WaPo gives “King of Bain” four Pinocchios
posted at 10:02 am on January 13, 2012 by Ed Morrissey
Maybe there is something to the “inoculation” theory about the attacks on Bain Capital in the Republican primary. Since it’s Newt Gingrich and his supporters taking a page from the Occupy/big labor playbook for the upcoming general election, the media might feel freer to take a critical look at the centerpiece of their offensive, the 29-minute film called “King of Bain.” The Washington Post fact-checker Glenn Kessler took a very close look at it — and ripped the film and Gingrich with a four-Pinocchio rating, and a particularly stinging rebuke:
Newt Gingrich, meet Michael Moore!
The 29-minute video “King of Bain” is such an over-the-top assault on former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney that it is hard to know where to begin.
Let’s begin with how the filmmakers present their case that Unimac went out of business thanks to the predatory nature of Mitt Romney. It turns out that not only did Romney have little to do with Unimac, the firm hasn’t gone out of business at all. It’s currently producing appliances in Wisconsin, having moved there long after Romney left Bain and actually as Romney was concluding his term as governor of Massachusetts:
Bain Capital bought the business from Raytheon in 1998, and Romney left Bain a year later to run the Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City. In 2005, Bain sold UniMac (also called Alliance Laundry) to a Canadian entity known as Teachers’ Private Capital. The factory was moved from Marianna to Ripon, Wisc., in 2006, after Bain’s involvement ended — a fact made clear on the Web site of a laundry repair business co-owned by the people featured in the film.
n fact, Mike Baxley, who was interviewed for the film, said that he and his partner had “absolutely no idea” that the interviews were for a film about Romney and Bain. He said they thought they were being interviewed for a documentary about the factory closing.
“They said they wanted to know what it was like when the factory closed down,” he said, and he, his partner and his partner’s wife agreed to interviews after “they flashed a little money at us.” (Baxley, a Republican who said he had not yet thought much about the nomination contest, declined to reveal the amount.)After watching “King of Bain” at The Fact Checker’s request, he said: “We were pretty shocked. Our quotes were seriously taken out of context. There is a real lack of facts.”
Only one of the cases presented in the film actually involved Romney at all, the decline (not failure, as the film states) of Ampad. The company exists as a subsidiary to Esselte, as Kessler notes, but did close its Marion, Indiana facility, which left a lot of bad feelings among the former workers there. But why did Ampad decline? Its core business — business supplies — got undermined by cheaper retail competitors, like Staples — a company that grew because of the investment of Bain Capital and Mitt Romney.
Kessler concludes:
Romney may have opened the door to this kind of attack with his suspect job-creation claims, but that is no excuse for this highly misleading portrayal of Romney’s years at Bain Capital. Only one of the four case studies directly involves Romney and his decision-making, while at least two are completely off point. The manipulative way the interviews appeared to have been gathered for the UniMac segment alone discredits the entire film.
Romney, however, isn’t sitting still. He has responded in South Carolina with an ad balanced between positive and negative, looking at his record of creating jobs in the private sector, but also slamming Gingrich for “taking the Obama line”:
If the rest of the media follows Kessler’s lead, would this tend to discredit the attacks that will come later from Obama himself if Romney wins the nomination? I’d tend to think that it would at least muddy the waters considerably, and if this gets reported as desperation tactics in the primary, it’s going to have that stink about it in the general election as well.









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BettyRuth on January 13, 2012 at 10:57 AM
Nothing.
gryphon202 on January 13, 2012 at 10:58 AM
Mitt up 1 in last week; Newt up 3; Rick S. down 8; Ron Paul up 5.
http://campaign2012.washingtonexaminer.com/blogs/beltway-confidential/gingrich-gains-romney-stable-south-carolina/311731
boogaleesnots on January 13, 2012 at 10:58 AM
He’s only “surging” in SC – he’s way down nationally. Which was to be expected, considering Santorum is running out of gas and Newt is spending a lot of money there.
Wait until voters start seeing ads rebutting his attack on Bain and associating him with Obama’s far-left extremism and anti-capitalist rhetoric.
joana on January 13, 2012 at 10:59 AM
Conservatives say they despise Mittens, yet they use the tools of the dishonest propagandist liberal. Is there a difference between the two ?
