Romney commits to Florida debates
posted at 11:05 am on January 21, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
Mitt Romney may not look inevitable after tonight’s South Carolina primary results — and that’s why this decision was, well, inevitable:
Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney (R) said during a visit to campaign headquarters here Saturday morning that he will participate in the debate scheduled for Monday in Tampa.
His chief strategist, Stuart Stevens, told reporters Romney would also participate in Thursday’s debate in Jacksonville.
“Yeah, yeah, I’ll be doing the debate on Monday,” Romney said in response to a reporter’s question as he worked the phones calling voters at his Greenville headquarters. “Yeah, I’m in.”
Just four days ago, Romney was “wavering” on committing to more debates, in Florida or anywhere else. Four days ago, though, he had a comfortable if not safe lead in South Carolina. Had Newt Gingrich cratered on Thursday with the Marianne Gingrich dish, Romney may have had an opportunity to put an end to both the debates and the race. Instead, Gingrich predictably used it to go nuclear on the media in the next debate, and lo and behold, Romney needs a way to stop Gingrich in Florida, which suddenly looks uncomfortably like Romney’s firewall rather than his coronation venue.
Speaking of which, Florida still looks pretty solid for Romney, although we haven’t seen any polling there since Gingrich caught his second wind in South Carolina, and a win for Gingrich there tonight will have some impact on the Sunshine State. Early voting begins today in Florida, though, in sixty-two of 67 counties in the state. Five other counties started early voting last Monday, due to a loophole in the state law, and absentee voting presumably has taken place this entire month. Ballots cast while Romney has a 20+ point margin in polling will overwhelmingly favor him, especially since his campaign has the most organization in the state to drive that early voting. It’s very possible that Romney could build enough of a lead in early and absentee voting, thanks to his huge early polling lead and organization, to make the Florida debates much less impactful than this week’s debates in South Carolina.
Update: Just to give an idea of the scope of the absentee ballot effort, the AP reported this on January 12th, while Romney had a solid 20+ point lead:
Voting is already well under way even though Florida doesn’t hold its GOP nominating contest until Jan. 31. And both Mitt Romney, coming off of back-to-back victories in Iowa and New Hampshire, and Ron Paul are aggressively reaching out to voters who have requested ballots.
None of their competitors has been nearly as active even though the victor in Florida would get a huge boost of momentum and all of the state’s 50 delegates to the national nominating convention.
As of Tuesday, 424,000 Republican absentee ballots had been mailed — to military personnel, overseas residents and other Floridians — and about 84,000 had been returned in a state that has 4 million registered Republican voters. Early voting in Hillsborough, Hardy, Hendry, Monroe and Collier counties begins Monday and runs through Jan. 29. Florida’s other 62 counties will hold early voting Jan. 21-28.
By this time those absentee ballots probably are well over 100,000. In 2008, Republicans cast about 1.5 million votes in the primaries, so the absentees won’t be decisive, but they could make it a lot more difficult for late surgers like Gingrich to gain ground.
Update II: Marc Caputo reported on Thursday that the number of ballots returned has gone well beyond the 100K mark:
More than 138,000 Florida Republicans have cast mail-in absentee ballots already of the 455,622 requested so far and another 5,000 have voted early at the polls in some counties, according to Republican Party of Florida’s spokesman, Brian Hughes.
Republican insiders expect as many as a third of the GOP ballots to be cast early in the effort to choose a nominee to oppose President Barack Obama.
The total of 143,000 would be close to 10% of the votes cast in the 2008 Republican primary. The early votes being cast starting today and the rest of the outstanding absentee ballots could mean that a third or more of the votes will already be cast before the second debate in Florida takes place. That will give Romney a very big head start.
Update III: Caputo updated those figures this morning, and now the total is nearly 200,000:
But it could be a different story in Florida, where Republicans have been casting early votes by mail all month. Early voting at special precincts is now underway statewide as well. Only one campain, Mitt Romney’s, has made a concerted effort to target those voters.
So far, 185,435 absentee ballots have been cast and 11,836 early votes have been cast at precincts for a total of 197,271.
Assuming that Romney got 41% of these (80,881) and Gingrich 22% (43,400) as RCP’s polling average would suggest, Romney would have a 37,481 vote lead at this point in time — and that doesn’t take into account Romney’s organization and GOTV efforts on early/absentee voting. That’s pretty significant, and as the early vote progresses, that advantage will continue to grow. (via DebitKing)
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Congrats, Allah.
