Fox News: The TV source Americans trust the most AND the least

posted at 7:31 pm on January 18, 2012 by Tina Korbe

The Fox News Channel is simultaneously America’s most trusted news source and its least, according to a new poll from Public Policy Polling. Now, if the very same Americans said they both trusted and distrusted Fox, that might have suggested the channel is as perfectly fair and balanced as its executives claim. That is, if conservatives and liberals alike trusted half the information Fox provided and distrusted the other half, a plausible explanation would be that Fox provided liberal and conservative commentary in equal measure. Unfortunately for Fox, that’s not the case here. Instead, the breakdown is predictable: Republicans overwhelmingly trust Fox, while Democrats regard the cable news channel with a wary eye.

Fox is the most trusted TV news source for 34% of voters, followed by PBS at 17%, CNN at 12%, ABC News at 11%, CBS News at 8%, MSNBC at 5%, and Comedy Central and NBC each at 4%.

68% of Republicans pick Fox as their most trusted source, with no one else even hitting double digits. Democrats split closely three ways with PBS at 21%, ABC News at 19%, and CNN at 17%. Despite having a reputation for appealing to the left MSNBC actually polls in only 6th place among Democrats at 8%, finishing slightly behind even Fox News’ 9%. Independents split almost evenly between Fox News (29%) and PBS (27%).

Fox is also the least trusted TV news source for 34% of voters, followed by Comedy Central at 16%, MSNBC at 15%, CNN at 11%, ABC News at 7%, CBS News at 5%, PBS at 2%, and NBC News at 1%.

Democrats (53-17 over Comedy Central) and independents (44-13 over Comedy Central) both overwhelmingly say Fox is their least trusted news source. Republicans go for MSNBC by a 28-23 margin over CNN, followed by Comedy Central at 18% and ABC News at 10%.

The poll also asked whether folks trusted each individual source.  PBS was the only news source that a majority of those polled said they trust. A plurality of voters also said they trust CNN, NBC and Fox. The rest of the sources run an explicit trust deficit; more individuals said they don’t trust them than said they do.

The sample skewed conservative and Democrat, with a liberal/moderate/conservative breakdown of 28/27/44 and a Democrat/Independent/Republican breakdown of 41/24/35.

In general, the directors of PPP say this poll suggests TV news has become every bit as polarized as the political parties in this country. “Television news has become just as polarizing as the politicians themselves,” PPP president Dean Debnam said in a press release. “Democrats trust everything except Fox News, while Republicans trust nothing except Fox News.”

To me, the poll serves as a timely reminder to check a diversity of sources to ensure a well-rounded perspective on the world. Realistically, time constraints and the general demands of life often preclude the casual media consumer from checking a multiplicity of sources, but that doesn’t mean consumers can’t switch it up occasionally.


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cmsinaz on May 20, 2013 at 4:00 PM

It pains me to see comparisons to Watergate.
Sure, crimes were committed during Watergate, and the coverup was worse than the crime.

But Watergate was just a small skirmish between groups who wanted to be in charge. Both sides wanted to do what they thought was best for the USA. Nobody got killed. Nixon and the ‘burglars’ didn’t hate the USA. They wanted to keep it strong.

All that the 0bama administration does is to fundamentally change DESTROY the USA.

Hell, just the stuff 0bama did to get elected to the Illinois State Senate were worse than Watergate.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 4:01 PM

2010 was before they had the fully operational battle station to stop conservatives from assembling. How exactly do you win an election in 2014 when the entire government is in on the conspiracy to keep Obama and his ilk in power?

This whole exercise is much easier to understand when you realize the scandals are a feature not a bug. They are testing the waters for complete control. And so far the water is fine. Except for some republicans that are kicking up a fuss as usual.

There will be no negative repercussions to the enablers of these scandals. On the contrary, they will be met with open arms.

We have been fundamentally transformed. We voted for it.

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM

really? Study history and how the dictators across the world were brought down by people power. the only “power” these dictators have is fear and bullying. It seems they have got to you. what 2010 showed beyond a doubt and what scared the pants off not only Obama but the gOPE is that when the people are united no amount of money, dirty tricks, fear, accusations fo racism, or fixed elections can stop the tidal wave. they spent 2 straight years seeking to ensure it didn’t happen again. We are seeing how they did it now with these scandals. We will not atttack them in the same way but we will prevail. Evil always loses in the end. Have faith, get some courage and fight.

unseen on May 20, 2013 at 4:01 PM

And not one question today at the Carney Ride about the meeting between IRS union head and POTUS followed one day later by Tea-party targeting campaign…

oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM

When they came for the FOX news reporters, I said nothing…..

redguy on May 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Fast and Furious revived, in strange and unexpected ways.