FlaMurph on January 13, 2012 at 11:00 AM
Where do you get the idea the MSM ever supported Mitt? Thats nonsense. 4 Years ago they supported McCain over Mitt and most here foolishly went along with the MSM that he was somehow the better candidate. The Boston media performs nonstop assaults on him ever since (and while) he was a popular governor here.
Resolute on January 13, 2012 at 11:00 AM
For many years I chafed at the idea that “there’s really not a dime’s worth of difference between the two parties,” but no longer.
gryphon202 on January 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM
I dislike Romney for too many reasons, but I agree with you that the calls for his tax returns are premature. After he’s nominated, then the calls are appropriate. Of course, he’s not required to do so, but in this election cycle, I think it will be a significant turn off. My guess is that Romney’s returns will show that he’s absolutely loaded. I suspect that it’ll show, in part, that he’s receiving some kind of an earnout from his sale/redemption of his interest in BainCap. That’s not unusual, I suppose, because people in his position often sell their interests (or have them redeemed) on an installment sales basis. He gets to defer the tax liability, the company avoids having to pay cash in a lump sum. All the same, it might give lefties a chance to scream “Bain.”
The interesting thing, I think, will be whether Romney will release any recent gift-tax returns. That’s where we’d see any significant estate-planning moves Romney may have made. Obama has released his, though there’s little to them–he and MO made a front-loaded gift to some 529 plans for their daughters. As I recall, each of them gave $55,000 to each daughter’s 529 plan a few years ago. There’s a provision in the law allowing a donor to make a gift of as much as five times the annual exclusion to a 529 plan for a donee. You just can’t give any more for the year of the gift or four years after.
At any rate, Romney has dynastic wealth, so I doubt he’s running around with just a pourover will and a revocable trust. I’ll bet that he’s done some serious estate planning that’s reflected in the gift tax returns. More fuel for the class warfare crowd.
McCain dodged this in 2008 by releasing only his separate tax returns. He and his wife are community property state residents who file separatly. Sure, he showed some income, but the real money was on his wife’s returns. He actually had a good argument to keep her returns out because they lead largely separate financial lives. Still, the left squawked a bit.
In the end, if Romney gets nominated, be ready for the calls for his returns.
BuckeyeSam on January 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM
For Gingrich, not so much.
unclesmrgol on January 13, 2012 at 11:02 AM
The idea the media will flip a switch after the primary and assault him is silly. Their ammunition is already running out.
Resolute on January 13, 2012 at 11:02 AM
What will that be? That Bain is too big to fail?
mike_NC9 on January 13, 2012 at 11:02 AM
Happy Friday the 13th, Newt!
profitsbeard on January 13, 2012 at 11:03 AM
here is another
http://gretawire.foxnewsinsider.com/2012/01/13/latest-south-carolina-poll-numbers-abc/?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+
boogaleesnots on January 13, 2012 at 11:03 AM
How many sweetheart Solyndra deals are hiding deep in Romney’s tax returns?
mike_NC9 on January 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM
Just vote for
Ron PaulCthulhu already. Why choose a lesser evil?Archivarix on January 13, 2012 at 11:05 AM
It’s not that there isn’t a dime’s worth of difference between the two — it’s that certain individuals, when confronted with an opportunity to pander to the center, use the weapons of the left.
There are those of us who are fairly consistent in our viewpoints, and will compare our opponent to what we believe, not to some liberal shibboleth.
unclesmrgol on January 13, 2012 at 11:06 AM
It doesn’t matter if the movie is misleading or completely bogus. The perception of Mitt as a “Vulture Capitalist” who killed jobs, pets and babies will persist through the primaries and into the general election cycle. Obama can’t run on his record so he has to run on Class Warfare. And the MSM will be more than happy to lead the charge.
BRunner on January 13, 2012 at 11:07 AM
Solyndra was a massive use of federal (public) funds in return for campaign donations. If there are any hiding in Romney’s past, don’t you think the Democrats of Massachusetts would have surfaced them long ago?
unclesmrgol on January 13, 2012 at 11:08 AM
“Those of us,” Uncle? I love ya man, but do you think that really includes most voters?
gryphon202 on January 13, 2012 at 11:09 AM
It’s Newt making these charges now. I’m sure they’ll resurface in the general election, but don’t forget that we’re in a circular firing squad now.
gryphon202 on January 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM
I agree with gryphon.
Gryphon is no fool.