McCain will be the next senator to flip and I’ll take Joe Donnelly as the next Democrat to do so.
alchemist19 on April 4, 2013 at 8:03 PM
Why no mention of evolution? Is that passe?
Mason on April 4, 2013 at 8:07 PM
I’m thinking that all the sensitive lefties who called and emailed Bill’s office to tell him he is a worthless, old, white POS who should be dragged behind a truck and then lit on fire are probably feeling bad about what they did now that he’s seen the light.
Bishop on April 4, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Does this mean you’re finally coming out of the closet?
SWalker on April 4, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Redheads are triste.
Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 8:13 PM
**Six DemonRats to Go*,from my sources,er,rumour(s)!
canopfor on April 4, 2013 at 8:21 PM
If Nelson were up for re-election next year he’d have a different story.
Oh, and did you know he was an astronaut?
Curtiss on April 4, 2013 at 8:22 PM
Why of course. The logic is inescapable.
Cleombrotus on April 4, 2013 at 8:23 PM
Er,thats **Six Senators to Go**!!
http://twitpic.com/ch0c7j
canopfor on April 4, 2013 at 8:23 PM
So basically he is saying Sacred Honor compelled him to do this?
Rocks on April 4, 2013 at 8:24 PM
There is a lot of flotsam and jetsam (and other stuff) floating in that gay-marriage pool. I think I’lll swim elsewhere.
Pork-Chop on April 4, 2013 at 8:24 PM
I dunno. Maybe they were right.
Curtiss on April 4, 2013 at 8:26 PM
There is too much to say about this facepalm-worthy statement. There is so much wrong with trying to make religious arguments (at least from a Christian perspective) in favor of SSM that it’s laughable.
This parade of politicians suddenly having epiphanies that SSM is OK to them is hilarious. Bunch of hypocrites. If it polled well tomorrow to say that Mohammed was the founder of America, I’m sure they’d jump on that bandwagon as well.
Othniel on April 4, 2013 at 8:26 PM
Profiles in
CourageI don’t know what but it’s not Courage. I don’t get these people at all. If the right to “gay marriage” matters to them then how are they all “evolving” on this issue at the time, like birds on a telephone wire that all follow the first one that takes off? What’s the deal?Paul-Cincy on April 4, 2013 at 8:27 PM
God also made murders and rapists, so should we legalize murder and rape because hey, if it was not His will, they wouldn’t exist, right?
/rolleyes
kaltes on April 4, 2013 at 8:27 PM
This doesn’t suprise me. Frankly, I always had the feeling he was gay himself. Just something about him.
BeachBum on April 4, 2013 at 8:28 PM
I keep waiting for one of these submissive, willowy fruit cakes to screw up and say they support BDSM.
With his neck pinched in like that, you have to admit he certainly looks like he’s been spending his nights wearing a gimp mask for a few years…
Asurea on April 4, 2013 at 8:31 PM
The quoting of the Declaration of Independence, and then, ipso facto, “gay marriage” … voila. It’s nutty. This isn’t a well-reasoned argument. Not when you turn your life-long position on a dime, 180 degrees, in the course of a day, because a bunch of other Senators did too.
Paul-Cincy on April 4, 2013 at 8:32 PM
You know I really hate when they use the “LORD” to cite their support for SSM. If Christians get bashed for using their beliefs to object to; then I say supporters aren’t allowed to use the G-O-D the other way either.
Just a thought..
When will O’Reilly accuse the gay side of Bible thumping mmmm?
melle1228 on April 4, 2013 at 8:38 PM
S you’re saying he’s a Space Cadet.
RickB on April 4, 2013 at 8:39 PM
Additionally, the whole, “They’re born gay!” crap is, well, crap. Genetics that discourage breeding die out, by definition. Exclusive homosexuality, as encouraged by these liberal wind bags, is an evolutionary dead end.
TL;DR: God didn’t make homosexuals a feature; they’re a bug(gering).
Asurea on April 4, 2013 at 8:42 PM
My sister’s best friend swears that once SSM becomes legalized she wants to codify her $lave/Ma$ter contract with her partner in the law, and she thinks it should have the same weight as a marriage via equal protection.
