Gingrich: “I would be delighted” if Santorum dropped out

posted at 3:10 pm on January 17, 2012 by Tina Korbe

Well, now, of course he would, just as, no doubt, Rick Santorum would be delighted if Newt Gingrich dropped out. The difference is that Newt said it:

Mr. Gingrich made clear that he is not asking Mr. Santorum to leave the race, but the remark reflects the boastfulness the former speaker often displays when he feels a sudden boost in momentum.

“I would be delighted if he decided to endorse me,” he told reporters here after being asked if Mr. Santorum should drop out. “I’m respectful that Rick has every right to run as long as he feels that’s what he should do. But from the standpoint of the conservative movement, consolidating into a Gingrich candidacy would, in fact, virtually guarantee victory on Saturday.”

Mr. Santorum essentially tied Mitt Romney in the Iowa caucuses and Mr. Gingrich for fourth place in last week’s New Hampshire primary. But Mr. Gingrich often says [he] is the only Republican contender who can run a national campaign besides front-runner Mr. Romney. “I don’t think Santorum could do any of that,” he said. “It’s not because he’s not a nice guy, he just doesn’t have the knowledge that I do.”

Well, yes, but neither does Gingrich have the knowledge Santorum has.

Never mind that Santorum swept Gingrich in Iowa. Never mind that the very latest count shows Santorum also edged out Gingrich in New Hampshire. Never mind that Santorum last weekend received a significant endorsement from a group of evangelical leaders or that he picked up the endorsement of a South Carolina state senator who defected from the Rick Perry camp. Gingrich had a good debate last night — so why shouldn’t Santorum be the one to endorse him and not the other way around?

To listen to Gingrich, it’s really just a question of whether Santorum and Perry want to get out now and play a part in his victory over Romney — or later, when they might actually be to blame for a Romney victory. He expounded on that theme to Laura Ingraham on her radio show.

“One of my goals over the next four days is to convince South Carolina conservatives that voting for me is the one way that they can stop a moderate from becoming the nominee. And if I can convince enough people that the other votes are for nice guys who aren’t going to win that they functionally help Romney become the nominee. … You are going to see, just as we are now down to five, we’ll be down to four or to three pretty rapidly and I think everybody agrees that of the three guys who are conservatives I am the one with the most staying power, the most resources.”

Unfortunately for Gingrich, not ”everybody” agrees he’s the candidate with the most staying power. Perhaps this argument would have been more effective when Gingrich was the undisputed frontrunner. At this point, while Gingrich still polls well nationally, a path to the nomination for Santorum exists — a path that’s at least as plausible as the path to the nomination for Gingrich. Either just needs to outlast the other.

That said, the two are obviously not perfectly interchangeable. As just one example, they have very different ideas about Social Security reform, as last night indicated. On that subject, Gingrich does present a more definite alternative to Romney. That is, Gingrich’s approach differs more widely from Romney’s than does Santorum’s.

My exit question is this: Whose approach is best? Do we move to aggressively reform Social Security, as Gingrich wants to do — even if that means slower elimination of the debt? Or do we take smaller steps as we focus primarily on taming the debt, as Santorum would prefer? As a young person, I’m tempted by Gingrich’s proposals, but Santorum’s cautions about the debt seemed to make sense, too.

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Congratulations Santorum! You win the title of Spoiler. In splitting the conservative vote, you have paved the way for another moderate nominee. How did you accomplish this feat?

Santorum: Well, being a Romney tool is not as difficult as it seems. I didn’t really do anything but ignore everything going on around me and the reality of the political process. But, I’ve made a career out of being an ignorant tool, so it came naturally. I’m proud to accept this Spoiler award on behalf of all morons within the Republican party. I’m like fingers. You can count on me. Thanks for the award.

No, thank you, Rick. It is well-deserved.

doorsxp on January 17, 2012 at 4:23 PM

America’s largest group of Hispanic Republicans endorses Gingrich
Dr Evil on January 17, 2012 at 3:56 PM

Yeah, that’ll unify all the conservatives to get behind Newt, that’s the ticket.

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Governor Romney’s already alienated a portion of Tea Party voters, are you now suggesting he doesn’t need the Hispanic vote?

Good luck winning SC and FL without them. Because you may not realize it, but a large portion of the Hispanic voting block in FL are conservatives.

Flora Duh on January 17, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Re: Newt’s electability …..
I refer everyone to Bill Kris Kristol’s latest based on latest polling from CNN and Fox:

Newt is TOXIC. HUGE unfavorable gap. Can’t do any better than Palin would do in a general. Probably worse.

Carnac on January 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM

You’re so wrong it’s scary. If you really think Newt is that “toxic,” then why did he get the standing ovations from the huge South Carolina crowd that attended the debate last night? Newt is our best and only hope of unseating Obama in the general election, for sure. Romney absolutely would not offer a stark contrast due to his timidity of moderate/liberal values/voting record.

jfs756 on January 17, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Go Rick Perry!

IcedTea on January 17, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Debates may not win elections, but Newt is the only one who continues to articulate conservative principles that ingnite passion on the right. No matter what you think about the other candindates they are each as exciting as kissing your sister. During the Fall campaign Newt may drive a few conservatives crazy from time to time, but I think he will impassion many more.

thegraydog on January 17, 2012 at 4:31 PM

Go Rick Perry!

