Open thread: The “I can’t believe they’re having another debate” debate

posted at 8:34 pm on January 16, 2012 by Allahpundit

9 p.m. ET on Fox News. If you’ve been reading the site today, you already know what to expect. Santorum will attack Romney for being an Obama clone, Gingrich will attack both of them for being unelectable, and Romney, I suppose, will attack Newt for his Bain criticism — all of which will be punctuated by grumbling about how unfair the other guy’s Super PAC is. Then Ron Paul will say something about the Fed and Perry will say something self-deprecating, and we’ll rinse and repeat. For two hours.

Philip Klein dares to think a terrible, terrible thought. I’m entitling this blockquote, “What if the tea party never existed?”

Is there anything stopping [Romney] from sweeping all 50 states?

Think about it. Romney has a commanding lead in Florida, and will simply obliterate the field if he enters the Sunshine State after having won South Carolina. And if he does win South Carolina and Florida, what will become of the rest of the field? Rick Perry, who came in fifth in Iowa and bailed on New Hamphshire, already has very little justification for continuing. A distant finish in South Carolina would give him even less reason. It’s true that there are states in which Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich can theoretically beat Romney, but if they can’t beat him in South Carolina, where will they go from there? Even now, Romney has a 23-point lead nationally, according to Gallup.

Sure, perhaps Rep. Ron Paul’s fervent supporters can out-hustle Romney’s organization in a caucus here or there. But it’s also possible that Romney will run the table. Remember, as the field gets narrowed, it’ll get a lot harder for Paul to outright win a state, because he’ll have to start getting into the 40-50-plus point range.

Skim this LA Times piece for a reminder of what makes Klein’s scenario plausible. It’s not just that Romney’s national organization is so solid; it’s that, apart from Ron Paul, he’s the only candidate who even has a national organization. And since I’m beating a dead horse by making that point again, let me beat another one by reminding you that even a Romney loss in South Carolina is unlikely to put Florida in play. PPP’s new poll tonight shows Mitt leading Gingrich there 41/26, and by an even wider margin among voters who say they’ve made up their minds. His favorables are 68/24 generally — better than in Iowa, New Hampshire, or South Carolina — and 70/18 on the narrower issue of his business record. So much for the Bain attacks. In fact, I’m curious to see whether Gingrich brings up Bain tonight or whether Romney himself does. That’ll be the best evidence yet of what the campaigns’ internal polling shows on this issue. Do note that Newt conspicuously passed on a golden opportunity to hit Romney on it yesterday.

Here’s the Hot Air/Townhall livetweet widget. Fox is going to solicit Twitter feedback tonight during the debate to track whether viewers think a candidate is answering a question or dodging it, so there’s one way to kinda sorta amuse yourself as debate fatigue sets in circa 9:05. Exit question: Is it racist to give money to someone in need? It is on MSNBC, apparently.



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Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

What I say is irrelevant. The birther standard has to be applied to Romney

liberal4life on January 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

The birthers say Obama’s father is Kenyan so it means he is ineligible

liberal4life on January 16, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Then by your own admission, the birthers are smarter than you.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

The terrorists have been attacking the United States since 712…they really do hate us!

deuce on January 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

They have been attacking our philosophical brethren since the 700′s and because we do not worship as they worship we are their enemy. There is nothing we can do to stop that and there is nothing we can do to increase it outside of annihilating their entire populations. Sans doing that, we can just keep them weak enough to pose a minor nuisance.

astonerii on January 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM

The pain at Bain is mainly in your brain.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Romney says he goes hunting. Since when did millionaires go hunting?

liberal4life on January 16, 2012 at 10:57 PM

I would like for you to go hunting with Dick Cheney.
I’ll come with…to trip Dickie!

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM

You ARE biased.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:12 PM

Yes, I dislike candidates who talk out of both sides of their mouth and exhibit a fundamental lack of honesty.

Mitt just can’t help himself.