This is the “smaahtest president, evahhhhh”.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Has anyone seen Holder???..Hiding under his desk..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM

There will be no negative repercussions to the enablers of these scandals. On the contrary, they will be met with open arms.

We have been fundamentally transformed. We voted for it.

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM

You know what Obama’s election reveals?

What it reveals given the partial revelations of wrongdoing and malfeasance taking place?

That that fervor we all witnessed that elected him — fervor and eager, willing activity to deceive others by media about him — is based upon FALSE IDEALS, false notions, failed ethics if not rotten or even absent ones.

What it reveals, Holder, Obama, the whole lot of ‘em, reveals is to what extent that-which-motivates them is screwy. Thus, their desperate destructiveness when poked about any or some of it.

This week, we’re seeing a bit of their desperate destructiveness at being poked about some of it. It’s going to become more destructive very soon, I sense.

Lourdes on May 20, 2013 at 4:03 PM

And you wonder why O’s approval rating is still over 50%? People are scared to say what they think…. might get you a visit from the O’stapo storm troopers and union goons. This is incredible. Truly incredible.

You have now entered… Omerica. Hold on, it’s gonna be really bumpy for the next 3 1/2 years.

Key West Reader on May 20, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Our President is going to be so disappointed tonight when he watches the news and sees what everyone has been up to, he really expected better of everyone. I imagine it is very frustrating to deal with minions who can’t even collect a few emails without getting caught.

Lily on May 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Fast & Furious… that sounds familiar… where have I heard that before… hmmm…

Akzed on May 20, 2013 at 4:04 PM

So finally, finally , Benghazi will be proved beyond any doubt to be Fast and Furious -islamic edition …..

burrata on May 20, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Has anyone seen Holder???..Hiding under his desk..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM

eric withholder doesn’t know anything.

http://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/05/16/eric-holder-just-doesnt-know-n1598543

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 4:06 PM

“We will unequivocally defend his right to operate as a member of what up until now has always been a free press.”

Be specific, Fox News, what exactly are you going to do to defend this right?

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Interesting that the Rosen story broke in the Washington Post.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Has anyone seen Holder???..Hiding under his desk..:)

Dire Straits on May 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Nah, he’s hiding in Hillary’s pants.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Impeachment? That’s a silly thing to suggest.

– George Will

Dusty on May 20, 2013 at 4:07 PM

‘Obama has classified, I think, seven million — in one year, classified seven million documents. Everything is classified. So that would give the government the ability to control all its information on the theory that it’s classified. And if anybody asks for it and gets it, they’re complicit, and they’re going to go to jail. So that criminalizes the process, and it means that the dissemination of information, which is inevitable, out of the classified sources of that information will be stopped.’

- James Goodale, New York Times’ former general counsel, 17 May 2013

THE ‘MOST TRANSPARENT ADMINISTRATION…EVAH!’…HAS ‘CLASSIFIED’ MILLION DOCUMENTS!

But, when documents can be used to smear whistle-blowers and opponents of the Administration, boy can they be readily found and leaked!

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 4:08 PM

The state of the Land

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Nah, he’s hiding in Hillary’s pants.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I’d like to see him in one of her pantsuits.

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 4:09 PM

This site is also a journalistic site.

NotCoach on May 20, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Thanks for being me to me. I’m the one who consistently makes that point, perhaps the only one until you.

Next time try to tell me something I haven’t already said over and over.

Capitalist Hog on May 20, 2013 at 4:10 PM

They are daring the State Run Media to prove they are lying…will any of them leave the Prog team..?

d1carter on May 20, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Alinsky tactics don’t work against the Left. Alinsky tactics only work against people with a sense of shame and decency. The left loves these scandals. This is how it’s supposed to work. And boy does it work. They’ll never lose again.

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Utterly false.

Alinsky Rule # 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counterattack ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, who then react to your advantage.”