IcedTea on January 17, 2012 at 4:30 PM

Indeed. Go Rick Perry…go back to Texas.

doorsxp on January 17, 2012 at 4:33 PM

Re: Newt’s electability …..
I refer everyone to Bill Kris Kristol’s latest based on latest polling from CNN and Fox:

Newt is TOXIC. HUGE unfavorable gap. Can’t do any better than Palin would do in a general. Probably worse.

Carnac on January 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM
You’re so wrong it’s scary. If you really think Newt is that “toxic,” then why did he get the standing ovations from the huge South Carolina crowd that attended the debate last night? Newt is our best and only hope of unseating Obama in the general election, for sure. Romney absolutely would not offer a stark contrast due to his timidity of moderate/liberal values/voting record.

jfs756 on January 17, 2012 at 4:28 PM

Correct, why anyone would cite Bill Kristol is beyond me.

Mdbills484 on January 17, 2012 at 4:34 PM

How’s that getting on the Virginia ballot working out for ya, Newt?

JPeterman on January 17, 2012 at 3:22 PM

The Ricks are not on the ballot either.

KW64 on January 17, 2012 at 4:34 PM

Newtron Gingrich, natural woman.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/newt-gingrich-natural-woman-article-1.1005912

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!

Gunlock Bill on January 17, 2012 at 4:34 PM

In Texas Perry pushed for property tax breaks for disabled vets and their widows.

“MURRELLS INLET, SC — Hoping that his military credentials will offer him a boost in South Carolina’s sizable veterans community, Texas Gov. Rick Perry on Tuesday proposed a tax break for returning wounded soldiers “to help to get their lives back.

At a VFW hall outside of Myrtle Beach, the Texas governor suggested that “post 9/11″ veterans certified as wounded by the Department of Defense should receive a five year exemption from paying a personal income tax.

If you sacrificed that much for your country, the least this country can do is give you that type of support when you come back,” he told about 50 audience members in the hall.

As the governor of Texas in 2009, Perry signed into law a full property tax exemption for veterans who are classified as 100 percent disabled.

“That’s sending the message. That’s sending the message that will last longer than a parade, that will last longer than a proclamation on the war, than a pat on the back,” he said.

After his remarks, Perry spoke at length with attendees, telling one questioner that he would seek to eliminate the Small Business Administration.

“I”d just do away with them,” he told a man who complained that the SBA was “all talk.”

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/01/17/10175720-perry-floats-income-tax-break-for-wounded-vets

workingclass artist on January 17, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Bill Kristol is an idiot, and hardly ever right about anything, but he is correct that Newt IS toxic. Other than the daily posters here at HotAir, he’s pretty much universally despised. As for his big “standing ovation”, it isn’t terribly hard to understand that the debate in Myrtle Beach was filled with ultra conservative political junkies. And Paulnuts. He might get a point or two out of it, but that’s it.

BettyRuth on January 17, 2012 at 4:40 PM

msmveritas

An insight has to be considered by taking into account, among other things, who said it. After all, they may have an agenda.

Newt is supposed to have gotten booted out by ‘conservatives’ on Capitol Hill who were alienated by him, such as Mr. Coburn. And yet, we see what an overwhelmingly good job they did promoting conservatism. They balanced the budget, they built on Newt’s welfare reform… Oh wait, no they didn’t.

Looking at Newt’s actual ACCOMPLISHMENTS, which outweigh that goof Coburn and anyone else in the GOP currently alive, and considering what a sh*t job his critics have done when in power, the criticism just doesn’t mean that much.

avgjo on January 17, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Good luck winning SC and FL without them. Because you may not realize it, but a large portion of the Hispanic voting block in FL are conservatives.
Flora Duh on January 17, 2012 at 4:27 PM

I assume you’ve been looking at the very good numbers for Romney in both SC and FL? Pro-amnesty voters have already made their choice(s), no damage to Romney.

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 4:41 PM

People are confusing bombastic one liners with conservatism, just as they have done with Chris Christy. Neither Newt or Christy are conservative. Both are to the left of Romney.

Saying Santorum should get out when Santorum has won or tied in Iowa and come in ahead of Gingrich in NH is just another reason why so many of us don’t trust or respect Gingrich. Not unlike him preaching family values to Clinton while he was also fooling around with his young staffer, who is now his third wife. The man is loathsome.

fight like a girl on January 17, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Re: Newt’s electability …..
I refer everyone to Bill Kris Kristol’s latest based on latest polling from CNN and Fox:

Newt is TOXIC. HUGE unfavorable gap. Can’t do any better than Palin would do in a general. Probably worse.

Carnac on January 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM

Funny, when someone says Governor Romney can’t win against Obama, we’re told that people are so desperate to get rid of him [BHO] that they’ll rally around Romney once he becomes the nominee, and if they have to, hold their nose to vote for him.

If the desperation to get rid of Obama is so strong, why wouldn’t they do the same if Speaker Gingrich is the nominee?

Oh, and I pay as much attention to Bill Kristol’s pontifications, as I do Nancy Pelosi’s.

Flora Duh on January 17, 2012 at 4:42 PM

Gunlock Bill 4:34

Yeah, I read that article.