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Newt won, but the fact that he transformed back from nasty Newt in so short a time makes me worry that he has some sort of psychological disorder. Bipolarism, perhaps. In any case, it’s likely all academic at this point.

andy85719 on January 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

How the HANG can a house cat ingest a scorpion?

listens2glenn on January 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

You’ll have to ask my cat.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

GOPRanknFile on January 16, 2012 at 11:04 PM

Whiny, big government loving Santorum in second? LOL. We weren’t watching the same debate, obviously.

Aslans Girl on January 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

annihilating their entire populations. Sans doing that, we can just keep them weak enough to pose a minor nuisance.

astonerii on January 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM

Yes!!!

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Here I sit listening to the author of socialized medicine accusing O of adopting socialist policies. Got to be a bad dream.

Typhonian on January 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

What I say is irrelevant. The birther standard has to be applied to Romney

liberal4life on January 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Can we apply it to Obama first?

Archivarix on January 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

The birthers say Obama’s father is Kenyan so it means he is ineligible

liberal4life on January 16, 2012 at 11:12 PM

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That is one respected, influential group you are relying on there! Much like Democrats, I think.

ExpressoBold on January 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

How the HANG can a house cat ingest a scorpion?

listens2glenn on January 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

listens2glenn:Have you seen the size of its kitty!!
(I’m kidding):)

canopfor on January 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM

1. Newt (standing ovation!)
2. Perry (the outsider!)
3. Santorum (whiny but somewhat effective)
4. Mitt’s usual hedging, deflecting and disingenuousness (but hey, maybe I’m biased against that kind of thing!) ;-)
5. Ron Paul (what can one say)

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

That is how I would rank them:-)

bluefox on January 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM

1. Newt (standing ovation!)
2. Perry (the outsider!)
3. Santorum (whiny but somewhat effective)
4. Mitt’s usual hedging, deflecting and disingenuousness (but hey, maybe I’m biased against that kind of thing!) ;-)
5. Ron Paul (what can one say)

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

In a rational world, this would be the polling numbers.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Yes, I dislike candidates who talk out of both sides of their mouth and exhibit a fundamental lack of honesty.

Mitt just can’t help himself.

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM

“fundamental lack of honesty” is what Newt’s whole life is about.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:18 PM

Here I sit listening to the author of socialized medicine accusing O of adopting socialist policies. Got to be a bad dream.

Heritage Foundation?

therightwinger on January 16, 2012 at 11:18 PM

OT: Hannity sucks in the post-debate wrap up.

Conservatives deserve better coverage from Fox News.

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Does anyone know why Santorum is so whiny in debates?

I don’t remember him being whiny like this when he was in the Senate.

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:19 PM

listens2glenn:Have you seen the size of its kitty!!
(I’m kidding):)

canopfor on January 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM

No need to kid, this is Texas after all.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:19 PM

That said, I can’t stand his twin sister, Janet Napolitano. She and Fred Savage’s twin sister, Rachel Maddow, drive me crazy.

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

You owe me a new monitor.

Just Sayin on January 16, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Dear Sean: Please…Color your hair, knock off 15 years or more PLEAASSEE!!! Too much salt!

ProudPalinFan on January 16, 2012 at 11:19 PM

What I say is irrelevant. The birther standard has to be applied to Romney

liberal4life on January 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Can we apply it to Obama first?

Archivarix on January 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Romney doesn’t have a birther problem. His father was an American citizen, and never held Mexican citizenship.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM

1. Newt (standing ovation!)
2. Perry (the outsider!)
3. Santorum (whiny but somewhat effective)
4. Mitt’s usual hedging, deflecting and disingenuousness (but hey, maybe I’m biased against that kind of thing!) ;-)
5. Ron Paul (what can one say)

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:11 PM

In a rational world, this would be the polling numbers.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 16, 2012 at 11:17 PM

Debate performance do not = poll positions, nor should they. I understand that probably wasn’t your intention, but at the end of day, Newt and Romney are RINOs, Santorum is a fiscal liberal, Paul is a libertarian, and Perry is somewhat the most conservative, but still has issues withing his campaign.

