Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:00 am on January 22, 2012 by Allahpundit

The battle of South Carolina ends, the battle of Florida begins. Newt’s scheduled to appear only on “State of the Union” and Romney’s not scheduled to appear at all (two surrogates, Stuart Stevens and Chris Christie, are set for “Fox News Sunday” and “Meet the Press,” respectively), but that’ll probably change as the scramble to spin last night’s results turns frantic.

Here’s the full list via WaPo.

Update: Here come the late additions: Newt will appear on “Meet the Press” as well.

NBC’s Meet the Press: Gov. Chris Christie (R-NJ); Joe Scarborough, msnbc; Mike Murphy, Republican strategist; Katty Kay, BBC; Chuck Todd, NBC; Philadelphia Mayor Michael Nutter; Washington, DC Mayor Vincent Gray

ABC’s This Week: Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum; George Will, ABC; Matthew Dowd, political strategist and ABC News analyst; Ron Brownstein, National Journal; Katrina vanden Heuvel, The Nation

CBS’ Face the Nation: former Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour; Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) Joe Klein, Time Magazine; Kelly Evans, Wall Street Journal, John Dickerson, CBS News

CNN’s State of the Union with Candy Crowley: Rick Santorum; Newt Gingrich; Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC); Rep. James Clyburn (D-SC)

Fox News Sunday: Stuart Stevens, chief Romney strategist; Rep. John Boehner, (R-OH); Liz Cheney, Fox News; Liz Marlantes, Christian Science Monitor; Karl Rove, former Bush White House senior adviser and Fox News; Joe Trippi, Fox News


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canopfor on January 22, 2012 at 12:15 PM

As I said in the headlines, this is pretty rich when the current House majority gets schooled by Obama on a weekly basis. Gov. Christies, lets deal with some current embarrassments instead of ancient history.

Cindy Munford on January 22, 2012 at 12:27 PM

HEY – Ron Paul, Romney, Allahpundit, Tina and All You Other RINOs:

YOU AIN’T SEEN NUTHIN’ YET!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNwZFVIH36A&feature=related

williamg on January 22, 2012 at 12:28 PM

…And that’s just from Brit Hume. On this website, there will be meltdowns.

kingsjester on January 22, 2012 at 9:15 AM

What do you mean ‘will’ be meltdowns.

I think we saw some last night.

And we even saw a couple of ‘meltups’ for Newt.

Glad to see the primary did not degenerate into 3-state only coronation of a leftist who would get defeated easily in the general.

It’s good this is going to go on with the new primary rules. I want some drama here. This is a republic, not a dictatorship like the Establishment thinks.

Let the political equivalent of Verdun continue.

KirknBurker on January 22, 2012 at 12:29 PM

Newt needs to get ahead of the ethics charges as more Congressmen are going to bring up things that aren’t going to sit well with Conservative voters. Admit your mistakes, Newt, and convincingly lay out a case for your trustworthiness.

Decoski on January 22, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Nobody told you he was cleared of the ethics charges?
That was man of them.

katy the mean old lady on January 22, 2012 at 12:30 PM

YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJprEyXMrIk

williamg on January 22, 2012 at 12:31 PM

O.M.G,here we go!
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New Jersey Governor Chris Christie says Gingrich has embarrassed the US Republican party
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– @briefingroomStory metadata:
Submitted 13 mins ago from thehill.com by editor
http://www.breakingnews.com/
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http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/205637-christie-gingrich-embarrassed-gop?

canopfor on January 22, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Does he know that some consider that a good thing?

katy the mean old lady on January 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM

I’m so glad that there are soo many on here who claim to “know” what the hell independents want. Too many of those sound like the political pundits, armchair pundits who don’t really know shit about fly over country (I live in it) and independents (am one . I don’t pay attention to polls because I actually live one everyday with our patients. And here in OHio, they dont’ want Romney. Can’t make it any clearer than that, but hey let the professionals tell you what you want to hear. I personally hope that there are still 4 in the running for our primary. At least then we’d get a choice. I’m so tired of those in power taking our choices away and giving us one bad candidate to vote for in March. If Romney is the nominee, I will guarantee that he will lose Ohio.

noneoftheabove on January 22, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Newt is GUT-FIST-PUMPING AND STOMPING HIS FEET ON THE DANCE FLOOR!!