She has a point: He started it, so he deserves more of the same & worse meme is something Democrats do.
Why do you think this is a good idea at ALL?
That, Sir/Maam, is foolish.
We most certainly do not.
What we need is less government in our lives.
Politicians do not create jobs.
I, for one, am so sick & tired off Republicans saying this $hit.
It makes me not want to vote for anyone that says such things.
Badger40 on January 13, 2012 at 11:11 AM
FIFY
cicerone on January 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Yup. The “boy who cried wolf effect”.
:::YAWWWN:::
whatcat on January 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM
why are Mitts super pacs not his fault or connection and this ONE… that dares to pin him a little is ALL Newt all the time?
Is everybody bought off?
How much money does Mitt have!????!
#standards
golfmann on January 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM
No — that the investors in Bain were free to use their money legally as they wished. Nothing Bain did was illegal. What will be the focus — as it is now — is whether what Bain did was designed to destroy perfectly good businesses for profit.
The union guy (paid by the DNC) following Romney around is a classic example of a person making such a claim. In his case it’s patently false — his union was what drove the closing of the particular plant at which he worked — a union for which he was a vice-president. Now that doesn’t mean there might not be other cases in which deliberate destruction yielded profit — but if Mr. Johnson (the union guy) is the DNC poster child for those types of acts, I doubt it.
unclesmrgol on January 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM
I’m a guy. But thanks for the vote of confidence.
gryphon202 on January 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM
Question for those who think Newt is right with these attacks:
Newt Gingrich was Speaker of the House when all of this so-called “vulture capitalism” was going on. Where is the legislation he offered to stop it?
rockmom on January 13, 2012 at 11:12 AM
No, that Gingrich’s attack is “a heap of lies” and reaches Michael Moore’s level of dishonesty.
joana on January 13, 2012 at 11:13 AM
Sorry about that. I get some folks here mixed up sometimes.
I’m also mistaken for what I’m not.
Badger40 on January 13, 2012 at 11:14 AM
Well we know Bain people contributed to Obama. What did they get in return? All speculation at this point, but that’s the point. Releasing them ends the speculation.
mike_NC9 on January 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM
A few things make Obama’s situation different from Romney’s. First, he had little to lose, aside from showing what a lousy charitable donor he and his wife were and that they hadn’t heard of an interest-bearing checking account before 2005 and that he and his wife didn’t believe in investing in the stock market. Second, he was right in the middle of the Jeremiah Wright firestorm. Third, it was a nice point to throw at the Clintons as he tried to make inroads in the white, middle-class voters who were flocking to Hillary. As I recall, those returns didn’t exactly make Hillary look like the shot-and-a-beer bowler that she was trying to cast herself to be.
Romney can ignore calls for tax returns during the primary and be fine. In the general election, he’s on his own. And don’t get me started on the gift tax returns.
BuckeyeSam on January 13, 2012 at 11:15 AM
Thank YOU.
Badger40 on January 13, 2012 at 11:16 AM
Oh, great!
This,
Equals SURGING!!!!!
Gunlock Bill on January 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM
Non sequiturs are for amateurs. Why don’t you get back to the important work of figuring out who really masterminded 9-11.
cicerone on January 13, 2012 at 11:17 AM
In the end, if Romney gets nominated, be ready for the calls for his returns.
BuckeyeSam on January 13, 2012 at 11:01 AM
rockmom on January 13, 2012 at 11:18 AM
Oh you’re a pro? You’re getting paid to comment here? Good for you.
mike_NC9 on January 13, 2012 at 11:19 AM
I was raised in Ripon, WI. Ripon is both the birthplace of the Republican Party and of Speed Queen, maker of washers and dryers. My Dad’s boss at Ripon Foods, Inc., Horace Bumby, was also president of Speed Queen and he sold it to McGraw Edison in the late 50′s, early 60′s. Raytheon later bought out M-E. I have high school classmates who have worked there for the last 35 years or more. To my knowledge, the plant never moved from Ripon. What a tangle web politicians weave…
Thoughtyman on January 13, 2012 at 11:19 AM
Unfortunately, having no real choices at this point, Newt was never a top choice out of the lousy choices, but anyone piling on top of ‘vulture’ capitalism has no vote from me.
At this point, unless something really changes, I’m holding my nose in the primary here in ND this summer & voting for Romney.
I don’t like it much.
