Oh my: Gingrich’s lead increasing in final hours before South Carolina vote? Update: Gingrich by 14

posted at 10:05 pm on January 20, 2012 by Allahpundit

Normally I wouldn’t build a post around a single tweet but this one from PPP is too tantalizing to ignore. Polls open in SC tomorrow bright and early at 7 a.m.:

Newt posted his best numbers of our 3 day field period tonight

On Wednesday, they found Gingrich with a six-point lead. Yesterday they found the same. Today it’s … greater than six, although they haven’t posted the exact numbers yet. Jed Lewison of Daily Kos, which uses PPP as its pollster, guesses it’s now Newt by nine or 10 points, which makes sense if you assume another little boost from last night’s debate plus Perry dropping out and endorsing Gingrich. The exact numbers are less important, though, than the fact that Newt’s apparently putting distance between himself and Romney as time runs out. Hard to see how he doesn’t win now — dirty tricks notwithstanding. (He’s at 82 percent on InTrade, up more than 10 points from this afternoon.)

Via Newsbusters, here’s Scarborough claiming that all of the “conservative movers and shakers” he’s spoken to recently are angling for a brokered convention. You know who that benefits? Right: Ron Paul. Exit quotation from Dan McLaughlin: “Basically, if Romney sees Newt’s shadow tomorrow, it means six more weeks of primaries.”

Update: The numbers are out. Over the course of three days, his lead averaged out to nine points. But tonight? Double digits:

Gingrich’s lead has actually increased in the wake of his ex-wife’s controversial interview with ABC. Although one night poll results should always be interpreted with caution, he led the final night of the field period by a 40-26 margin. One thing that continues to work to his advantage are the debates. 60% of primary voters report having watched the one last night, and Gingrich has a 46-23 lead with those folks.

The other reason his ex-wife’s interview isn’t causing him much trouble is that there’s a lot of skepticism about it. Only 31% of voters say they think her accusations are true while 35% think they are false and 34% are unsure. 51% of voters say that they have ‘no concerns’ about what came out in the interview.

However:

piece today for Huffington Post about ‘expecting the unexpected’ tomorrow is well worth a read. Gingrich will probably win tomorrow- but there’s a higher than normal chance for a surprise given everything that’s gone down in the last 48 hours.


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The Obama people are terrified of Romney

matthew8787 on January 21, 2012 at 2:45 PM

You dwell in an alternate reality. They are thrilled…well, they were, until this week.

Schadenfreude on January 21, 2012 at 3:00 PM

Rombots sure get pissy when they’re losing.

29Victor on January 21, 2012 at 3:01 PM

I don’t see what’s courageous about pledging to vote REpublican no matter who the nominee is. Loyalty Oaths are for Stalinists, not free thinking Americans.

Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 3:03 PM

Rombots sure get pissy when they’re losing.

29Victor on January 21, 2012 at 3:01 PM

No kiddin’.

kingsjester on January 21, 2012 at 3:04 PM

If ROmney wins the nomination, and somebody like Palin or Jim DeMInt were to run 3rd party, I’d vote for 3rd party. This is a year that a 3rd party could win.

Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 3:05 PM

My grandmother died from a self-induced abortion. Choice is essential, otherwise you’re just another dictator lording your power over women. c.j.ammenheuser on January 21, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Your grandmother–may God rest her soul–tried to “lord her power over” her unborn child–who was a human being as much as she was. Abortion shouldn’t be a feminist issue. Women’s rights don’t supersede human rights. Abortion is a human rights issue.

wordmum on January 21, 2012 at 3:07 PM

This is a year that a 3rd party could win.

With the support of tens of billions of dollars of SuperPAC money perhaps.

And if Trump, Paul, DeMint, Palin or Cain run third-party, the Republican vote will be split. There will be four more years of BHO.

The US election system is highly resistant to challenges to the two-party paradigm.

TXGOP on January 21, 2012 at 3:15 PM

Every single person that is pro-choice is alive. That’s simply my argument.

You welcome.

ProudPalinFan on January 21, 2012 at 3:18 PM

So Mitt sent a cake to Newt to “celebrate” the 15th Anniversary of his ethics report.
You know what?- Screw This Guy.No class and a stuttering dumbass to boot.
Only Mitt could make me love Newt- hell of a job.

jjshaka on January 21, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Every single person that is pro-choice is alive. That’s simply my argument.

You welcome.

ProudPalinFan on January 21, 2012 at 3:18 PM

awesome

TXGOP on January 21, 2012 at 3:21 PM

If you got ten minutes, watch Alexander Tsiara’s conference about his work on current technologies looking at the woman’s body from conception to birth.

If you have a bone of sensibility in your body, you won’t want to destroy something so beautiful. And listen to what he says, from a SCIENTIFIC point of view.

Watch it here.

ProudPalinFan on January 21, 2012 at 3:22 PM

I don’t see what’s courageous about pledging to vote REpublican no matter who the nominee is. Loyalty Oaths are for Stalinists, not free thinking Americans.

Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 3:03 PM

And the moby is still at it I see.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 3:23 PM

Mitt is the only candidate who has the money and organization to go the distance. He has been guarded – perhaps too guarded since NH – because he hasn’t wanted to throw red meat to the base w remarks that he’ll have to walk back in the general. This is part of the strategy for winning in November. We cannot nominate someone who is so bruised and marginalized that it becomes impossible to defeat Obama.

matthew8787 on January 21, 2012 at 2:57 PM

He hasn’t wanted to throw “red meat”?

I want RED MEAT!!!! I’m a CONSERVATIVE and proud of it. Mittens has been throwing turds at the base and hoping we won’t notice.

We cannot nominate someone who is so bruised and marginalized that it becomes impossible to defeat Obama.

God forbid that we should actually get a Republican candidate who actually likes espousing conservative principles. Instead we get Romney, the male version of Meghan McCain, and his defenders, who worry that the poor dear will get “bruised” before the general election.

Gladtobehere on January 21, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Mitt is the only candidate who has the money and organization to go the distance. He has been guarded – perhaps too guarded since NH – because he hasn’t wanted to throw red meat to the base w remarks that he’ll have to walk back in the general. This is part of the strategy for winning in November. We cannot nominate someone who is so bruised and marginalized that it becomes impossible to defeat Obama.

matthew8787 on January 21, 2012 at 2:57 PM

So, from what I am getting is that Romney will take his ball and go home, and not help support Newt if Newt is the nominee? Is that what I am getting from you? Romney is a fair weather republican? It makes sense, that is how he has lived his life since the early 1990′s, I just somehow thought that Romney’s supporters were disciplined enough to not remind everyone.

astonerii on January 21, 2012 at 3:34 PM

Mittens has been throwing turds at the base and hoping we won’t notice.

Who threw a turd on you?

God forbid that we should actually get a Republican candidate who actually likes espousing conservative principles.

Like taking the occupy Wall St. stance on capital investments? Or like working for Freddy Mac? Or working with Pelosi on “global warming”? Or cheating on one wife after another? Or like being on all sides of any given issue whenever it’s convenient?
Gingrich is no conservative. He’s a beltway politician.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 3:34 PM

If you have a bone of sensibility in your body, you won’t want to destroy something so beautiful. And listen to what he says, from a SCIENTIFIC point of view

You’re right of course. Personal responsibility is a thing of the past, and we should have babies even if we can’t afford to feed them.
Thank God we have welfare to help mothers who can’t afford to feed their babies. Thank God it provides free health care and education too.

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c.j.ammenheuser on January 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM

He hasn’t wanted to throw “red meat”?

I want RED MEAT!!!! I’m a CONSERVATIVE and proud of it. Mittens has been throwing turds at the base and hoping we won’t notice.

We cannot nominate someone who is so bruised and marginalized that it becomes impossible to defeat Obama.

God forbid that we should actually get a Republican candidate who actually likes espousing conservative principles. Instead we get Romney, the male version of Meghan McCain, and his defenders, who worry that the poor dear will get “bruised” before the general election.

Gladtobehere on January 21, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Here’s some red meat. Gingrich is fat, ugly, a cheat, liar, anti-capitalist, sleeps with Pelosi, shoulder to shoulder with economy killer Freddie mac, pro-lobbying, etc…

Keep up your suport.

rubberneck on January 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM

My grandmother died from a self-induced abortion. Choice is essential, otherwise you’re just another dictator lording your power over women. c.j.ammenheuser on January 21, 2012 at 2:45 PM

First: Did someone pay you to write that? We need to discern if there are people who are paid to plant negative extreme comments here. It somehow doesn’t seem like a true story.

Second: If it is true, your grandmother had at least one live child. For that you should be grateful.

Third: Your grandmother killed two women. Well, maybe a woman and a man, assuming we do not know the sex of the child.

Fourth: Maybe your grandmother needs compassionate forgiveness. We can assume she would have regretted it, if she had lived. The same people who would agree to killing the child, would hate it if the child were taught by an occasional spanking. Not consistent.

Fifth: Your story is not a good reason to vote for abortionists to continue their heartless jobs. Abortionists are the most violent people on the earth. Why should we give them a license to practice? Why should we vote for politicians who like partial birth abortion, and do not like parental notification for minors, and want to give Banned Parenthood public funds, and who does not want to enforce statutory rape laws? Your story is not a good reason to vote for anyone who has ever supported those things. Their logic is never to be trusted.

barbwire on January 21, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Ron Paul is beginning to look good.

barbwire on January 21, 2012 at 3:38 PM

Thank God we have welfare to help mothers who can’t afford to feed their babies. Thank God it provides free health care and education too.

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c.j.ammenheuser on January 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM

C.J. Ammenheuser trolls for the DNC. Check.

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Exactly. My grandmother didn’t have the money to feed another baby. Sophie’s Choice I guess you could say. To save the two children she had, she aborted the third. After her death, her children were “sold” off as servants as a way to be fed.
I don’t approve of state funded abortion. In fact I’m extremely against it. You should consider using your brain before you insult someone
c.j.ammenheuser on January 21, 2012 at 2:59 PM

The Lord will provide. He always takes care of His own. Nothing against your Grandmother- I’m just saying that as humans, sometimes we rely on ourselves too much instead of trusting in God.

