Quickie PPP poll analysis

posted at 8:50 am on January 18, 2012 by Karl

The latest from PPP, because it’s getting buzz:

PPP’s first national poll of 2012 finds Barack Obama with his best standing against Mitt Romney since last May, right after the killing of Osama bin Laden. Obama leads Romney 49-44.

It’s not as if Obama’s suddenly become popular. He remains under water with 47% of voters approving of him to 50% who disapprove. But Romney’s even less popular, with only 35% rating him favorably while 53% have a negative opinion of him. Over the last month Romney’s seen his negatives with independents rise from 46% to 54%, suggesting that the things he has to say and do to win the Republican nomination aren’t necessarily helping him for the general. Obama’s turned what was a 45-36 deficit with independents a month ago into a 51-41 advantage.

I would not be overly concerned about this, not least because head-to-head polling is basically meaningless at this point in the cycle. Obama does not break 50%, despite PPP’s sample containing 41% Democrats — a couple of points higher than Dem turnout in 2008, let alone 2004 or 2000. Republicans are 35% of the sample, which would be about average. And the poll wants us to believe that Obama is not popular, but surged 15% with Indies in a single month. I would want to see that replicated in other polls before I buy it, particualrly since the only other poll this year to date with a Obama +5 result is the traditionally Obama-friendly reuters/Ispos poll. Tom Jensen is focused on Mitt’s unfavorables, which could be the Bain issue, but may also represent a lot of conservative disgust with Romney’s increasingly-likely nomination. It would also be interesting to know who the 7% undecided are, because Jensen previouslytold us it was disproportionately Republican in 2011 polls of swing states.

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Mitt will come out with a very effective and devastating campaign against Obama once he secures the nominatiodn. He will attack Obamas policies and record. He is not the type to just try throwing mud and personal attacks, so the things he will say about Obamas failures will ring true to all but the diehard liberals. That is why he will win big.

jibjab75 on January 18, 2012 at 10:46 AM

Are you telling me that Mittens will flip from a cautious, aloof, big-government Republican to a conservative fire-eater? Mittens can only change his basic political personality once an election, and I don’t think he’s even capable of faking being an effective conservative candidate.

Gladtobehere on January 18, 2012 at 11:15 AM

So far, I’m sticking with Newt.

We have a choice between a candidate who will attempt to play tennis with 0bama and out-point him, and a candidate who will play rugby with him and punch him in the kidney every time the ref’s not looking.

The only way to unseat 0bama is to ignite a fractious, and yes, ugly national debate over him.

Which of these two GOP candidates will wallop him right in the face again and again, and be so bold about it that it can’t help but ignite a heated, voter-to-voter debate – a debate that has to happen, to clear the tranquilizing fog of the MSM?

Newt cuts through, in my opinion, while Romney gets lost in the smokescreen laid down by 0bama and the MSM.

I’d rather go down swinging, with all the criticisms of 0bama laid out on the table, than lose in a finesse match.

cane_loader on January 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM

So far, I’m sticking with Newt.

We have a choice between a candidate who will attempt to play tennis with 0bama and out-point him, and a candidate who will play rugby with him and punch him in the kidney every time the ref’s not looking.

The only way to unseat 0bama is to ignite a fractious, and yes, ugly national debate over him.

Which of these two GOP candidates will wallop him right in the face again and again, and be so bold about it that it can’t help but ignite a heated, voter-to-voter debate – a debate that has to happen, to clear the tranquilizing fog of the MSM?

Newt cuts through, in my opinion, while Romney gets lost in the smokescreen laid down by 0bama and the MSM.

I’d rather go down swinging, with all the criticisms of 0bama laid out on the table, than lose in a finesse match.

cane_loader on January 18, 2012 at 11:18 AM

Newt has already apologized for referring to Obama as the “Food Stamp” President, it was the first time with his interview with David Gregory (not this latest time).

BradTank on January 18, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Newt has already apologized for referring to Obama as the “Food Stamp” President, it was the first time with his interview with David Gregory (not this latest time).

BradTank on January 18, 2012 at 11:23 AM

Well, Newt should be careful in race matters, as the blacks have become, overall, the most racist and reactionary voting bloc in America. (Look at the racist freaks they elect, from Sheila Jackson Lee, to Maxine Waters, to Charlie Rangel, to Cynthia McKinney.)

But as far as hammering 0bama on his incompetence in office, I don’t think Newt would hold back as much as Romney.

cane_loader on January 18, 2012 at 11:31 AM

Obama/Axelrod/MSM will crucify Romney. The GOP had better keep the House and win the Senate.

Colony14 on January 18, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Newt is too disorganized and prone to gaffs to secure the nomination. If he did, the dems would destroy him with his own baggage. Its easy for Newt to stand and hurl red meat to the conservative base now in the primary, in an effort to ignite his faltering mess of a campaign. He should be working on the basics, like getting on the ballots of all the states.

But heis so devisive that if he ever actually won the nomination, he would drive away the moderates and independents, and would envigorate the democrats who are presently disallusioned with Obama.

jibjab75 on January 18, 2012 at 12:09 PM

I think the biggest thing that Romney needs to understand is this: The only reason he’s in the position he’s in is because Obama sucks THAT BAD.

Sponge on January 18, 2012 at 12:10 PM

“Fire-eating conservative” Mittens is criticized by Mark Levin here for an ineffectual attack on Obama’s takeover of GM and Chrysler that completely ignored that Obama’s takeover was unconstitutional.

Gladtobehere on January 18, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Way to not mention this poll actually had RON PAUL performing best against Obama (47-42). Obama got 49 vs. Romney, but just 47 vs. Paul.

NewLiberty on January 18, 2012 at 12:14 PM

Yeah…..like Ron Paul is a viable candidate.

He’ll destroy this country faster than Obama. Mainly because we’ll be savagely attacked by each and every middle eastern country AND Russia.

No thanks. He’s a lunatic. And as soon as the Dems start attacking him for his racist newsletters, he’s DONE.

You just keep F*^&ing that chicken, NewLiberty.

Sponge on January 18, 2012 at 12:28 PM

Perry and Gingrich are doing a fine job for the Obama campaign! I only hope they got paid more than $1.6 million.

csdeven on January 18, 2012 at 9:00 AM

There is plenty of time to ditch Romney. Don’t worry.

Considering Perry, Palin, Gingrich, and Santorum have a much less favorable view by the indies, these attacks, that we all know would come irrespective of the nominee, would have their numbers much lower than Romney’s.

csdeven on January 18, 2012 at 9:02 AM

Either all of them can beat Obama or none of them can. The conservatives might lose some moderates but Romney would lose some conservatives. This election is about Obama. Favorability ratings mean nothing at this point.

Bill C on January 18, 2012 at 1:00 PM

Whoops, meant to quote instead of strike that last one.

Bill C on January 18, 2012 at 1:00 PM

A PPP poll………say no more.

Capt0161 on January 18, 2012 at 4:40 PM

I agree Capt0161. PPP is a Demoncrat leaning polling organization. They kept calling us all through the 2010 election season. I always took the time to talk to them because I’m sure they hate people to tell them they are voting Republican.

sherrimae on January 18, 2012 at 10:26 PM

All the arguing is pointless. None of the candidates are worth a darn.

If Romney gets the nomination though, I don’t see any point in voting, at least not for president. Romney is no better than Obama, he just wants the office for the legacy, perks, power, and the ability to use “national emergency” as an excuse to fly very far away from the wife for a few days.

Wolfmoon on January 19, 2012 at 12:43 AM

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