whole narrative without explicitly saying it is that Blacks are all lazy and welfare mooches. This is the point of the whole reagan-era welfare queen meme that conservatives love to repeat. Don’t get upset if people call a spade a spade. Lets put something in perspective here. While blacks enrollment in Food stamps alone is high relative to population size (22% recipients, 12% of the population) which is double their population, this translates to a population of 10 million blacks on food stamps. However the amount of whites on food stamps surpasses that on raw numbers however it does not match their population size. However on the other side of the token this means that at least 3/4 of the black population are not on food stamps yet from the rhetoric you would figure most or even almost most were just lazy welfare leeches.

You know, as a black voter, I can sympathize with republicans to some extent on financial issues. However their stances on social issues make it nearly impossible to throw my lot in with most republican candidates due to their populist rhetoric such as this that is either half right or completely inaccurate. It’s a hard choice to make…at least with any dignity or without inducing vomiting. As someone who has never taken welfare or know any black friends and family who have been on welfare its very annoying to have this narrative pushed that I or people I associate with prefer food stamps to pay checks. It’s also hard to take seriously black conservatives who push this narrative without any critical examination of the facts. It makes them seem like tools…

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Barney Frank didn’t get kicked out of his government job. This crackpot did. Allen West – all talk…

KeninCT on January 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM

And the reason he got kicked out was in the act of saving his troops from an ambush. He should’ve gotten a medal for what he did in Iraq.
I’d march to hell with a can of gas strapped to my back with Allen West.

Yakko77 on January 23, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Barney Frank didn’t get kicked out of his government job. This crackpot did. Allen West – all talk…

KeninCT on January 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Barney Frank retired, after being in government since the 1970′s btw, maybe there was a serious concern that he would NOT rewin his seat; besides, there was a Gerrymandering (Extreme Redistricting, for those of you in Red States) in MA, and old Barney drew the short straw.

As for Rep. West, for whatever you feel about his Interviewing & Interrogation techniques (and considering the situation, IMHO fully justified) IIRC, wasn’t he cleared of any charges by fellow officers and retired with a Honorable Discharge? If so he wasn’t kicked out?

Disagree with him on facts: but don’t be surprised if you’re outnumbered by those of us that agree with him 100%.

BlaxPac on January 23, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Well, er, Col. West isn’t a real Black man. He’s, er, what we call, um, a sellout. He doesn’t, uh, know the first thing about living a Black man’s life, struggling in the ghetto, kickin’ it to, er, pass the time.

(I can hear the mentality from the left now.)

madmonkphotog on January 23, 2012 at 4:24 PM

While blacks enrollment in Food stamps alone is high relative to population size (22% recipients, 12% of the population) which is double their population, this translates to a population
 
However on the other side of the token this means that at least 3/4 of the black population are not on food stamps
 
Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:16 PM

 
This-means-that is always fun. Or we can use real, actual numbers:
 

“Estimating the Risk of Food Stamp Use and Impoverishment During Childhood,” is published in the current issue of the Archives of Pediatrics & Adolescent Medicine.
 
- 90 percent of black children will be in a household that uses food stamps. This compares to 37 percent of white children.
 
http://news.wustl.edu/news/Pages/15000.aspx

 
Are you suggesting that 90% of black children are born to 25% of the black population?
 

rogerb on January 23, 2012 at 4:31 PM

You know, as a black voter, I can sympathize with republicans to some extent on financial issues. However their stances on social issues make it nearly impossible to throw my lot in with most republican candidates due to their populist rhetoric such as this that is either half right or completely inaccurate. It’s a hard choice to make…at least with any dignity or without inducing vomiting. As someone who has never taken welfare or know any black friends and family who have been on welfare its very annoying to have this narrative pushed that I or people I associate with prefer food stamps to pay checks. It’s also hard to take seriously black conservatives who push this narrative without any critical examination of the facts. It makes them seem like tools…

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Actually, you could have saved yourself the effort.

When you led off with “black voter” instead of “voter”, we knew exactly where you were going.

Your skin color is what determines your vote. That’s all it is. You don’t care about financial issues, you don’t care about welfare, you just care about your skin color.

And you make your choices in life based solely on your skin color and the skin color of others.

You are a racist. And no matter how much you try to rationalize and spin, you remain a racist.

When you want to discuss the issues intelligently instead of screaming that Allan West is a race traitor, then you are welcome.

But as long as you use your skin color to avoid thinking, you are nothing but a pathetic joke.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

There is a word used to describe folks like in the black community…

liberal4life on January 23, 2012 at 2:10 PM

libturdordie will be contacting you shortly about your sentence structure!
How many points do I get for answering “liberal?” to your question?
(I really need to show you to people!)

KOOLAID2 on January 23, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Strictly speaking, the term “food stamp president” doesn’t include a value judgment. A person could apply the label to the president without automatically meaning it is a negative fact that food stamp enrollment has increased under Obama’s watch. Increased enrollment could actually be an argument that the food stamp program is effective, that it’s flexible and responsive enough to meet the increased needs of out-of-work new enrollees during a down economy. In fact, The Nation’s Lizzy Ratner makes that argument here. If that’s true, then why wouldn’t Obama and other liberals embrace the moniker “food stamp president” as a compliment of sorts?

It’s for the Obama administration to make the case that that is true – not to reject the label as somehow slanderous when it’s not. But, as Ratner herself says, the Obama administration has, for some reason, been “unwilling or unable” to champion the food stamp program as an effective antidote to recession. (Perhaps because it’s not?)

Because, no matter how hard they try, they can’t make an airtight case that the food stamp program is working properly or that the increase in food stamp usage is a positive, various liberals — including Ratner, Rep. James Clyburn and the Rev. Al Sharpton — resort to crying “racism!”

This is an inane argument. The idea behind food stamps and its success based on its intention isn’t gauged by how many are on food stamps but whether it provide and effective safety net for those who need it. Liberal and Republicans alike do no want to increase food stamp usage because its a sign of an unhealthy economy (yes I know someone is going to cynically laugh at liberals not wanting to increase food stamp dependency ) The source of contention here is that republicans rather not have the safety guard there if someone needs it while democrats do. NO ONE wants food stamp usage to increase. That isn’t the purpose of the program.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:40 PM

I’m certain Nancy Pelosi thinks food stamps creates jobs.