I am at the point where I say “oh he!!, why not?” Its all coming down the pipe.. The private has become public..
melle1228 on April 4, 2013 at 8:43 PM
I’m thinking that all the sensitive lefties who called and emailed Bill’s office to tell him he is a worthless, old, white POS who should be dragged behind a truck and then lit on fire are probably feeling bad about what they did now that he’s seen the light.
Bishop on April 4, 2013 at 8:08 PM
Bishop:You sir,have nailed it!:)
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canopfor on April 4, 2013 at 8:44 PM
Me thinks,that after four years of Democrat Operatives,
and working hand in hand with the MSM,and all the Perception/Deception in Polling,and Narrational Hi-Jack
ing,
here we,er,…. the (US of A) are!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
canopfor on April 4, 2013 at 8:47 PM
Once again, the ranks of the foolish golden calf worshipers increases.
Dr. Carlo Lombardi on April 4, 2013 at 9:01 PM
This is typical of the Democrats. They have no scruples and in the case of Nelson, the election is over and he probably won’t run in 6 years. The only people taking a tough stand are the Republicans and, although I don’t agree with them, at least they know they’re taking a tough stand. The Democrats are just duplicitous.
bflat879 on April 4, 2013 at 9:02 PM
Since he doesn’t seem to care about the traditions or meanings of institutions, I guess he’s also for men entering beauty contests as well.
Still, it’s nice to see Democrats citing religion so much nowadays…
…(?)
Dongemaharu on April 4, 2013 at 9:11 PM
I was going to make a crack about two girls, the public, and buying tickets, but…
Asurea on April 4, 2013 at 9:11 PM
This Nelson announcement is different than all but one that we have seen so far in this spurt of announcements. It’s sincere. Everyone else announcing an evolution has believed in gay marriage since the 1990′s (or in one or two cases for only a decade). In contrast, Nelson is looking at different landscape about gay people, and changing his mind. Nelson’s change is as admirable as Portman’s was!
On the other hand, I am sympathetic to why so many Senators hide their honest feelings on this subject for so long. And why some GOP are still hiding their honest feelings that gay marriage would be moral progress.
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 9:32 PM
I had Nelson but tomorrow.
Cindy Munford on April 4, 2013 at 9:35 PM
Oh, yeah. He was just re-elected last year so before next time rolls around he can further evolve “upon reflection” if he thinks the wind blows the other way.
INC on April 4, 2013 at 10:00 PM
He’s not going to become going to espose bigoted views again. Not a single Senator who announced a change in views on SSM is going back. You can forget about you own insane bigotry becoming the mainstream position again.
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 10:04 PM
Nelson is a fake.
I simply cannot wait to give him a piece of my mind. Using the Declaration and God to justify his decision?
Please.
The devil can quote Scripture for his own devices, but Bill didn’t even bother to do that. He just made something up out of whole cloth.
INC on April 4, 2013 at 10:04 PM
It’s sanity to uphold marriage—an institution that’s crossed time, cultures, and religions.
INC on April 4, 2013 at 10:05 PM
It’s bigoted to preserve the meaning of something?
Dongemaharu on April 4, 2013 at 10:11 PM
It’s all BS for a small amount of votes. Watch out for the backfire.
Wade on April 4, 2013 at 10:12 PM
It is far less universal than your unsupported claims make it out to be. The historical record is that there were committed gay couples in ancient Greece. They weren’t called married because marriage was the man owning the woman. The gay couples better reflected the democratic values reflected in the Declaration of Indepedence and the Constitution than the heterosexual marriages of ancient Greece. In ancient Athens, the same ceremony was held for the wife of a new marriage and the introduction of new slave in the household. The exact same ceremony!
Beyond ancient Greece, archeology is full of examples of instutitonal examples of gay relationships, including some of the most successful cultures like medieval Japan.
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 10:16 PM
Historically, in many cultures, marriage has meant a man’s ownership of a woman. I’d say that’s bigotted.
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 10:17 PM
I was speaking of marriage, not relationships.
INC on April 4, 2013 at 10:22 PM
In America?
Dongemaharu on April 4, 2013 at 10:23 PM
Nelson did nothing that Saint Francis of Assisi wouldn’t have approved of. There has always been a tradition of reasonableness and kindness in our tradition.
But even if you want to condemn Nelson in the way you did, you have to address the moral question of Huckleberry Finn. Huckleberry Finn worried about his sin of helping Jim escape from slavery as it was stealing as defined by his society. Huckleberry Finn finally decides “all right I’ll go to Hell.”