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAQdbYX5oeo&feature=related

Feel good about America? THEN START SLAMMING YOUR FIST ON THE TABLE OR THROUGH A WALL WITH NEWT!!!

williamg on January 22, 2012 at 12:33 PM

Just a Reminder!
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January 23, 2012
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9pm ET on NBC
Location:University of South Florida in Tampa, Florida
Sponsor: The Tampa Bay Times, NBC News, the National Journal and the Florida Council of 100
Participants: TBD
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http://www.2012presidentialelectionnews.com/2012-debate-schedule/2011-2012-primary-debate-schedule/

And,the SOTUA on Tuesday 23,2012!
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canopfor on January 22, 2012 at 12:26 PM

canopfor on January 22, 2012 at 12:34 PM

They would rather Obama be President than have a reformer that removes power from Washington win the election. The reason they took Newt out of the Speakership was he took power out of Washington.
astonerii on January 22, 2012 at 9:59 AM

Truth to Power!!

bluefox on January 22, 2012 at 12:35 PM

Romney exudes all the warmth of a frozen mackerel. Every time he’s forced to shake hands with conservatives, he looks around for a bottle of anti-bacterial gel. My vote’s going to Newt, because he is courageous, and courage will take you a long, long way. If I have to fight, I want a pit bull ~ not a toy poodle. This is my gut-reaction, and I’ve found them to be reliable.

TheClearRiver on January 22, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Does he know that some consider that a good thing?

katy the mean old lady on January 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM

ZING!

shaloma on January 22, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Oops,correction,SOTUA is on the 24TH!

canopfor on January 22, 2012 at 12:36 PM

Does he know that some consider that a good thing?

katy the mean old lady on January 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM

:-) I’d like to embarrass them more!!

bluefox on January 22, 2012 at 12:37 PM

Oops,correction,the SOTUA,is on the 24TH!

canopfor on January 22, 2012 at 12:39 PM

Oh 4 Sh!t’s Sake! Christie on MTP trashing Newt by spreading the Speakership Lies! How in the hell are guys like this going to be able to support Newt if he is the nominee? Being a RINO sucks, from the inside out. Yeah, I know you have to be RINO to rule in Joisey but nationally, you are getting derailed, Buster!
.
This stuff is on tape, Stupid!

ExpressoBold on January 22, 2012 at 10:23 AM

What Christie doesn’t realize is that the voters like(d) him
because he took on the corrupt unions with their salaries, benefits and pensions that are bankrupting states across the country. End of story. There is not much else to like. Just
because the tv/print media and certain bloggers rave about him
being president, etc. doesn’t mean the voters feel the same way.
We have always been looking for a good candidate. He was vetted
by the voters and tossed aside just like others.

And Christie’s ego is as huge as his waistline.v

Amjean on January 22, 2012 at 12:42 PM

canopfor on January 22, 2012 at 12:15 PM
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As I said in the headlines, this is pretty rich when the current House majority gets schooled by Obama on a weekly basis. Gov. Christies, lets deal with some current embarrassments instead of ancient history.

Cindy Munford on January 22, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Cindy Munford:Exactly,this Primary is getting better than the
Democrat Hillary Vrs. Obama nominee Civil War,
back in 2007/2008…..ugh!:)

canopfor on January 22, 2012 at 12:42 PM

noneoftheabove on January 22, 2012 at 12:33 PM

I have to tell you that I’d like to see the base more engaged before we worry about the independents.

Cindy Munford on January 22, 2012 at 12:45 PM

Amjean on January 22, 2012 at 12:42 PM

That’s an excellent point, most people have liked Gov. Christie for hitting back at the press and unions. I think it has been referred to here as “Christie porn”. More irony, we can’t get enough.