AZgranny on January 21, 2012 at 3:41 PM

Gingrich is fat, ugly, a cheat, liar, anti-capitalist, sleeps with Pelosi, shoulder to shoulder with economy killer Freddie mac, pro-lobbying, etc…

rubberneck on January 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM

But you’ll vote for him in the general, right?

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 3:43 PM

You’re right of course. Personal responsibility is a thing of the past, and we should have babies even if we can’t afford to feed them.

I am sorry and understand the circumstances of your grandmother and the struggles of such decision(s) because it happens to other women too.

BUT that’s the whole point of conservatism, from head to toe, from dollars to cents, from housing to economy, from jobs to education:

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IS WHAT MUST BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE FOREFRONT IN THIS COUNTRY!!!!

ProudPalinFan on January 21, 2012 at 3:43 PM

You’re right of course. Personal responsibility is a thing of the past, and we should have babies even if we can’t afford to feed them.

So, if we don’t have the money to feed the babies, we should kill them?

Left-wing logic is an oxymoron.

TitularHead on January 21, 2012 at 3:44 PM

God forbid that we should actually get a Republican candidate who actually likes espousing conservative principles.

Gladtobehere on January 21, 2012 at 3:28 PM

Gingrich had his chance to serve this country honorably as third in line to the presidency. He violated that trust and was forced from the congress.

Newt Gingrich does not deserve another chance to serve this country. Especially as the president of the United States.

And Romney is going to make him choke on it too.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Hate to be blunt… but what “personal responsibility” really means is:

If you can’t afford to feed a baby, keep your pants zipped, or your legs together. This ain’t rocket science.

TitularHead on January 21, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Who threw a turd on you?

Like taking the occupy Wall St. stance on capital investments? Or like working for Freddy Mac? Or working with Pelosi on “global warming”? Or cheating on one wife after another? Or like being on all sides of any given issue whenever it’s convenient?
Gingrich is no conservative. He’s a beltway politician.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 3:34 PM

The turd is the healthcare mandate which Mittens still supports. Obamacare could, all by itself, bankrupt America. Mittens can’t repudiate Obamacare in a credible way because of Romneycare. If Mittens is our candidate, you can expect he won’t fight to repeal Obamacare if he gets elected. It would be like killing his own children.

Newt is still more consistent than the flip-flopping, Meghan Romney.

Gladtobehere on January 21, 2012 at 3:48 PM

And Romney is going to make him choke on it too.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM

And you’re gonna help him, by gad.

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 3:54 PM

Exactly. My grandmother didn’t have the money to feed another baby. Sophie’s Choice I guess you could say. To save the two children she had, she aborted the third. After her death, her children were “sold” off as servants as a way to be fed.
I don’t approve of state funded abortion. In fact I’m extremely against it. You should consider using your brain before you insult someone

c.j.ammenheuser on January 21, 2012 at 2:59 PM

Congrats. Your grandmother killed her third baby. Plain and simple. Stop playing the sob story. The baby was murdered. Ever hear of this thing called adoption?

Pull your head out of your backside.

And glad you’re against taxpayer funded abortions, b/c they’re paid for by taxpayers under Romneycare.

I assume you’ll no longer be supporting Mittens?

LevinFan on January 21, 2012 at 3:55 PM

Newt Gingrich does not deserve another chance to serve this country. Especially as the president of the United States.

And Romney is going to make him choke on it too.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Didn’t you see what the other Romneybot wrote? We musn’t allow our delicate and fragile Romney to get “bruised.” Making Romney do anything so violent as forcing someone to choke would “bruise” his effete soul.

Gladtobehere on January 21, 2012 at 3:56 PM

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c.j.ammenheuser on January 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM

Sounds like Hotair just isn’t for you.

Why don’t ya do us all a favor and leave??

Hint: Stop using liberal arguments and accusing conservatives of not being “open minded” to the murder of babies.

LevinFan on January 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM

I don’t see what’s courageous about pledging to vote REpublican no matter who the nominee is. Loyalty Oaths are for Stalinists, not free thinking Americans.

Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 3:03 PM

The votes of the Stalinists are what got us into this mess.

My stand is less about a ‘loyality Oath’ (I’m an independent BTW) than it is about a sensible path to the retrun of the U.S. as a truly great nation. At this time, the best firat step is to get rid of Obama. 3rd party = Dem win…it’s that simple.

As a bona-fide free thinking American, I prefer to attempt to fix what’s broken (even if it takes a long time) rather than court a war between liberals and conservatives.

Anti_anti on January 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM

Re.Gladtobehere

The turd is the healthcare mandate which Mittens still supports. Obamacare could, all by itself, bankrupt America

Romney has vowed to repeal Obamacare.

If Mittens is our candidate, you can expect he won’t fight to repeal Obamacare if he gets elected.

Romney has vowed to repeal Obamacare.

Newt is still more consistent than the flip-flopping, Meghan Romney.

