Open thread: Are you ready for the Huckabee South Carolina presidential forum?

posted at 7:15 pm on January 14, 2012 by Allahpundit

8 p.m. ET on Fox News. Actually, it’s too late to get ready: They taped it this afternoon. But here’s your thread in case you’re one of the three people in America who’s watching this tonight instead of the final battle of good and evil in Foxboro. The best reason to tune in, in fact, isn’t the candidates’ answers but rather to see how the GOP’s class warrior of Campaign 2008 handles the questioning on Bain. Remember when he used to say of Romney, “Americans want a president who looks like the guy they work with, not the guy who laid them off?” Apparently he’s warming up to the idea of the latter:

Romney has come under a lot of fire for Bain Capital’s investments in some companies that were then scaled down with layoffs to become profitable. That’s been demonized thoroughly by the media as corporate raiding, But it’s surprising to see so many Republicans embrace that leftwing argument against capitalism. It’s terrible for the workers who lose their jobs, and nobody likes to see viable companies looted and destroyed. But if downsizing can turn around a failing company, then at least it prevents all the jobs from being lost, and it sets up a stronger company that can grow and start rehiring. The term for this among people who aren’t hostile to capitalism is “creative destruction.” Bad companies have to die to make way for stronger companies, in the same way that old trees fall over to make way for new trees. The other alternative, the Obama way, is to use vast amounts of taxpayer money to prop up companies that are failing in the marketplace. Sometimes, with a big enough cash transfusion, they survive, like GM. Other times, all the money in the world can’t stop them from going belly-up and losing all their jobs, like Solyndra. But at least when a company that’s bought out by investors goes bankrupt, the money that’s lost was voluntarily invested, not taken from taxpayers at gunpoint.

Watching Mike Huckabee get indignant on behalf of Mitt Romney over a blue-collar attack on Wall Street would be a television moment made of pure spun gold. Especially since stories like this are just now starting to appear in South Carolina newspapers.

Rep. Tim Scott is co-moderating, so there’s another reason to watch: You’re likely to get some tea-party-flavored questions, possibly involving RomneyCare, that you won’t get at the Fox News debate on Monday or the CNN debate on Thursday. Feel free to use this as a thread for the forum or for the big game. Here’s some video to put you in the mood for either, or both.

Update: Oh my:

At a forum hosted by Mike Huckabee with 800 undecided South Carolina Republicans, Newt Gingrich was loudly booed when he criticized Mitt Romney’s record at Bain Capital, according to a Republican who attended the closed-press event.

“They were really angry,” said the attendee. The forum will be aired on Fox News tonight.



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Newt keeps mentioning Reagan and Clinton. That was quite some time ago. Not buying, Newt.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Your arguing against the interstate highway system as

well? Or just this particular thing?

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 8:57 PM

In this economy it sounded like a bullsh!t answer.

Is Newt gonna do something about the Houston Port?

The answer is no.

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Rick S. is on deck now.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:02 PM

Faux News added the boos in BAADD. Newt hit every one outta the park even the one faux news teased us with so the despicable in the tank for Romney faux fiends got their sound bite out to those not paying attention while the few of us who are tuned in got a terrific answer to a specific question!

ConcealedKerry on January 14, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Storm’n/Santorum

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:03 PM

He has always stabbed conservatives in the back – worse than McCain ever did. How anyone puts up with the little jerk is a mystery. What is NO mystery is why the conservatives in the House Republican Caucus dumped him like the garbage he is.

Adjoran on January 14, 2012 at 9:00 PM

There is no mystery why the progressives in the House Republican Caucus back stabbed him. He actually removed power from their grip. So they went along with their ideological compatriots in the House Democratic Caucus to get rid of him before he actually reduced the power of Washington even further.

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Newt keeps mentioning Reagan and Clinton. That was quite some time ago. Not buying, Newt.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:01 PM

Newts stories about working with Reagan are lies. Someone needs to call him on it besides Anne Coulter.