That is classis projection – leftards hate when they’re ridiculed, and it is the potent weapon, at least against them

Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 4:11 PM

So finally, finally , Benghazi will be proved beyond any doubt to be Fast and Furious -islamic edition …..

burrata on May 20, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Yeah gun-running, and RPGs etc moved to Syria. But it’s more than that. Who did we have in the CIA pokey and were we torturing them with strongly worded letters and questions? Why didn’t we secure the weapons left behind by Q’daffy? How many stinger types, how many SAM type, how many RPGs, how many weapons of all types are now in the hands of god-knows-who all over North Africa and the Middle East?

Even the freakishly leftist euro-press has been reporting about this since August of 2012.

oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 4:12 PM

All that the 0bama administration does is to fundamentally change DESTROY the USA.

Hell, just the stuff 0bama did to get elected to the Illinois State Senate were worse than Watergate.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Excellent point. S/b repeated by the millions, alas.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 4:12 PM

*classisc

Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 4:13 PM

’d like to see him in one of her pantsuits.
VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 4:09 PM

I’d like to see them both, AND 0bama in orange jumpsuits.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 4:14 PM

You have now entered… Omerica.

Key West Reader on May 20, 2013 at 4:03 PM

OmeriKa is more like it.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Don’t use Google.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 3:30 PM

That’s the understatement of the year. The crony relationship that the Obysmal administration has with Google and Facebook smells of collusion worthy of a RICO investigation.

I haven’t used Google in years.

onlineanalyst on May 20, 2013 at 4:14 PM

unseen on May 20, 2013 at 4:01 PM

What exactly are you going to do to “fight” the IRS? How are you going to “fight” the Justice Department? I agree that the people spoke in 2010. But the IRS and the Justice Department (and Justice Roberts btw) put a stop to that in 2012. You think after 2 more years of malfeasance and corruption we’re going to reverse this inexorable tide?

Look, I’m not saying goodness won’t win in the end. I’m sure after a few hundred years there will be some resurgence of goodness on Earth.

I’m not trying to talk you out of the struggle. I’m just expressing my own frustrations. It does seem hopeless though to use the “law” and “elections” and the “Constitution” when they are being brazenly violated without a hint of repercussions.

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:15 PM

The intimidation is intended to scare off leakers who can implicate Dear Leader and his henchmen in the IRS scandal.

Philly on May 20, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Jeffrey Goldberg ‏@JeffreyGoldberg 14m

This is just unbelievable: The DOJ is arguing that flattering a source represents criminal behavior: http://www.businessinsider.com/doj-search-warrant-fox-news-reporter-2013-5

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 4:15 PM

I’d like to see them both, AND 0bama in orange jumpsuits.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 4:14 PM

I’m sure they all own at least one.

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 4:15 PM

That is classis projection – leftards hate when they’re ridiculed, and it is the potent weapon, at least against them…
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 4:11 PM

How do you ridicule that which has no shame?

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:16 PM

I’d like to see them both, AND 0bama in orange jumpsuits.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 4:14 PM

They are the Three Monkeys of Oblivion, claiming to be the “smaahhtest evahhhh”, concurrently.

I say they are all thugs. Period.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 4:16 PM

When a tyrant knows that the disengaged masses and the corrupt media will never hold him accountable, this is the result. Even Bathtub Boy has spoken out against this rogue government.

I’m starting to think impeachment won’t even be enough. Read into that however you like.

crrr6 on May 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Capitalist Hog on May 20, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Tell me, what is life like without friends?

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:18 PM

I’m sure they all own at least one.
VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Maybe so, but the ones I want to see have numbers and ‘Department of Corrections’ on them, and come with matching bracelets and anklets of heavy steel.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Is it just me, or all these late scandals have left us virtually troll-free? Heh…

jimver on May 20, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Giuliani says the POS’s absence on the night of the Benghazi attacks is a dereliction of duty. BINGO. I have been saying for weeks the excuse there wasn’t enough time to respond doesn’t hold water? How did anyone know how long the attacks would last? If they DID know it’s because there was a plan – maybe it was to exchange Stevens for the Blind Sheikh?

wyntre9 on May 20, 2013 at 4:21 PM

I’m sure they all own at least one.
VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Maybe so, but the ones I want to see have numbers and ‘Department of Corrections’ on them, and come with matching bracelets and anklets of heavy steel.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 4:18 PM

I knew that, that’s why I said at least one. I’m sure that they have all been arrested at least once in their lives.

