Haley: No, I won’t be on the ticket this year

posted at 11:35 am on January 17, 2012 by Ed Morrissey

Is it time yet to play the Running-Mate Game? I’m sure that our friend and colleague Patrick Ishmael will be tuning up his surveys on this point, but at least for the moment, Nikki Haley says to count her out of the equation.  “I love being governor of South Carolina,” she tells CNS News, and she’s only endorsing Romney (and campaigning hard for him in the state) because she wants a “partner” in Washington who can make her state stronger rather than weaker.  Of course, that’s what all potential VP candidates are supposed to say, and perhaps especially so in Haley’s case, considering the political backlash she received from the endorsement:

The Monmouth poll from earlier today has some interesting and perhaps surprising insight into the impact of Haley’s endorsement of Romney.  Almost nine in ten respondents had heard of Haley’s endorsement, but that doesn’t mean they were impressed.  Only 8% of respondents were more likely to support Romney as a result of Haley’s backing, while 21% said they were less likely to do so.  More than two-thirds (71%) said it made no difference at all in their vote.  Tea Party supporters were slightly less critical, with only 16% saying it made them less likely to back Romney, while a third of the TP neutral/opposed said it made them less likely to support Romney.

Assuming that Romney wins the nomination — a very large assumption still at this point — Haley would definitely be a good fit for the ticket, if somewhat light on experience.  Romney will need a reliable conservative to help rally the base, and preferably someone outside of Washington.  A Southerner or Westerner would be best for geographic purposes.  Keep an eye on Susanna Martinez in New Mexico, who is also just starting her first term as governor, or Bobby Jindal in Louisiana, who is just starting his second and can afford to take three months to run on the bottom of a ticket.  And despite what Haley says, if Romney wins the nomination, she’ll certainly be on the short list.


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Good. Her shameless identity politicking and post election sell out would doom her anyway.

abobo on January 17, 2012 at 11:37 AM

Our Governo – (Haley) has yet to establish a record of success. First things first – I think she knows that.

jake-the-goose on January 17, 2012 at 11:38 AM

Rubio

50sGuy on January 17, 2012 at 11:38 AM

No you won’t. You will do exactly as you are told by the GOP elite because you are a sell-out and a traitor to the Tea Party.

That said, I wouldn’t kick you out of bed.

CorporatePiggy on January 17, 2012 at 11:39 AM

She is the political harlot of the season.

In TEA party TEA stands for taxed enough already.

Souls are indignant.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Assuming that Romney wins the nomination

Yes, Ed, Assuming.

Egfrow on January 17, 2012 at 11:39 AM

First the video goes off as the page load. Bad. I don’t think Nikki has accomplishments under her belt to rally the base. Jindal would be a good choice.

antisocial on January 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM

West/McDonnell

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Romney was a flop last night and Fox, and Ed, good Ed, are suffering this a.m….MM too. They’re all trying to mask it but don’t be fooled.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 11:41 AM

The coronation of Romney is not a given

Cigars and champagne consumption is as overrated as Obama’s unemployment and retail sales numbers.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 11:43 AM

Autoplay videos should not be featured. Just quote it and be done.

(I realize as soon as I hit “Submit Comment” I will need to exit the page or re-re-restop the video.)

Abby Adams on January 17, 2012 at 11:45 AM

The idea that Haley is being discussed for the vice-presidential slot shows just how myopic and unserious certain people are in the political vetting industry..

The woman doesn’t have 1/10th of the life experience needed to be a serious candidate for president or vice-president.

She’s a first-term governor with noting under her belt.

What a waste of media bandwidth.

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 11:46 AM

As one who worked for your election Gov.I am so disappointed with you.You told me and others that you would never support any piece of legislation or anybody that did not fully support the tea party values.Yet you could not wait to support Romney a moderate at best.You may win reelection but it will be with out my help.I will work hard to primary you.In my humble opinion you sold the tea party out.

logman1 on January 17, 2012 at 11:46 AM

All of Romney’s talking points from where he wants the tax rate to how he wants to reform Medicare to pegging our spending to 18% GDP sounds like he’s made Ryan his VP candidate.