JPeterman on January 14, 2012 at 9:03 PM

UHG!
Santorum

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:04 PM

How would Rick win over moderates and liberals to his conservative agenda? Good question. He needs to convince conservatives that he appeals to all. He says voters want to know if candidates believe what they are saying.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:04 PM

They trusted Santorum and voted his ass out

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:04 PM

How would Rick win over moderates and liberals to his conservative agenda? Good question. He needs to convince conservatives that he appeals to all. He says voters want to know if candidates believe what they are saying.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:04 PM

He can’t

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Is Rick up? Oh, yeah, there he is. Starts zoning out again. Man, he has the right answers, but I have so much trouble listening to him.

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Newt’s career in Congress is as relevant as Romney’s experience creating jobs. It doesn’t matter that it “was quite some time ago”.

Rose on January 14, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Newts stories about working with Reagan are lies. Someone needs to call him on it besides Anne Coulter.

JPeterman on January 14, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Feel free. Open up and prove it.

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:06 PM

Bold Plan
Santorum

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I thought Newt was very strong tonight. I did not hear much of a boo. Drudge is so obviously in the tank. I felt the crowd reacted well to him and I thought I say the 2 last questioners get teary eyed listening to Newt speak.

boogaleesnots on January 14, 2012 at 9:06 PM

How sad. I feel for this woman whose husband has been unemployed for 4 years. Says knowledge workers have lower unemployment, but the country needs to build manufacturing, because workers of all skill sets can participate.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Huckabee suxxors.

JLPicard on January 14, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Texas beat China in manufacturing

Right to Work

Santorum is in the union pocket…voted against right to work

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:07 PM

ConcealedKerry on January 14, 2012 at 9:03 PM

I’m not going to say FOX edited the video, but so far, Newt has received the loudest applause.

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:07 PM

Made in China: Cue Huntsman! Rick says he had a hard time finding sweater vests for his campaign to sell that are made in the USA. Says government is making manufacturing too expensive because of regulations and trade.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Newts stories about working with Reagan are lies. Someone needs to call him on it besides Anne Coulter.

JPeterman on January 14, 2012 at 9:03 PM

Well, OK. You can start.

katy the mean old lady on January 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Sounds like bringing Manufactering back,
is the “Silver Bullit”,for the economy!

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Labor Unions don’t cost anything?

huh?

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

hello senator santorum. i’m the father of four children and have been laid off frommy job, one of my sons is in Iraq, and my home is currently in foreclosure. my question to you is……………………why are you against gay marriage?

renalin on January 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

I missed why Santorum said “they say we are losing jobs”, anyone got that statement?

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

I heard the piece in question during Harris Faulkner’s hour. The boos were loud.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Santorum is in the union pocket…voted against right to work

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:07 PM

He voted against right to work as a law nationwide because he was from a union state. A totally understandable vote. However, he has made clear that he SUPPORTS right to work now that he does not have the constrains of his own state.

KickandSwimMom on January 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

The Progressive Republicans forced out the man that brought them the majority for the first time in 40 years, balanced the budget with Clinton as president, forced welfare reform on clinton after three tries and then the Progressive Republicans went on a spending spree driving up the debt and damaging the brand.
Progressives believe whoever is in charge spends the money, Newt cut the budget and paid the price.
Look it up it’s for real, real as Romney ridin his dog around on top of his car!

ConcealedKerry on January 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

hello senator santorum. i’m the father of four children and have been laid off frommy job, one of my sons is in Iraq, and my home is currently in foreclosure. my question to you is……………………why are you against gay marriage?

renalin on January 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

LOL so true!

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:10 PM

I appreciate Santorum’s push for more manufacturing, but goodness, are others getting the “angry” tone I’m getting.

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:10 PM

Debt-Ceiling Santorum Two-Step!!

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM

dodge the debt ceiling question.

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Feel free. Open up and prove it.

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:06 PM

The Reagan Diaries

and

“An American Life” by Ronald Reagan.

Read it yourself. Newt is mentioned once in the diary book and it wasn’t in a positive way.