I think this post by one of the commenters sez it all:

‘Tell us the truth, were you drunk when you wrote this drivel?’

Stupid article, stupid analogy, crap writing.

avgjo on January 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM

workingclass artist on January 17, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Still shilling for Perry?

Texans want him in to Texas!

Perry will win Texas…and Texas has 155 delegates. Florida delegates have been cut down to 50.

workingclass artist on January 16, 2012 at 10:27 AM

LOL!!!!

Now Perry’s support has declined by 31 points, leaving him in 3rd place at 18%. Mitt Romney at 24% and Newt Gingrich at 23%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2012/01/romney-dewhurst-lead-in-texas.html

LOL!!!

Perry losing his own state!

LOL!!!!

Gunlock Bill on January 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Newt has the debating skills to be able to turn Obama into a thousand year old toxic waste dump. No one else in the race has that ability.

astonerii on January 17, 2012 at 4:22 PM

Don’t think his “little colored boy janitor” debate shtick is gonna fly once this show goes to the National audience. I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.

FlaMurph on January 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Don’t think his “little colored boy janitor” debate shtick is gonna fly once this show goes to the National audience. I could be wrong, but I don’t think so.

FlaMurph on January 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Oh no, you’re not wrong.

BettyRuth on January 17, 2012 at 4:46 PM

Gunlock Bill 4:34

Yeah, I read that article.

I think this post by one of the commenters sez it all:

‘Tell us the truth, were you drunk when you wrote this drivel?’

Stupid article, stupid analogy, crap writing.

avgjo on January 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM

That article was very funny!!

So, you didn’t catch the humor?

Gunlock Bill on January 17, 2012 at 4:46 PM

One of the reasons lefty blogs drive me crazy is that commentators and posters seem to type whatever they feel without regard to facts. Such is the case with this thread. Gingrich poll position is determinative here. Sorry if the Rick/Rick supporters cannot see that … but it’s still true.

Santorum’s Iowa numbers have nothing to do with the race as a whole. He was 5th in NH. Is 4th out of 5 here and is barely 4th out of 5 in FL.

Newt is 2nd here, 2nd in Florida and second nation wide. In each place Santorum isn’t 3rd … he’s 4th.

Perry is last, last and last. If SC and FL go hard for Mitt … its over. Anyone who has ever looked at politics knows it is Newt now or Mitt wins.

I love Santorum … he just cannot win this thing. He has been a complete non-entity for a year and only a last minute push from Iowa preachers gave him did that.

“I know among the politically correct, you’re not supposed to use facts that are uncomfortable…”

In the end, he can only elect Mitt. That ain’t hubris, it the truth … you don’t have to like it … but its STILL true.

MarkCasper on January 17, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Gunlock Bill

Sorry, no.

Not my style, I guess.

avgjo on January 17, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Those who think that debating skills are more important than policy and principles are no better than those who gave us Obama because of his perceived oratory skills.

fight like a girl on January 17, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Nothing to see here. Newt was simply being honest. It’s refreshing in comparison to the utterly disingenuous Mitt Romney.

But I understand. You guys can’t pass up any opportunity to take a swipe at Newt.

Reggie1971 on January 17, 2012 at 4:50 PM

FlaMurph

Obama has done more damage to race relations in this country than anyone in recent memory.

People have had it with the racist, affirmative action Al Sharpton shtick. That’s why you saw the reaction you saw last night.

Newt knows what he’s doing there.

avgjo on January 17, 2012 at 4:50 PM

How to sell your conservative soul.

Pay good attention.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Those who think that debating skills are more important than policy and principles are no better than those who gave us Obama because of his perceived oratory skills.

fight like a girl on January 17, 2012 at 4:49 PM

uh- uh … let me be clear about this…..uh ..uh.. Spot on.

FlaMurph on January 17, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Those who think that debating skills are more important than policy and principles are no better than those who gave us Obama because of his perceived oratory skills.

fight like a girl on January 17, 2012 at 4:49 PM

Knowing Newt, he’d whine and pout if Obama didn’t agree to a twice weekly Lincoln/Douglas debate.

BettyRuth on January 17, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Pay good attention.

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 4:51 PM

.
If we sell our souls…. can’t we buy them back after President Romney is in office….. Doesn’t Newter have a few mea culpa’s, mulligan’s… do overs in his closet ? Certainly if Newt can see the err of his ways- so can we. Forgive and forget….No?

FlaMurph on January 17, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Perry losing his own state!

LOL!!!!

Gunlock Bill on January 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM

Do you think Mitt will carry Massachusetts in November? LOL!

monalisa on January 17, 2012 at 4:55 PM

In the end, he can only elect Mitt. That ain’t hubris, it the truth … you don’t have to like it … but its STILL true.
MarkCasper on January 17, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Hubris is thinking everybody should (or will) ditch the candidate who they support. Just because Newt wants to do a belly flop doesn’t mean everyone has to get out of the pool. Be the same with any candidate.

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 4:55 PM

“I paid for this microphone” — Ronald Reagan
“Ooooh, ahhhh” — Obama
“Wait, wait, it’s my turn to speak” — Romney

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 4:56 PM

Gunlock Bill 4:34

Yeah, I read that article.

I think this post by one of the commenters sez it all:

‘Tell us the truth, were you drunk when you wrote this drivel?’