If Newt can somehow manage to win, I’d love to see a Newt/West ticket.

cpaulus on January 17, 2012 at 11:47 AM

Rubio. Daniels. Bob McDonald

Cincy Conservative on January 17, 2012 at 11:48 AM

McDonnell

BacaDog on January 17, 2012 at 11:49 AM

It won’t be her. Jindal would be a strong choice.

changer1701 on January 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

First the video goes off as the page load. Bad. I don’t think Nikki has accomplishments under her belt to rally the base. Jindal would be a good choice.

antisocial on January 17, 2012 at 11:40 AM

Yeah, I don’t like those autoplaying videos either.

Anyhow, as to Jindal, Louisiana might be more than happy to be rid of him, even though he just won re-election handily. There are some who even though they’re pretty conservative, aren’t happy with some of his political compromises.

He’d be one to strangle the Department of Education though. He’s been putting Louisiana’s education systems through the budgetary ringer and they’ve been screaming for a few years now.

Logus on January 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Assuming that Romney wins the nomination — a very large assumption still at this point — Haley would definitely be a good fit for the ticket, if somewhat light on experience. Romney will need a reliable conservative to help rally the base, and preferably someone outside of Washington. A Southerner or Westerner would be best for geographic purposes. Keep an eye on Susanna Martinez in New Mexico, who is also just starting her first term as governor, or Bobby Jindal in Louisiana, who is just starting his second and can afford to take three months to run on the bottom of a ticket. And despite what Haley says, if Romney wins the nomination, she’ll certainly be on the short list.

First of all, the VP selection will NOT be a woman. Forget Susana Martinez. I guarantee you the GOP will be deathly afraid of a repeat of 2008 where an immensely popular, charismatic, and successful female governor was destroyed by the Democrats and media(I know, I’m being redundant) and abandoned by the leadership in her own party.

Jindal’s a pretty solid choice. He’d bring conservative cred to the ticket and is popular with the Tea Party. Plus he’s not afraid to take it to Obama as the Gulf Oil Spill episode revealed. I still don’t like the idea of Rubio on the ticket. It stinks of identity politics and pandering. Yes, he’d energize the base and reel in Latino voters(some, anyway). But he also has almost no experience and that’s gonna be an issue in this campaign. If Romney or whomever the nominee is attempts to sell electorate on Obama being in over his head, it would help to not pick a running mate with even less experience than Barry had when he decided to run for President.

Doughboy on January 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Pandering to some minority, or any, group is not a qualifier for a potential president.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

I would recommend Gov. Jindal. He does have a track record and is in his second term. (After nuking the democrats)

evilned on January 17, 2012 at 11:53 AM

No you won’t. You will do exactly as you are told by the GOP elite because you are a sell-out and a traitor to the Tea Party.

That said, I wouldn’t kick you out of bed.

CorporatePiggy on January 17, 2012 at 11:39 AM

With the amount of “class” you showed in that post I’m surprised you’re not a featured blogger at Daily Kos.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 11:53 AM

By August the single major topic will be the war with Iran. Obama will change the subject from all his other failures. I’ve said it a while ago. He’ll also be whiter than his mother and a devout Christian by then.

Meh, what will she contribute to that?

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 11:53 AM

No you won’t. You will do exactly as you are told by the GOP elite because you are a sell-out and a traitor to the Tea Party.

That said, I wouldn’t kick you out of bed.

CorporatePiggy on January 17, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Wow.

McDuck on January 17, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Good. Stay home, Nikki.

Haley used the Tea Party to advance her “moderate” agenda.
Anyone want their money back?

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on January 17, 2012 at 11:54 AM

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 11:53 AM

The first part of CP’s comment was spot-on!

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 11:54 AM

I still don’t like the idea of Rubio on the ticket. It stinks of identity politics and pandering. Yes, he’d energize the base and reel in Latino voters(some, anyway). But he also has almost no experience and that’s gonna be an issue in this campaign. If Romney or whomever the nominee is attempts to sell electorate on Obama being in over his head, it would help to not pick a running mate with even less experience than Barry had when he decided to run for President.

Doughboy on January 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

+1000

Picking Rubio would elevate shameless racial politicking over the good of the country.

There’s no way in hell that Rubio is ready to be president, and the arrogance of those who would put him so far up the contender list is beyond myopic.

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Anyone want their money back?

~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on January 17, 2012 at 11:54 AM

Let her keep the dough.