Or continue to keep your head buried up Newts butt and ignore the truth.

JPeterman on January 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM

I am just going to say it. I hate the sweater vest.

teri_b on January 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM

GAAAWWWD.. Listening to Santorum is like getting a root canal.

HE
IS
SOLOOOOOOO
BORING.

stenwin77 on January 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Debt ceiling question: Rick S. says he voted to get budget deficit down. He has worked to cut the budget and spending freezes. Blah, blah, blah. Says we need to work on entitlements and that is his strength.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM

I appreciate Santorum’s push for more manufacturing, but goodness, are others getting the “angry” tone I’m getting.

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:10 PM

He’s nervous cause he’s in the south

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Does anyone else really like this form of getting to know the candidates as opposed to the debates? I think this is great.

raf on January 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM

JPeterman on January 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM

No fair use quote available?

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Unemployed over 50: How do they make it? Rick S is hitting on those folks starting businesses and the Obama administration hinders them. I think she wants to know what they can do to get back in the labor market. Rick, maybe you just missed the train.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Oooh, InBedded!

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Does anyone else really like this form of getting to know the candidates as opposed to the debates? I think this is great.

raf on January 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Huckabee has a new job

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Santorum: third tier, big-government, ear-mark loving politician pretending to be relevant—a former insider putting on the mask of the reformer.

Oracleforhire on January 14, 2012 at 9:13 PM

Does anyone else really like this form of getting to know the candidates as opposed to the debates? I think this is great.

raf on January 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM

It is nice, and I get alot out of it. But unfortunately we are stuck getting what the questioners find is important. I would far more like to have each candidate pick their own topics so we can see what is important to each of them.

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:14 PM

He voted against right to work as a law nationwide because he was from a union state. A totally understandable vote. However, he has made clear that he SUPPORTS right to work now that he does not have the constrains of his own state.

KickandSwimMom on January 14, 2012 at 9:09 PM

so when Romney wants to use the state he was living in it a can’t get away with that but when Santorum uses the state he was in thats’ok.

LOL

gerrym51 on January 14, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Does anyone else really like this form of getting to know the candidates as opposed to the debates? I think this is great.

raf on January 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM

Yep, and what’s even better, no stupid questions by biased liberal moderators.

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:10 PM
He’s nervous cause he’s in the south

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM

workingclass artist:Lol!

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Uhhhh … sure. I mean, I didn’t watch any of the other debates, so why not? I trust Tina, AP, Ed, and the rest of the HA opinion maestros to tell me what happened. I’ll vote for any of the GOP candidates over the Marxian-educated, empty-suit egoist we presently have in the White House (i.e., Little Lord Barry). Everyone, that is, but Ron Paul. Sorry. I will NEVER vote for a 9-11 ‘truther’. No matter what. Can’t go there. The atrocity of 9-11 is too deeply etched in my psyche. I will never forget. Fortunately, of course Paul has no chance whatsoever of garnering the GOP nomination. Any of the other candidates could catch fire between now and November. Pappy the Sailor Man could not and cannot. And for many obvious reasons. But there is no need to search the archives. He told us *exactly* who he is when he asserted in one of the Iowa debates that U.S. forces killed *One Million Iraqis* over the course of OIF under George W. Bush. He said that in an effort to fend off questioning of his foreign-affairs sanity from Michele Bachmann. He said those exact words. He STATED that claim. Now since I know that such claim is an absolute lie, there is no way in hell that I could ever vote for the man. He is a liar. A flat-out anti-American liar. In addition to being 9-11 conspiracy loon, a pencil-necked geek, and a Senior Citizen who needs to RETIRE for pity’s sake. I mean, the old codger would be in his ’80s by the time his first term was up. These are our choices: Rick Santorum. Mitt Romney. Newt Gingrich. Rick Perry. And what’s his name, that guy from Utah. That’s it. I will happily support any one of them. So let the debates continue. My mind is set.

minnesoter on January 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Rick says he does not support exceptions for rape and incest.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:15 PM

Big Business vs small business is an excellent answer. Obama lives to collude with big business to the detriment of the citizenry. Crony Capitalism is what a wise lady who should be leading us called it.
She was right santorum is also only longer winded and less articulate than Sarah.