Aizen on January 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Ron Paul actually brought up a good distinction between Al Qaeda and the Taliban. While both are our enemy today, the Taliban’s only real “threat” was keeping bin Laden from being captured by American forces, which led us to invade and occupy for so many years. Still, I think that distinction is an important one to be brought to the forefront, so people understand the 9/11 hijackers, and most of the radical Islamic terrorists that want to come here and murder Americans are involved with Al Qaeda.

Aizen on January 16, 2012 at 11:14 PM

Do you forget WHY we went to Afghanistan? If so, it’s because the Taliban was allowing Al Qaeda to train and operate from within Afghani borders.

The Taliban DESERVED to get whacked. And hasn’t changed its ways.

Murf76 on January 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM

H*llavu good pointy,me thinks,it’ll be
saved for in the General,with a fleeting
MSM ignored sound-bitey against Hopey!:)

canopfor on January 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

It’s the thousand pound turd in the room that no one wants to talk about right now, but the smell is causing everyone to vomit…

… Maybe because the hearings are ongoing, I don’t know, but it needs to become the next American Idol!

Seven Percent Solution on January 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Romney doesn’t have a birther problem. His father was an American citizen, and never held Mexican citizenship.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Dude, you are so bringing down lib’s high.

Its on a roll.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:21 PM

OT: Hannity sucks in the post-debate wrap up.

Conservatives deserve better coverage from Fox News.

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:19 PM

I’m sick of Hannity in general and finally switched from his radio show to Sullivan’s, but his post-debate coverage seems fine to me. What’s wrong with it?

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Missed the debate, but just from glancing at this page, I gather, cats do eat scorpions and Newt and Perry did well?

Fallon on January 16, 2012 at 11:22 PM

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:19 PM

agree…i’ve stopped watching his show recently…it’s mainly special report that i watch religiously…

cmsinaz on January 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Romney doesn’t have a birther problem. His father was an American citizen, and never held Mexican citizenship.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM

He was born in a different country.

Natural born means being born on an American base or in the US according to birther Orly Taitz.

Romney father regardless of his citizenship status was not born in the US which means Romney is not “natural born” according to the birtheres

liberal4life on January 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Do you forget WHY we went to Afghanistan? If so, it’s because the Taliban was allowing Al Qaeda to train and operate from within Afghani borders.

The Taliban DESERVED to get whacked. And hasn’t changed its ways.

Murf76 on January 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM

Uh, you left out harboring some guy named Osama, or something like that.

I was all for bombing them when they took out the giant Buddhas.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Dude, you are so bringing down lib’s high.

Its on a roll.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:21 PM

Libs don’t care or need facts. The seriousness of the charge is what matters.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM

How the HANG can a house cat ingest a scorpion?

listens2glenn on January 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

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The feline carefully excises the stinger and then chews the arachnid to crush the exoskeleton. That’s how. Only thing is, where does kitty get the scalpel to perform the excision?

ExpressoBold on January 16, 2012 at 11:24 PM

They have been attacking our philosophical brethren since the 700′s and because we do not worship as they worship we are their enemy. There is nothing we can do to stop that and there is nothing we can do to increase it outside of annihilating their entire populations. Sans doing that, we can just keep them weak enough to pose a minor nuisance.

astonerii on January 16, 2012 at 11:15 PM

What do we define as a minor nuisance and where does risk analysis come into play weighing out the loss of blood and money over the past decade? They were a minor nuisance up to 911. 911 was a game changer and should have changed how we address the issue for sure, but when is the cost too much? To say “at all costs” is not an answer based in reality. Better intelligence and targeted kills and removing of terrorists abroad we need more of for sure. We cannot live under the false hope that we can finance never ending wars across the world though, blood is prescious and money doesn’t grow on trees.

deuce on January 16, 2012 at 11:24 PM

You owe me a new monitor.