The only things he has consistently done is cheat on wives and take money from democrats.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 3:59 PM

Newt is by far the best movement conservative we have left in the race.

While Reagan was running for office, Newt was asking him to entertain giving a speech at the NAACP which could have gone a long way to cutting the devotion that has only increased since then they have for the Democrat party. Now Blacks being Democrats is a generational thing, which it was just starting to become when Regan ran for office.

While Reagan was in office, Newt was to his right on the budget.

While G.H.W. Bush was getting ready to renege his “Read My Lips, No New Taxes” pledge, Newt was there telling him it was suicidal and a Democrat trap to make him a one term president.

All through all of these things, Newt was looking long term in forming for the first time in over a generation a Republican resurgence which he completed with Contract with America.

All of the establishment power hungry Republicans thought it was a ploy to get power and once in power they would go back to business as usual and use the power of the government for their own ends.

When Newt, as Speaker of the House took his vision to the American People through national speeches similar to the State of the Union Addresses, something the Speakership had not done in 100 years, he forced them to vote away their power, and the first chance they got to get rid of Newt they did.

Newt, after being in Washington for many years remained a movement conservative, and does so today. Newt took power away from Washington, and those in Washington and their allies refuse to allow him to win the nomination and they will burn any number of bridges to make sure it does not happen.

Anyone wonder why they love the Willard Mitt Romney? Because he will allow them to continue to take power away from the American Citizen for their own uses. Has Willard Mitt Romney ever shown he would do otherwise?

astonerii on January 21, 2012 at 3:59 PM

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 3:46 PM

Didn’t see your response to my question:

If Newt is the nominee will you vote for him against Maobama?

LevinFan on January 21, 2012 at 4:00 PM

Romney has vowed to repeal Obamacare.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 3:59 PM

And being an honorable, upstanding man of impeccable character, he would never, never violate that pledge, because that would require him to change his position on the issue.

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Re.astonerii

Newt is by far the best movement conservative we have left in the race.

Just ask him, he’ll tell you.

While Reagan was running for office, Newt was asking him to entertain giving a speech at the NAACP which could have gone a long way to cutting the devotion that has only increased since then they have for the Democrat party. Now Blacks being Democrats is a generational thing, which it was just starting to become when Regan ran for office.

Blacks voted democrat since the GOP opposed the civil rights act in the ’60s. Blacks voted democrat for decades before Reagan. Reagan didn’t go pander to the NAACP, Gingrich is excellent at pandering.

While Reagan was in office, Newt was to his right on the budget.

Provide some evidence.

All of the establishment power hungry Republicans thought it was a ploy to get power and once in power they would go back to business as usual and use the power of the government for their own ends.

Who are these “establishment power hungry Republicans”?

When Newt, as Speaker of the House took his vision to the American People through national speeches similar to the State of the Union Addresses, something the Speakership had not done in 100 years, he forced them to vote away their power, and the first chance they got to get rid of Newt they did.

This just doesn’t correspond to reality.

Newt, after being in Washington for many years remained a movement conservative,

By taking money from Freddy mac, cheating on his wives and pimping global warming…

Anyone wonder why they love the Willard Mitt Romney? Because he will allow them to continue to take power away from the American Citizen for their own uses.

WHO IS THEY? Specifically?

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Provide some evidence.

Reagans’s diary.

astonerii on January 21, 2012 at 4:08 PM

And being an honorable, upstanding man of impeccable character, he would never, never violate that pledge, because that would require him to change his position on the issue.

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 4:05 PM

As opposed to Gingrich? Really? How many pledges has he broken? Where has Romney provably lied? Seriously, educate me. I can point to broken pledges in Gingriches life. Can you do the same with Romney?

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Provide some evidence.

Reagans’s diary.

astonerii on January 21, 2012 at 4:08 PM

Where, specifically. I just looked at it the other day when it was brought up in the debates and only found 1 reference to Neut..

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:11 PM

Romney has vowed to repeal Obamacare.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 3:59 PM

I don’t believe him.

Romney is on your side until he wakes up and joins the opposition. Romney is one of the most opportunistic politicians I’ve ever seen. He reminds me of Dukakis and Kerry, Liberal Massachusetts politicians who pretended to be more conservative while running for the presidency. Massachusetts politicians have to do that because Massachusetts is to the left of most of America.

If he gets the nomination, I’ll hold my nose and vote for him. But I don’t trust him at all.

Gladtobehere on January 21, 2012 at 4:13 PM

As opposed to Gingrich? Really? How many pledges has he broken? Where has Romney provably lied? Seriously, educate me. I can point to broken pledges in Gingriches life. Can you do the same with Romney?

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:08 PM

I’m not doing your research for you, Sport. But you could start with Glad’s statement above and move from there. Maybe you are innocent enough to believe that Mitt hasn’t done the Flipper routine, but I’m afraid you are in for some shocks. Hang in there.

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 4:17 PM

Re.Gladtobehere

Romney has vowed to repeal Obamacare.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 3:59 PM

I don’t believe him.

Yet you believe Gingrich evidentially. Seriously and without hostility: I have been asking people if they can point to some pledge or promise that Romney has broken and I have yet to hear anything.