ConcealedKerry on January 14, 2012 at 9:16 PM

raf on January 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM
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Yep, and what’s even better, no stupid questions by biased liberal moderators.

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Flora Duh:Ain’t dat da truth!:)

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:16 PM

Unemployed over 50: How do they make it? Rick S is hitting on those folks starting businesses and the Obama administration hinders them. I think she wants to know what they can do to get back in the labor market. Rick, maybe you just missed the train.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:13 PM

He’s saying adapt?

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:16 PM

No fair use quote available?

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:12 PM

We should take the word of our betters as gospel. Get with the program.:)

katy the mean old lady on January 14, 2012 at 9:16 PM

I kind of like this format too. No bickering, except when the moderator stops Newt candidates from breaking the rules.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:16 PM

He’s saying adapt, but I don’t think that was the point of her question.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:10 PM
He’s nervous cause he’s in the south

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM

workingclass artist:Lol!

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:14 PM

check his out…dude can shoot
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7395027n

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:18 PM

We should take the word of our betters as gospel. Get with the program.:)

katy the mean old lady on January 14, 2012 at 9:16 PM

so very true. I will try to get back in line. LOL

Woot Perry!

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:18 PM

so when Romney wants to use the state he was living in it a can’t get away with that but when Santorum uses the state he was in thats’ok.

LOL

gerrym51 on January 14, 2012 at 9:14 PM

Nice try. First, Romney has not changed his position on Romneycare. Santorum has changed his position on right to work, and rightly so. Second, Romney has been quoted from 2006 stating that it was his hope to have a version of his healthcare nationwide.

KickandSwimMom on January 14, 2012 at 9:18 PM

The Moochers!

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Rick Perry: How to get people off welfare and prevent cheating. Have an HHS agency (groan) to prevent fraud.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:19 PM

nobody moves to Texas for welfare

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:19 PM

JPeterman on January 14, 2012 at 9:17 PM

Thanks. I take back all the under the breath things I thought about you over the last ten minutes. :) Maybe your a better guy than I thought you were in the other threads.

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:20 PM

He’s nervous cause he’s in the south

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:11 PM

Damn, someone told about our human sacrifice festival?

katy the mean old lady on January 14, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Veep question: Rick says Huckabee. Yuk yuk. Says his veep would share his ideology and personal philosophy.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:22 PM

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:14 PM
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check his out…dude can shoot
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7395027n

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:18 PM

workingclass artist:Nice shoot’n Tex!!

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM

nobody moves to Texas for welfare

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:19 PM

Their unemployment checks are double my current states… I actually appreciated that before I moved for a job in another state. By the way, part of the reason I lost my job is because Texas got involved in the negotiations and the federal government found it to be close enough to corruption to remove the company from the bidding process. I do not have deep details, because the company was keeping it as secret as they could. Mostly just scuttlebutt.

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM

katy the mean old lady on January 14, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Dang, that Governor Perry is one good looking man. You think he speaks French?

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM

How to control the NLRB: Perry would get rid of it or consolidate it in another Labor agency.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM

So Newt proposed freezing Federal Spending at 1983 levels and reagan opposed it because it would hurt the military.
Looks like you stumbled into the answer we have been giving you Newt cut, cap and balanced before cut cap and balance was kool and was to the right of Reagan.

Sounds like the guy we need in times of 16 trillion dollar deficits.

Else keep going for Progressive Repunks who spend more money too just on their favored , lobbyist imposed projects.

ConcealedKerry on January 14, 2012 at 9:24 PM

War on the Stats…Yes!

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:24 PM

katy the mean old lady on January 14, 2012 at 9:20 PM

Dang, that Governor Perry is one good looking man. You think he speaks French?

