Jobless claims drop to 352K, but housing starts drop as well

posted at 9:15 am on January 19, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Two economic indicators delivered unexpected results, but in opposite directions.  First, the number of weekly initial jobless claims fell a stunning 50,000 to 352K, the lowest level in almost four years:

In the week ending January 14, the advance figure for seasonally adjusted initial claims was 352,000, a decrease of 50,000 from the previous week’s revised figure of 402,000. The 4-week moving average was 379,000, a decrease of 3,500 from the previous week’s revised average of 382,500.

The advance seasonally adjusted insured unemployment rate was 2.7 percent for the week ending January 7, a decrease of 0.2 percentage point from the prior week’s unrevised rate.

The advance number for seasonally adjusted insured unemployment during the week ending January 7, was 3,432,000, a decrease of 215,000 from the preceding week’s revised level of 3,647,000. The 4-week moving average was 3,576,250, a decrease of 34,000 from the preceding week’s revised average of 3,610,250.

That’s a pretty dramatic drop, and a change in the opposite direction one would expect for the end of seasonal hiring if the seasonal adjustments were off, as some suspected.  Not surprisingly, Reuters is rather stoked about the news:

New applications for unemployment benefits dropped to a near four-year low last week, a government report on Thursday showed, pointing to continued improvement in the labor market.

The Labor Department said initial claims for state unemployment benefits dropped 50,000 to 352,000, the lowest level since April 2008 and the biggest drop since September 2005. The prior claims data was revised up to 402,000 from the previously reported 399,000.

Economists polled by Reuters had expected claims to fall only to 385,000. Last week’s claims data covered the survey period for January nonfarm payrolls and claims dropped by 14,000 between the December and January survey periods.

A single week is nothing to get excited about, but the previous week’s 402,000 looks more like an outlier in the series, which had been moving to a range of around 360-370K in the weeks preceding it.  That’s better than the 400K range we had for most of 2011, but it’s still above the level correlating to sustained and significant job creation, which is around 325K.  We’ll see what the next few weeks bring, but watch the 4-week moving average, which tends to wring out the momentary swings and give a better picture of the series results.

Meanwhile, the housing market provided a dash of cold water today:

 Housing starts fell in December asgroundbreaking on rental property posted a big decline, splashing some cold water on hopes the still-weak housing sector could boost economic growth this year.

The Commerce Department said on Thursday housing starts fell 4.1 percent to a seasonally adjusted annual rate of 657,000 units.

Economists polled by Reuters had forecast housing starts edging down to a 680,000-unit rate in December.

Rental properties had been a relatively active market over the last few years, thanks to the demand created by people who can’t afford to buy a home any longer.  This could be a problem if it becomes a sustained pattern, especially if foreclosures continue to rise.


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I wonder if Obama is envious?

pat on May 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Obama can offer some tips on how to jump start a country..

No..
Seriously..

Electrongod on May 15, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Maybe it is time to look at the Socialist Ideology behind their economic policies…?

Seven Percent Solution on May 15, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Guess I’d better get rid of those euros that I have left from my trip to Ireland in March, eh?

Bob's Kid on May 15, 2013 at 9:26 PM

BREAKING:

Other People’s money runs out; EU in decline.

BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 9:27 PM

I wonder if Obama is envious?

pat on May 15, 2013 at 9:25 P

I wonder if Obama knows.

Well, it is on the news so there’s a chance.

BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 9:28 PM

“The misery continues,” said Carsten Brzeski, a senior economist at ING in Brussels. “Almost all core countries bar Germany are in recession and so far nothing has helped in stopping this downward spiral.

Huh, maybe someone should’ve warned them or something.

squint on May 15, 2013 at 9:33 PM

As Maggie Thatcher was wont to say, “Sooner or later they run out of other peoples money.”

Screw the EU…

Scrumpy on May 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I wonder if Obama is envious?

pat on May 15, 2013 at 9:25 P

I wonder if Obama knows.

Well, it is on the news so there’s a chance.

BobMbx on May 15, 2013 at 9:28 PM

…JugEars:like everything else…”I first learned about this…from news reports…like everybody else!”