If he gets the nomination, I’ll hold my nose and vote for him. But I don’t trust him at all.

I will do the same with Gingrich, but he provably has broken promises. Further, I strongly, strongly doubt he can win a general election and it is SO important that we get rid of Obama that It seems crazy to me to tale the risk on someone like Gingrich who, again, isn’t even a conservative, just because he can slap around the media.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Gingrich is fat, ugly, a cheat, liar, anti-capitalist, sleeps with Pelosi, shoulder to shoulder with economy killer Freddie mac, pro-lobbying, etc…

rubberneck on January 21, 2012 at 3:35 PM

But you’ll vote for him in the general, right?

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 3:43 PM

I’m sure by the time the election rolls around my feelings for Obama and his leadership will probably trump Newt’s many flaws….although, kinda of shocking the first lady would be some gold digging ho, but hey, she keeps quiet.

rubberneck on January 21, 2012 at 4:24 PM

As a bona-fide free thinking American, I prefer to attempt to fix what’s broken (even if it takes a long time) rather than court a war between liberals and conservatives.

Anti_anti on January 21, 2012 at 3:58 PM

You are just babbling nonsense now.

Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 4:25 PM

I scoff and smirk and sneer when i see the Romney SuperFans tell us that the serial flip flopper never breaks his word.

Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Blacks voted democrat since the GOP opposed the civil rights act in the ’60s. Blacks voted democrat for decades before Reagan.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:06 PM

Absolutely not true. Most Republicans voted for civil rights legislation. The strongest voting block against civil rights were the Southern Democrats.

What changed the Black vote was the massive expansion of the welfare state in the 1960′s. Basically, the Black vote was bought by the Democratic party. Then to seal the deal, the Republicans were called RAAAACCIST whenever they tried to scale back the welfare state. Obama didn’t invent the tactic of playing the race card. He just uses what’s been around since the 1960′s.

Gladtobehere on January 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Re.spiritof61

I’m not doing your research for you, Sport.

So you can’t back your assertion. OK.

But you could start with Glad’s statement above and move from there.

I addressed it.

Maybe you are innocent enough to believe that Mitt hasn’t done the Flipper routine…

He’s a weasel politician. They all are. I am of the opinion that he stands the best chance of defeating Obama but I wouldn’t want any of them with me on a long car trip. OK? The question was, where has Romney provably broken a promise or a pledge? Where has he said he was going to do something and then didn’t do it?

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM

Reagan mentions Newt in his diary and states taht Newt proposed a spending freeze. Reagan opposed that b/c it would prevent his military buildup.

Is that supposed to be some kind of tough criticism of Newt? That he proposed a spending freeze, in this era of crushing debt and bloated budgets? Reagan should have been stronger on spending than he was.

Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Absolutely not true. Most Republicans voted for civil rights legislation. The strongest voting block against civil rights were the Southern Democrats. -Gladtobehere

Correct, I had conflated the Great Society Programs with the civil rights act. My apologies. The point was, however, that Blacks were on board with the Democrats before Reagan ran for office and not going to the NAACP had nothing to do with it.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:30 PM

And the moby is still at it I see.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 3:23 PM

You are a dork. It’s like you want to have sex with Romney..you take my criticisms of the man way too personally.

Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Where, specifically. I just looked at it the other day when it was brought up in the debates and only found 1 reference to Neut..

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:11 PM

That would be the one. Where Newt said there should be a total stop in spending increases and Reagan was unwilling to go with that. Reagan wanted the military build up.

astonerii on January 21, 2012 at 4:30 PM

So conservatives shoudln’t vote for Newt b/c he proposed a spending freeze in the 1980s? That kind of seems like a conservative idea to me.

Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 4:31 PM

He’s a weasel politician. They all are. I am of the opinion that he stands the best chance of defeating Obama but I wouldn’t want any of them with me on a long car trip. OK? The question was, where has Romney provably broken a promise or a pledge? Where has he said he was going to do something and then didn’t do it?

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM

I’m glad that you have the integrity to freely admit that Mitt is a weasel. That’s a start. I hold no brief for Newt or any of the candidates at this time. I do clearly believe that Newt is the best one to face Obama in November, though. I am compelled like everyone else to vote against Obama so my vote goes to the GOP nominee regardless, unless it’s the Doctor.

However, you ask if Romney broke a campaign promise, seemingly with the premise that he never lies or breaks his vows. Now before you hit Google and scroll through his opponents charges, consider this: If he is a weasel politician why should you even expect for a moment that he wouldn’t break his pledges?

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Reagan mentions Newt in his diary and states taht Newt proposed a spending freeze. Reagan opposed that b/c it would prevent his military buildup.

Is that supposed to be some kind of tough criticism of Newt? That he proposed a spending freeze, in this era of crushing debt and bloated budgets?
Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 4:27 PM

We were in the middle of the cold war. Reagan’s buildup bankrupted the Soviets.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:34 PM

So conservatives shoudln’t vote for Newt b/c he proposed a spending freeze in the 1980s? That kind of seems like a conservative idea to me.

Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Again, Moby, we were in the middle of the cold war. Maybe we should have just had peaceful coexistence with the Soviets?

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:36 PM

You are a dork. It’s like you want to have sex with Romney..

Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 4:30 PM

I’m not working your side of the street.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:37 PM

Don’t you want to know for yourself what Gingrich said to them? Supposed he totally agreed with what they were doing, and advised them to keep giving the loans. You want to put that type of guy in the white house?

I think it’s a legitimate question. Newt has been demanding to see Romney’s taxes, and everyone in here is piling on.

rubberneck on January 21, 2012 at 2:50 PM

I don’t care about Freddie Mac and Newt; I don’t care about Romney’s taxes or Bain Capital, good or bad. I care about their ideology and records in government. I notice Mittbots didn’t care too much about FM/FM or Newt’s line of credit at Tiffany’s until Gingrich took the lead on their cult leader.

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Yet you believe Gingrich evidentially. Seriously and without hostility: I have been asking people if they can point to some pledge or promise that Romney has broken and I have yet to hear anything.media.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Here’s a collection of Romney’s contradictions and flip-flops, click Mitt Romney – Serial Flip Flopper! I know that similar stuff has been posted here before (even by me), but here it is again.

As for Gingrich, he was a conservative reformer when he had power in the 80′s and 90′s. Since 2000, he’s badly slipped. He now says that he’s seen the light. I’m relying on his past conservative record and the hope that others can keep him on the straight and narrow.

Gladtobehere on January 21, 2012 at 4:40 PM

So conservatives shoudln’t vote for Newt b/c he proposed a spending freeze in the 1980s? That kind of seems like a conservative idea to me.

Dr. Tesla on January 21, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Again, Moby, we were in the middle of the cold war. Maybe we should have just had peaceful coexistence with the Soviets?

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Yeah, but it’s hilarious that you’re having to go back to the 1980s, while with Romney nothing prior to 2011 is relevant.

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Re.spiritof61

I’m glad that you have the integrity to freely admit that Mitt is a weasel

He’s a politician. Show me one who isn’t.

I do clearly believe that Newt is the best one to face Obama in November, though.

Not according to national polls. I admit that it would be nice to see them debate but there are only going to be 2 debates. I think we are underestimation the campaign that the Obama administration is going to put on and I think that is the way to get routed.

I am compelled like everyone else to vote against Obama so my vote goes to the GOP nominee regardless, unless it’s the Doctor.

Agreed, 100%.

consider this: If he is a weasel politician why should you even expect for a moment that he wouldn’t break his pledges?

I think there is a distinction between weasel an liar. I think weasel is par for the course. When people say they don’t believe Romney versus Gingrich I can only think that if I had a gun to my head I would take the word of a weasel over a liar.
A sad state of affairs but that is the terrain in which we find ourselves.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:43 PM

I am of the opinion that he stands the best chance of defeating Obama

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:26 PM

He stands the best chance of beating Obama but yet can’t get past a bunch of relative nobodies and has-beens in the primaries. Riiiiiiiight.

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Newt is a manic depressive lunatic who has a sharp mind and even sharper tongue. That makes him an entertaining pundit, but an absolute horrible manager and leader. His is a dangerous finger to put near the big red button. Suicidal comes to mind.

ray on January 21, 2012 at 4:45 PM

hotairhead

Thanks, you work at it until May, you and other Laup Nor’s show your support for Romney, that should pull Newt another 5% of support.

Some do consider the source.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on January 21, 2012 at 2:53 PM

No offense… but there are 564 delegates that Gingrich (and Santorum) will not earn, because they missed the ballots in key states. Only Ron Paul and Romney are on the ballot in all 50 states.

hotairhead on January 21, 2012 at 4:46 PM

What you got to say now V7 Sport??

Still going to say Mittens is not a flip flopper??

I’ve thought I’ve heard it all too, a Mittbot saying he’s not a Flip Flopper LOL

Thank for the laugh —- hey even Mittbots have to be good for something!

LevinFan on January 21, 2012 at 4:49 PM

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 3:54 PM

I am sickened that those who support Gingrich have the arrogance to believe that he has the credibility to be in a contest to represent the party of Lincoln and Reagan. His participation is an insult to all the fine men and women who honor the party with their ethical service. In very stark contrast to the corruption that Gingrich represents, Santorum, Paul, and Romney have honored the sacred trust the public has given to them.

Gingrich and his supporters are absolutely despicable.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Re.Gladtobehere

Here’s a collection of Romney’s contradictions and flip-flops, click Mitt Romney – Serial Flip Flopper! I know that similar stuff has been posted here before (even by me), but here it is again.

Come on, a youtube campaign commercial? Please friend, don’t make your decisions based on that. Again, where has he lied?

As for Gingrich, he was a conservative reformer when he had power in the 80′s and 90′s. Since 2000, he’s badly slipped. He now says that he’s seen the light.

Ted Bundy said he saw the light as well. Neut says a lot of things that an’t exactly congruent with “seeing the light”. Amnesty, the leftist attacks on Bain, etc.