Stupid article, stupid analogy, crap writing.

avgjo on January 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM
That article was very funny!!

So, you didn’t catch the humor?

Gunlock Bill on January 17, 2012 at 4:46 PM

A vapid and nasty screed by the Maureen Dowd of the right. Cupps has made hateful comments before about Newt, so it’s not surprising.

Reggie1971 on January 17, 2012 at 4:57 PM

Reply to MarkCasper,

Santorum was 4th in New Hampshire and is running 2nd to Romney nationwide. Please get your facts straight. Also, Newt does the worst against Obama and does not poll well outside a few southern and western states.

fight like a girl on January 17, 2012 at 4:58 PM

People have had it with the racist, affirmative action Al Sharpton shtick. That’s why you saw the reaction you saw last night.

Newt knows what he’s doing there.

avgjo on January 17, 2012 at 4:50 PM

I agree with that yes. However the MSM and the DNC will pound Racial Inequity home like there is no tomorrow. THEY need to energize their base- and the Race card does just that. Booing PBS Juan on MLK day is seen as racist to many outside our little world. Besides Hollywood won’t let you forget how bad you (Rs) treat Blacks. Go ahead and fight that perception battle. Barrels of Ink have been replaced with 24/7 Digital TV- (Sans FOX)

FlaMurph on January 17, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Anyone notice that Newt has not asked Santorum to debate him one on one? HMMM…

fight like a girl on January 17, 2012 at 5:01 PM

Gingrich, the man who is the picture of a political scoundral, is the one man that if nominated by the GOP will cause me to vote for Obama. Gingrich “frankly” should also stop using Reagan’s name, as he is “fundamentally” nothing like Ronald Reagan.

lhuffman34 on January 17, 2012 at 5:03 PM

May be if Santorum had millions of dollars spent in ads attacking him he would not have swept Iowa.

evergreenland on January 17, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Bill Kristol is an idiot, and hardly ever right about anything, but he is correct that Newt IS toxic. Other than the daily posters here at HotAir, he’s pretty much universally despised. As for his big “standing ovation”, it isn’t terribly hard to understand that the debate in Myrtle Beach was filled with ultra conservative political junkies. And Paulnuts. He might get a point or two out of it, but that’s it.

BettyRuth on January 17, 2012 at 4:40 PM

Universally despised? You really have no idea what your talking about, do you?

Reggie1971 on January 17, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Schadenfreude on January 17, 2012 at 4:56 PM

.
Well that was an uncommon air ball.

FlaMurph on January 17, 2012 at 5:03 PM

I thought the whole point of the proportionate delegates was to avoid a coronation. What’s the rush?

monalisa on January 17, 2012 at 5:04 PM

HotAir & TINA KORBE;

thanks 4 doing all you can to make RomneyCare the GOP nominee

mathewsjw on January 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM

This is why Gingrich will lose. He is a good speaker but is arrogant and nasty as all heck.

andy85719 on January 17, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Try not to confuse arrogance with honesty. NEWT PC

timberline on January 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Go with Santorum over Gingrich, despite some negatives. It’s clear where Santy stands. With Newt, with his soup of positions, it really isn’t obvious whether he’s for big or small govt. At least we know Mitt is for small govt, maybe not small enough. And while they say RCare is Mitt’s achilles heel, his adultery and ethics violations are Newt’s central characteristics.

Perry won the debate last night. He, unlike the other candidates, stands firmly, and surprisingly now, eloquently, to do away with all the things we want to do away with. It is clear now that the senior-moment episode was a distant aberration. So I still prefer Perry, and we should support him even if his numbers are low, as he has all the ingredients to make a slow rerise, to culminate in sweeping Super Tuesday victories.

anotherJoe on January 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Please get your facts straight. Also, Newt does the worst against Obama and does not poll well outside a few southern and western states.
fight like a girl on January 17, 2012 at 4:58 PM

General Election: Romney vs. Obama
ABC News/Wash Post Obama 46, Romney 48 Romney +2
General Election: Gingrich vs. Obama
ABC News/Wash Post Obama 52, Gingrich 40 Obama +12
General Election: Santorum vs. Obama
ABC News/Wash Post Obama 52, Santorum 41 Obama +11
General Election: Paul vs. Obama
ABC News/Wash Post Obama 49, Paul 42 Obama +7

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Gingrich once said that the era of Reagan was over but now says he is the Reagan conservative in the race. So, is Newt over?

fight like a girl on January 17, 2012 at 5:07 PM

And now that Santorum refuses to release his parents naturalization papers the natural born citizen headline cant be far behind. If captializim revels in creative distruction politics does not. And so Mitt will lose the election.

nicknack60 on January 17, 2012 at 5:08 PM

I assume you’ve been looking at the very good numbers for Romney in both SC and FL? Pro-amnesty voters have already made their choice(s), no damage to Romney.

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Ok, let’s say hypothetically he does win FL. Do you think the Hispanics are going to vote for him in the general if he’s blown them off in the primary?

Hispanics are very proud people and won’t take kindly to being ignored, especially if Romney decides not to attend the FL debates. Add in the stubbornness that we know some conservatives possess, and you could be looking at the nail in Romney’s coffin to take FL in the general.

But Romney supporters seem to feel secure in blowing others off and taking it for granted that people will vote for him – because they have to.