Wagthatdog on January 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM

And let’s point out another fine example of how racists like Realclearblue think.

At this point, Gingrich made the narrative of food stamps being strictly a Black American problem, not an American problem and therefore made it strictly a race issue. Blacks are singled out because the Republican’s whole narrative without explicitly saying it is that Blacks are all lazy and welfare mooches. This is the point of the whole reagan-era welfare queen meme that conservatives love to repeat.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:16 PM

Again, we see the point. Bigots and racists like Realclearblue do not need facts or even actual statements. They have their irrational prejudices and hatred toward Republicans, and they can twist any situation to reflect those already-established prejudices and hatreds.

Realclearblue is a racist and a bigot. Realclearblue has already stated that it votes solely based on skin color, and doesn’t care about any other issues.

So why do we need to pander to it? Indeed, why would ANY party want to pander to racist bigots like Realclearblue who are demanding that government privilege them based on their skin color, rather than on the content of their character?

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Here is why Newt was labelled a racist for his comments:

… he (Gingrich) said he would go to the NAACP convention and explain “why the African-American community should demand paychecks and not be satisfied with food stamps.”

First, Gingrich isn’t just saying that getting a paycheck is better than getting food stamps. No, he is specifically saying that he needs to go tell black people that fact.

Second, … Gingrich is not saying, as a generic notion, that citizens of the US should expect policies that produce jobs rather than simply relying on social policies to help them out. No, he wants to evangelize blacks on this subject.

(The blockquotes all come from the link.)

imasoulman on January 23, 2012 at 4:42 PM

useful idiot.

sesquipedalian on January 23, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Yeah, you are.

St Gaudens on January 23, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Col. West’s own ‘code of honor’ got him kicked out of the military. I doubt it’s an issue.

KeninCT on January 23, 2012 at 2:41 PM

That’s twice now you’ve lied about that. LtCol Allen West was honorably retired from the United States Army, what you say is a lie.

cigarcamel on January 23, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Actually, you could have saved yourself the effort.

When you led off with “black voter” instead of “voter”, we knew exactly where you were going.

Your skin color is what determines your vote. That’s all it is. You don’t care about financial issues, you don’t care about welfare, you just care about your skin color.

And you make your choices in life based solely on your skin color and the skin color of others.

You are a racist. And no matter how much you try to rationalize and spin, you remain a racist.

When you want to discuss the issues intelligently instead of screaming that Allan West is a race traitor, then you are welcome.

But as long as you use your skin color to avoid thinking, you are nothing but a pathetic joke.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Given the history of this country and biases that exist against black people, I would be foolish not to take into consideration how politicians and how politics play out as it relates to race and perceptions of races. Its suicidal. When you’re a minority, not speaking strictly racial minority, you need to take special consideration of who you give your support to because unfortunately you do not have the same political clout as the majority of the population. I don’t desire to be a victim of majority tyranny. So yes, I’m not going to pretend I’m not black and yes I’m not going to pretend that in certain aspects of politics race is used as a bludgeoning tool by the same ilk and stock of Gingrich like republicans. Unfortunately this idea of a color blind utopia has not been achieved and unfortunately doubt it ever will.

So as a Black voter, I take it into consideration when party wants to demonize my race as lazy welfare leeches and I’m not naive enough to pretend that if those attitudes continue unabated, that it will lead to a possible incremental encroachment on my rights in the future. I’m not a fool in that regard.

If you think that makes me a racist, it doesn’t matter one way or another. Most black american’s are aware of how they’re viewed in this society and don’t have their heads in the sand. Please go back to call blacks welfare leeches.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:47 PM

I’d march to hell with a can of gas strapped to my back with Allen West.

Yakko77 on January 23, 2012 at 4:18 PM

That sounds great. I’ll look for coverage of it on Fox.

KeninCT on January 23, 2012 at 4:50 PM

NO ONE wants food stamp usage to increase. That isn’t the purpose of the program.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:40 PM

That’s a flat-out lie.

Indeed, the Barack Obama Party is openly promoting more people on food stamps as a job-creating mechanism.

And finally:

This is an inane argument. The idea behind food stamps and its success based on its intention isn’t gauged by how many are on food stamps but whether it provide and effective safety net for those who need it.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Yes, like those poor starving millionaires.

So far, your failure has been pretty epic, Realclearblue. Want to try making a bigger fool out of yourself, racist bigot?

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 4:51 PM

rogerb on January 23, 2012 at 4:31 PM

These numbers are stating an estimated risk, not actual numbers. Also yes they are incompatible to what the actual numbers are.
22% of food stamp recipients are black
44.2 people receive welfare in the united states
http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2011/05/03/about-1-in-7-americans-receive-food-stamps/

22% of 44.2 is actually 9.7 million estimate.
There are 38,930,000 in the US which works out to about 24.2% of the black population receiving food stamps. Don’t know what to tell you about your study, except its overblown. Sorry.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Given the history of this country and biases that exist against black people, I would be foolish not to take into consideration how politicians and how politics play out as it relates to race and perceptions of races.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Actually, why not just be honest and state that you have no intention of being judged by your character instead of by your skin color?

I mean, seriously. You think we don’t recognize what’s going on here? As it stands, you have an instant out for everything that goes wrong in your life — blame whitey.

And the party choice is simple. You have the Republicans, who judge you by your character and your results, and you have the Obama Party, which judges you solely based on your skin color. With the Republicans, you have the potential to make right or wrong decisions and accept the consequences; with the Obama Party, because of your skin color, you cannot make a wrong decision and the government is always expected to pay your bills, clean up your mess, and lower standards for you.

We understand that you don’t want to give that up. But seriously, just be honest about it and say that the Obama Party’s belief in preferential treatment based on skin color is why you vote for them.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Yes, like those poor starving millionaires.

So far, your failure has been pretty epic, Realclearblue. Want to try making a bigger fool out of yourself, racist bigot?

