Dueling ads: Helping Democrats

posted at 11:45 am on January 18, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

We’re coming down to the wire in South Carolina, which means that it’s time for the negative ads to hit the media markets in the Palmetto State. In this corner, we have a new ad from Mitt Romney’s campaign called “Undisciplined,” which attacks Newt Gingrich in a direct manner as an erratic Republican leader in the mid-1990s as Speaker of the House. Rep. Susan Molinari offers her own assessment from personal experience in this 30-second spot, arguing that Gingrich’s performance ended up helping Democrats:

And in the opposite corner, the super-PAC Winning Our Future backing Gingrich has a new 60-second spot that imagines a debate between Barack Obama and Mitt Romney. Did I say debate? I meant a love fest, which WOF claims will help Democrats:

The second ad will get laughs, but it’s making a pretty good prediction about the strategy Obama would likely employ in a debate against Romney. However, the same strategy works with Gingrich as well, who backed individual mandates for health-care reform for years, as late as 2008, and was defending RomneyCare’s “tremendous potential” as late as 2006.  Gingrich was hardly alone in this on the Right; at one point, the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation backed an individual mandate, although Heritage changed its mind years before ObamaCare, a fact that Obama has cited on more than one occasion while defending ObamaCare.  This may well explain why the other candidates on stage have hardly mentioned RomneyCare in debates for the last few events.

I give the edge in Round One to Romney’s ad, but neither side has landed a tough blow.  The haymakers probably won’t appear until tomorrow or Friday.


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The movie was made by an ex-Romney aid. The Pac bought it as a finished product. Why would an ex-Romney aid do that?

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 2:41 PM

rik on January 18, 2012 at 2:40 PM

Okay, I’ll say it works for me since I come here, read and comment using my own free will and opinions.

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 2:43 PM

The movie was made by an ex-Romney aid. The Pac bought it as a finished product. Why would an ex-Romney aid do that?
Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 2:41 PM

Money, honey.

Buy Danish on January 18, 2012 at 2:45 PM

I give the edge in Round One to Romney’s ad, but neither side has landed a tough blow.

I’m sure all the true blue R’s who complained that the Bain attack would somehow aid the D’s if Mitt was the nominee … (knowing they were going to hit that anyway) …

Will now rake Mitt over the coals for providing actual ammunition to the POTUS if Newt is the nominee. These adds don’t hit Newt for being not Republican enough. These ads provide actual Republicans cutting what will become negative ads for the Democrats, ads they could not produce themselves.

MarkCasper on January 18, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Exit quotation from Rasmussen: “Sixty-two percent (62%) of all GOP voters in the state view Romney’s business record as a reason to support him.”

Yeah, keep on attacking free market capitalism Gingrich. And when you release your financial statement, make sure you include the money you are receiving from the Obama campaign.

csdeven on January 18, 2012 at 2:45 PM

Money, honey.

Buy Danish on January 18, 2012 at 2:45 PM

The obvious escapes those who are desperate.

csdeven on January 18, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Gov. Romney’s business experience is his biggest plus for me. He should have no problem educating the public.

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 2:48 PM

So anyone in anti-Gingrich ads for Gov. Romney are strictly altruistic? Cool.

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Molinari’s beef with Gingrich has a deeply personal aspect as well. Her husband, former Rep. Bill Paxon, was a top leader in the coup to oust Gingrich in 1997. It failed. Some blame Republican leader Dick Armey, now the leader of tea-party organizer FreedomWorks, for selling out his fellow plotters when he learned that Paxon would be speaker and not him.

Paxon mysteriously soon left his post in Congress. It was never clear why

“There is a concerted effort to take Bill Paxon out before he becomes a bigger threat to Gingrich than he is,” Hill reporter Sandy Hume reported at the time, according to this Arianna Huffington. “Paxon and Armey haven’t been on speaking terms since the coup.”

Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2012/01/the-bitter-backstory-between-newt-gingrich-and-romney-backer-susan-molinari.html#storylink=cpy

MarkCasper on January 18, 2012 at 2:58 PM

Gov. Romney’s business experience is his biggest plus for me. He should have no problem educating the public.

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 2:48 PM

Not sure it works like that.

Those that can, do.

Those that can’t, teach.

Calling prof Newtron.

Gunlock Bill on January 18, 2012 at 3:13 PM

So anyone in anti-Gingrich ads for Gov. Romney are strictly altruistic? Cool.

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM

They will have to release their tax returns for us to know for sure.

Gunlock Bill on January 18, 2012 at 3:14 PM

inside baseball aside what has any of the other candidates done in an uphill fashion that even comes close to newt’s accomplishment’s
i haven’t seen anyone balance the budget lately do you really think john boy and mitch care about balancing the budget that’s why the wigs of gop want mitt. because mitt doesn’t like to do the hard things like maybe runnng against teddy as a conservative and not as he did as a super rino liberal. in that race the conservative won!

rik on January 18, 2012 at 3:15 PM

rik on January 18, 2012 at 3:15 PM

No, neither cares about balancing the budget. As I said elsewhere, the only difference in the two parties is how they spend other people’s money.

Gunlock Bill on January 18, 2012 at 3:14 PM

LOL! I’m sure we all better just buy into altruism.

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 3:18 PM

So anyone in anti-Gingrich ads for Gov. Romney are strictly altruistic? Cool.
Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Who has made that argument? The objections to Newt’s PAC are because it’s an attack on free markets one would expect from Obama. How many times does this need to be repeated?

Buy Danish on January 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM

How many times does this need to be repeated?

Buy Danish on January 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM

I guess until you convince everyone. I’m sure you are up to the task.

