Rubio: On second thought, SOPA/PIPA’s a bad idea
posted at 10:00 am on January 18, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
The SOPA/PIPA Internet blackout has delivered a message to at least one elected official in Washington, DC. Tea Party favorite Senator Marco Rubio announced a few minutes ago on his Facebook page that he has abandoned his support for the Senate PIPA bill and will ask Harry Reid to withdraw it. And considering that Rubio co-sponsored the PIPA bill, this is fairly significant news:
In recent weeks, we’ve heard from many Floridians about the anti-Internet piracy bills making their way through Congress. On the Senate side, I have been a co-sponsor of the PROTECT IP Act because I believe it’s important to protect American ingenuity, ideas and jobs from being stolen through Internet piracy, much of it occurring overseas through rogue websites in China. As a senator from Florida, a state with a large presence of artists, creators and businesses connected to the creation of intellectual property, I have a strong interest in stopping online piracy that costs Florida jobs.
However, we must do this while simultaneously promoting an open, dynamic Internet environment that is ripe for innovation and promotes new technologies.
Earlier this year, this bill passed the Senate Judiciary Committee unanimously and without controversy. Since then, we’ve heard legitimate concerns about the impact the bill could have on access to the Internet and about a potentially unreasonable expansion of the federal government’s power to impact the Internet. Congress should listen and avoid rushing through a bill that could have many unintended consequences.
Therefore, I have decided to withdraw my support for the Protect IP Act. Furthermore, I encourage Senator Reid to abandon his plan to rush the bill to the floor. Instead, we should take more time to address the concerns raised by all sides, and come up with new legislation that addresses Internet piracy while protecting free and open access to the Internet.
We’re not blacking out Hot Air today, but I did suspend the Obamateurism feature today to call attention to the protests. Those protests are definitely having an impact, although National Journal reported earlier today that Reid still wants to move PIPA to a floor vote:
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., appears intent on moving ahead with legislation that would provide new tools for curbing piracy and counterfeiting on foreign websites despite growing opposition that will culminate on Wednesday in an online protest by thousands of websites.
Reid announced last month that he intended to bring an intellectual-property bill known as the Protect IP Act to the Senate floor on Jan. 24 for a vote on whether to allow debate to begin on the legislation. Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., has been blocking the bill from moving to the floor since it was approved in May by the Judiciary Committee.
Now that one of the signatories to the bill has reversed course, it will make a floor vote even more problematic for Reid. Plus, it’s doubtful that a companion bill in the House will get produced at all, which would make this a fairly significant political risk with no payoff in the end, especially since the White House has openly expressed its own misgivings over the bill.
No one disputes the need to protect and defend copyrights. Most of the websites participating in this protest have an interest in battling piracy. The need to protect copyrights, however, does not outweigh the need for checks on prosecutorial power and due process for the accused. Rubio has belatedly gotten it right — Reid needs to pull back PIPA, the House needs to scratch SOPA, and both need to start over again in those efforts.









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So are the unconstitutional provisions of the NDAA.
FloatingRock on January 18, 2012 at 10:02 AM
Good for Rubio.
gophergirl on January 18, 2012 at 10:03 AM
Good belated move, Marco. Especially if Mittens comes calling in about 6 months asking for a favor.
Doughboy on January 18, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Everyone hates this bill, except the media/entertainment dinosaurs who don’t want to spend their own money to innovate how their products are produced and distributed.
Bishop on January 18, 2012 at 10:05 AM
99% of people have no idea what this is -
jake-the-goose on January 18, 2012 at 10:06 AM
SOPA, PIPA. PIPA, SOPA. Let’s call the whole thing off!
BacaDog on January 18, 2012 at 10:07 AM
If they would only THINK before coming up with these things.
katy the mean old lady on January 18, 2012 at 10:07 AM
Good.
Though I’d note the irony of people like Zuckerberg and the lefties at Google opposing government control of the internet but not government control of everything else (like health care, what lightbulbs we use, etc.)
amerpundit on January 18, 2012 at 10:08 AM
Knott Buyinit on January 18, 2012 at 10:09 AM
This would seem enough to get nearly unanimous Democrat support.
JimRich on January 18, 2012 at 10:10 AM
Will Allah suspend QOTD as well?
cmsinaz on January 18, 2012 at 10:11 AM
There’s a reason Ron Wyden is near as unbeatable a senator as you’ll find. He’s definitely a liberal, but he’s principled and willing to take unpopular stands, even within his own party.
sobincorporated on January 18, 2012 at 10:11 AM
Most of what Congress does has unintended dire consequences.