Cindy Munford on January 22, 2012 at 12:47 PM

I think that one of the reasons Gingrich won in SC is that he realised that “negative” campaining is in the eyes of the Liberal/democrat/marxists who try to control the debate by defining what you can say and what you can’t say. I think the people of SC are tired and disgusted with conservatives sitting quietly in their wallflower chair, taking whatever is thrown at them, without fighting back. These restrictions on conservative speech are having pernicious effects on the political discourse. That is one of the most important marxist programs we can fight. As Lincoln said about Grant: Find out what kind of whiskey he drinks snd send him a bottle. I don’t care if he drinks, He fights! I don’t care how perfect the other candidates are and how much they may or may not ALWAYS agree with me, Gingrich Fights! Let that be his marching song!

Old Country Boy on January 22, 2012 at 10:45 AM
I agree. Newt is angry about the same issues we are all angry with. And since we don’t have a voice, even tho some always seem
to find their 15 minutes of fame LOL, every time Newt speaks
it is like words coming out of our mouth.

Every time Romney speaks, I think of Obama and I really don’t
want to think about him any more.

Amjean on January 22, 2012 at 12:47 PM

canopfor on January 22, 2012 at 12:15 PM
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Does he know that some consider that a good thing?

katy the mean old lady on January 22, 2012 at 12:32 PM

katy the mean old lady:

I would hope so,considering that Obama has spent over 4
years DEMONIZING Team Right,and now certain people within
the Party,are having a cow that Newt is fighting back,going
after Hopey!:)

canopfor on January 22, 2012 at 12:48 PM

Don’t be crowning Jabba the Hutt king yet! Newt will soon be out of camera and sound bite range this week, since there is no debate…let’s see where his mouth will go.

KOOLAID2 on January 22, 2012 at 8:37 AM

Excuse me but Chris Cristie is ‘Jabba the Hutt’. FIFY

KirknBurker on January 22, 2012 at 12:49 PM

They already have his number. Nasty Newt, the manic depressive Grinch, is the angriest man in politics. Well this will be an entertaining few weeks, until he ultimately loses.

ray on January 22, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Yeah Newt got two standing ovations during the last two debates, they have his number alright.

Dr Evil on January 22, 2012 at 12:00 PM
“Ray” you have to start realizing that Newt’s surge is BECAUSE
he is angry, just like US!!!!! He is reflecting the mood of the
voters.

Amjean on January 22, 2012 at 12:51 PM

Well Cindy, it seems your base likes to shoot itself in the foot and after witnessing 2008 from my ex party, I’d say I’m probably more conservative than some on here. I was pretty conservative in the democrat party but they didn’t want us, and I don’t think the republicans want us either. So we consider ourselves independents. Just because they have a “d” or an “r” beside their name doesn’t mean anything to me anymore. I see the same kind of thing going on with the republican party that I saw with the democrats. Let Romney skate threw and if you question it, then you’re “anti-capitalist”, you’re wanting Obama to win, the hits go on. I’ve heard it all before with the “one”. If you didn’t like O, then you were racists, un educated, bitter clinger. And it’s starting to sound oh so familiar with the republican elites.

noneoftheabove on January 22, 2012 at 12:52 PM

noneoftheabove on January 22, 2012 at 12:33 PM

He is just the type to NOT run in Ohio.

And if the GOP loses Ohio, but still takes back Nevada, Colorado, Indiana, Virginia, North Carolina, Florida, and New Mexico, Obama STILL WINS.

All Obama has to do is hold his solid blue states and keep Ohio and Iowa and he wins.

And Mittens will not win Iowa or Ohio. He can’t. Santorum would be a better candidate to run in those states than Mittens. And Newt would do well too if he continues to concentrate on the economy and jobs and avoiding fiscal ruin.

KirknBurker on January 22, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Cristie: Waaaa, I wanted Romney to win and he didn’t so I’m going to trash the other candidate on the Sunday talk shows.

He might want to tone down his divisive rhetoric a tad, lest he wants to run for office himself one day.

Why is a governor who chose not to run for president, (despite being asked repeatedly to do so for his party) suddenly an authority on presidential candidates anyway? He just needs to STFD and STFU.

scalleywag on January 22, 2012 at 1:01 PM

No the TEA party isn’t dead it turned out yesterday and voted for Gingrich.