But I’m pretty certain he’ll make a better POTUS than the communist in Chief & a hell of a lot better than crazy idea man Newt.
And I certainly won’t go nuts for nutsty Paul, & don’t get me started on busy body ‘conservatives’ like Santorum.
Badger40 on January 13, 2012 at 11:19 AM
??????
Oh, I guess you didn’t know that he donated all of the money he inherited from his father to a university.
Gunlock Bill on January 13, 2012 at 11:20 AM
Don’t tempt me. I’m about to that point.
Like the last election, the one thing that gets me plug my nose and take a bite out of this s#!t sandwich is who the nominee picks for VP.
Yakko77 on January 13, 2012 at 11:20 AM
The Romney haters keep trying to justify Newts lying propagana piece aboutBain by saying over and over that the ads ran against Newt in NH were equally misleading and unfair.
This claim is b.s.
Newt DID play footsie with Pelosi on her couch. He WAS fined anddriven from congress. He DID support a federal mandate.,.etc.
Stop it with the intellectual dishonesty already.
jibjab75 on January 13, 2012 at 11:21 AM
To be fair to Newt, he needed the “vulture” $$$ to pay off the huge penalties imposed on him for his historical ethics violations.
whatcat on January 13, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Another conspiracy theory? lol
cicerone on January 13, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Thanks. Couldn’t remember the correct acronym.
Correct. But those who think they’ll find evidence of him being a “corporate raider” or “Capitalist vulture” who was “unfair” to employees of companies Bain invested in aren’t going to find smoking guns in tax returns.
Buy Danish on January 13, 2012 at 11:21 AM
Without wanting to sound paranoid, this is probably a fake-out by the WaPo. Pookie is their man and they will mount a concerted attack on Romney if he is the nominee. There will be in-depth interviews with the workers Romney killed with his bare hands, the children he sold to people smugglers, and the pets he microwaved for his own entertainment.
CorporatePiggy on January 13, 2012 at 11:21 AM
And need I even mention why Perry, bleeding illegal heart boy, should be a non-starter?
Badger40 on January 13, 2012 at 11:22 AM
I think if anything, we’ll see just how generous he is to charity.
Badger40 on January 13, 2012 at 11:24 AM
.
Contraceptives are just the beginning. Gird your loins.
FlaMurph on January 13, 2012 at 11:26 AM
I want Obama defeated. I’m just realistic about the treacherous Presidential campaign process. Obama will not be as easy to attack personally as Newt is and I’m not sure Romney is reliable enough to fix Washington. He needs better answers than, ” the dog enjoyed it up there on the roof.” Romney has sailed through the primary as if he is baggage free.
mike_NC9 on January 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM
From Ed’s latest post,
Newtron is SURGING!!!!
Gunlock Bill on January 13, 2012 at 11:28 AM
Great, the leftist media defends Romney, let’s all jump on the bandwagon and then be shocked, shocked, to see what they do to him this fall. 2008 deja vu.
Shay on January 13, 2012 at 11:29 AM
.
The Mittigater’s tithing 10%-15% to the LDS, albeit charity, will be smeared against him big time. The Messiah cannot be one and done. We will witness the end of a Free Press in our lifetime.
.
I thank Al Ghore everyday for the internet.
FlaMurph on January 13, 2012 at 11:30 AM
I think voters can be diverted. Few people do not have empathy for someone out of work, or someone being discriminated against on the basis of externals bearing no relationship to their character. It’s a classic “red herring” to turn people against their own philosophies by appealing to their sense of fair play.
That said, the majority of voters will sit there and say, about the mud-encrusted candidates presented for their vote — which of these is closest to my important wedge issues?
I don’t like Romney, but I like Obama even less.
unclesmrgol on January 13, 2012 at 11:31 AM
It’s a characterization, not an accusation. I hadn’t read that Romney had donated to charity what he’d received from his parents. But I don’t recall ever second-guessing Romney charitable instincts. So get a grip.
I’ve read that Romney is worth $200M–I may be off, but that’s not my point. My point is that he’s very wealthy. And, unless he’s an idiot, he’s probably engaged in some fairly sophisticated estate planning that could very well need to be reported in a federal gift tax return. In the end, my point is that his gift tax returns may be another issue if he’s the nominee. I just remember the great hay that liberals made when McCain couldn’t name the homes he and his wife owned and that they made when McCain didn’t release his wife’s income tax returns.