Just Sayin on January 16, 2012 at 11:19 PM

Heck, I howl every time I type that line!

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Perry wanted to be a contender, but as it turned out he was a great pretender.

He should drop out NOW. But he won’t because he craves attention.

SparkPlug on January 16, 2012 at 11:24 PM

That thread picture is classic. Why is it every time I see/hear Romney laugh his fake hardy-har-har politician laugh do I want to go out and kick a puppy?

He’s like the cheesy character actor that plays the snobbish, overly wealthy, country-club, ascot-wearing, yacht-driving, I have 6 homes – white-guy everyone loves to hate in movies?

Yea, Romney is Thurston Howell, III.

rgrovr on January 16, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Natural born means being born on an American base or in the US according to birther Orly Taitz.

liberal4life on January 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Well there’s your problem. You get your information from nutball crap sources.

Actually, that explains a lot about you.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Newt won, but the fact that he transformed back from nasty Newt in so short a time makes me worry that he has some sort of psychological disorder. Bipolarism, perhaps. In any case, it’s likely all academic at this point.

andy85719 on January 16, 2012 at 11:16 PM

Newt had a lot of good responses, but to say he “won” is an over-statement. He looked pretty goofy when he was taking Mitt to task for his inability to control his pac, all the while he’s been claiming all week that he’s got no influence over the utterly disgraceful performance of his own.

Murf76 on January 16, 2012 at 11:25 PM

He was born in a different country.

Natural born means being born on an American base or in the US according to birther Orly Taitz.

Romney father regardless of his citizenship status was not born in the US which means Romney is not “natural born” according to the birtheres

liberal4life on January 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM

You even got that part wrong. You don’t need a natural-born father to be natural-born, otherwise nobody would ever be natural-born except for native americans. You just need a citizen father and mother.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Gosh I thought they ALL did good tonight.
Gingrich and Perry the strongest.
How I love it when they go after Obama.

Please excuse my shallowness tonight–Mitt Romney is so pretty.

Obama has been on the cover of GQ many times and being the egomaniac that he is, carried around a copy with his ugly mug on the cover. Romney really does look like a GQ guy. Barry must be so jealous.

bailey24 on January 16, 2012 at 11:25 PM

I caught two seconds of Frank Putz and the first thing I hear is him saying how wonderful Newt was… why he’s on when he has such a conflict of interest (he worked for Newt and has called Perry and Bachmann nasty names) just shows how UNfair and UNbalanced Fox is nowadays.

Aslans Girl on January 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Hate to admit it, but Newt OWNED tonight.

Perry was solid also.

Santorum? Meh.

Romney was his typical slippery, evasive, phony self.

Ron Paul convinced me tonight that while his domestic policy may be sound, he is ABSOLUTELY BATSH*T CRAZY on foreign policy, and is a truly dangerous dude!

Just don’t see Santorum or Perry keeping pace, so as a Tea Partier, I gotta vote for Newt. My mind is made up.

Ghostflames852 on January 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM

How the HANG can a house cat ingest a scorpion?

listens2glenn on January 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Have you watched the TV show “The Untold Stories Of The ER”? Yesterday there was a segment of this man who hammered an ice pick from his right ear, and somehow missed main blood vessels to the brain? Five days later he went to the hospital because he had a HEADACHE?

He hammered that ice pick because he claimed he was hearing evil voices in his head and he “trapped” them-and he thought these demons could be released safely at the hospital by the ER staff and the neurologists.

ProudPalinFan on January 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Mitt surrogates will have to send out noise-canceling headphones, if he’s the nominee. ;-)

Otherwise, conservative heads will explode from the cognitive dissonance induced by listening to him speak out of both sides of his mouth: as a Reagan conservative who opposed Reagan’s conservatism and as a socialist healthcare implementer who complains now about socialist healthcare.