You must have missed all the Sarah and Todd Palin post on this website in the last week. Sarah Palin is very popular among people who identify TEA party. Like myself an Independent.

Dr Evil on January 22, 2012 at 11:07 AM

Tea Party has been bought and re-branded…and now has the doofus Herman Cain as spokesman who is trying to edge out Palin to be the new Fox Pundit…and will be when her contract is up.

Ya’ll have been played.

workingclass artist on January 22, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Paul supporters loathe the Tea Party because they won’t vote for Paul and are looking for small government alternatives to Paul. This is not that different from how liberal Republicans loathe the Tea Party – it’s all because we won’t vote for their candidates.

Doomberg on January 22, 2012 at 9:29 AM

Wait till Ron Paul is out of the way, and Rand Paul goes up the ranks. Rand Paul would be acceptable to the Tea Party.

The two to watch are Rand Paul and Scott Walker. And, to a lesser extent, Bobby Jindal.

I think Rubio is being groomed by the Establishment and ends up one of them.

KirknBurker on January 22, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Tea Party has been bought and re-branded…and now has the doofus Herman Cain as spokesman who is trying to edge out Palin to be the new Fox Pundit…and will be when her contract is up.

Ya’ll have been played.

workingclass artist on January 22, 2012 at 1:03 PM

That’s ridiculous. Cain is an inspiring speaker but he is not the Tea Party, at least not any more.

Sarah’s star still shines. I could see her at Energy under a Gingrich administration opening up energy resources and helping to make the USA a net exporter of energy and petroleum and gas.

KirknBurker on January 22, 2012 at 1:18 PM

noneoftheabove on January 22, 2012 at 12:52 PM

I know, I have been unaffiliated most of my life since I seldom fit into the designated peg holes. How hard is it to promote spending money on strictly constitution prescribed expenditures and not spend more than you rob, I mean take in?

Cindy Munford on January 22, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Wait till Ron Paul is out of the way, and Rand Paul goes up the ranks. Rand Paul would be acceptable to the Tea Party.

The two to watch are Rand Paul and Scott Walker. And, to a lesser extent, Bobby Jindal.

I think Rubio is being groomed by the Establishment and ends up one of them.

KirknBurker on January 22, 2012 at 1:16 PM

Scott Walker will definitely be an “up and comer”.
Rand Paul, perhaps not. He has shown some whacky tendencies
lately ala his father. Rubio will be suspect as well. One
has to remember that the majority of the Tea Party (Parties)
is conservative thinking. Some candidates talked the talk in trying
to get Tea Party backing in order to get elected (Scott Brown,
Nikki Haley, etc.), however, have stumbled badly in attempting
the “walk”. We won’t forget.

Amjean on January 22, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Cindy Munford on January 22, 2012 at 1:18 PM

Sad but true

noneoftheabove on January 22, 2012 at 1:25 PM

astonerii on January 22, 2012 at 9:02 AM

Thank you that was a wonderful reading for exactly why most Rdon’t trust Romney

Gracelynn on January 22, 2012 at 2:23 PM

nonoftheabove on Jan. 22 at 12:33 PM -

I guess all independents are not created equal. Here, in the Philadelphia suburbs, a Romney candidacy looks a lot more attractive than a Gingrich candidacy.

I’m sad to say that watching the Republican primaries up-close brings back bad memories of the 2008 Democratic primaries: hatred, name calling and vitriol.

What’s even more depressing is the “American Idol” quality of the conversation, only this time instead of Barack Obama “Hope and Change” we have Newt Gingrich Beating up on the MSM.

Newt is a great debater, there is no question about that, but we are in the process of electing the president of the United States, not the head of a high school debating team. I don’t think the man who couldn’t get on the ballot in his home state, has the temperament and the discipline to be a good president.

mexdem on January 22, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Newt on Meet the Depressed this morning actually dared to bring up Saul Alinsky! Not that many Americans know who he was, but the political junkies (at least the conservatives) that watch the talking heads on Sunday morning do. This is not something you mention on mainstream TV.