The budget, the military and infrastructure (interstate roads and bridges). That’s really all I want legislated. The rest is reactionary feel-good nonsense mixed with political payouts and/or paybacks.
Fallon on January 18, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Why did the supposed ‘conservative’ hero support this in the first place?
I’m telling you, something stinks about this fellow. Too many GOPers from Florida have complained about him all the way to his days on the Miami city council.
This guy is has rode the Tea Party wave to his election (hey, I’m glad he ousted Crist), but be weary of him actually caring about what he says are his beliefs.
Notorious GOP on January 18, 2012 at 10:12 AM
+100 ameripundit
cmsinaz on January 18, 2012 at 10:12 AM
http://www.keepthewebopen.com/
The OPEN ACT is a much more well thought out alternative to either SOPA or PIPA.
It does what is needed without the dangerous features of either of the other alternatives.
Face if if Chris Dodd is backing SOPA as new head of MPAA it should send up all sorts of red flags to look deeper in to what is involved.
CommentGuy on January 18, 2012 at 10:12 AM
Why did it take Rubio this long to oppose this is a terrible bill?
even the leftist from Oregon can see it’s terrible!
tetriskid on January 18, 2012 at 10:13 AM
i guess the email i sent him this morning worked. about time. the companies that donated to him to support sopa/pipa will not be happy…
kastor on January 18, 2012 at 10:14 AM
Rubio’s future is so bright – too bad we have to wait for the future.
jake-the-goose on January 18, 2012 at 10:14 AM
Flip Flopping?
Mitt’s running mate?
KOOLAID2 on January 18, 2012 at 10:14 AM
Remaining Senate co-sponsors:
Lamar Alexander TN
Kelly Ayotte NH
Michael Bennet CO
Jeff Bingaman NM
Richard Blumenthal CT
Roy Blunt MO
John Boozman AR
Barbara Boxer CA
Sherrod Brown OH
Ben Cardin MD
Robert Casey PA
Saxby Chambliss GA
Thad Cochran MS
Chris Coons DE
Bob Corker TN
Dick Durbin IL
Michael Enzi WY
Dianne Feinstein CA
Al Franken MN
Kirsten Gillibrand NY
Lindsey Graham SC
Chuck Grassley IA
Kay Hagan NC
Orrin Hatch UT
Johnny Isakson GA
Tim Johnson SD
Amy Klobuchar MN
Herb Kohl WI
Mary Landrieu LA
Joseph Lieberman CT
John McCain AZ
Robert Menendez NJ
Bill Nelson FL
James Risch ID
Marco Rubio FL
Chuck Schumer NY
Jeanne Shaheen NH
Tom Udall NM
David Vitter LA
Sheldon Whitehouse RI
ernesto on January 18, 2012 at 10:16 AM
Why any Republican would support a bill that mostly helps Hollywood and the entertainment industry is beyond me. No one wants copyright infringement and piracy, and it should be stopped, but I don’t want to do that at the cost of empowering both the left wing entertainment industry and the U.S. government. Just stupid…
William Eaton on January 18, 2012 at 10:18 AM
Rubio had an oooops moment now get over, people.
NickDeringer on January 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM
Why would Reid listen to the public outcry over this bill? That would be so unlike him, what with his handling of Obamacare and all.
NOMOBO on January 18, 2012 at 10:20 AM
In other news, the Fye Music at the local mall recently announced it is closing.
Streaming is the future. People aren’t going to pay for something they can download for free, but they will pay to stream it without storing it on their hard drives or a cloud somehwere.
Bills like this just prop up an outdated way of doing business – trying to sell physical and/or downloaded copies of music and movies. Crony capitalism at its best.
In the free market, companies like this who refuse to innovate shrivel and die – as they should. In America, we write bad bills that infringe on other people’s freedoms to benefit a few campaign contributors.
DRayRaven on January 18, 2012 at 10:21 AM
Speaking of Rubio…rumor has it he will be endorsing Mitt Romney on Monday.
JA on January 18, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Thank you Marco. You just saved me the trouble of contacting you about this terrible bill. Now on to Sen Bill Nelson and Rep Vern Buchanan…
ornery_independent on January 18, 2012 at 10:22 AM
No, Rubio had a consistent moment of being anti-free speech. His support of internet censorship followed his introduction to an unconstitutional bill that would have created “free of free speech zones”.
Rubio is a fraud.