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Do you forget WHY we went to Afghanistan? If so, it’s because the Taliban was allowing Al Qaeda to train and operate from within Afghani borders.

The Taliban DESERVED to get whacked. And hasn’t changed its ways.

Murf76 on January 16, 2012 at 11:20 PM

No, according to even the CIA, that only happened after America send troops there. We went to Afghanistan to capture and/or kill Osama bin Laden, and the Taliban started to retaliate when they listened to liberal Democrats accuse Bush of waging a Holy War against Islam.

Aizen on January 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM

I need to expose a Mexican millionaire

liberal4life on January 16, 2012 at 11:06 PM

You probably know all about ‘exposure’
Bet you are listed on some web page, someplace.

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Not that I don’t think Newt did well, mind you, I just know that Frank is Newt’s friend and it’s unfair to get his assessment when Fox presents it as objective. It’s not.

Aslans Girl on January 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Only thing is, where does kitty get the scalpel to perform the excision?

ExpressoBold on January 16, 2012 at 11:24 PM

I don’t know, but I sure would like to get it away from the critter. So would my curtains and wallpaper and weight bench…

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM

I’m sick of Hannity in general and finally switched from his radio show to Sullivan’s, but his post-debate coverage seems fine to me. What’s wrong with it?

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:22 PM

He’s a tool, and he’s so predictable. He’s the most unoriginal conservative around. And people talk about whiny voices. SNL could have a hilarious skit every week.

I just think we deserve someone more intelligent. Not some guy repeating the same lines night after night.

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Newt’s tendency toward bombast excites the crowds, but his tendency to self-destruct will likely frighten away voters.

andy85719 on January 16, 2012 at 11:28 PM

He should drop out NOW. But he won’t because he craves attention.

SparkPlug on January 16, 2012 at 11:24 PM

You are a haner or bluegills level genius. Or maybe just a lib4life wanna’be.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Perry wanted to be a contender, but as it turned out he was a great pretender.

He should drop out NOW. But he won’t because he craves attention.

SparkPlug on January 16, 2012 at 11:24 PM

Nope. Perry did a great job. All the candidates put in good performances tonight. And while I like some better than others, to say otherwise is simply not factual.

Murf76 on January 16, 2012 at 11:29 PM

Otherwise, conservative heads will explode from the cognitive dissonance induced by listening to him speak out of both sides of his mouth: as a Reagan conservative who opposed Reagan’s conservatism and as a socialist healthcare implementer who complains now about socialist healthcare.

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM

I’m likin’ you more and more!

Just Sayin on January 16, 2012 at 11:30 PM

He’s a tool, and he’s so predictable. He’s the most unoriginal conservative around. And people talk about whiny voices. SNL could have a hilarious skit every week.

I just think we deserve someone more intelligent. Not some guy repeating the same lines night after night.

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM

I hate his show for his endless repetition of the same points and even sentences. Not sure you want originality in quick post-debate interviews.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:30 PM

He’s a tool, and he’s so predictable. He’s the most unoriginal conservative around. And people talk about whiny voices. SNL could have a hilarious skit every week.

I just think we deserve someone more intelligent. Not some guy repeating the same lines night after night.

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM

He’s still doing fantastic in the ratings department.

Bluray on January 16, 2012 at 11:30 PM

We should officially label Ron Paul as the #BSC candidate on Twitter.. (Bat-Shi.t-Crazy)

rgrovr on January 16, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Jindal and Rubio were born here LEGALLY. Their parents were LEGAL residents. They are eligible to run for president. I look forward to seeing President Jindal sworn in someday.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 16, 2012 at 11:31 PM

Missed the debate, but just from glancing at this page, I gather, cats do eat scorpions and Newt and Perry did well?