Mitt tiptoes around the radical agenda of The Puppet President and his handlers, but clearly Newt is not afraid to speak the truth. And that’s why he’s getting standing ovations. Newt will educate the American public, and, more than anything else, that’s what we need right now.

I should add, though: We also need to educate Newt, especially about the ‘global warming’ hoax.

MrLynn on January 22, 2012 at 2:39 PM

This has been a remarkable 24 hours. It’s priceless to listen to the fringe segment who fancy themselves to be uber-conservatives cheering for the great victory against RINOs, led by … Newt Gringrich?

I almost feel sorry for you bozos. You will awaken from your drunken stupor sometime soon to realize that he’s not who you have attempted to conjure up. He just isn’t.

Jaibones on January 22, 2012 at 3:36 PM

This has been a remarkable 24 hours. It’s priceless to listen to the fringe segment who fancy themselves to be uber-conservatives cheering for the great victory against RINOs, led by … Newt Gringrich?

I almost feel sorry for you bozos. You will awaken from your drunken stupor sometime soon to realize that he’s not who you have attempted to conjure up. He just isn’t.

Jaibones on January 22, 2012 at 3:36 PM

but in a year where the electorate is already accepting flawed candidates, newt actually has a chance. i am still trying to make out how this can help my guy ron paul.

nathor on January 22, 2012 at 4:10 PM

Tea Party has been bought and re-branded…and now has the doofus Herman Cain as spokesman who is trying to edge out Palin to be the new Fox Pundit…and will be when her contract is up.

Ya’ll have been played.

workingclass artist on January 22, 2012 at 1:03 PM

Herman Cain couldn’t have turned the herd in South Carolina with his endorsement or suggestion of an endorsement, The way the Palin’s did. When they signaled that Newt Gingrich has what it takes to win.

Herman Cain did win the Booby Prize in South Carolina GRIN.

Colbert Bump: Herman Cain Gets Over 6000 Votes In South Carolina

Dr Evil on January 22, 2012 at 4:41 PM

but in a year where the electorate is already accepting flawed candidates, newt actually has a chance. i am still trying to make out how this can help my guy ron paul.

nathor on January 22, 2012 at 4:10 PM

I hope so, but I Gingrich is demonstrably less conservative than John McCain. The difference seems to be that evangelicals — who I am increasingly distrustful of — and conservatives both seem energized to support this phony…I have no idea why.

If he somehow ends up as the candidate, I’ll vote for him. But I have a bad feeling.

Jaibones on January 22, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Herman Cain couldn’t have turned the herd in South Carolina with his endorsement or suggestion of an endorsement, The way the Palin’s did.

Give us a break. The Palin endorsements had zero to do with the outcome in SC. ZERO.

xblade on January 22, 2012 at 5:30 PM

The SC win had, in my opinion, everything to do with the backfiring of the ABC interview with ex-wife #2 and the A.D.D. political populace on the right that is dying to back anyone that is passionate. The rapid rise and fall of Bachmann, Cain, Perry, Santorum and Newt are indicative of how little people know about politics but how desperate they are to back someone other than Romney.

Newt is a massive mess that will take the wedge that Obama has driven into middle America and drive it deeper into our heart thanks to his ego and his desire to get what he wants at all costs.

America needs a leader that will unite and generate consensus, not a man that will piss off a massive chunk of the population while throwing political temper tantrums.

I am scared for our country…

TheLoudTalker on January 22, 2012 at 7:18 PM

Well to me, if you think Romney is the one to unite this country when it’s as pissed off as ever, then I have some ocean front property in Ohio to sell you. Romney is Obama lite, just look at his record in Mass. That’s all I need to know. And working in healthcare, let me tell you, Romneycare is NOT popular, especially since it was the blueprint for Obamacare. It is a losing proposition. In fact, if Romney is the nominee, I may miss the election and that would be a first in my over 35 years of voting. Why hold my nose and vote for the same shit, different party?

noneoftheabove on January 22, 2012 at 7:21 PM

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