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 4:22 PM

They wanted to destroy the 2nd and in background were killing the 1st.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 4:24 PM

I get the feeling these so far are only the tip of an extremely corrupt iceberg.

JetBoy on May 20, 2013 at 3:54 PM

I’ve said it before, having had ample opportunity to observe the Chicago Way in action, both as practiced in Chicago and right here in the Indiana county that borders Chicago on the state line.

Folks who are only familiar with the often amateurish antics of corrupt local pols just have no idea. Corruption is pervasive and the thugs are relentless. It is a mark of corrupt professionalism that absolutely no wheel or lever is not perverted to political ends, if not outright theft. Not a contract is let, an inspector greased, or a part-time janitor hired that some tool doesn’t have a thumb in the pie or a hand in the pocket.

The county gov’t center here in Lake Co. has a big brass plaque from the building dedication. Every single county commissioner listed on that plaque eventually wound up in the federal pen. And they weren’t the only ones.

We ain’t seen nuthin’. Yet.

novaculus on May 20, 2013 at 4:25 PM

How do you ridicule that which has no shame?

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Do you know how Mohammed reacted to being made fun of? How about 0dumba, when it comes to his ears?

This isn’t an attack, but do you even have a sense of humor? Do you know how humor works against people with thin skins? Where do you think Alinski got his ‘insight’ for Rule #5? Do you know how “projection” works?

I ask because it’s clear you do not understand leftist psychology as well as you seem to think you do…

Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Fundamentally transformed. What exactly did we think he meant?

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Giuliani says the POS’s absence on the night of the Benghazi attacks is a dereliction of duty. BINGO. I have been saying for weeks the excuse there wasn’t enough time to respond doesn’t hold water? How did anyone know how long the attacks would last? If they DID know it’s because there was a plan – maybe it was to exchange Stevens for the Blind Sheikh?

wyntre9 on May 20, 2013 at 4:21 PM

When will we hear of pundit emails being spied on. Oh, that’s right, if you are in the news media, it’s OK to sift through Sarah Palin’s email.

oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 4:26 PM

It’s becoming apparent that Comrade O’s heavily partisan speeches and belligerent rhetoric towards his critics and political opponents basically signaled the lefties in the government that it was now open season on conservatives and they could use their power to crack down on them.

farsighted on May 20, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Unfortunately, it is all a pipe-dream. The best we can hope for is that Holder will be replaced (probably by someone even worse) and Hillary’s Presidential plans will be derailed.

None will actually ever be actually punished, much less incarcerated.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Giuliani had best watch his back, his email, and his tax records.

oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Even the freakishly leftist euro-press has been reporting about this since August of 2012.

oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Looks like Idi Hussein has not only been running guns for drug cartels and jihadies,
he was also looting Q-daffy government’s weapons after his fall,
and supplying them to muslim brotherhood and other jihadoes, specially in Syria.
It’s no coincidence that 4 Americans were set up to be executed imediately after the Turkish Ambassador leaves after meeting our Ambassador in Benghazi ? I wonder what they talked about ?
And guess who come calling to the WH as soon as the heat on Benghazi gets a lil closer to Hussein ?
The Flotilla Cardigan guy from Turkey !! and he brought with him a few jihadies too I’m , sure !!

burrata on May 20, 2013 at 4:28 PM

How do you ridicule that which has no shame?

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:16 PM

btw, this statement reminds me of the lame late-night “comedians” who excused themselves from mocking 0dumba because they claimed they couldn’t find anything mockable about him…

Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 4:30 PM

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 4:26 PM

If Holder goes Deval Patrick takes his place.

Hillary and Biden have been taciturn lately. Someone must have cut their tongues off.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 4:30 PM

CIA source says Fox News scandal the “4th Shoe”; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on “something” that has top aides terrified.—

joseph curl (@josephcurl) May 20, 2013

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Drip, drip drip……it just keeps coming out. At this point does anybody really care about immigration, guns, or the budget?

The GOP needs to take Rahmbo’s mantra, “never let a crisis go to waste”.

Tater Salad on May 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM

HOLDER=JAIL

TX-96 on May 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM

just wanted to repeat this great comment:

There are technological solutions to this problem. And journalists should do this NOW.

1. Encrypt your email. Its not hard. You can use very secure email protocols that the DOJ won’t be able to touch.

2. Host the email in places the government can’t get at it. Literally put the server in the news building or put it in another country that might not cooperate with the DOJ.