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Ok so they qualify. How many actually abuse the system? If they are abusing the system how is the fault of poor blacks who are receiving food stamps and therefore shouldn’t the demagoguery be directed towards millionaire abusing a system meant for the poor? Don’t see your point here exactly. Doesn’t change the fact that welfare isn’t INTENDED to be successful based on how many are on it. Its a social safety net. In addition, given this mania of everything and anything “creates/destroys” jobs, I’m not surprised. However this more reeks of a weak defense for the food stamp program than a affirmation that the Obama administration wants more people on food stamps.

I don’t feel “destroyed” and failing here exactly…

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Here is the breakdown that I have found as of Fiscal year 2010 for the breakdown on food stamps by race in the United States.

35% of participants are White; 22% are African-American, not Hispanic; 10% are Hispanic; 2% are Asian, 4% are Native American, and 19% are of unknown race or ethnicity

Can someone please tell me how it is racist then to call the POTUS the foodstamp president???

Freed0m28 on January 23, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Representative Alan West has “national candidate” written all over him.
We can only hope for it.

Art on January 23, 2012 at 5:07 PM

Ok so they qualify. How many actually abuse the system? If they are abusing the system how is the fault of poor blacks who are receiving food stamps and therefore shouldn’t the demagoguery be directed towards millionaire abusing a system meant for the poor?

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Ah, but you see, Realclearblue, Obama Party members like yourself have no problem whatsoever with millionaires abusing a system meant for the poor; indeed, you and your Obama Party say that such demagoguery is racist.

Meanwhile, if liberals like yourself don’t want people on food stamps, why are you spending so much money to promote them to people who don’t need them, as I pointed out?

The answer is very straightforward. Once you are hooked on government largesse, you can’t get off it. Moreover, you must do as the government paying you suggests lest you be punished.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 5:08 PM

Don’t know what to tell you about your study, except its overblown. Sorry.
 
Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:57 PM

 
Assuming you read it, I’m not sure that you understood it.
 
90% of all black children will be on food stamps before they turn 20 years old.
 
Sorry. And congratulations. Things seem to be working out great with those people you keep trusting.

rogerb on January 23, 2012 at 5:10 PM

West and Rubio in the white house and the dems would mark their panties…

ARIZONAVETERAN on January 23, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Actually, why not just be honest and state that you have no intention of being judged by your character instead of by your skin color?

I mean, seriously. You think we don’t recognize what’s going on here? As it stands, you have an instant out for everything that goes wrong in your life — blame whitey.

And the party choice is simple. You have the Republicans, who judge you by your character and your results, and you have the Obama Party, which judges you solely based on your skin color. With the Republicans, you have the potential to make right or wrong decisions and accept the consequences; with the Obama Party, because of your skin color, you cannot make a wrong decision and the government is always expected to pay your bills, clean up your mess, and lower standards for you.

We understand that you don’t want to give that up. But seriously, just be honest about it and say that the Obama Party’s belief in preferential treatment based on skin color is why you vote for them.

Look, I’ll stop the snark for minute to give you a sincere answer. A person can come to me with a solution to 90% of the problems however if the 10% of his ideas are to my detriment, and not just to my detriment, they have the possibility to actually affect my livelihood (and I view the rhetoric spouted by people like Gingrich simply a incremental step in possible more extreme positions in the future) then I can’t get behind them. Sorry. Its too big of a hurdle. If it wasn’t for the 10% they would have me on board. I agree with the need to start reducing government in certain aspects and the need to tighten our belt but how can I cast a vote for someone who thinks me and my family are leeches to society. Its a demeaning thought. I can’t do it. I understand why people like Gingrich do it because it energizes their base that feel like the monster of political correction is on their backs everywhere they turn. I can actually sympathize with them to some degree (try sitting through a sociology class in college without feeling nauseous at the proselytizing that occurs) however on this particular issue Gingrich and conservatives are in the wrong in my opinion.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:13 PM

If it wasn’t for the 10% they would have me on board.
 
Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:13 PM

 
rogerb, election day, voting booth:
 
- Are those issues caused by overbearing or inadequate regulations?
 
- How does he feel about taxes?
 
- Does he believe in responsible spending along with cuts, or just increases?
 
- Does he use class warfare rhetoric? Which group does he assume I’m in?
 
- Is the teachers’ union more important to him than the students?
 
- What are his views on forcing “green” energy onto us?
 
- Does he believe people should be allowed to spend their money as they see fit, even though it might pose financial difficulties for them in the long run, and possibly even lead to bankruptcy?
 
- Does he believe any entity is “too big to fail”?
 
- Does he accept the bounds of the War Powers Act?
 
- Will he bomb other nations and claim it’s “not hostilities”?
 
- Does he accept that Congress is comprised of individuals placed in their position by voters and it’s his responsibility to be bound by their checks on the Executive’s powers?
 
- Will he…”
 
Realclearblue, election day, voting booth:
 
- Is he a black democrat?
 
- If not, is he a democrat?
 
(God bless America.)

rogerb on January 23, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Actually, why not just be honest and state that you have no intention of being judged by your character instead of by your skin color?

I mean, seriously. You think we don’t recognize what’s going on here? As it stands, you have an instant out for everything that goes wrong in your life — blame whitey.

And the party choice is simple. You have the Republicans, who judge you by your character and your results, and you have the Obama Party, which judges you solely based on your skin color. With the Republicans, you have the potential to make right or wrong decisions and accept the consequences; with the Obama Party, because of your skin color, you cannot make a wrong decision and the government is always expected to pay your bills, clean up your mess, and lower standards for you.

We understand that you don’t want to give that up. But seriously, just be honest about it and say that the Obama Party’s belief in preferential treatment based on skin color is why you vote for them.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Except Republicans, despite their self-delusion in thinking so, and at least people like Gingrich don’t view blacks based solely on their individual accomplishments. Blacks in their view stick in two category 1) They champion conservative ideals and therefore they are worthy of respect 2) they’re welfare loving, insidious democrat drones stuck on the plantation. This merit based objectivity purported by people like you seems to be disconnected to the way you speak of outside groups. Individualism ceases to exist outside of conservative ideology. Blacks are welfare leeches and all Muslims are terrorists, if just going by how people talk on this site. If you’re not part of the in group you’re an enemy and therefore start to fall into one dimensional characterizations.