I have to prepare dinner now.

Carry on and have a good evening.

Flora Duh on January 17, 2012 at 5:09 PM

November is a long way away folks. Disregard any Obummer polls. Really. Your just encouraging this worthless exercise in “feel good”

FlaMurph on January 17, 2012 at 5:09 PM

HotAir & TINA KORBE;
thanks 4 doing all you can to make RomneyCare the GOP nominee
mathewsjw on January 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Yeah! Don’t report on what Gingrich says to the Wall Street Journal anymore!11!1!!!

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 5:10 PM

Do you think the Hispanics are going to vote for him in the general if he’s blown them off in the primary?
Flora Duh on January 17, 2012 at 5:09 PM

I think it’s a safe bet the amnesty pushers are pretty happy with Obama.

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 5:12 PM

2012 will go down as the year that the Conservative gang couldn’t shoot straight. Bachmann, Gingrish, Santorum, and Perry all took turns tearing into each other and splitting the Conservative vote. With all these politicians vying for the title of “True Conservative,” no one seemed to notice that the “True Nominee” would be Romney.

Even now, at the 11th hour, when whatever shred of a chance there is for a Conservative to defeat Romney still exists, what do we see? Consolidation of Conservatives into one strong (or at least viable) candidate? Nah. More posturing and more lack of reality. More elbowing for position and more splintering of the Conservative vote. And every day the more likely outcome: Romney as nominee.

EMD on January 17, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Do you think Mitt will carry Massachusetts in November? LOL!

monalisa on January 17, 2012 at 4:55 PM

Do you think Perry will carry Texas in November?

No!!!

He won’t be running in November!!

LOL!!!!

Gunlock Bill on January 17, 2012 at 5:15 PM

Do you think Perry will carry Texas in November?

No!!!

He won’t be running in November!!

LOL!!!!

Gunlock Bill on January 17, 2012 at 5:15 PM

You’re right. Perry will be the Governor of Texas, while Mitt will have just lost his 3rd major election.

Romney will be unemployed.

portlandon on January 17, 2012 at 5:30 PM

Do you think Mitt will carry Massachusetts in November? LOL!

i live in mass. and will vote for Mitt but no he will not carry mass.

gerrym51 on January 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM

You’re right. Perry will be the Governor of Texas, while Mitt will have just lost his 3rd major election.

Romney will be unemployed.

portlandon on January 17, 2012 at 5:30 PM

And he’ll still be making more money than all of us…

it so sucks to be a smart savvy businessman.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on January 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM

I would be delighted if Newt cracks up with a full blown Captain Queeg melt down at this next debate.

borntoraisehogs on January 17, 2012 at 5:40 PM

“No kidding.”

heh

kunegetikos on January 17, 2012 at 5:45 PM

Do you think Mitt will carry Massachusetts in November?

i live in mass. and will vote for Mitt but no he will not carry mass.
gerrym51 on January 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Both he and Obama already have one win each in MA, I’d say the odds don’t look bad.

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 5:45 PM

i live in mass. and will vote for Mitt but no he will not carry mass.

gerrym51 on January 17, 2012 at 5:33 PM

Agreed. I can’t see any scenario in which Romney wins Mass. Unless of course he mandates it.

Just Sayin on January 17, 2012 at 5:46 PM

doorsxp on January 17, 2012 at 4:23 PM

Congratulations SantorumGingrich! You win the title of Spoiler. In splitting the conservative vote, you have paved the way for another moderate nominee. How did you accomplish this feat?

SantorumGingrich: Well, being a Romney tool is not as difficult as it seems. I didn’t really do anything but ignore everything going on around me and the reality of the political process. But, I’ve made a career out of being an ignorant tool, so it came naturally. I’m proud to accept this Spoiler award on behalf of all morons within the Republican party. I’m like fingers. You can count on me. Thanks for the award.

No, thank you, Rick Newt. It is well-deserved.

doorsxp on January 17, 2012 at 4:23 PM

listens2glenn on January 17, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Both he and Obama already have one win each in MA, I’d say the odds don’t look bad.

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 5:45 PM

His approval ratings were in the toilet when his term ended. I doubt they’ve improved.

Just Sayin on January 17, 2012 at 5:47 PM

Yep, all 17 of them.

xxessw on January 17, 2012 at 3:59 PM
Actually, I think there’s 19 of us now.
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Btw: If and when Perry drops out my support is grudgingly going to…Romney.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 17, 2012 at 5:54 PM

I guess what I am trying to do is figure out how Hot Air became such a cesspool full of nothing but Romney backers? Romney is not a very good candidate, and quite frankly the idea that ever single person that runs this webpage has suddenly been smitten with perpetual idolization of Romney and detest for every other candidate that ever gets to the position of threatening him.