She’ll never regain her soul.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Jindal would be awesome

Love Rubio but he should bide his time

cmsinaz on January 17, 2012 at 11:56 AM

I don’t want Romney to win at all but too early will keep him from seeing the error of his ways. Go Right, young man, go Right!!!

Cindy Munford on January 17, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Romney was a flop last night and Fox, and Ed, good Ed, are suffering this a.m….MM too. They’re all trying to mask it but don’t be fooled.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 11:41 AM

Your “analysis” of Romney’s performance is not accurate. But your post in general does accurately portray the pitfalls of anti-Romney paranoia. Stop fooling yourself.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Doughboy on January 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

+ One Trillion.

Cindy Munford on January 17, 2012 at 11:57 AM

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM

Indeed. Look what sits at the top now. It will have ruined the country for generations. It will have also ruined race-relations, curiously, more than ever before.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 11:57 AM

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 11:57 AM

You’re the fooled one in this case. Carry on. I like delusional lefties and righties.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM

I don’t want Romney to win at all but too early will keep him from seeing the error of his ways. Go Right, young man, go Right!!!

Cindy Munford on January 17, 2012 at 11:56 AM

The fact of the matter is that he has been “going right” for several years now. So it’s not that he’s not “right” enough but that those who oppose him refuse to be honest about his positions in 2012.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Haley will not be on the ticket. While she’s definitely a fair-weather Tea Partier, she’s also clearly bright enough to know not to tie herself to a sinking ship. I’m expecting Romney’s VP pick will be a nonentity or someone who does not have national ambitions and doesn’t mind taking one for the team.

Doomberg on January 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Romney/Titanic 2012.

Bruno Strozek on January 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM

You’re the fooled one in this case. Carry on. I like delusional lefties and righties.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM

If it gets you through the day to think so, then do what you have to do.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Your post in general does accurately portray the arrogance of Romney adherents. Stop fooling yourself.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM

Best reconsider Haley-you will be a one term Governor when we conservatives deal with your disloyalty.Your approval rating here is lower than the Socialist One.Wonder how many more adulterous affairs will be alleged next time around.You know we believed you last time-don’t think we will be giving you a pass this time around!

redware on January 17, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Alfred E. Newman

shick on January 17, 2012 at 12:01 PM

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM

Interesting take. He still needs to move further right for me.

Cindy Munford on January 17, 2012 at 12:01 PM

So it’s not that he’s not “right” enough but that those who oppose him refuse to be honest about his positions in 2012.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 11:58 AM

We’re honest. We know he’ll change them in 2013. No worries, though, because we’ll have Obama.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Jindal would be awesome

Love Rubio but he should bide his time

cmsinaz on January 17, 2012 at 11:56 AM

Jindal is an anomaly. At 40, yes, he is ready to be president.
Jindal is brilliant. I have never in a lifetime seen someone with a mind such as his make it as far as he has.

The natural-born citizen issue is going to have to be finally addressed by the Supreme Court. They can’t dodge it any longer, as Justice Thomas actually admitted they were doing.

Because Bobby Jindal IS going to be running for president in the future, and his eligibility IS in doubt.

What’s going to really suck is when the SCOTUS waits until 0bama is re-elected – giving him a pass because they don’t want to throw America into turmoil – and then rules Jindal ineligible.

I guarantee that if Jindal runs, the Democrats are going to run to the nearest courthouse to file suit on his eligibility – without sensing one…iota….of irony.

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 12:02 PM

I would recommend Gov. Jindal. He does have a track record and is in his second term. (After nuking the democrats)

evilned on January 17, 2012 at 11:53 AM

Jindal didn’t “nuke” the Democrats in Louisiana; they primarily did it to themselves.

The handwriting has been on the wall for the Democrat Party in Louisiana for quite some time, but their slide down the slope began with Edwin Edward’s final term I suspect. Electing a lieutenant governor – which in Louisiana is nothing more than a state tourism director/advertising manager and had always been a dead end political position – to governor slid the party even more and proved history correct when she – Blanco – thoroughly bungled her part in the response to hurricanes Katrina and Rita. Cold Cash Jefferson, Chocolate Town Nagin and a slew of other Democrats didn’t help the state as it strengthened socially conservative while its economy struggled even before Katrina. Louisianians have begun to learn that Democrats are not the friend of Louisiana in general, though to be sure a substantial portion of the population will still vote Democrat on a local level because the only thing they know is living on and expecting milk from the government teat.