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Could someone explain to me why we need MORE LAWS making piracy illegal? There are already tools in place to deal with piracy. Why are we not using those tools already available? Why is the alleged answer always, always, always more government intrusion instead of just utilizing the powers already granted?
ButterflyDragon on January 18, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Craigslist dark. That will get some attention!
katy the mean old lady on January 18, 2012 at 10:23 AM
This is not a reason to congratulate Rubio. The fact that he co-sponsored this bill in a first place is a bad sign of things to come. He either didn’t understand the over-reach of this bill or he is in the pocket of MPAA/RIAA, pick your poison.
Don’t even get me started on some of the provisions of NDAA.
–Sebis
sebis on January 18, 2012 at 10:23 AM
What’s wrong with PIPpA?
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VibrioCocci on January 18, 2012 at 10:23 AM
Yep. A big person and smart politician can change positions. There are flip-floppers that bent to every poll, but I think we make too much of them changing their positions in situation as Ri=ubio explained.
Rubio is more Conservative than Paul. That’s a fact. Paul’s voting record would actually leave much to imagine as to what his positions even are; considering how many votes he actually skips.
hawkdriver on January 18, 2012 at 10:24 AM
geez,
this situation as Rubio …
hawkdriver on January 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM
Ed continues to peddle this fallacy. I dispute the “need”, as do many others, to protect and defend copyrights, which are nothing but arbitrary, government-instituted monopolies of information.
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM
Rubio 2020!
thuja on January 18, 2012 at 10:25 AM
These Congresscritters need to be reminded that IP is to be protected for a ‘limited time’. Not the SCOTUS concept of ‘limited time’ which, to them, can mean a few billion years… but in the context of those which speak to make the Constitution what it is in the preamble: We the People.
Limited time is in the context of a person’s LIFE.
Not some universal limited time, but that invoked by the people who grant such power to Congress.
SOPA and PIPA would not be needed if Congress stuck to its actual job and kept a very strict limited time enforcement for IP, instead of this Life plus some decades that it has now… the first Congress had set it at something like 10 years plus 10 for a single renewal, and even up to the the pre-Life + decades for Disney protection it was at 16+16…
Corporations should not have enhanced IP protection over those who have a truly limited life: the people. The corporeal people, not the incorporated people.
ajacksonian on January 18, 2012 at 10:26 AM
That’s not a fact; that’s a laughable claim with no substance behind it.
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 10:26 AM
Yeesh. These guys better know something about Mittens that we don’t. Cuz if he goes on to win this thing and becomes a lousy middle-of-the-road(or even left-of-center) President, he’ll drag down a whole lot of Republicans with him.
Doughboy on January 18, 2012 at 10:27 AM
Great move by Rubio He realizes how toxic this bill is and is jumping ship before the it burns down around them.
I hope this is the first of many.
Blu3Yeti on January 18, 2012 at 10:28 AM
Dear Congress,
Just deal with the Chinese counterfeiting.
Keep the baby, not the bath water.
End of story.
FlaMurph on January 18, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Then you of all people should be comfortable with my reasoning.
hawkdriver on January 18, 2012 at 10:29 AM
Oh I get it: Changing positions is cool if they agree to switch to my position.
Notorious GOP on January 18, 2012 at 10:30 AM
Somehow when I hear “SOPA/PIPA” I think of fried dough with honey. (New Mexicans understand)
Uncledave on January 18, 2012 at 10:31 AM
You mean lack of reasoning.
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 10:31 AM
I Oppose SOPA, but PIPA I can get behind.
ornery_independent on January 18, 2012 at 10:31 AM
^^ Looking at that list above, Sen Rubio should have known he was on the wrong side. When you look around and see that you’re allies are mostly rabid big government leftists it’s time to rethink your position
Not-a-Marxist on January 18, 2012 at 10:34 AM
I don’t even have to click the link to know what that is
updog on January 18, 2012 at 10:34 AM
.
Don’t rule out Rubio for a potential Newty VP- Newty has just as many flip-flops as well-
Dontcha ya know !
FlaMurph on January 18, 2012 at 10:34 AM
Shocking.
Seriously though, I think Romney would be wise not to pick Rubio. The guy has only been in the Senate a little over a year.
McDuck on January 18, 2012 at 10:36 AM
Now that local car dealers are involved, there’s no way it can pass.
rogerb on January 18, 2012 at 10:36 AM
1. Protect the Constitution
Require each bill to identify the specific provision of the Constitution that gives Congress the power to do what the bill does.