You know, when Perry supporters argued that Hot Air was against him for the fact they wanted to take him down and were not ragging on him for his issues, I thought, no, these issues are important. Same goes with Cain, who I viciously attacked, but because in my gut I knew he had done things that were well beyond his canned response of he did nothing “inappropriate” with any women. Then I thought that the attacks were justified. Then Newt was next in line, and the attacks of course came, and I thought at that time that it was justifiable attacks, even though he was my guy. But now, I have to say, I feel really bad about telling those Perry and Cain supporters that it was just the expected attacks on issues that were legitimate. I no longer feel that way and it is not because my guy is under attack, I expect him to be, but the level of outright bias in how the moderators here at Hot Air slather on nefarious thoughts for nominally normal activities on Newt, I no longer give them the credit of the doubt.

astonerii on January 17, 2012 at 3:58 PM

I hear you. I just joined recently to comment after reading here for several years, and I’m shocked at the blatant bias for Romney and vitriolic hatred for Newt.

What’s up with that?

IndeCon on January 17, 2012 at 6:05 PM

Perry losing his own state!

LOL!!!!

Gunlock Bill on January 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM

What is Perry doing in the race still? He is helping Mitt win by splitting the vote. The MittBots should be thanking the delusion wing of the St Perry the Victimized congregation.

DROP OUT NOW RICK PERRY. He stays cause he craves attention.

SparkPlug on January 17, 2012 at 6:08 PM

HotAir & TINA KORBE;

thanks 4 doing all you can to make RomneyCare the GOP nominee

mathewsjw on January 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Sad, but true.

IndeCon on January 17, 2012 at 6:10 PM

Sorry if this sounds off topic, but Calista ruins Newt for me. I know we are not supposed to vote for a package deal, but sometimes that is what we get. We got it with the Clintons, and I think we got it with the Obamas. I just cannot fathom a first lady who has the reputation as a homewrecker. Forgive me if I sound petty.

Ok, rant off.

jazzuscounty on January 17, 2012 at 6:15 PM

One of the reasons lefty blogs drive me crazy is that commentators and posters seem to type whatever they feel without regard to facts. Such is the case with this thread. Gingrich poll position is determinative here. Sorry if the Rick/Rick supporters cannot see that … but it’s still true.

Santorum’s Iowa numbers have nothing to do with the race as a whole. He was 5th in NH. Is 4th out of 5 here and is barely 4th out of 5 in FL.

Newt is 2nd here, 2nd in Florida and second nation wide. In each place Santorum isn’t 3rd … he’s 4th.

Perry is last, last and last. If SC and FL go hard for Mitt … its over. Anyone who has ever looked at politics knows it is Newt now or Mitt wins.

I love Santorum … he just cannot win this thing. He has been a complete non-entity for a year and only a last minute push from Iowa preachers gave him did that.

“I know among the politically correct, you’re not supposed to use facts that are uncomfortable…”

In the end, he can only elect Mitt. That ain’t hubris, it the truth … you don’t have to like it … but its STILL true.

MarkCasper on January 17, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Exactly, thank you! It’s Newt now, or Mitt wins. It’s that simple.

IndeCon on January 17, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Newt’s my candidate.

AsianGirlInTights on January 17, 2012 at 6:18 PM

Good luck winning SC and FL without them. Because you may not realize it, but a large portion of the Hispanic voting block in FL are conservatives.

Flora Duh on January 17, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Aren’t Cubans in Florida honorary whites according to the Left?

thuja on January 17, 2012 at 6:20 PM

I would be delighted if Newt cracks up with a full blown Captain Queeg melt down at this next debate.
borntoraisehogs on January 17, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Aha – but the strawberries! That’s where I got them!

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Establishment Fatboy if you want to get rid of the Frothy Mixture American taliban jut print up a fake license to “hunt them thar Homo-sex-uals” That would get that big government loving christian fascist closet case to quit this doomed pipe dream of his…and yours for that matter.

Your Mamma loves me on January 17, 2012 at 6:23 PM

Both he and Obama already have one win each in MA, I’d say the odds don’t look bad.
whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 5:45 PM

His approval ratings were in the toilet when his term ended. I doubt they’ve improved.
Just Sayin on January 17, 2012 at 5:47 PM

I think when it’s the homeboy vs. not-homeboy, there is a shift in the dynamics. Might be less in a liberal state such as MA, but who could’ve figured Kennedy’s seat would go to Scott Brown?

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 6:27 PM

Obama in November: “Mitt turned me into a Newt!”

Roy Rogers on January 17, 2012 at 7:04 PM

I would be delighted if Newt cracks up with a full blown Captain Queeg melt down at this next debate.

borntoraisehogs on January 17, 2012 at 5:40 PM

Yep, he’s got his ball bearings to roll around in his hand.

csdeven on January 17, 2012 at 7:21 PM

Newt is correct, because Santorum cannot win. Santorum knows it. We all know that he could not go head to head against the Unions, and they are who we are running against.

We need a strong woman to run this race. S.E. Cupp jumped the shark for Glenn Beck. And declared Newt the winner.

Key West Reader on January 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM

May be if Santorum had millions of dollars spent in ads attacking him he would not have swept Iowa.

evergreenland on January 17, 2012 at 5:03 PM

Yes, Obama will go much easier on the nominee than those mean superPACs in Iowa.

That just goes to show how fragile Newt is.

1punchWill on January 17, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Newt Gingrich is the laughingstock of the Republican party.

1punchWill on January 17, 2012 at 7:31 PM

Newt is correct, because Santorum cannot win.
Key West Reader on January 17, 2012 at 7:24 PM

Neither can Newt. Mexican standoff, at best.