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 3:34 PM

the difference between newt’s attacks and mitts is no matter what the bain attacks will appear but these are republicans saying this BS about newt . before this what credible source says newt is undisiplined ? pelosi. these are personal attacks upon newt by a bunch of losers. talking about bain will be done by obama in a much more forceful and damaging way no matter who does or doesn’t bring it up now. of course when JITTERS stammers his way through the first debate trying to explain venture capitalism all you mitters will blame newt

rik on January 18, 2012 at 3:36 PM

It needs to be said… A vote for Newt Gingrich is a vote for Obama!

Newt Gingrich would be so easy for Obama to beat. We are talking about landslide here.

bluegill on January 18, 2012 at 3:43 PM

of course when JITTERS stammers his way through the first debate trying to explain venture capitalism all you mitters will blame newt

rik on January 18, 2012 at 3:36 PM

I’m sure they will try but I believe this was an attack used by Sen. Kennedy also. In spite of what is being spun, Newt didn’t invent Bain and I am sure Gov. Romney will be prepared for whatever Obama throws at him. Newt is no more anti-capitalistic than Gov. Romney is pro-Obamacare.

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 3:47 PM

Hey Peeps…..wonder why she did this for Mittens??

Read her bio here…….I will let you pick out why she did this……I will give you one clue…..what did she do after leaving congress? Hmmmmmm……MSM!!! Credibility issue? Im just saying…….
http://womenincongress.house.gov/member-profiles/profile.html?intID=174

coach1228 on January 18, 2012 at 4:04 PM

OH…Mittens is in trouble with this one folks.
This shows what he is up to…..and who he associates with.
Amazing what you can find out on Google search….

Here is another on Ms Molinari…Married to Bill Paxon…..I will cut and paste a few quotes from the article…but see for yourself click on link below….UNBELIEVABLE!!!!!!!….

A superstar from suburban Buffalo in an emerging galaxy of Republican lobbying talent, he enjoys warm relationships with President Bush and the House speaker, J. Dennis Hastert. And with the White House and Republican Congressional leaders planning to coordinate their legislative strategy carefully with trusted K Street allies, Mr. Paxon will be at one of the capital’s most influential switching stations.

Once thought of as a possible speaker of the House, he left Congress unexpectedly in 1999 to lobby after a bitter leadership battle in which he tried to oust House Speaker Newt Gingrich.

Now…is that payback?? MORE:

”He is not paid for the amount of business,” said Robert S. Strauss, the founder of the firm with the solid-gold Democratic credentials who lured Mr. Paxon into lobbying. ”It just doesn’t work that way. Bill comes in and spends two hours meeting with people and gives his judgment: ‘The government is thinking about doing this.’ ‘We can’t stand for that.’ ”

It does not hurt that Mr. Paxon is half of a lobbying power couple. His wife, the Republican former congresswoman Susan Molinari of Staten Island, whom he proposed to on the House floor in 1993, has her own lobbying firm, Susan Molinari LLC, as well as a consulting contract with the public relations firm Fleischman-Hillard.

Sorry folks….this is rotten to the core. Romney’s tenticles reach very very far into Wall Street, K Street and Democrats….. ANYTHING BUT MAINSTREET….. AT ALL. I am going with all this to the Gingrich campaign….Holy crap!!!

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/02/19/us/former-congressman-from-buffalo-leads-lobbyists-for-gop.html?ref=susanmolinari

coach1228 on January 18, 2012 at 4:26 PM

what has any of the other candidates done in an uphill fashion that even comes close to newt’s accomplishment’s

rik on January 18, 2012 at 3:15 PM

To paraphrase one of the commenters on Red State, what has either one of two done in this century?

Don’t want either one…..

jazzuscounty on January 18, 2012 at 4:40 PM

I guess until you convince everyone. I’m sure you are up to the task.
Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 3:34 PM

There has been a universal outcry from conservatives like Rush Limbaugh about this. I guess they’re not up to the task!

Buy Danish on January 18, 2012 at 4:48 PM

As a reminder:

Rush Limbaugh has called Gingrich’s attacks on Romney’s record at Bain Capital “indefensible,” “sad,” “absurd,” and “the language of leftists like Michael Moore and Oliver Stone.” Club for Growth President Chris Chocola declared them “disgusting” and called on Gingrich to “apologize to Governor Romney.” The Wall Street Journal wrote that those like Gingrich attacking Romney’s business record “are embarrassing themselves” and “taking the Obama line.”

Buy Danish on January 18, 2012 at 4:50 PM

Buy Danish on January 18, 2012 at 4:48 PM

I think they have gotten Newt to back down. I have read and heard all of those things before but oddly enough I have my own opinions. Newt is the one who has gotten hurt for the Bain tactic, not Romney. Be glad of it.

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 5:02 PM

Okay, I guess that brings us back where we started. Here:

So anyone in anti-Gingrich ads for Gov. Romney are strictly altruistic? Cool.
Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Who has made that argument? The objections to Newt’s PAC are because it’s an attack on free markets one would expect from Obama. How many times does this need to be repeated?
Buy Danish on January 18, 2012 at 3:20 PM

Buy Danish on January 18, 2012 at 5:13 PM

So, McCain’s opposition paper has finally hit the headlines. Is that Newt’s fault also?

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 5:14 PM

Buy Danish on January 18, 2012 at 5:13 PM

It wasn’t directed at you. Just a thought I had on former Rep. Molinari and my refusal to be educated. Again, not directed at you.

Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 5:18 PM

So, McCain’s opposition paper has finally hit the headlines. Is that Newt’s fault also?
Cindy Munford on January 18, 2012 at 5:14 PM

No one is making that claim. BTW, I only got as far as his college/business/Olympics days and it was all adulatory so I found it amusing.

Buy Danish on January 18, 2012 at 6:34 PM

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