From the Contract From America, signed by Marco Rubio.
Keeping his word on this pledge would have prevented this little snafu.
Naturally Curly on January 18, 2012 at 10:37 AM
I AM disappointed that it took a major protest from the interwebz for Rubio to realize that this might, maybe, possibly be a hell of a bad idea.
Good on Rubio for withdrawing support. But don’t let something like this happen again. Common sense should have prevented this in the first place.
Book on January 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM
one little victory, hurray!
nathor on January 18, 2012 at 10:40 AM
Kinda early in the day to be drinking, isn’t it?
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Flora Duh on January 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM
Nope. I don’t have an opinion on SOPA. I was referring to one position Rubio made a position change over and the reasoning he gave. If he changes back with a pole, I might get concerned.
Anything else?
hawkdriver on January 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM
This is precisely why I’ve been nervous about all these “RUBIO FOR VEEP!!!” calls. I think he needs some time to establish a national record first. His support for SOPA makes me very nervous about him, doubly so since he is the sole remaining Tea Party icon that hasn’t been tainted politically yet. West, Noem, Bachmann, and others have let us down.
Doomberg on January 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM
Point out instances.
hawkdriver on January 18, 2012 at 10:44 AM
What about his SB 888 snafu, and what provision did he cite for that one? You’d think “Congress shall make no law…” would be simple to understand.
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 10:44 AM
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 10:22 AM
Says one of Herr Doktor Ron Gerbil’s biggest shills.
annoyinglittletwerp on January 18, 2012 at 10:46 AM
poll …
hawkdriver on January 18, 2012 at 10:47 AM
I’m enjoying how some Left-leaning non-political sites I frequent are linking to the Heritage Foundation for explaining SOPA/PIPA.
visions on January 18, 2012 at 10:54 AM
Trust me, it’s a big fvcking deal. It is one of the most effective advertising tools in the real state business. Free ads that reach countless people in an area.
katy the mean old lady on January 18, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Beat me to it. :-)
Just Sayin on January 18, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Rubio likes him some RIAA money, too, but not so much as to give up on Tea Party contributions. The latter obviously come with less strings attached.
Archivarix on January 18, 2012 at 11:01 AM
Ron Paul is very weak in the defense/foreign policy leg of the conservative stool. I am willing to listen to arguments that there is a better way to handle the Iran situation than military action, but RP’s position is unacceptable. Iran cannot be allowed to have “the bomb”. In fact, with the possible exception of Japan, no one who doesn’t already have nuclear weapons should be allowed to have them.
McDuck on January 18, 2012 at 11:01 AM
I was sitting there with a bowl of Cheerios and no milk. Lo, there was th Jack Daniels bottle. I may be on to something.
katy the mean old lady on January 18, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Kinda early in the day to be drinking, isn’t it?
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Flora Duh on January 18, 2012 at 10:42 AM
I was sitting there with a bowl of Cheerios and no milk. Lo, there was th Jack Daniels bottle. I may be on to something.
katy the mean old lady on January 18, 2012 at 11:02 AM
I used Bailey’s because it tastes like chocolate milk.
annoyinglittletwerp on January 18, 2012 at 11:03 AM
Republicans flat out hate the internet since it was created by Al gore
liberal4life on January 18, 2012 at 11:04 AM
I thought that was the name of Katherine’s sister… the one with the fabulous derriere.
ultracon on January 18, 2012 at 11:08 AM
Wrong thread.
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Republicans flat out hate the internet since it was created by Al gore
liberal4life on January 18, 2012 at 11:04 AM
You invented crack.
annoyinglittletwerp on January 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Hey KTMOL, looks like we’ve got one who has hitting the bong a little early.
Flora Duh on January 18, 2012 at 11:10 AM
Why do I get the feeling you believe that?
katy the mean old lady on January 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM
LOL. Oops. You’re right. This is not the Iran thread.
McDuck on January 18, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Well, when you consider there are theories that Gore’s goal was to develop a method of p0rn transmission, it lends credibility to liberal4life ‘s assertion.
Crazed sex poodles, unite! oooohhhhhwwwwoooooo
hawkdriver on January 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Why should we hate the Internet? Sites like this are one of the best ways to combat the misstatements, evasions, misleading comments, and outright lies of the Obama administration.
Yeah, and he’s smoking his own product.
psrch on January 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Good move, Marco. Thank you!