You don’t even know anything about me and this is what you think I am

with the Obama Party, because of your skin color, you cannot make a wrong decision and the government is always expected to pay your bills, clean up your mess, and lower standards for you.

I don’t understand paying bills and having standards according to you.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:28 PM

If you’re not part of the in group you’re an enemy and therefore start to fall into one dimensional characterizations.
 
Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:28 PM

 
Earlier in same post:
 

Except Republicans… don’t view blacks based solely on their individual accomplishments.
 
Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:28 PM

 
Dandy, eh?

rogerb on January 23, 2012 at 5:31 PM

Gotta go. Have fun.

rogerb on January 23, 2012 at 5:32 PM

I agree with the need to start reducing government in certain aspects and the need to tighten our belt but how can I cast a vote for someone who thinks me and my family are leeches to society.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:13 PM

So again, what you’re saying is that you don’t care about anything other than your skin color and to how it’s pandered.

And as we see with Rangel, you don’t care if someone defrauds welfare, cheats on their taxes, and openly uses government to enrich themselves if they are of the correct skin color.

Even more hilariously, you are telling lie after lie, smear after smear about conservatives, and then you have the gall to whine about how your family is being portrayed.

You are a racist liar and a bigot. You are an utter disgusting failure, a pathetic tool who demands preferential treatment based on his skin color and dares to call other black people who criticize them an Uncle Tom.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Newt/West 2012

Mmmm Mmmmm Mmmmm

angryed on January 23, 2012 at 3:12 PM

This I could support.

Let the media just try to attack this combo. I would by stock in Orville Redenbacher.

D-fusit on January 23, 2012 at 5:34 PM

Except Republicans, despite their self-delusion in thinking so, and at least people like Gingrich don’t view blacks based solely on their individual accomplishments. Blacks in their view stick in two category 1) They champion conservative ideals and therefore they are worthy of respect 2) they’re welfare loving, insidious democrat drones stuck on the plantation.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Or in other words, they judge them by their espoused actions and words, rather than saying they should be a certain way based on their skin color.

Meanwhile, Barack Obama supporters like yourself say that black people should think and act a specific way based on their skin color and insist that anyone who doesn’t is a race traitor and Uncle Tom.

That’s what makes you funny, Realclearblue. You ATTACK Republicans for judging black people on their ideas and actions instead of their skin color, and you attack black people whose actions and ideas don’t conform to what you think they should be based on their skin color.

Dr. King allegedly supported the first. But you and your fellow Obama Party members seem adamant that black people should hold specific opinions and ideas based on skin color instead.

I don’t understand paying bills and having standards according to you.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:28 PM

Oh, not at all. You think white people should pay bills and have standards, of course. You just don’t think you should.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 5:38 PM

Forget Rubio. West is the man!

jazzuscounty on January 23, 2012 at 5:39 PM

So again, what you’re saying is that you don’t care about anything other than your skin color and to how it’s pandered.

And as we see with Rangel, you don’t care if someone defrauds welfare, cheats on their taxes, and openly uses government to enrich themselves if they are of the correct skin color.

Even more hilariously, you are telling lie after lie, smear after smear about conservatives, and then you have the gall to whine about how your family is being portrayed.

You are a racist liar and a bigot. You are an utter disgusting failure, a pathetic tool who demands preferential treatment based on his skin color and dares to call other black people who criticize them an Uncle Tom.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Wow where do you get these ideas from. Yes I support corruption by Charlie Rangle. I’m sure I said that somewhere in one of my posts. I just have to find it. I guess it needs to be said but guess what I’m against corruption in politics and think it needs to be met with severe punishment because someone being paid to serve tax payers and abusing that position is something I find
unconscionable. However since hes black… I TOTALLY THINK ITS OK! I don’t know how you gathered this information from what I said. I can only assume you’re working on a preconceived narrative that all blacks support black politicians no matter what. Alright let me add more nuance to my position. I don’t particularly care to vote for someone who demonizes my whole race as welfare leeches, however, I also wouldn’t vote or support someone who abuses their position simply because they’re black. I guess I needed to make that distinction for some reason.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM

So as a Black voter,(blahblahblah)…If you think that makes me a racist, it doesn’t matter one way or another. Most black american’s are aware of how they’re viewed in this society and don’t have their heads in the sand. Please go back to call blacks welfare leeches.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:47 PM

I am glad you recognize that you are a racist. Blacks are, far and away, the most racist people on the face of the earth. You even classify yourselves “black” this and “black” that. (Like you, “black voter.”) The militant self-styled intellectual elites, like you, are the worst. You do nothing to improve the lot of your people. My grandparents, who were immigrants, helped others from their country when they came over. They helped them get a job, get an education, and they helped them become part of America. Sadly, you want a “black” America dominated by a Democratic party who panders to your “blackness,” but with your heads in the sand you cannot see that this is the very strategy that has allowed them to control your votes for decades.

Over the past few decades, I have seen beautiful neighborhoods in Chicago, New York, Detroit and several other major cities fall apart into slums after being taken over by “black” residents. Can you name me just one city that has prospered after the whites left and the blacks took over? Okay, then, just name one neighborhood. Okay, how about just one street in one city? (Sounds of crickets chirping.) And don’t even bother to try replying with the standard Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson blather…the fact is, you and those like you abhor taking responsibility for your race.

southsidetom on January 23, 2012 at 5:44 PM

Anyone who questions West’s character or integrity should realize what he did in Iraq to protect his men Is one of the reasons we love him.

lonestar1 on January 23, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Wow where do you get these ideas from. Yes I support corruption by Charlie Rangle. I’m sure I said that somewhere in one of my posts. I just have to find it. I guess it needs to be said but guess what I’m against corruption in politics and think it needs to be met with severe punishment because someone being paid to serve tax payers and abusing that position is something I find
unconscionable. However since hes black… I TOTALLY THINK ITS OK! I don’t know how you gathered this information from what I said. I can only assume you’re working on a preconceived narrative that all blacks support black politicians no matter what. Alright let me add more nuance to my position. I don’t particularly care to vote for someone who demonizes my whole race as welfare leeches, however, I also wouldn’t vote or support someone who abuses their position simply because they’re black. I guess I needed to make that distinction for some reason.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM

And amazingly enough, despite all that whining, you still didn’t make the distinction.