Fallon on January 16, 2012 at 11:22 PM

Somehow in the mix there’s Mitt’s connection with Mexico so there’s the natural born crap going on again and at the same time I am wondering if Tim Tebow can run for office because he was born in the Philippines.

Sigh. Had to throw that bone in.

ProudPalinFan on January 16, 2012 at 11:32 PM

I like the fact that there is a “nasty” Newt and a “nice” Newt. He can use the nasty-Newt when dealing with Putin and the nice-Newt when dealing with our friends. I don’t think the Iranians want to see the nasty-Newt. Nor do the dems in the Senate. Go Newt!

Kaffa on January 16, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Newt had a lot of good responses, but to say he “won” is an over-statement. He looked pretty goofy when he was taking Mitt to task for his inability to control his pac, all the while he’s been claiming all week that he’s got no influence over the utterly disgraceful performance of his own.

Murf76 on January 16, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Actually, I think Newt got the better of Romney in the SuperPAC exchange. Romney’s answer looked pretty whiny and he actually attacked McCain-Feingold in the process after receiving McCain’s endorsement. Oh to be a fly on the wall for THAT conversation…

conservativemusician on January 16, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Sigh. Had to throw that bone in.

ProudPalinFan on January 16, 2012 at 11:32 PM

Stir the pot whydoncha’.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:33 PM

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Our new ‘alpha’ is a 7 month old former stray.
Though the other two are 2-3 times her weight…she OWNS them. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on January 16, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Jindal and Rubio were born here LEGALLY. Their parents were LEGAL residents. They are eligible to run for president. I look forward to seeing President Jindal sworn in someday.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 16, 2012 at 11:31 PM

According to most interpretations they have to be citizens, not residents.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Kaffa on January 16, 2012 at 11:32 PM

I like that.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Newt’s tendency toward bombast excites the crowds, but his tendency to self-destruct will likely frighten away voters.

andy85719 on January 16, 2012 at 11:28 PM

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That’s way too tidy, in a Freudian sense, without being succinct or pithy. In other words, what you wrote is quite anal. You’re a Mitt-bot, right?

ExpressoBold on January 16, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Mitt surrogates will have to send out noise-canceling headphones, if he’s the nominee. ;-)

Otherwise, conservative heads will explode from the cognitive dissonance induced by listening to him speak out of both sides of his mouth: as a Reagan conservative who opposed Reagan’s conservatism and as a socialist healthcare implementer who complains now about socialist healthcare.

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:26 PM

Their main goal is shifting the window.

Getting all conservative ideas and values off the table & out of American public life.

Sadly, the “Romney” wing of the Republican party is succeeding.

tetriskid on January 16, 2012 at 11:34 PM

I’m likin’ you more and more!

Just Sayin on January 16, 2012 at 11:30 PM

Thank you! I’m getting it out of my system before the race is over. ;-)

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:34 PM

Mitt is the front-runner. It was not in his interest to throw red meat to hard-core conservatives in SC to resuscitate his campaign.

Romney is already planning for, and sounding as, the general election candidate.

When assessing Romney’s performance, don’t think as a conservative. Think as a soccer Mom or disaffected independent or Democrat who supported Obama (or Hillary) in 2008 and now wants a calm, reassuring alternative to Obama, who is a proven failure.

matthew8787 on January 16, 2012 at 11:35 PM

According to most interpretations they have to be citizens, not residents.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Those of us who aren’t birthers tend to disagree.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 16, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Actually, I think Newt got the better of Romney in the SuperPAC exchange. Romney’s answer looked pretty whiny and he actually attacked McCain-Feingold in the process after receiving McCain’s endorsement. Oh to be a fly on the wall for THAT conversation…

conservativemusician on January 16, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Good point. I wonder if McCain was fuming at his TV because Romney was attacking his baby.

Off topic: McCain’s mom is turning 100 next month!

ZGMF_Freedom on January 16, 2012 at 11:35 PM

He’s still doing fantastic in the ratings department.