3. Security through Obscurity. Use odd communications protocols. Ill used technology. Programs few are familiar with and few know how to compromise much less exist. Encourage everyone to push information through alternative channels.

4. Switch your phone system over to VOIP (Voice Over IP) and encrypt it. This won’t work for regular phone calls but this is the 21st century. Tell your sources to download the required software, give them the security keys so they can talk to you, and laugh when the DOJ whines about not being ABLE to wire tap you with or without a court order.

This is how you do it people. Forget getting the DOJ to come clean or operate within their constitutional limits. We have the technology to render their snooping obsolete. They only get away with this when you use outdated technology that is not properly secured. Use the old phone system and you’re basically begging to be wiretapped. Phones are stupid. I appreciate they’re widely used and convention but they have no security and the only entity that might provide security… the phone company… will not protect you. So by all means, keep the phones so you can have a phone number. But direct your contacts to superior means of communication that are more secure and actually less expensive. VOIP generally costs nothing beyond what you’re already paying for internet access.

I could go on about this stuff for ages. I’m in IT. I see what is going on here and it makes me sick. Its very easy to secure communication in the 21st century against government intrusion so long as you’ve made SOME effort to protect yourself. If they’re able to get anything from you then its because you’re not trying. Think the DoJ could cease phone records if the only place those phone records existed was INSIDE the AP corporate office? Have fun with that DoJ. And even then, the news organization would have total control over those records up to the point when they were ceased… which would mean they could not keep records at all. Which would render any such media circus without profit.

We don’t have to wait for the government to behave itself. We can render these tactics impotent simply by taking a little personal responsibility. It requires that people do things a little different. It will involve some short term inconvenience as people learn and adapt. But the end point will be a system so hard to wire tap that the very idea of the DoJ even trying will be laughable.

Karmashock on May 20, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Sachiko on May 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM

I ask because it’s clear you do not understand leftist psychology as well as you seem to think you do…
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Perhaps. As far as I can tell though, Alinsky tactics are based around the idea of asymmetrical warfare against a powerful yet ultimately benevolent institution. Alinsky tactics wouldn’t work against nazis or the soviets. They work against “good” people that are pushed around and made to “look evil”.

Alinsky tactics don’t work against people that are actually evil thugs.

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:32 PM

btw, this statement reminds me of the lame late-night “comedians” who excused themselves from mocking 0dumba because they claimed they couldn’t find anything mockable about him…
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 4:30 PM

They’re right. Obama just makes people sad.

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:33 PM

CIA source says Fox News scandal the “4th Shoe”; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on “something” that has top aides terrified.—

joseph curl (@josephcurl) May 20, 2013

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM

“It’s neither here, nor there” — nobrain

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 4:34 PM

when the people are united no amount of money, dirty tricks, fear, accusations fo racism, or fixed elections can stop the tidal wave.

unseen on May 20, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Riiiight. What tidal wave? Of course, you’re right, no dirty tricks can stop them – actually throwing them in jail can, however. So can making them destitute with government investigations and fines. Especially when the vast majority of the country just stands watching, chewing its cud.

Evil always loses in the end.

“Spock, I’ve found that evil usually triumphs – unless good is very, very careful.”

Have faith, get some courage and fight.

The fighting is coming. I won’t disagree with that.

GWB on May 20, 2013 at 4:34 PM

CIA source says Fox News scandal the “4th Shoe”; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on “something” that has top aides terrified.—

joseph curl (@josephcurl) May 20, 2013

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Ironically, this helps explain why they are so messed-up trying to explain the present scandals.

I am ready for the next “something”

Jabberwock on May 20, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Conservatives defend journalism.

Capitalist Hog on May 20, 2013 at 3:23 PM

And? I assume you are trying to ironically imply that conservatives don’t like journalism. Nothing could be farther from the truth.

What conservatives don’t like is people pretending to put forth advocacy as fact. Conservatives simply point out that everyone has biases and biases inform our decisions. Whether it is the decision to report a particular story, how to cover it if you do report it, what resources to call upon, who to question, how you are going to question them, what questions you will ask, what follow up you will ask, what opposing viewpoints you will obtain.

Each one of those is a decision that is made with one’s biases informing the decision. Thus, if an editor is liberal, he may, consciously or not, decide a particular story is not worth pursuing (say, the Fast and Furious scandal) because he does not believe it is a “real” story. Instead, he may decide that the most important story of the decade is that Marco Rubio took a sip of water during the GOP’s State of the Union rebuttal.