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 7:32 PM

Rasmussen South Carolina 2012 GOP Primary Poll Jan 16th

* Mitt Romney 35%
* Newt Gingrich 21%
* Rick Santorum 16%

If Rick drops out 88% of his vote would have to go to Newt to catch Mitt. In reality that won’t happen, regardless of what some commenters may suppose. 88% of Ricks people think Newt is an arrogant jerk now.

hanzblinx on January 17, 2012 at 7:36 PM

That’s because Newt is in actuality an arrogant jerk. He waves his arms around on stage like he just ran a 60 yard touchdown and speaks in nothing but punchlines – never saying what he’ll actually do to solve any problem.

He doesn’t care a stitch about conservatism unless he’s put in charge of it, and even then it won’t be “conservatism” for long.

1punchWill on January 17, 2012 at 7:40 PM

jazzuscounty on January 17, 2012 at 6:15 PM

my jaw hit the floor. how DARE you!

GhoulAid on January 17, 2012 at 7:48 PM

I think when it’s the homeboy vs. not-homeboy, there is a shift in the dynamics. Might be less in a liberal state such as MA, but who could’ve figured Kennedy’s seat would go to Scott Brown?

whatcat on January 17, 2012 at 6:27 PM

You could be right, but I have to say that I would be shockEd if Romney won MA.

With respect to Brown, and I do not mean to take anything away from his accomplishment: his opponent Martha Coakley ran one of the most incompetent campaigns in the history of the state. Truly, truly awful. The kind of awful where you sit back in stunned silence, unable to comprehend what is unfolding in front of you. But Brown’s team and grassroots supporters and activists were AMAZING, so please don’t think I’m trying to slight them or what he did. I’m not. Unfortunately, he’s going to have trouble this time around. His challenger is Elizabeth Warren, and she is cut out of the same cloth as Obama and Jarrett. She’s a dangerous opponent, but will be even more dangerous if elected. Brown hasn’t really endeared himself to conservatives, but to me defeating Warren is as important as defeating Obama – she’s that bad – so I intend to do whatever I can for the cause.

Just Sayin on January 17, 2012 at 7:50 PM

If Gingrich, Santorum and Perry can’t beat Romney and win a state, then there’s no way they can beat Obama in the fall. Gingrich claims he is the most electable but if his message doesn’t resonate with Republican voters then I don’t believe for a second he’s suddenly going to start winning over independents and moderates.

fed-nad on January 17, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Uh, dare what?

jazzuscounty on January 17, 2012 at 7:54 PM

speaking ill of Callista.

GhoulAid on January 17, 2012 at 7:57 PM

Newt Gingrich – Natural Woman. LOL

1punchWill on January 17, 2012 at 8:01 PM

Governor Romney’s already alienated a portion of Tea Party voters, are you now suggesting he doesn’t need the Hispanic vote?

Flora Duh on January 17, 2012 at 4:27 PM

Hey, appropriately-named Ms. Duh,

It’s time for you to come out of fantasyland. Romney is WINNING the voters who are self-described Tea Party supporters. I know you don’t like to let the facts get in the way of your Romney-bashing, but it wouldn’t hurt you to spend some time in reality now and then.

The “Hispanic Caucus” or whatever the heck that group is speaks for almost no one. We shouldn’t take seriously groups that define themselves by their race or skin color, anyway.

The fact is that Romney is the best candidate. He is winning most age and ideology categories. Polls have shown that voters are more enthusiastic about Romney than any other Republican. Even in Iowa more voters (over 80%) were either enthusiastic or very enthusiastic about Romney… the most of all the Republicans running.

Romney/Rubio will likely be the ticket, and it is a winner!

bluegill on January 17, 2012 at 8:05 PM

HotAir & TINA KORBE;

thanks 4 doing all you can to make RomneyCare the GOP nominee

mathewsjw on January 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM

Sure. There aren’t any controversial threads ever thrown up about Romney that paint him in a bad light. Never. Nope.

hawkdriver on January 17, 2012 at 8:18 PM

Newt and Santorum should just “rock paper scissors” it.

joe_doufu on January 17, 2012 at 8:21 PM

Newt is TOXIC. HUGE unfavorable gap. Can’t do any better than Palin would do in a general. Probably worse.

Carnac on January 17, 2012 at 4:18 PM

People like you have been using that logic against conservatives.

Republican Party doesn’t own my conservative vote. If Romney wins the election. He’s your problem not mine.

So Good luck!

If Romney, the Pinoccio Nominee, loses the general election, THERE WILL BE A GENERAL REVOLT AGAINST THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

WATCH IT LIVE AFTER THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER.

For the meantime, for all republicans out there, try to reflect on this American Thinker piece:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/01/mitt_romney_the_last_republican_president.html

TheAlamos on January 17, 2012 at 8:25 PM

Sure. There aren’t any controversial threads ever thrown up about Romney that paint him in a bad light. Never. Nope.

hawkdriver on January 17, 2012 at 8:18 PM

HA could endorse Newt da Hutt and still those posters would complain that they’re in the tank for Roms.

Meanwhile a neutral article about the guy who spent the first portion of his presidential campaign cruising around on a luxury liner gets all the true believers worked into an enraged fury.

1punchWill on January 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM

i support santorum over gingrich. gingrich is good in debates but everywhere else, he annoys me.