Bluray on January 16, 2012 at 11:30 PM

C’mon. Shep Smith could run away with that time slot. Who’s on MSNBC then? Ed Schultz? The Golden Girls beats Ed like an old rug. CNN? Is that the snotty Piers Morgan hour, or the Anderson Cooper hour?

Whatevs. Hannity fans win: he’s awesome.

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Santorum calling Gingrich “unreliable”.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2012 at 11:36 PM

It’s of course ABSURD that Newt Gingrich believes Mitt Romney should be in control of his super-pac’s message while ignoring the over-the-top, ridiculous lies of his own.

Murf76 on January 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Newt Gingrich asks super PAC to edit or pull Bain ads – Washington Post 01/13/2012

Flora Duh on January 16, 2012 at 11:36 PM

According to most interpretations they have to be citizens, not residents.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:33 PM

Those of us who aren’t birthers tend to disagree.

annoyinglittletwerp on January 16, 2012 at 11:35 PM

It’s a legal issue, so it’s hard to resolve by arguing “I’m right”/”No I’m right”.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Stir the pot whydoncha’.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:33 PM

*swoon*. Gotta work on TT withdrawal. Unless I stumble on Jockey and FRS ads.

ProudPalinFan on January 16, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Off topic: McCain’s mom is turning 100 next month!

ZGMF_Freedom on January 16, 2012 at 11:35 PM

Wow! That’s great! I wish her an early Happy Birthday!

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:37 PM

Natural born means being born on an American base or in the US according to birther Orly Taitz.

liberal4life on January 16, 2012 at 11:23 PM
Well there’s your problem. You get your information from nutball crap sources.

Actually, that explains a lot about you.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Hey! Lobotomy4life! I’m from the Detroit area…he was born not to far from me! Ride your tricycle here, and I’ll show you where!

KOOLAID2 on January 16, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Mitt is the front-runner. It was not in his interest to throw red meat to hard-core conservatives in SC to resuscitate his campaign.

Romney is already planning for, and sounding as, the general election candidate.

When assessing Romney’s performance, don’t think as a conservative. Think as a soccer Mom or disaffected independent or Democrat who supported Obama (or Hillary) in 2008 and now wants a calm, reassuring alternative to Obama, who is a proven failure.

matthew8787 on January 16, 2012 at 11:35 PM

How about those of us who don’t want another disingenuous politician? And like Mr. “Cutting the budget with a scalpel”, I find no truths in Romney’s hollow words.

ZGMF_Freedom on January 16, 2012 at 11:38 PM

Off topic: McCain’s mom is turning 100 next month!

ZGMF_Freedom on January 16, 2012 at 11:35 PM

She was a mother at age 3?

Tim_CA on January 16, 2012 at 11:39 PM

Santorum singing his own praises. He sure was attacking Ron Paul tonight. Well, and Mitt too. I find it funny that Santorum and Mitt also, are all tough and have all the answers now that they are running for President. However, they were not like that when they were in office. I think we have a “new” Santorum & Romney.

Mitt is cute; he attacks B.O. in the debate and his SuperPAC attacks the other Candidates. That is the way he has always been.

bluefox on January 16, 2012 at 11:39 PM

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Our new ‘alpha’ is a 7 month old former stray.
Though the other two are 2-3 times her weight…she OWNS them. LoL

annoyinglittletwerp on January 16, 2012 at 11:33 PM

I got a Great Pyrenees-look ‘em up.

Qte, eh? :D I wish I had another one, they’re like potato chips. But my vacuum cleaner is already a strong, constant companion and family member as well.

ProudPalinFan on January 16, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Because I bitched about Ed Morrissy earlier in the thread, I should note that he was able to overcome his bias and tweet:

Biggest winner tonight (seriously) was Gingrich, That exchange with Williams was huge. Santorum scored early and often.

Ed did have the get in that “seriously” though, because he apparently thinks deriding Gingrich is the norm.