It is the fact that the MSM pretends that it is completely unbiased and objective that conservatives object to. The vast majority of the MSM is liberal and therefore, consciously or not, they skew all reporting to favor one side of the argument or omit certain stories altogether.

A much more reasonable approach (and the approach that was used for the first 150 years of our history and is generally still used in England) is for each newspaper, TV News show, and each reporter to admit their biases up-front so that everyone can take such admitted bias into account when reading, watching, listening to the news report.

the only possible reason for the MSM and the Left to object to strenuously to this idea is that they know they are greasing the game. They know they are all liberal and skewing the news, but they want the public to believe they are getting “objective news”. Otherwise, there is no reasonable argument against the foregoing idea. And, any person who claims to have no biases and that they are completely objective is unworthy of response.

Monkeytoe on May 20, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Giuliani had best watch his back, his email, and his tax records.

oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 4:27 PM

I doubt it that they would even try to intimidate Giuliani. I mean they really, really, really don’t want to go there.

jimver on May 20, 2013 at 4:36 PM

I’d bet they closely watch EVERYONE at Fox, even the hardcore lefties like Beckel and Juan Williams. Just in case they might decide to tell the truth about something.

0bama has told the world loudly and publicly a few times that FOX is the enemy.

I’d be really surprised if 0bama / Butch Napolitano don’t closely spy on EVERYONE who has a microphone, lots of ink and paper, or a popular website where they talk about the news or politics. Just in case, ya know.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Remember those infamous 900 FBI files that Bill and Hillary Bonnie and Clyde stole after they became The President in 1993? They weren’t all files on Republicans. In fact, one of the files was…James Carville’s.

Del Dolemonte on May 20, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Trouble with encrypting your emails is that that itself is a red flag.

And the Feds have ‘backdoors’ into most of the popular encryption schemes. Especially the ones owned and distributed by USA corporations.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 4:37 PM

btw, this statement reminds me of the lame late-night “comedians” who excused themselves from mocking 0dumba because they claimed they couldn’t find anything mockable about him…

Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 4:30 PM

BOOM!http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2013/05/15/video-jon-stewart-rips-obamas-response-to-scandals-again/

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Obama Scandal So Bad, Keith Olbermann is Defending FOX NEWS

@KeithOlbermann

My experience dealing with @JamesRosenFNC was unpleasant and contentious. And I fully support him against this unwarranted act by DOJ
12:55 PM – 20 May 2013

http://jimromenesko.com/2013/05/20/keith-olbermann-backs-fox-newser-and-doj-target-james-rosen/

sentinelrules on May 20, 2013 at 4:37 PM

CIA source says Fox News scandal the “4th Shoe”; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on “something” that has top aides terrified.—

joseph curl (@josephcurl) May 20, 2013

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Well sure. Benghazi. Gun-running. Weapons. WMD. Syria. The whole nine yards. Some of what happened what just screw ups. Some of it was planned, including the weapons to Syria.

oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 4:37 PM

…James Carville’s.
Del Dolemonte on May 20, 2013 at 4:37 PM

I didn’t know that in particular, but I’m not surprised.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 4:40 PM

CIA source says Fox News scandal the “4th Shoe”; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on “something” that has top aides terrified.—

joseph curl (@josephcurl) May 20, 2013

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Hopefully this will take us to the next level…no idea what that might be, but it’s becoming clearer and clear that this was just the beginning…

jimver on May 20, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Giuliani had best watch his back, his email, and his tax records.

oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 4:27 PM

I doubt it that they would even try to intimidate Giuliani. I mean they really, really, really don’t want to go there.

jimver on May 20, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Agree. Rudy can take care of himself.

Del Dolemonte on May 20, 2013 at 4:40 PM

OT: OK City under attack by tornado activity.

Del Dolemonte on May 20, 2013 at 4:42 PM

@KeithOlbermann

My experience dealing with @JamesRosenFNC was unpleasant and contentious. And I fully support him against this unwarranted act by DOJ

dude…..

if KO has come around, then …dude…..

all bets are off now folks.

ted c on May 20, 2013 at 4:43 PM

OT: OK City under attack by tornado activity.