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM

If he does, Newt will post an attack ad. Newt doesn’t like to be upstaged by polyglots.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Perry would probably do away with NLRB. Good, needs to be. He’s getting big applause from the media for his answers on NLRB.

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Dang, that Governor Perry is one good looking man. You think he speaks French?

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM

Mmmm. And he’s rocking the house…

catquilt on January 14, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Right to Work Baby!

Gig Em’
Perry 2012

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Damn, someone told about our human sacrifice festival?

katy the mean old lady on January 14, 2012 at 9:20 PM

katy the mean old lady:Your thinking,of the annual Sh*t/Urine
Occuppy Wall Street Olympics!!:)

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Thanks. I take back all the under the breath things I thought about you over the last ten minutes. :) Maybe your a better guy than I thought you were in the other threads.

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:20 PM

I listened to Ronald Reagan on Radio Free Europe when living under communism. I have read everything he’s written and then some. Just trying to enlighten my stupid immigrant mind or something.

JPeterman on January 14, 2012 at 9:25 PM

LOL I like the VW commercial.

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:25 PM

there is one thing all these candidates have in spades over Mitt and Obama and its Realness.

boogaleesnots on January 14, 2012 at 9:25 PM

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:24 PM

heh.

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:26 PM

I thought Jonny Huntsman and Rick Perry did/are doing very well.

Aizen on January 14, 2012 at 9:26 PM

Perry would probably do away with NLRB. Good, needs to be. He’s getting big applause from the media for his answers on NLRB.

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:24 PM

Too bad it won’t translate to votes.

gophergirl on January 14, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Dang, that Governor Perry is one good looking man. You think he speaks French?

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM

He’s got that southern frat boy thing going for him That was my cup of Oolong back in the day.

katy the mean old lady on January 14, 2012 at 9:27 PM

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:14 PM
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check his out…dude can shoot
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7395027n

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:18 PM

workingclass artist:Nice shoot’n Tex!!

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM

A liberal Austin tribune reporter asked Perry who’s face as on the target and Perry grinned and said “not yours”

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:27 PM

2012 elections Reuters/Ipsos poll:

Mitt Romney opens up wide lead in South Carolina with 37% support, Newt Gingrich falls to 12%

– @ReutersStory metadata:
Submitted 5 hours ago by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Perry would probably do away with NLRB. Good, needs to be. He’s getting big applause from the media for his answers on NLRB.

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:24 PM

d’oh! that should be audience.

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Hey Kerry, appreciate your remarks. Glad you don’t keep them concealed!

Truizm on January 14, 2012 at 9:27 PM

Rick Perry is really do well.

JPeterman on January 14, 2012 at 9:28 PM

Good one,14 Trillion….

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Perry doing well tonight.

Philly on January 14, 2012 at 9:29 PM

“Are you better off today than you were 4 trillion dollars ago?”

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:29 PM

And Texas got upgraded while Obama downgraded the US

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:29 PM

Are you better off today than you were four trillion dollars ago? – Rick Perry

catquilt on January 14, 2012 at 9:29 PM

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:23 PM
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A liberal Austin tribune reporter asked Perry who’s face as on the target and Perry grinned and said “not yours”

workingclass artist on January 14, 2012 at 9:27 PM

workingclass artist:Interesting,gots a linky!!

canopfor on January 14, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Perry’s giving great answers to these questions.

Flora Duh on January 14, 2012 at 9:32 PM

Rick seems sincere tonight. He sounds like me talking to my wife about politics. LOL

astonerii on January 14, 2012 at 9:34 PM

Go Perry

Bullhead on January 14, 2012 at 9:34 PM

I’m biased, but Perry kicked ass. I would feel perfectly confident sending Governor Upgrade to debate this stuff with President Downgrade.

juliesa on January 14, 2012 at 9:35 PM

I usually hold my breath when Perry is talking, but he let me breathe tonight. Where has this guy been? And why did he follow along with Newt’s asinine attacks?

teri_b on January 14, 2012 at 9:35 PM

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