BCrago66 on January 16, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Getting all conservative ideas and values off the table & out of American public life.

Sadly, the “Romney” wing of the Republican party is succeeding.

tetriskid on January 16, 2012 at 11:34 PM

After the Tea Party successes of 2010, if Mitt Romney is the nominee, then the party will have effectively lost its conservative moorings.

Will this split the party?

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:41 PM

From a Perry supporter on twitter:

Speaking of the biggest hoax since big foot.. Mitt the conservative is talking.

I’m dying from laughter!

Aslans Girl on January 16, 2012 at 11:41 PM

According to most interpretations they have to be citizens, not residents.

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:33 PM

.
Not really. I invite you to cite even one.

ExpressoBold on January 16, 2012 at 11:41 PM

Santorum calling Gingrich “unreliable”.

Tim_CA on January 16, 2012 at 11:36 PM

Santorum is calling SS private accounts “a new entitlement.” I understand the funding point. But to say that enabling earners to direct THEIR social security contributions to a private account is bothersome. I’m reminded of the 1980s McDonald’s ad following a new worker who looks at his first paycheck and asks his dad, “Who is this guy, FICA? And why is he taking my money?”

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:42 PM

He’s a tool, and he’s so predictable. He’s the most unoriginal conservative around. And people talk about whiny voices. SNL could have a hilarious skit every week.

I just think we deserve someone more intelligent. Not some guy repeating the same lines night after night.

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:27 PM

Ever since 2008 Hannity has been consistent on exposing Obama, the lying Democrats and the corrupt MSM. He is a treasure for our side and frankly I don’t think I could have survived these past 3 1/2 years without his show.

redridinghood on January 16, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Could somebody explain to me what Allahpundit is so cynical about? He wants us to arrive at something, but I can’t figure out what that is.

minnesoter on January 16, 2012 at 11:43 PM

Speaking of the biggest hoax since big foot.. Mitt the conservative is talking.

I’m dying from laughter!

Aslans Girl on January 16, 2012 at 11:41 PM

LOL!!!

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:44 PM

I got a Great Pyrenees-look ‘em up.

ProudPalinFan on January 16, 2012 at 11:40 PM

Always wanted a white Saint Bernard. Now with a wife and kid, I get outvoted.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:46 PM

redridinghood on January 16, 2012 at 11:42 PM

Although I still don’t like him, I cried “Uncle” three or four comments ago. Leave it alone.

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Not really. I invite you to cite even one.

ExpressoBold on January 16, 2012 at 11:41 PM

I am not a lawyer. Many lawyer have stated so in various cases. See the last paragraph of this article:

http://www.ajc.com/news/georgia-politics-elections/obamas-inclusion-on-georgia-1262319.html

Igor R. on January 16, 2012 at 11:46 PM

So what, I’ve had two snakes indoors in the last few years. Those that the cat didn’t get.

They come through breaks in the sewer line.

cozmo on January 16, 2012 at 11:13 PM

Note to self: When cozmo invites me over for a sleep over, grab a BB gun, borrow the .22, grab my whole kitchen knives set and take a frying pan. A shoe won’t do, and frankly I don’t want critters hiding inside my shoes.

ProudPalinFan on January 16, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Replaying the JW “foodstamp” woopsie!

Tim_CA on January 16, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Wow, the bitter anti-Mittists converge to pounce on Mitt because Gingrich won the debate. Okay.

andy85719 on January 16, 2012 at 11:47 PM

I’m reminded of the 1980s McDonald’s ad following a new worker who looks at his first paycheck and asks his dad, “Who is this guy, FICA? And why is he taking my money?”

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:42 PM

LOL! That’s a great ad!

JonBGood on January 16, 2012 at 11:49 PM

Hope about a CCC program for poor teen-agers and send them to the nation’s farms during the summer? Can’t they do the work of migrant workers?

BuckeyeSam on January 16, 2012 at 11:49 PM

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