Nowhere in your rant did you say that what Rangel did was wrong. Instead, you blabbered and whined and cried about Republicans all being racist for criticizing him.

You are helpless and pathetic. And people recognize this. They know that, for all your grandiose blathering, you’re still just a racist.

Black skin is the be-all and end-all to you. You WANT government discrimination. You SUPPORT racists and racist politicians. You OPPOSE people being judged based on the content of their character and want it to be done based on the color of their skin.

You are a bigot and a racist.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 6:00 PM

I am glad you recognize that you are a racist. Blacks are, far and away, the most racist people on the face of the earth. You even classify yourselves “black” this and “black” that. (Like you, “black voter.”) The militant self-styled intellectual elites, like you, are the worst. You do nothing to improve the lot of your people. My grandparents, who were immigrants, helped others from their country when they came over. They helped them get a job, get an education, and they helped them become part of America. Sadly, you want a “black” America dominated by a Democratic party who panders to your “blackness,” but with your heads in the sand you cannot see that this is the very strategy that has allowed them to control your votes for decades.

Over the past few decades, I have seen beautiful neighborhoods in Chicago, New York, Detroit and several other major cities fall apart into slums after being taken over by “black” residents. Can you name me just one city that has prospered after the whites left and the blacks took over? Okay, then, just name one neighborhood. Okay, how about just one street in one city? (Sounds of crickets chirping.) And don’t even bother to try replying with the standard Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson blather…the fact is, you and those like you abhor taking responsibility for your race.

Wow. This post is a goldmine. I’m not going to act shocked though. Its indicative of what I’m saying and how you guys view blacks and then a month later there is a post about why blacks are not voting republican.

Alright as far as your last paragraph. I can point you to several communities in Atlanta that are doing well with a majority black population. Guess what they’re majority democrat too.

Cascade Heights in Atlanta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascade_Heights
Baldwin Hills in CA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_Hills,_Los_Angeles

Surburbs of Atlanta are notorious for being a place of wealth with a majority of black population. In addition there are surburbs in Washington DC with a majority black population doing pretty well.

Also, I really don’t need to justify myself to you but again I’ve done plenty of people in my community and thats just not Black people from charity work to helping organize events in my particularly neighborhood and in other less fortunate communities.

I’ll say this, if the democratic party disappeared tomorrow, people like you would give blacks pause before considering becoming Republicans. I think this quote by Jackie Robinson a former Republican is apt to describing the situation.

Writing on page 340 of the autobiography, “I Never Had It Made”, Robinson went so far as to insist that he be called an independent, “since I’ve never identified myself with one party or another in politics.” In 1968 he campaigned for Hubert Humphrey.

“I was not as sold on the Republican party as I was on the governor,” Robinson wrote of Rockefeller. “Every chance I got, while I was campaigning, I said plainly what I thought of the right-wing Republicans and the harm they were doing. I felt the GOP was a minority party in term of numbers of registered voters and could not win unless they updated their social philosophy and sponsored candidates and principles to attract the young, the black, and the independent voter. I said this often from public, and frequently Republican, platforms. By and large Republicans had ignored blacks and sometimes handpicked a few servile leaders in the black community to be their token “niggers.” How would I sound trying to go all out to sell Republicans to black people? They’re not buying. They know better.”

“I admit freely that I think, live, and breathe black first and foremost. That is one of the reasons I was so committed to the governor and so opposed to Senator Barry Goldwater. Early in 1964 I wrote a Speaking Out piece for The Saturday Evening Post. A Barry Goldwater victory would insure that the GOP would be completely the white man’s party. What happened at San Francisco when Senator Goldwater became the Republican standard-bearer confirmed my prediction.”

“I wasn’t altogether caught of guard by the victory of the reactionary forces in the Republican party, but I was appalled by the tactics they used to stifle their liberal opposition,” Robinson wrote of that 1964 convention. “I was a special delegate to the convention through an arrangement made by the Rockefeller office. That convention was one of the most unforgettable and frightening experiences of my life. The hatred I saw was unique to me because it was hatred directed against a white man. It embodied a revulsion for all he stood for, including his enlightened attitude toward black people.”

Robinson was simply witnessing the beginning of the legacy of the Republican party of today and their pandering to racist southern democrats to win elections.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:06 PM

And amazingly enough, despite all that whining, you still didn’t make the distinction.

Nowhere in your rant did you say that what Rangel did was wrong. Instead, you blabbered and whined and cried about Republicans all being racist for criticizing him.

You are helpless and pathetic. And people recognize this. They know that, for all your grandiose blathering, you’re still just a racist.

Black skin is the be-all and end-all to you. You WANT government discrimination. You SUPPORT racists and racist politicians. You OPPOSE people being judged based on the content of their character and want it to be done based on the color of their skin.

You are a bigot and a racist.

Why do I need to actively speak out against Rangel, because we share the same skin color? He was wrong. Happy? Of course not. You have your idea of what I think already before I even say it lol. You mentioned him. I wasn’t defending him or even brought him up

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:09 PM

I am glad you recognize that you are a racist. Blacks are, far and away, the most racist people on the face of the earth. You even classify yourselves “black” this and “black” that. (Like you, “black voter.”) The militant self-styled intellectual elites, like you, are the worst. You do nothing to improve the lot of your people. My grandparents, who were immigrants, helped others from their country when they came over. They helped them get a job, get an education, and they helped them become part of America. Sadly, you want a “black” America dominated by a Democratic party who panders to your “blackness,” but with your heads in the sand you cannot see that this is the very strategy that has allowed them to control your votes for decades.