Logus on January 17, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Picking Rubio would elevate shameless racial politicking over the good of the country.

There’s no way in hell that Rubio is ready to be president, and the arrogance of those who would put him so far up the contender list is beyond myopic.

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 11:55 AM

He’s said as much. He doesn’t want to be VP. Also, the Latino population of the country is not like the African-American population, they don’t vote in a bloc. The candidate that many latinos like right now is Newt because of his red card stance and his focus on jobs. However, the Latino vote is still going to be around 60-40

I think the only real contenders for VP are Ryan, Daniels, Jindal, and West (only because he’s in such a tough district, otherwise he’d probably not make the cut). McDonnell doesn’t offer that much to the ticket that those other three guys don’t bring. For Romney, Ryan is the best guy because it will help him with “the vision thing.”

I’d take any of those guys to slaughter Biden in a debate.

cpaulus on January 17, 2012 at 12:03 PM

It stinks of identity politics and pandering. Yes, he’d energize the base and reel in Latino voters(some, anyway). But he also has almost no experience and that’s gonna be an issue in this campaign. If Romney or whomever the nominee is attempts to sell electorate on Obama being in over his head, it would help to not pick a running mate with even less experience than Barry had when he decided to run for President.

Doughboy on January 17, 2012 at 11:50 AM

Yups, One thing we always say about Romney is that he calculates everything, and is very careful all the time

The last thing Romney is going to do is pick either a women, or someone who hasn’t been around for a little longer then 1 year, He will not pick Rubio, Haley, Martinez, etc… He is not going to pick someone who he/we have no idea how they can handle the national media,

My bet is on either Jim DeMint, or the Gov of Virginia, (my money is on them)

OrthodoxJew on January 17, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Wonder how many more adulterous affairs will be alleged next time around.

redware on January 17, 2012 at 12:01 PM

Oh, fsck off.

Abby Adams on January 17, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Your post in general does accurately portray the arrogance of Romney adherents. Stop fooling yourself.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:00 PM

The polls support my outlook. What have you got, a tinfoil hat? Hopefully you’re serious about seeing Obama defeated and will support the GOP nominee.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Please no Rubio or Jindal. We need them where they are, and we don’t need to muddy the birther waters again. Susana Martinez is a) a supremely conservative, b) a very qualified executive, c) a Southerner, d) popular in her purple state, e) plays well to all identity-politics groups. What else to wish for?

Archivarix on January 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

If Jindal is ruled ineligible, then 0bama is ineligible, too, and everything he signed is void.

That’s going to be the game of constitutional “chicken” we see in 2016, should 0bama be re-elected.

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

Interesting take. He still needs to move further right for me.

Cindy Munford on January 17, 2012 at 12:01 PM

That’s fine. Just keep an open mind and it will all work out.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Latinos don’t vote in unison. The media don’t want to report this objectively.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Mr. Inevitable will get my general vote, just not the primary.

Cindy Munford on January 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM

You’re not kidding cane

cmsinaz on January 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM

We’re honest. We know he’ll change them in 2013. No worries, though, because we’ll have Obama.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:02 PM

Obama is counting on so-called Conservatives with your curious outlook and poor attitude. Perhaps you’re not as unhappy at having Obama for another term as you’d have people believe?

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM

As one who worked for your election Gov.I am so disappointed with you.You told me and others that you would never support any piece of legislation or anybody that did not fully support the tea party values.Yet you could not wait to support Romney a moderate at best.You may win reelection but it will be with out my help.I will work hard to primary you.In my humble opinion you sold the tea party out.

logman1 on January 17, 2012 at 11:46 AM

logman1,
I think you forget what TEA stands for…Taxed Enough Already.
Why would Mitt not be a great candidate for this? He believes in cutting taxes and has in business through making companies stronger, reducing their overbloating budgets, Fixed the Olympics through “Cutting its taxes”, and did the same in MA fixing a 3 Billion dollar deficit. You can disagree with Romney on other issues such as MA Healthcare (which was a personal responsibility issue), his change in stances to a pro-life stance, etc
BUT to say he does not represent what TEA stands for Romney is ALL for cutting our deficit and reducing the waste of taxpayer dollars in DC.