KOOLAID2 on May 15, 2013 at 9:41 PM

Once upon a time, America had an economy strong enough to lead the world out of recessions.

Then, Progressives came along and America changed.

MTF on May 15, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Hmmmm…..seems all that “free stuff” in the EU wasn’t “free” after all.

Is Barry taking notes?

GarandFan on May 15, 2013 at 9:48 PM

You know it is time for personal intervention when you are reading about economics and politics on HA while the tornado sirens are blaring outside.

Limerick on May 15, 2013 at 9:49 PM

This isn’t good for North America, either.

rickv404 on May 15, 2013 at 9:50 PM

They need a real federal system like we have in the US. That way, the left can screw around until Mercedes looks like GM and Germany goes the way of Michigan.

Then they blame the Swiss or British investors and bankers.

They don’t have our racism but with a little imagination they can whip up a decent copy in reliving wars or soccer games which didn’t work out like they wanted. Ok, it is lame but their version of a Harley sounds like a sewing machine, anyway.

IlikedAUH2O on May 15, 2013 at 9:59 PM

The only way for the Euroweenies to get out of these awful economic doldrums is to raise taxes.

SparkPlug on May 15, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Downward spiral? Wait till they hit Barock bottom.

SparkPlug on May 15, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Womp: Eurozone dragging into its sixth straight quarter of recession

Green shoots!!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 15, 2013 at 10:02 PM

According to polling data just released from Pew, support for the European Union and the common currency is quickly souring across much of Europe;

I find this bit of “news” interesting because there was never much popular support for the EU. They had to stop holding referenda for their retarded Constitution because it went down in flames the few times it was tried (so they then snuck it in by calling it the Lisbon TREATY, instead … and as a TREATY it didn’t need a plebiscite … yup).

Maybe support has dipped even further but the EU was never able to withstand any popular vote. Heck, in Britain they made a sport of intentionally not letting anyone vote on anything about it.

All that said, Eurotrash is just doing what Eurotrash does … killing themselves and destroying everything within arm’s length of them. They’ve been pulling this destructive suicidal junk for almost a century, now.

Let us not forget that Barky was always a bigger hit in Europe than he ever was, here. Heck, the biggest political rally (possibly in history) was Barky’s illegal, un-Constitutional, un-American and offensive Berlin rally for Germans. Barky never should have been allowed to return to the US after that. The Eurotrash loved him … they should have been forced to keep the retard.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on May 15, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Can I buy Spain yet on Ebay?

Capitalist Hog on May 15, 2013 at 10:11 PM

How long before they change the EU to eewwww?

socalcon on May 15, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Just as a technical reminder – European GDP estimates are not annualized, so if one wants to compare it to what the BEA puts out there, multiply by 4 to get a close-enough-for-government-work approximation. That makes the overall rate -0.8%, and Germany’s rate +0.4%, on an annualized basis.

As for the continued German support for the pEU, they must be thinking that Brussels is once again in Greater Germany.

Steve Eggleston on May 15, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Can I buy Spain yet on Ebay?

Capitalist Hog on May 15, 2013 at 10:11 PM

S&H is going to kill you.

trigon on May 15, 2013 at 11:47 PM

As Maggie Thatcher was wont to say, “Sooner or later they run out of other peoples money.”

Screw the EU…

Scrumpy on May 15, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Totally agreed!!

jimver on May 16, 2013 at 2:10 AM

This isn’t good for North America, either.

rickv404 on May 15, 2013 at 9:50 PM

If we had accurate data, instead of politically massaged propaganda, we would see Europe is not alone.

dogsoldier on May 16, 2013 at 8:02 AM

Can I buy Spain yet on Ebay?

Capitalist Hog on May 15, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Not yet. But I wouldn’t say it’s impossible that we’ll see such a thing in our lifetimes.

We’re getting a front-row seat at the final stages of what happens to nations that subscribe to some moronic liberal sing-around-the-campfire version of international unity, with a generous dose of economic socialism used in the recipe.

MelonCollie on May 16, 2013 at 8:14 AM