Del Dolemonte on May 20, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Hussein in situation room , ordering the tornado to stand down …pics coming out soon .

burrata on May 20, 2013 at 4:44 PM

CIA source says Fox News scandal the “4th Shoe”; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on “something” that has top aides terrified.—

joseph curl (@josephcurl) May 20, 201

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Obama’s whereabouts on the night in question after being told of the attacks?

oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Poor Olby.

Nothing’s worse than a fallen false messiah.

kingsjester on May 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Reporters ought to have a little bit of fun with this turn of events while maintaining their outrage over it. It would be cool if the only questions asked by reporters of Carney at the daily WH press briefing tomorrow was if the FBI is tapping their phone or if DOJ has subpenaed their emails and phone records.

When he objects tot he same question over and over they can tell him they’re conspiring and it isn’t illegal as far as they know, but he could ask the DOJ about that and let them know.

If he says they should ask DOJ, they can respond that DOJ will probably just say they don’t know or can’t remember or that they’ve recused themselves and besides Obama swore an oath to faithfully execute the laws which includes what goes on at DOJ and they wish him to find out for them.

Dusty on May 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM

it’s another thing to anger reporters

But he’s a Faux News employee, ergo not a reporter. Release the Kraken! [/MFM]

Physics Geek on May 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Tell me, what is life like without friends?

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Beautiful, online.

I long ago stated that I don’t forge alliances with anonymous nobodies. I don’t give two craps about what you think about me here. I don’t know you. And I will never bend to please you. I may even take delight in mocking you…even if you agree with me.

Get it? Got it? Good. So it goes. Online, everybody sucks. Hope that helps.

Capitalist Hog on May 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Not sure where I fall on this ‘Alinsky tactics against the left’ deal, but, it occurs to me that that ‘happy’ is largely correct – the Alinsky tactics are to be used to get the other side to cow, to bend in a way that they wouldn’t ordinarily.

We’re talking about Obama here, and someone made the reference to ‘how would Mohammed react to being ridiculed’? Um, he’d f*cking kill you, I suspect. And how would Obama react? Well, care to go to jail, be audited, spied on, rights deprived, etc?

It’s not the same as the left using Alinsky tactics against people on the right who *wont* react violently or in a way that’s ‘bad’ – it’s meant for a target who will back down rather than do so.

On the other hand, the left has demonstrated that it wont back down, it *will*, instead, use the power of the government against you.

There’s a fundamental difference there. It’s like continuing to expect liberals to argue and behave in good faith – they simply won’t, and we’re continually shocked by their level of duplicity and shameless political behavior. It’s like expecting terrorists to think the way we do – they simply don’t, and we’re continually surprised at their level of brutality.

Maybe I’m missing something but expecting Alinsky tactics to be as effective against the left seems… misguided.

Midas on May 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

CIA source says Fox News scandal the “4th Shoe”; says it goes much deeper; says WH also sitting on “something” that has top aides terrified.—

joseph curl (@josephcurl) May 20, 201

Resist We Much on May 20, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Obama’s whereabouts on the night in question after being told of the attacks?

oldroy on May 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Did he have any personal visitors that may have… distracted him?

Midas on May 20, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Alinsky tactics don’t work against people that are actually evil thugs.

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Since Alinsky’s Rule #5 is one of Alinsky’s tactics, again, this is plain false.

Lefties are far more susceptible to Rule #5 than we on the Right generally are, and because they are so stupid, they don’t realize it – they falsely believe that what works so well against them naturally would work against us also.

Lefties do not like themselves, and cannot stand their own (moral) reflections – ridiculing them persistently is like throwing water on the Wicked Witch of the West. One of my complaints about the Right is that we do not utilize this truth to our advantage as nearly much as we should. :)

They’re right. Obama just makes people sad.

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 4:33 PM

I don’t know that that’s always true…for instance, this clip always brings a smile to my face – get a load of that imposing/intimidating form! 0dumba bowling like he’s wearing Mom jeans

From Twitter’s #LiberalBandNames:
The Gender Benders
Bathhouse Barry & The Downlow Boys
Reggie Love and the Backdoor Boys
Prince Obama and the Redistributive Revolution
Transgender Orchestra

Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 4:54 PM

@KeithOlbermann

My experience dealing with @JamesRosenFNC was unpleasant and contentious. And I fully support him against this unwarranted act by DOJ

Oh, wow.