” I’m relying on his past conservative record and the hope that others can keep him on the straight and narrow”

Do you think he can win in a general election, against an opponent who has a billion dollars and the media in his pocket? Do you think the Wilford Brimley routine of “get off my lawn” is going to play in the general election when he gets asked a question that’s uncomfortable to answer?

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:53 PM

No offense… but there are 564 delegates that Gingrich (and Santorum) will not earn, because they missed the ballots in key states. Only Ron Paul and Romney are on the ballot in all 50 states.

hotairhead on January 21, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Heck, the way Romney’s going that probably wouldn’t be a break for him. Paul would probably end up being the nominee.

I mean, think about it: a year ago would you have thought that Newt Gingrich would be challenging that supposedly mighty Romney operation? Newt Gingrich????

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 4:53 PM

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM

You need to work on your subtlety, bro.

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Gingrich and his supporters are absolutely despicable.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM

While Romney’s smear-artist cultists are the salt of the earth. Right.

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Yeah, but it’s hilarious that you’re having to go back to the 1980s, while with Romney nothing prior to 2011 is relevant.
ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 4:42 PM

That was in answer to someone else’s question. I never wrote that Romney’s record before 2011 wasn’t relevant.

He stands the best chance of beating Obama but yet can’t get past a bunch of relative nobodies and has-beens in the primaries. Riiiiiiiight.

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Not sure what your point is there. We have something of a history of shooting ourselves in the foot during the primaries because we aren’t focused on the general election.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:57 PM

I don’t believe him.

Gladtobehere on January 21, 2012 at 4:13 PM

Then you certainly don’t believe Gingrich. He actually has been sanctioned for unethical behavior and for lying to his fellow house members. And he didn’t do this as some junior congressman, he did it as the Speaker of the House! Second in line if something were to incapacitate the president.

I look forward to your support in making sure he doesn’t besmirch the Grand Old Party any further than he already has by calling for him to end his campaign immediately out of respect for the honorable people of this country. We deserve a better representative who already blew his chance to prove himself worthy.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Santorum, Paul, and Romney have honored the sacred trust the public has given to them. csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM

Well, Romney has not. Maybe he’s not got a bad marriage story. But he’s got a bad policy history. Looks like Santorum and Paul. Paul is on all of the ballots. He’s looking pretty consistent. I know he’s not TV handsome, and he speaks not with a movie-star style. But Paul’s right. It’s taken me a long time to decide this. Ron Paul trusts us with complicated ideas. Like audit the Fed. Like why do we still need the 14th ammendment? Like Congress is supposed to declare wars. He doesn’t wet his finger, and stick it up into the wind, and then decide his policy statements. He’s willing to stand alone. He’s willing to see the other side of the story. He’s willing to go by the Constitution. Paul’s got a good marriage history. If he can take care of his family, that’s a major plus. Gingrich is not on all of the state’s ballots. Gingrich should VP or chief advisor.

barbwire on January 21, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Gingrich and his supporters are absolutely despicable.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM.

It is said that a man is known by his enemies, as well as his friends.

I’m glad that your kind are not on my side.

TitularHead on January 21, 2012 at 4:59 PM

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Anyone who supports a politician who has already proven he cannot be trusted with the public’s faith, are as despicable as that politician.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 4:59 PM

You need to work on your subtlety, bro.

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 4:55 PM

If you support Gingrich, you need to work on your sense of honor.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:00 PM

Not sure what your point is there. We have something of a history of shooting ourselves in the foot during the primaries because we aren’t focused on the general election.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Meh, I dunno. Those that lose lose for a reason.

In very stark contrast to the corruption that Gingrich represents, Santorum, Paul, and Romney have honored the sacred trust the public has given to them.

Gingrich and his supporters are absolutely despicable.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 4:52 PM

“Corruption”? What actual corruption? Gingrich’s time in government was more effective from a conservative standpoint than Romney’s ever was. Face it. You’re another one of the Romney cultists. If Santorum or Paul were threatening Romney one of them would be The Worst Person In The World.

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 5:01 PM

I’m glad that your kind are not on my side.

TitularHead on January 21, 2012 at 4:59 PM

If you’re a Gingrich supporter, I am as happy as you are that I am not on your side.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:01 PM

“Corruption”? What actual corruption?

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 5:01 PM

I’m not surprised that a dishonored filth like you would try to nuance Gingrich’s sanction for unethical behavior and lying to his fellow house members.

You sicken me.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Win/win then. Because your kind are the real enemy of conservatism.

TitularHead on January 21, 2012 at 5:04 PM

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:53 PM

You asked for flip flops, I gave you flip flops. If you won’t accept it, do your own research. I don’t have the time to write you something now.

Gladtobehere on January 21, 2012 at 5:04 PM

He stands the best chance of beating Obama but yet can’t get past a bunch of relative nobodies and has-beens in the primaries. Riiiiiiiight.

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Not sure what your point is there.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 4:57 PM

My point, by the way, is that Romney is a weak-ass candidate with no real base of support. You’re counting on an anti-Obama vote in the fall coupled with all these glowing predictions of Romney’s sure-fire win over Obama because all the polls told you so. Meanwhile he’s so disliked by the base of his own party that Zombie Nixon could call himself NotRomney and take a lead over Mitt in the polls.