Over the past few decades, I have seen beautiful neighborhoods in Chicago, New York, Detroit and several other major cities fall apart into slums after being taken over by “black” residents. Can you name me just one city that has prospered after the whites left and the blacks took over? Okay, then, just name one neighborhood. Okay, how about just one street in one city? (Sounds of crickets chirping.) And don’t even bother to try replying with the standard Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson blather…the fact is, you and those like you abhor taking responsibility for your race.

Wow. This post is a goldmine. I’m not going to act shocked though. Its indicative of what I’m saying and how you guys view blacks and then a month later there is a post about why blacks are not voting republican.

Alright as far as your last paragraph. I can point you to several communities in Atlanta that are doing well with a majority black population. Guess what they’re majority democrat too.

Cascade Heights in Atlanta
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cascade_Heights
Baldwin Hills in CA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldwin_Hills,_Los_Angeles

Surburbs of Atlanta are notorious for being a place of wealth with a majority of black population. In addition there are surburbs in Washington DC with a majority black population doing pretty well.

Also, I really don’t need to justify myself to you but again I’ve done plenty of people in my community and thats just not Black people from charity work to helping organize events in my neighborhood and in other less fortunate communities.

I’ll say this, if the democratic party disappeared tomorrow, people like you would give blacks pause before considering becoming Republicans. I think reading Jackie Robinson’s thoughts on what he witness from the Goldwater convention would provide some insight overall as to why there is a racial division between political parties.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:13 PM

That sounds great. I’ll look for coverage of it on Fox.

KeninCT on January 23, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Be sure to have the DVR ready because it’ll be awesome!!!!

Yakko77 on January 23, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Black 12.85%, the percentage of the black population as of 2012. We know that all black people are not poor living beneath the poverty line but let’s pretend for the charge that Food Stamps is a racial insult to poor black people on food stamps.

For the most recent month with available data, October 2011, 46.2 million people were enrolled in the food stamp program, which is formally known the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). Since Mr. Obama took office, the percent increase in enrollment has been 44.5 percent.

The break down for who got Food Stamps by ethnicity.

The most recent Department of Agriculture report on the general characteristics of the SNAP program’s beneficiaries says that in the fiscal year that ended Sept. 30, 2010:

36% were white (non-Hispanic), 22% were African American (non-Hispanic) and 10% were Hispanic.

22% of 46.2 million = 10 million One Hundred Sixty Four Thousand.

Rounding up Black population in the U.S. from 12.85% to 13% of 310 Million people- U.S. population is 40,300,000. Estimating, it looks like 1 in every 4 Black person is on Food Stamps in this country.

Someone should check my math to make sure it’s not the racist kind SNARK.

Dr Evil on January 23, 2012 at 6:18 PM

He’s lucky that they let him quit. Shame that we have to pick up his pension.

KeninCT on January 23, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Hopefully, that’s what most of us will be saying in January, 2013

Cleombrotus on January 23, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Oh, this is hilarious.

Why do I need to actively speak out against Rangel, because we share the same skin color?

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Because you said that all white people are responsible for slavery and everything bad that has ever happened to black people.

Given the history of this country and biases that exist against black people, I would be foolish not to take into consideration how politicians and how politics play out as it relates to race and perceptions of races.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:47 PM

You’re being asked to follow your own rules. As is typical for a bigot, you won’t.

And here’s a great example.

Wow. This post is a goldmine. I’m not going to act shocked though. Its indicative of what I’m saying and how you guys view blacks and then a month later there is a post about why blacks are not voting republican.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Well, of course. You’re a bigot who hates white people and thinks all Republicans are racist. Do you really expect us to believe you’re capable of intelligently evaluating a situation or coming up with an answer that varies from your current prejudices?

We’re aware that bigots like yourself are irrational people who see racism everywhere. That’s also why we don’t care any more. You cannot be satisfied because you are an irrational, hateful racist who can always come up with one more reason why we should pander to you because of your skin color.

You don’t want to be judged based on the content of your character. You want us to be racist like you and make decisions based on your skin color.

Nope, sorry. Republicans and conservatives are better than that. You clearly are not. And it’s not because you are black that you are a racist; it is because you buy into Obama Party dogma that racism is good.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Dunno much about EBT cards but the percentage of Obama’s (PBUH) administration who have held a job in the private sector is 8%

The percentage of each past president’s cabinet who had worked in the private business sector prior to their appointment to the cabinet.
You know that the private business sector is a real-life business, not a government job. Here are the percentages.

T. Roosevelt……………….. 38%

Taft……………………………. 40%

Wilson ……………………… 52%

Harding……………………… 49%

Coolidge……………………. 48%

Hoover………………………. 42%

F. Roosevelt………………. 50%

Truman……………………… 50%

Eisenhower……………. …. 57%

Kennedy……………………. 30%

Johnson…………………….. 47%

Nixon………………………… 53%

Ford………………………….. 42%

Carter……………………….. 32%

Reagan……………………… 56%

GH Bush……………………. 51%

Clinton …………………….. 39%

GW Bush…………………… 55%

Obama………………… 8%

Cleombrotus on January 23, 2012 at 6:22 PM

I think reading Jackie Robinson’s thoughts on what he witness from the Goldwater convention would provide some insight overall as to why there is a racial division between political parties.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:13 PM

Barry Goldwater was the Republican nominee for President in 1964.

You are making judgments today based on what took place nearly fifty years ago.

Again, that is typical of a bigot and a racist. You see only what you want to see. You are so intellectually starved and lacking that the best you can do to justify your racist hatred is to quote something that is nearly half a century old.

Your desperation to avoid ever having to honestly evaluate Republicans and conservatives is appalling — to the point that you are screaming that all Republicans are racist based on someone’s recollection of an event five decades ago.

You are a sick, disgusting, hypocritical bigot. You demand to be treated as an individual, yet you are still screaming that we are all racists because we are white and conservative.

You just can’t take responsibility for anything, can you? You blame whitey for everything. Every problem is whitey’s fault. Everything that happens, whitey is to blame. You’re a helpless, indolent child, incapable of taking care of yourself, needing the government to feed, clothe, diaper, and sing you to sleep.