This is where I believe the TP has been taken over from its ORIGINAL intent and now seeks purity candidates…this coming from a TP supporter/member.

g2825m on January 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

I am serious but it’s a long way to the party. The Romney arrogants have pulled out the cigars/champagne way too early. It’s been ‘fun’ to watch you, but it’s also been good to get to know you.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM

She sold herself quite cheaply to Romney. Only $36K for her endorsement. I think she could have done better.

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:08 PM

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM

This proves that you’re not very observant. I wish him to go where he came from, oblivion, though that will never happen.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Mr. Inevitable will get my general vote, just not the primary.

Cindy Munford on January 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Fair enough.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

My bet is on either Jim DeMint, or the Gov of Virginia, (my money is on them)

OrthodoxJew on January 17, 2012 at 12:03 PM

Two rich old white men on the ticket….what could go wrong?

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Susana Martinez is a) a supremely conservative, b) a very qualified executive, c) a Southerner, d) popular in her purple state, e) plays well to all identity-politics groups. What else to wish for?

Archivarix on January 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

She’s been in office only a year. I know that a lot of people don’t like to acknowledge this–Cain supporters and Bachmann supporters especially–but running on a presidential ticket and then becoming the Vice President isn’t just something anyone can do, experience helps a lot.

Also, conservatives don’t need to play identity politics. They just need to articulate arguments for the good of the nation, that is, everyone regardless of your gender or ethnicity.

cpaulus on January 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Seriously? People actually think Jindal and Rubio are ineligible?

*Shakes head*

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM

She sold herself quite cheaply to Romney. Only $36K for her endorsement. I think she could have done better.

angryedschultz on January 17, 2012 at 12:08 PM

It’s trolling time, I see.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM

we don’t need to muddy the birther waters again.

[snip]

Archivarix on January 17, 2012 at 12:04 PM

The waters are already muddy. With as many children of illegal aliens we have here now, this issues will NOT go away! It will only get worse each election cycle!

Our gutless Supreme Court is going to give 0bama a judicial waiver for 2012, and allow a potentially ineligible incumbent to run for re-election, unexamined.

Until the actual physical birth certificate on file in Hawaii is subpoenaed and examined by a panel appointed by the Supreme Court, this mess is only going to get deeper. The two electronic hodge-podges released by Hawaii have reaised more questions than they have answered.

Had Hawaii released an unadulterated, single-layer, direct scan of whatever they have on file, right before Osama was killed, the issue would have gone away.

The problems with what Hawaii released are so obvious, upon even cursory examination, that the mystery as to what is actually on file with Hawaii has only deepened.

Were there an innocent explanation for all the problems with the “birth certificate” Hawaii released last year, it would have taken 5 minutes to re-scan it and release it. That didn’t happen.

Something still stinks in Honolulu.

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Cindy Munford on January 17, 2012 at 12:06 PM

Nothing is inevitable, except you’re being snookered by the elites and the media, same.

I wish Hume ill. His face is brown with caca. All others on Fox have fallen in line because he has so much sway there. It’s a huge shame.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM

[Comment deleted for multi-thread spamming, user banned — Ed]

LeeSeneca on January 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Obama is counting on so-called Conservatives with your curious outlook and poor attitude. Perhaps you’re not as unhappy at having Obama for another term as you’d have people believe?

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Here we go…

If you don’t eat the shit sandwich that the RNC has given you…..you hate America and capitalism and love Obama.

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM

It’s trolling reality time, I see.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Right…how deluded the Romney folks are…I’d be shocked if I’d not be so apathetic and schadenfreudig.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Two rich old white men on the ticket….what could go wrong?

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

There it is! The troll drops the mask and goes full MSNBC.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Seriously? People actually think Jindal and Rubio are ineligible?

*Shakes head*

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM

The only people worried about “muddying the waters” with birther stuff are conservatives who are birthers and think that it’s an actual issue. There is plenty of precedent for both Rubio and Jindal to be eligible,

cpaulus on January 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Seriously? People actually think Jindal and Rubio are ineligible?

*Shakes head*

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:10 PM

There is a legitimate question, all polemics aside.

The “natural-born citizen” clause has never been adequately adjudicated by the Supreme Court, and this issue is going to come up again and again, until it is.

I would appreciate it if you and others would look at my thoughts on this issue as honest intellectual legal inquiry, instead of casting aspersions :-)

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Drudge is also in the Romney azz, not that he’d care, but his friend Ann Coulter has told him so.