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 5:05 PM

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Is that you, Sununu?

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 5:06 PM

Win/win then. Because your kind are the real enemy of conservatism.

TitularHead on January 21, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Screwed that quote thing up… but he knows who I’m talking to.

TitularHead on January 21, 2012 at 5:07 PM

I’m not surprised that a dishonored filth like you would try to nuance Gingrich’s sanction for unethical behavior and lying to his fellow house members.

You sicken me.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:03 PM

ROFL…Mittbot Meltdown is glorious to behold…

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 5:08 PM

You asked for flip flops, I gave you flip flops. If you won’t accept it, do your own research. I don’t have the time to write you something now.

Gladtobehere on January 21, 2012 at 5:04 PM

I asked for outright lies. My point has been that both are politicians, but Gingrich has been the liar. I understand what you are saying Gladtobehere, it’s hard to trust any of them. However, I really want Obama defeated.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Win/win then. Because your kind are the real enemy of conservatism.

TitularHead on January 21, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Your support of a liar and a cheat makes you unworthy to be an American.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Just between us Dishonored Filth: Is csdeven losing it?

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 5:11 PM

If you’re a Gingrich supporter, I am as happy as you are that I am not on your side.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:01 PM

That’s not going to get us to where we need to go. Besides, disagreement isn’t a character flaw.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 5:12 PM

Just between us Dishonored Filth: Is csdeven losing it?

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Oh, csdeven went around the bend a loooooong time ago.

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Your support of a liar and a cheat makes you unworthy to be an American.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Yee Haw!!! You go… don’t forget, I’m probably raaaacist too.

Don’t forget that one.

TitularHead on January 21, 2012 at 5:13 PM

If you’re a Gingrich supporter, I am as happy as you are that I am not on your side.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Well darn it, csdeven, if that idol of yours were a better candidate then Gingrich wouldn’t be a factor, would he? Now if Gingrich wins this thing tonight, Romney HAS to win Florida.

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 5:17 PM

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 5:08 PM

The entire group knows what you are. You went from a vocal defender of Palin as a champion against corruption in her own party to a slimy hypocrite who carries the baggage for a disgraced corrupt politician.

Any credibility you might have had, is completely gone.

Have a nice life.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:17 PM

Just between us Dishonored Filth: Is csdeven losing it?

spiritof61 on January 21, 2012 at 5:11 PM

Oh, csdeven went around the bend a loooooong time ago.

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 5:13 PM

Actually, I think he’s a fine example of a Romney supported. He’s perfectly suited to care that flag. I don’t care what any of you say about him.

TitularHead on January 21, 2012 at 5:17 PM

By the way, if Gingrich does win tonight I wonder how nasty Team Romney and the Mittbot myrmidons are going to get in advance of the FL primary?

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 5:18 PM

The entire group knows what you are. You went from a vocal defender of Palin as a champion against corruption in her own party to a slimy hypocrite who carries the baggage for a disgraced corrupt politician.

Any credibility you might have had, is completely gone.

Have a nice life.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:17 PM

LOL…I’ve said quite a few times I don’t like either Gingrich or Romney. It’s the Mittbot false dichotomy: if you don’t support Mitt, you must be supporting their demon-of-the-moment.

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM

You can try to deflect it, but you whole heartily supported pro ethics Palin and now you are whole heartily supporting disgraced unethical liar Gingrich.

It’s typical of you dishonored scum to think standing up for ethics is wrong. And the entirety of Hot Air can see it.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:21 PM

Re.ddrintn

My point, by the way, is that Romney is a weak-ass candidate with no real base of support.

Well, that’s not quite true. He has the most money, he’s on all the ballots. (As opposed to Gingrich who couldn’t get on the ballot in his home state) and he has always polled in the 30% area as his base. According to national polls he is the best chance the GOP has to beat Obama, which should be the primary goal, IMHO.

You’re counting on an anti-Obama vote in the fall

What I am counting on is the Democrats, the Unions, the Soros foundations, et al shoveling over a billion dollars into the campaign to slander and destroy any of their opponents. I think that Gingrich has already provided them with anything they need to do the job.

Meanwhile he’s so disliked by the base of his own party

Last time around I was told we had to go through carter to get to Reagan… Still no Reagan. This all or nothing mentality is going to get us nothing every time.

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 5:23 PM

You can try to deflect it, but you whole heartily supported pro ethics Palin and now you are whole heartily supporting disgraced unethical liar Gingrich.

“Whole heartily” (sic) supporting Gingrich? ROFL… No I’m not.

It’s typical of you dishonored scum to think standing up for ethics is wrong. And the entirety of Hot Air can see it.

csdeven on January 21, 2012 at 5:21 PM

ROFL…this is too good…

ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 5:23 PM

LOL…I’ve said quite a few times I don’t like either Gingrich or Romney.
ddrintn on January 21, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Who then?

V7_Sport on January 21, 2012 at 5:24 PM

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