Is that the fault of your skin color? NO. It’s the fault of your own choices to be a government dependent.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 6:26 PM

Because you said that all white people are responsible for slavery and everything bad that has ever happened to black people.

and when did I say that..?

Wow you’re setting up strawmans left and right… Its like you exist in a different dimension with another me saying something I did not say in this one. This is futile…

There is a big gap between recognizing that there are indeed biases for blacks in society and we don’t live in a color blind society and saying all white people are responsible for slavery and every bad thing that happens to blacks. I don’t think that. However I’m not naive in thinking that some people don’t hold preconceived notions of blacks with Newt being included based on his past statements. When a person’s job application is thrown in the trash because they have a black sounding name (your name doesn’t signify merit, IF YOU’RE ONLY HIRING ON MERIT) for example this is not representative of a society based on objective judgement of a person character and achievements. The biases exists and they have shown to exist no matter how much people like to deny them.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Barry Goldwater was the Republican nominee for President in 1964.

You are making judgments today based on what took place nearly fifty years ago.

Again, that is typical of a bigot and a racist. You see only what you want to see. You are so intellectually starved and lacking that the best you can do to justify your racist hatred is to quote something that is nearly half a century old.

and people like Newt continue the same antagonistic stances towards blacks as they did 48 years ago. Its a 48 year old tradition that they cling to today.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:38 PM

white 79.96%, population as of 2012 let’s round it up to 80% and round down the population to 310,000,000 from 313,232,044 (July 2011 est.)

248,000,000 million White non Hispanic.

36% were white (non-Hispanic) on Food Stamps.

46.2 Americans are on Food Stamps.

36% of 46.2 million = 16,632,000 White Non Hispanic on Food Stamps out of 248,000,000 million.

231,368,000 White Non Hispanic NOT receiving Food Stamps.

Dr Evil on January 23, 2012 at 6:41 PM

The biases exists and they have shown to exist no matter how much people like to deny them.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Nothing wrong with biases.

Cleombrotus on January 23, 2012 at 6:42 PM

When a person’s job application is thrown in the trash because they have a black sounding name (your name doesn’t signify merit, IF YOU’RE ONLY HIRING ON MERIT) for example this is not representative of a society based on objective judgement of a person character and achievements. The biases exists and they have shown to exist no matter how much people like to deny them.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:34 PM

Here on the South Side we have a name for this kind of trash talk that racists like you blurt out. It’s called “hibbity jibbity.”
And you still did not answer my question so I will give you another shot at the basket: Can you name me just one city that has prospered after the whites left and the blacks took over? Okay, then, just name one neighborhood. Okay, how about just one street in one city?

southsidetom on January 23, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Looks like 1 in every 15 White Non Hispanic Americans are receiving Food Stamps. Given the unemployment rate and our flat GDP, it’s a wonder things aren’t worse than they are. Don’t get me wrong it’s not cheap for tax payers to pay for 47 Million people to be on Food Stamps .

Dr Evil on January 23, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Can you name me just one city that has prospered after the whites left and the blacks took over? Okay, then, just name one neighborhood. Okay, how about just one street in one city?

Cascade Heights. White flight occurred once black residents started to move in. However, it maintained its affluence with the black population.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:50 PM

Nothing wrong with biases.

Cleombrotus on January 23, 2012 at 6:42 PM

Thats fine if you believe that. However, I’m talking to the people who like to pretend only crazy people recognize them and are pointing them out.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:53 PM

When a person’s job application is thrown in the trash because they have a black sounding name (your name doesn’t signify merit, IF YOU’RE ONLY HIRING ON MERIT) for example this is not representative of a society based on objective judgement of a person character and achievements.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:34 PM

So now the little lying bigot and racist is saying that all black peoples’ job applications are thrown in the trash because they have a black-sounding name.

Of course, it’s never because they aren’t qualified. Any time a black person doesn’t get a job, it’s because of racism. Just ask Realclearblue. All black people are always qualified for everything and if they don’t get it, it’s because of racism.

You just can’t stop from making a fool of yourself, can you? You want employers to automatically assume that a person is qualified based on their skin color. You are a racist and a bigot.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 7:01 PM

and people like Newt continue the same antagonistic stances towards blacks as they did 48 years ago. Its a 48 year old tradition that they cling to today.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 6:38 PM

Actually, the only person who is citing events that happened fifty years ago as an excuse for their stances today is you.

But of course, you can’t acknowledge that. Instead, you have to blame whitey for your problems. Whitey is to blame for everything. Because whitey said something fifty years ago, that’s why you’re a racist and a bigot today.

Truly, you live in the past. You are a racist and bigot who is desperate to justify his irrational prejudices.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 7:04 PM

Congress in November approved a spending bill that projects $80.4 billion in food-stamp funds for more than 47 million people this year.

47 Million rounded up to 50 Million, and round down 313 Million to 300 Million U.S. population.

Approximately 1/6th of the U.S. population is on Food Stamps. The Food Stamp program is paid for with tax payer dollars.

Dr Evil on January 23, 2012 at 7:06 PM

Of course, it’s never because they aren’t qualified. Any time a black person doesn’t get a job, it’s because of racism. Just ask Realclearblue. All black people are always qualified for everything and if they don’t get it, it’s because of racism.

You just can’t stop from making a fool of yourself, can you? You want employers to automatically assume that a person is qualified based on their skin color. You are a racist and a bigot.

Multiple studies have been done that show when all things are equal blacks are less likely to get a callback, especially if they have a black sounding name. Just an anecdotal example, I have a friend name De’shawn who was applying for jobs. When he used his full name he found it frustrating that he wasn’t getting that many call backs as he thought he should relative to how many applications he put in. So what he started to do is just put his name down as Shawn. Needless to say he got a better response and I also enjoyed the stories of the surprise on the people’s face when he would come in and look nothing like what they expected a guy with a computer engineering degree from a relatively respectable university to look like. Now I’m not saying their responses were based on a racist hatred, as more blacks are underrepresented and STEM fields and he might of just ran into some shocked employers who rarely get black applicants.