KO’s need to try to recover an ounce of credibility just overtook his need to lick Obama’s backside. Must’ve wept uncontrollably as he struggled to click ‘submit’ on that tweet.

Things have gotten bad, indeed.

Midas on May 20, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Federal judge finds probable cause Fox News reporter helped leak classified docs

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/05/20/federal-judge-finds-probable-cause-fox-news-reporter-helped-leak-classified-docs/

While you douche-bags are covering politics…people and children in a flattened school are dead from the most destructive tornado in recent history.

stingray9813 on May 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Maybe I’m missing something but expecting Alinsky tactics to be as effective against the left seems… misguided.

Midas on May 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Since we don’t live in Nazi Germany, or Stalin’s USSR, or Castro’s Cuba, yes, you are missing something about using Alinsky’s tactics against leftists in the present-day US…

Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 4:54 PM

I haven’t seen a successful mocking of a leftist that resulted in a loss. We mercilessly mocked what’s her name, the “1/32nd Cherokee” woman from Boston. She won, right?

I think you’re confusing Leftists having no sense of humor about themselves with actual shame at their idiocy. They don’t see anything wrong with the IRS targeting the Tea Party, for instance.

We even tried making fun of Obama for missing all those jump shots. And the leftists literally said he was missing on purpose to seem more human. How do you ridicule that? They don’t get it.

You can’t successfully ridicule people who lack self-awareness. They simply don’t notice.

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Hey, I guess that finally 0bama’s technical wizards finally figured out how to operate the Cheney / Haliburton weather machine, and is now using it to devastate the center of “right wing bible and gun clinging country” with tornadoes, to distract from today’s political stories.

Prayers for Oklahoma, Kansas etc. Lots of devastation :-(.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Since we don’t live in Nazi Germany, or Stalin’s USSR, or Castro’s Cuba….
Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 5:01 PM

But see, we live in Obama’s America. It doesn’t work.

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 5:05 PM

While you douche-bags are covering politics…people and children in a flattened school are dead from the most destructive tornado in recent history.
stingray9813 on May 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM

What the hell do you expect us to do about it?

Tell you what.

You load up your truck with emergency supplies, drive there and start helping, and I will too. Tell me where to meet you and we can work together.

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Beautiful, online.

Capitalist Hog on May 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Bitter, lonely people coming online to share their misery. How quaint.

You are a sad, strange little man, and you have my pity.

GWB on May 20, 2013 at 5:13 PM

But see, we live in Obama’s America. It doesn’t work.

happytobehere on May 20, 2013 at 5:05 PM

You still don’t know why I asked you if you even have a sense of humor, do you?

When you need to accomplish a difficult task which requires the help of others, who will you go to: namby-pamby whiners who don’t believe the job can be done, or those who are willing to give it a go with a cheerful attitude?

Let me tell you, I’d never hire someone with your negative, humorless, defeatist attitude….

Anti-Control on May 20, 2013 at 5:14 PM

While you douche-bags are covering politics…people and children in a flattened school are dead from the most destructive tornado in recent history.

stingray9813 on May 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Classic case of projection.

GWB on May 20, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Behold the American God is revealing himself!

You in the press…….DOJ is coming for YOU.

You are just like JAMES ROSEN…..”A CONSPIRATOR”

PappyD61 on May 20, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Get it? Got it? Good. So it goes. Online, everybody sucks. Hope that helps.

Capitalist Hog on May 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Speaking for yourself.

VegasRick on May 20, 2013 at 5:19 PM

I get the sense that Obama fears that things are collapsing around him so he must take totalitarian measures to rein in those who know the truth. These fascist moves reek of desperation.

Philly on May 20, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Culture of corruption.

Cartel of Criminals

VorDaj on May 20, 2013 at 5:24 PM

LegendHasIt on May 20, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Both Nixon and Obama were/are statists and all of these scandals resulted from a sense that they were above the law. Nixon was not good for this country and if he truly loved it, he wouldn’t have expanded government while abusing his power. Obama is either more incompetent than I thought, a complete puppet for the left, or a dangerous fraud.

Daemonocracy on May 20, 2013 at 5:26 PM

While you douche-bags are covering politics…people and children in a flattened school are dead from the most destructive tornado in recent history.
stingray9813 on May 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM

One of the stupidest comments on HA…and lordie, lordie, there’s an abundance of them.

Schadenfreude on May 20, 2013 at 5:27 PM

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