Sachiko on January 17, 2012 at 9:45 PM

To delay and perhaps sink a Romney nomination…

1. Gingrich needs to win SC (I’d prefer Santorum, but right now the ONLY one able to take the top spot from Romney is Gingrich)
2. Sarah Palin endorsement of Newt (which she basically just did)
3. Perry needs to drop out and endorse either Santorum or Newt
4. Someone needs to “Lee Atwater” Romney’s past…it’s apparent that a DUII, mistress, or other embarrassment is in the DNC’s possession. Start first with Al Gore–NOBODY does deep research better than this him and his connections. NOBODY.
5. Next SC debate everyone needs to keep Rommeny on the defensive again while highlighting Paul’s disasterous foreign policy.
6. Gingrich and Santorum need to talk off-line re: way-ahead for nomination and come to an agreement post-SC.
7. Get this to Florida

Deep Timber on January 17, 2012 at 10:02 PM

It is as simple as this.

McCann at AT is right on.

“The current governing class and in particular the Republican establishment is treating this election cycle as if it were no different from any other during the past sixty years. Their reaction to the Tea Party movement is indicative of this mindset, as they choose to denigrate and dismiss this grassroots uprising as just another passing crusade by conservative ideologues. They fail to understand that the appeal of Ron Paul is that he is willing to stick it to the ruling class. The primary concern of the establishment, either Republican or Democrat, is to retain power through the control of the purse strings, and to put off any difficult decisions while “compromising” with the opposition.”

The campaign strategy of Mitt Romney mirrors that of all the past moderate nominees chosen by the Party. The formula:

(1) speak the language of the conservative majority in the Party,
(2) claim only a moderate can get elected,
(3) divide the vote among the conservatives running for the nomination,
(4) mobilize the media to destroy any real conservative challenger, and
(5) overwhelm these same challengers with money from the deep-pocket establishment contributors (much of it funneled through persons from banking and financial institutions using the fractional-reserve, fiat money mechanism to generate as much money as is needed).

Perry and Santorum should drop out. They just do not have the broad knowledge needed to be effective. Otherwise we are going to get another George Herbert Walker Bush! “Mitt Romney, by his actions in Massachusetts both campaigning for the U.S. Senate and as Governor, has shown himself to be more than willing to compromise with the Left and the Democrats. He has proposed and passed the socialist RomneyCare policy, pro-abortion regulations, and gun control, and raised numerous taxes and fees while increasing spending dramatically. During the current campaign he refuses to call Barack Obama what he is; instead Romney refers to him as just “being over his head.”"

It irritates me beyond belief just thinking about where this country is heading.

Falcon46 on January 17, 2012 at 10:28 PM

Newt gets 3 debates if he’s lucky…where the cameras are on and he shines. Then the media will ignore him, and everything else will be a political tsunami!

KOOLAID2 on January 17, 2012 at 10:31 PM

If only Newt would learn to better control his mouth. DD

Darvin Dowdy on January 17, 2012 at 10:47 PM

Go with Santorum over Gingrich, despite some negatives. It’s clear where Santy stands. With Newt, with his soup of positions, it really isn’t obvious whether he’s for big or small govt.

Santorum’s view of what is an acceptable size for government is far more concerning to me than I would prefer — however it is far less concerning than Newt’s or Romney’s.

What bothers me most about Newt is that he talks out of both sides of his mouth, but does so in extremes. To hear him one day he’s the heir-apparent to Reagan, whisked lightly with Lincoln, and with just a pinch of deep-cutting Coolidge. The next day, he’s waxing eloquent about his deep admiration for the way FDR wielded executive power and the way Wilson approached foreign relations.

Even where I don’t agree with them, I’m pretty sure I know where Romney stands on issues and I feel really sure I know where Santorum stands. But Newt…well, he talks a good game until he starts to feel some momentum again, at which point he promptly reverts to being an elitist prick.

Perry won the debate last night. He, unlike the other candidates, stands firmly, and surprisingly now, eloquently, to do away with all the things we want to do away with. It is clear now that the senior-moment episode was a distant aberration. So I still prefer Perry, and we should support him even if his numbers are low, as he has all the ingredients to make a slow rerise, to culminate in sweeping Super Tuesday victories.

anotherJoe on January 17, 2012 at 5:05 PM

I like (don’t love, but like) Perry. Unfortunately, he’s now polling third in Texas. In Texas.

Furthermore, his actions since NH have stunk to the high heavens of desperation. First the ham-fisted attack on Romney which tried to demonize him as a (*gasp*) capitalist. And then today the repeated references to Santorum’s Catholicism in Protestant-heavy SC (which recalls Huckabee’s disgraceful 2008 Mormon-baiting to hurt Romney in Iowa & the South).

These, like his Turkey comments in an otherwise solid debate performance, are the actions of a desperate man flailing for relevance, media face-time, and money.

Harpazo on January 17, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Establishment Fatboy if you want to get rid of the Frothy Mixture American taliban jut print up a fake license to “hunt them thar Homo-sex-uals” That would get that big government loving christian fascist closet case to quit this doomed pipe dream of his…and yours for that matter.

Your Mamma loves me on January 17, 2012 at 6:23 PM

You’re a hateful lot.

hawkdriver on January 18, 2012 at 12:48 AM

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