The only one who’s really kept his soul is Mark Levin.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Cicero:

Did or did not Nikki Haley get $36K from Romney?
Did or did not Kikki Haely endorse Romney?

She sold herself for $36K.

She could have done better.

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Two rich old white men on the ticket….what could go wrong?

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

There it is! The troll drops the mask and goes full MSNBC.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Slow down Sean Hannity.

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:14 PM

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Quit calling a great conservative commenter a “troll”. It makes you a big ignorant fool.

You will need all these folks to win for your boy.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

If you don’t eat the shit sandwich that the RNC has given you…..you hate America and capitalism and love Obama.

angryedschultz on January 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Well, don’t you? Here’s a hint if you want to manufacture some cred as a Conservative: Don’t do what Gingrich and Perry did and talk like an OWS vagrant.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

There is plenty of precedent for both Rubio and Jindal to be eligible,

cpaulus on January 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

But there is plenty of legitimate argument against, as well.

That’s the whole point. The issue has not been definitively adjudicated by the Supreme Court.

How retarded is it that such a supposedly advanced constitutional nation as ours can’t even agree on who is eligible to lead it. :-(

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Don’t do what Gingrich and Perry did and talk like an OWS vagrant.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

They didn’t. YOU lie better than the Obama capos.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:16 PM

There is a legitimate question, all polemics aside.

The “natural-born citizen” clause has never been adequately adjudicated by the Supreme Court, and this issue is going to come up again and again, until it is.

I would appreciate it if you and others would look at my thoughts on this issue as honest intellectual legal inquiry, instead of casting aspersions :-)

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Rubio and Jindal were born in America. They are natural born citizens. Where is the controversy?

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Well, don’t you? Here’s a hint if you want to manufacture some cred as a Conservative: Don’t do what Gingrich and Perry did and talk like an OWS vagrant.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Slow down Sean Hannity.

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Slow down Sean Hannity.

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:14 PM

I’m glad that you agree that one of us sounds like he belongs on FOX and one of us sounds like he belongs on MSNBC. Common ground.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM

You’re a great American cicero.
Love, Sean.

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM

I’m glad that you agree that one of us sounds like he belongs on FOX and one of us sounds like he belongs on MSNBC. Common ground.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM

I think for myself. You parrot the talking points of a talk show host and call that thinking.

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM

I was pretty shocked when Mr. Murdoch gave Sen. Santorum some good press. I’m sure they will mix it up enough to keep the ratings high.

Cindy Munford on January 17, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Ed, I have a question. Is HA going to participate in the the SOPA
protest tomorrow? Also due to WordPress participating, will that affect HA?

This is what I have so far:

Another reminder about the SOPA Protest starting Wed. 1/18/12.

In protest of SOPA, Wikipedia along with other internet giants Reddit, WordPress and Mozilla will participate in a 24 hour “web blackout” this Wednesday. CBS News Reports:

http://www.therightscoop.com/wikipedia-to-shut-down-for-24-hours-wednesday-in-protest-of-sopa/

I don’t know if RS has updated or not. However, this from WordPress:

http://wordpress.org/news/2012/01/help-stop-sopa-pipa/

Trying to find more current info since many websites are joining this protest.

I haven’t heard anything from HA?

bluefox on January 17, 2012 at 12:05 PM

Thanks

bluefox on January 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Quit calling a great conservative commenter a “troll”. It makes you a big ignorant fool.

You will need all these folks to win for your boy.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

Who’s the “great conservative commenter?” I thought we were talking about angryed… I expect all those who claim to want Obama defeated to support the GOP nominee. If they don’t then they have nothing to complain about if Dear Leader gets re-elected.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 12:11 PM

I’m a computer professional and I would easily testify in court that Obama’s paper is an obvious forgery, so you’re preaching to choir. However, since most Hot Air posters couldn’t tell a computer fake from their posterior, there will be a howling pandemonium of righteous rage if we keep f**king that chicken. :)

What I wanted to imply is that Obama, even if he is ineligible, was and will again be given a pass by the SCOTUS and the press; Rubio and Jindal won’t. Also, if Romney is smart (and so far I can grant him that), he will want to keep the birther argument as a last-resort nuclear weapon if he trails too badly by October.

Archivarix on January 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM

Rubio and Jindal were born in America. They are natural born citizens. Where is the controversy?