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 10:28 PM
Cool. If you want to focus in America history, we have a record of changing our mind about many forms of bigotry. Why is this different?
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 10:30 PM
HEY! I had Nelson down for Thursday at 6:00!
Although it WAS last Thursday………
Barred on April 4, 2013 at 10:46 PM
Because the purpose of marriage isn’t to accommodate the gay lifestyle, nor is it to own women, nor is it be bigoted just because you say it is. Because one group cannot engage in some sort of activity it doesn’t mean they have a right to engage in that activity. As a man, I have no right to use the ladies restroom. And I’m not butthurt about it either, because I know there’s a purpose behind it that doesn’t include me. And I certainly don’t kneejerk call women bigots because they won’t let me use the ladies room.
Dongemaharu on April 4, 2013 at 10:55 PM
Barred on April 4, 2013 at 11:00 PM
Maybe everything you said would so awesome, but the fact is the purpose of marriage historically was ownerhsip of women, and man aren’t burned at the stake for using a woman’s restroom. They are just stared at funny.
And yes your views are bigotted. There really is no exucse for the barbaric hateful tortures that your tradition put gays through. Buring people alive for your f**** evil morality is so beyond the pale of anything moral and descent that you should be ashamed of what you have to say. Yes, this tradition that you want to support murdered gay people by torture. Tell me how that makes you feel good about what you say.
thuja on April 4, 2013 at 11:12 PM
I think somebody has some issues. *ahem*
Othniel on April 4, 2013 at 11:45 PM
LOL.
Do you think we care what you scream, you pedophile and child-rape supporter?
But it gets much better with what the lying thuja and gay-sex marriage supporters endorse as THEIR “tradition”.
And you want to talk torture, you disgusting pig?
Come on, gay-sex marriage bigot. You want to scream that Christians are responsible for burning people at the stake, you’re going to eat every last word and deed of what your filthy gay-sex marriage community has endorsed, supported and done.
And if you start screaming and bawling about how you can’t be held accountable for this, your blatant bigotry and hypocrisy will be revealed for all to see, and your life as a concern troll will be OVER.
northdallasthirty on April 5, 2013 at 1:23 AM
And what did thuja and its fellow gay-sex marriage supporters do?
Oh, that’s right, deliberately lie and give infected and tainted blood to make thousands of other people sick.
This despite KNOWING:
So that’s your “morality”, you sick thug thuja; you and your fellow gay-sex marriage supporters KNOWINGLY AND DELIBERATELY contaminated the US blood supply, leading to THOUSANDS of innocent people getting HIV and hepatitis and dying.
That’s what you support, pig. That’s what you do. And again, if you so much as raise a whimper about how you can’t be held accountable, you once again prove that you are nothing more than a hypocrite and concern troll.
northdallasthirty on April 5, 2013 at 1:27 AM
So many distortions, so many, so very many, grotesque twists of the human mind toward some sort of mushy end, principles be damned, those ugly, disgusting things.
There must be something infectious acquired when people take political office. It seems so many of them abandon themselves to alternate realities and alternate personalities depending on their goal of keeping the office.
Thus, realities: twisted. Logic: broken, abandoned. Avowed beliefs: bastardized and misrepresented when the idea of losing political office (and perks) arises.
Lourdes on April 5, 2013 at 3:41 AM
I’m sensing some big donations Bill Nelson received not too long ago, prior to this Massively Irrational Thursday Announcement.
Lourdes on April 5, 2013 at 3:51 AM
These sanctimonious POSs are really starting to irate me.
THE CONGRESS HAS THE POWER AND AUTHORITY TO MAKE THE CHANGE W/O HAVING SCOTUS INVOLVED!!!!!
Where is the tax legislation that allows gays to file as a special class, or get special tax treatment on trusts, or exemptions or anything else the LGBT groups claim are infringements on their “rights”?
Why aren’t all these evolved, worthless a-holes submitting and sponsering legislation to change it?
gonnjos on April 5, 2013 at 7:52 AM
Sigh! Senators making petitions to the Supreme Court!
I think they know that the justices are supposed to be interpreting the law (rather than the wind-direction, which so preoccupies these senators).
That’s a laugh too! How do we think the lesbian and the wise latina will rule? SCOTUS, if it has any sense, will treat it as the states voter rights issue it always was.
Californians had a vote. Gays don’t like it. So what?
virgo on April 6, 2013 at 2:52 AM