Looking forward to voting for this man as prez some day.
petefrt on January 18, 2012 at 11:22 AM
Excellent. I checked out Wikipedia’s page and it is beautifully done. It is informative and you just punch in your zip for contact info for your reps.
Southernblogger on January 18, 2012 at 11:25 AM
Lobotomy4life is soooooo insightful!
(hey! Romney is not on this thread..closed head!)
KOOLAID2 on January 18, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Now that everyone, liberals and conservatives alike, have come out against SOPA, I wonder if it will lead to anyone re-evaluating Net Neutrality. In its purest form, Net Neutrality is a reasonable rule, be it unnecessary (I haven’t yet seen a situation where anything NN proponents holler about wasn’t dealt with naturally via the free market) But when a concept that is so simple (ISP should not discriminate based solely on the CONTENT of a data packet) requires dozens and dozens of pages of jargon, and opens the door to giving the FCC jurisdiction it shouldn’t have, I feel like it’s still kinda “SOPA-lite”.
Violina23 on January 18, 2012 at 11:30 AM
It is not your information. You did not invest, sweat or create it. Do you work for free? I don’t. As someone with >40 copyrights and a creater of the tools and content others enjoy, i want to make this point clear: you have no ” right”, express or implied, to use, consume or modify the fruits of my labor.
Copyrights at their most basic simply protect someone’s work from theft or use without compensation. The problem with this bill is the governmental overreach. They used it as an excuse to wildly expand Government powers. That can’t be allowed to stand.
Irritable Pundit on January 18, 2012 at 11:31 AM
Rubio doesn’t meet the Constitutional requirements for president.
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Typical big government power grab under the guise of “protecting” us…….many republicans are guilty as well….at least the pressure got to Rubio…keep it up
bxy on January 18, 2012 at 11:32 AM
We dont need to FEDERALIZE the internet.
TX-96 on January 18, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Not anymore: https://twitter.com/#!/herpderpedia
stackedeck on January 18, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Neither does Paul.
hawkdriver on January 18, 2012 at 11:34 AM
Rubio doesn’t meet the Constitutional requirements for president.
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 11:32 AM
Perry/Jindal 2012!
Eff the Herr Doktor!
*Sorry Bish. Couldn’t help myself. evil grin*
annoyinglittletwerp on January 18, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Translation: Disney really, really wanted this.
Sorry, I know this is a huge disappointment for people who were impressed with Rubio. But at least he finally got on the right side of the issue. That’s better than Fritz Hollings ever did.
didymus on January 18, 2012 at 11:36 AM
Hmm…my response disappeared. Well, maybe it’ll show up soon. I’ll try again.
Some reading material for you:
Link 1
Link 2
Link 3
Link 4
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 11:42 AM
Hmm…my response disappeared again. So let’s try this a third time.
Some reading material for you without the tags this time
http://www.stephankinsella.com/2009/08/kinsella-speech-intellectual-property-and-libertarianism/
http://mises.org/daily/3863
http://mises.org/daily/4848
http://freenation.org/a/f31l1.html
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 11:43 AM
Well I’ve been trying to respond to you with some links for you to check out, but it appears that the powers that be at HA do not like those links, so they aren’t getting through a filter.
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 11:45 AM
Let’s try this as a test…
The Fight Against Intellectual Property
(Link is for Irritable Pundit)
Dante on January 18, 2012 at 11:49 AM
If only Obamacare got this sort of treatment when there was such huge public opposition to it.
Scrappy on January 18, 2012 at 11:53 AM
Sweet Jesus……don’t get them actually thinking!
Tim_CA on January 18, 2012 at 11:53 AM
SOPA/PIPA will make China’s Great Firewall look like childs play if it gets passed.
mythicknight on January 18, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Ironic is this message I got today when I tried to go to either of my senator’s websites to voice my disdain:
“Sorry, the web page you have requested is experiencing technical difficulties. The Webmaster has been alerted. If this problem persists, please contact the Office of the Secretary Webmaster at webmaster@sec.senate.gov.”
red villain on January 18, 2012 at 11:57 AM
Herein lies the stupidity. Copyright infringement is theft. If it were something tangible, like robbing a convenience store, you’d all be for the store owner to pull out a gun and start shooting.
Instead you shrug it off as a bunch of left wingers, when this town is FULL of conservatives. And it has absolutely nothing to do with political ideology. Theft is theft is theft is theft.
John the Libertarian on January 18, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Any bill that has corrupt former Senator Chris Dodd’s fingers on it – should be rejected out right – in all cases
bs4948800 on January 18, 2012 at 12:11 PM
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