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:16 PM

Uh… that’s the whole point. Does being born in America make one a “natural-born” citizen.

Just because you SAY it, doesn’t mean that it has been adequately adjudicated. Your argument is a tautology.

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM

he only one who’s really kept his soul is Mark Levin.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Levin is the smartest guy in the room. Who is he backing ?

FlaMurph on January 17, 2012 at 12:22 PM

You’re a great American cicero.
Love, Sean.

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:18 PM

Hannity agrees with me, not the other way around! lol We’re serious about wanting Obama to be defeated in November.

cicerone on January 17, 2012 at 12:23 PM

I’m a computer professional and I would easily testify in court that Obama’s paper is an obvious forgery, so you’re preaching to choir. However, since most Hot Air posters couldn’t tell a computer fake from their posterior, there will be a howling pandemonium of righteous rage if we keep f**king that chicken.

Archivarix on January 17, 2012 at 12:20 PM

I took the time, with an open mind, to patiently and critically watch several extensive videos of computer experts walking me through the problems with the “birth certificate” that 0bama released right before he offed Osama.

There is some thing very wrong with that computer document.

It only made the problem worse, because it definitely would be torn apart in a court of law, and once the complaints arose after examining it, Hawaii didn’t say, “oh, ‘our bad,’ here’s a direct scan.”

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 12:24 PM

But there is plenty of legitimate argument against, as well.

That’s the whole point. The issue has not been definitively adjudicated by the Supreme Court.

How retarded is it that such a supposedly advanced constitutional nation as ours can’t even agree on who is eligible to lead it. :-(

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 12:15 PM

But the thing is this: there isn’t. I agree that this is something the SCOTUS should just say, “you have to be born in the United States.” The argument against Jindal and Rubio always acts as if the 14th Amendment doesn’t exist and tries to use 18th century definitions of “natural born citizen” as if that definition wasn’t affected by the amendments that came after the Constitution. One of the “intent of the founders” that many people like to disregard is the one where they created a system to change “original intent” via constitutional amendments.

Andrew Jackson was despised, if he hadn’t been eligible don’t you think Adams or Clay would have said something? They knew his family history and that was before the 14th amendment.

cpaulus on January 17, 2012 at 12:25 PM

I think Romney is so committed to the RINO/left game he will pick someone to his left in the general. If he picks a TP type, he won’t fool anyone on the right but he’ll anger the left and lose some of his “moderate” cred with the indies. There’s no upside to doing this at all.

He will pick someone nice and safe and a white man. And from a Midwest state where the I LOVE TO FIRE PEOPLE and Bain attacks will hurt him he most. He’ll need a native surrogate to fight that battle there.

Pawlenty, Mitch Daniels someone like that. Boring, predictable, good GOP/RNC solider. A younger version of Romney without the Romney baggage.

Definitely will not be Christie since he’s bound to say or do something “unsafe” on the campaign trail.

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:25 PM

Jindal is the most likely VP candidate, even moreso than Rubio or Christie. Tapping Jindal would, most importantly, reinforce Mitt’s general election campaign theme of ‘executive competence’, energize conservatives, and racially and geographically diversify the GOP ticket. And while Jindal is often referred to as a star in the GOP, he is very restrained in his choice of words and his delivery; Mitt wouldn’t have to worry about Jindal stealing the spotlight, as he would with Christie or Rubio.

Lawdawg86 on January 17, 2012 at 12:26 PM

The Supreme Court needs to demand that Hawaii produce the actual paper birth certificate and put this crap to rest. That a large percentage of Americans are allowed to fight and die and pay taxes, while wondering, rightly or wrongly, if the person directing them to do so is a usurper, is a downright shameful disgrace.

cane_loader on January 17, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Two rich old white men on the ticket….what could go wrong?

angryed on January 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Romney and Demint are not old, they sure look younger then there age

I think the republican party’s record at winning elections with 2 rich white men in the last 50 years is pretty darn good

The last one that we lost included a women, and an OLD white man

OrthodoxJew on January 17, 2012 at 12:27 PM

Levin is the smartest guy in the room. Who is he backing ?

FlaMurph on January 17, 2012 at 12:22 PM

He just analyzes the field. He was backing Santorum or Bachmann in Nov. but I think he’s for any anti-Romney.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 12:28 PM

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