The point is that its not always strictly merit based qualifications. I personally wish it was that way but there are people who make judgements on other factors, race included. So no its not every single case that the black person is underqualified and feel he needs to be hired. Personally I don’t want to be hired except by merit because its demeaning to be hired under any other circumstances. I rather be poor and broke then work from someone who doesn’t think I’m of the same worth of other employees.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 7:08 PM

I read that half of Americans on Food Stamps are under the age of 18 years old, and I for one don’t want children going hungry in this country.

Dr Evil on January 23, 2012 at 7:19 PM

Multiple studies have been done that show when all things are equal blacks are less likely to get a callback, especially if they have a black sounding name.

None that you will quote, of course. Instead, you just try an anecdote.

Just an anecdotal example, I have a friend name De’shawn who was applying for jobs. When he used his full name he found it frustrating that he wasn’t getting that many call backs as he thought he should relative to how many applications he put in. So what he started to do is just put his name down as Shawn. Needless to say he got a better response and I also enjoyed the stories of the surprise on the people’s face when he would come in and look nothing like what they expected a guy with a computer engineering degree from a relatively respectable university to look like.

Or at least that’s how he interpreted it, since he already thought all employers were racists who discriminated against him because of his “black name”.

What a surprise. He went looking for racism based on his belief that everyone was racist and found it.

Now I’m not saying their responses were based on a racist hatred,

Yes you are. You quoted this whole anecdote to “prove” that employers are racist.

as more blacks are underrepresented and STEM fields and he might of just ran into some shocked employers who rarely get black applicants.

Because they’re all racists who never see black people. Your implication is clear.

The point is that its not always strictly merit based qualifications. I personally wish it was that way but there are people who make judgements on other factors, race included.

Such as your Obama Party demands in Federal hiring and in university and school admissions.

So no its not every single case that the black person is underqualified and feel he needs to be hired. Personally I don’t want to be hired except by merit because its demeaning to be hired under any other circumstances. I rather be poor and broke then work from someone who doesn’t think I’m of the same worth of other employees.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 7:08 PM

But you eagerly support and endorse the Obama Party, which is the party of quotas and insisting that tests are racist.

That’s what is really funny. The Obama Party openly states in its platform its opposition to merit-based hiring and insists that skin color and other irrelevant points should be considered in public and private hiring, contracting, and education.

You seem quite obsessed with imaginary Republican sins, but seem quite unconcerned that the Obama Party thinks you’re stupid.

Hilarious bigotry and racism on your part.

northdallasthirty on January 23, 2012 at 7:20 PM

We have(or had) millions of illegal aliens working in the U.S.
while
We had millions of citizens on welfare/snap/food stamps, etc.

Why is it so impossible to create enough jobs to offer to the
U.S. citizens ( get them off the dole) and reduce the incentives
for illegals to poach jobs ?

If healthy citizens refuse to take the offer to work, off the
welfare rolls they go.

If the illegals want to work here, follow the rules and get in
line.

Please notice I did not mention race, color, creed, etc.

It’s easy to do when you’re not obsessed with re-election.

Now where is a job- creating Prez and Congress ??

amadan on January 23, 2012 at 7:30 PM

The next time Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton talk about “race” on national television somebody needs to call them by quoting Acts 17:26 which says that God has “made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth.” The Bible says all nations are of one blood, we are all the same, so their concept of “race” has no basis in Scripture.

apocalypse on January 23, 2012 at 3:03 PM

This is the same group of people whose understanding of charity is based on a murderer’s defensive quip to God. I doubt “basis in Scripture” keeps them up at night.

rogerb on January 23, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Roger I absolutely agree with you that Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson’s understanding is darkened, but the Word of God is a sword (Hebrews 4:12) and it can be used humble these two idiots (Proverbs 19:25). The Bible says that all men are descended from Adam, through Noah, and thus are members of ONE race — the human race (Acts 17:26). Anybody that says there are different races is calling God a liar. I am not one of these guys that will put up with that. Both phony Christians need to be called out with God’s Word and I am waiting for someone to do it on TV. Peace.

apocalypse on January 23, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Barney Frank didn’t get kicked out of his government job.

KeninCT on January 23, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Didn’t get arrested either. Apparently, up North, being a flamboyant, spittle-flecked pansy gets you out of a lot of things. Felonious things.

Sure. Barney didn’t know about the den of nasty being run downstairs, in his house. And you people don’t care. That’s why you’re willing to settle for any old dirtbag who comes along (as long as he has a ‘D’ attached).

Lord forgive us, as too many of us know not what we do.

Squiggy on January 24, 2012 at 5:46 AM

We have a president that is making more Americans victims than victors

That is a quote of the day.

ChuckTX on January 24, 2012 at 7:17 AM

If you think that makes me a racist, it doesn’t matter one way or another. Most black american’s are aware of how they’re viewed in this society and don’t have their heads in the sand. Please go back to call blacks welfare leeches.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 4:47 PM

You are a racist and you identified yourself as a bigot. I disagree with your statement about “Most black Americans.” Again you show you think and judge by the group. This is the classic behavior of predjudice and racism.

No one on welfare or foodstamps is necessarily a leech. Only you put it that way.

dogsoldier on January 24, 2012 at 9:24 AM

I can only assume you’re working on a preconceived narrative that all blacks support black politicians no matter what. Alright let me add more nuance to my position. I don’t particularly care to vote for someone who demonizes my whole race as welfare leeches, however, I also wouldn’t vote or support someone who abuses their position simply because they’re black. I guess I needed to make that distinction for some reason.

Realclearblue on January 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM

What you just did with that statement is exactly what you are accusing your rhetorical opponent of doing. I’m betting you didn’t even realize it when you did it. I’m also betting you don’t see it now that I’ve pointed right to where you did it IN THE SAME POST.

You stated quite clearly that you vote based on race. Even if that’s not the only basis for your vote, it’s blatantly racist. This has been pointed out to you several times, and each time you’ve merely tried to justify your blatant racism while simultaneously denying its existence. You are confused at best, a moron at worst, and a racist undeniably.

runawayyyy on January 24, 2012 at 2:40 PM

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