Just sayin’. Start thinking about how all this appears to independent voters.
From where I stand, I can’t get past the notion that the GOP is going to nominate the godfather of Obamacare.
BuckeyeSam on January 13, 2012 at 11:31 AM
I think you’re being far too generous, but there you go.
gryphon202 on January 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM
If only Gingrich could stop it. But according to the Romney Precedent, Gingrich isn’t responsible, can’t stop it, and it would be illegal for him to try.
portlandon on January 13, 2012 at 11:34 AM
http://conservativebyte.com/2012/01/obama-raises-more-from-bain-than-romney/
Yup. But what do you mean by “releasing them”?
unclesmrgol on January 13, 2012 at 11:35 AM
Hope springs eternal.
unclesmrgol on January 13, 2012 at 11:36 AM
I read Mitt inherited 100 million from his dad.
You have a link where he gave this away?????
golfmann on January 13, 2012 at 11:36 AM
I am absolutely appalled about this attack on Mitt Romney. While I have always held out a hope that a more conservative candidate (that is electable) would surface, I do know that I will never vote for Newt for anything ever again.
annyinboulder on January 13, 2012 at 11:38 AM
So BE appalled, already….
It’s politics, get over it!
golfmann on January 13, 2012 at 11:39 AM
I can’t wait for Romney, should he be nominated, to debate with Owebama about job creation, deficit spending,out of control entitlement expenditures, downgraded credit ratings, etc,etc. Owebama will only be saved by the bell!(moderator)
bitterklinger on January 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM
For the most part, I agree. As I explained in a lengthier post above, I’m under the impression that Mitt is still receiving a payout from the sale of his interest in BainCap. That’s not illegal or even untoward. It’s a simple installment sale. BainCap doesn’t have to raise the cash to pay him all at once; Mitt doesn’t have to recognize the gain all in one year. Depending on the security arrangement, Mitt bears some risk that BainCap might not make all the payments–though I suspect that’s unlikely. Anyway, to the average Joe, Dems might be able to accuse him of being tied to BainCap, when he really isn’t.
Having said that, sometimes these sales get structured on the basis of a contingent payment obligation. That is, the amount of Mitt’s payouts might vary depending on BainCap’s performance after he leaves. The idea is that he gets rewarded on the theory that his prior effort had an affect on BainCap’s success for a period of years after he left. For example, his payout might be affected by the success of investments that he had a direct had in, or that existed when he was there, or included deals in the pipeline when he left. Regardless, in this kind of a payout, it could be more persuasively argued that Mitt’s payout was affected by events after he left.
Look, I’m speculating–not accusing–but I don’t know for sure. My point is that it’s not safe to draw the conclusion that you have. Instead, it depends.
BuckeyeSam on January 13, 2012 at 11:47 AM
“If we have a potential nominee who can’t take the heat in February you sure don’t want to discover that in September, so I think Gov. Romney owes all of us a press conference where he explains what happened to the companies that went bankrupt and why did Bain make so much money out of companies that were going bankrupt”……
………..Newt
LOL
JPeterman on January 13, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Which I find extremely strange.
What a thing to disparage.
Of course, Huntsman I am sure tithes the same, as all of those heavily involved in the LDS church.
The church has the best ‘welfare’ program I have ever seen.
It is certainly something to be emulated, by private entities.
I really personally do not care about him inheriting $$ from his father.
Good for him.
I live amongst a bunch of farmers & ranchers who leave their children a lot of wealth ties up in land, equipment & animals.
And there’s always the envious quick to sneeringly point it out.
I do not, or will not, ever disparage a person for inheriting wealth.
It’s how they lead their life that I concern myself with.
Badger40 on January 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM
–snicker– you are so bad.
beatcanvas on January 13, 2012 at 11:52 AM
As I said in the headlines, the Bain attacks are unfair.
So was the bogus ethics chages attacks against Gingrich.
As was the mediscare tactics against Perry.
I’m have a problem getting indignant about Mitt getting some unfair attacks as a result.
makattak on January 13, 2012 at 11:56 AM
I don’t question his right to inherit, I asked about his giving 100 million dollars away!
And yes, I have doubts he did that!
I know I wouldn’t! :)
golfmann on January 13, 2012 at 12:00 PM
Your post does not prove his ads were not misleading. All you have said is there is truth to the ads.
There is truth to the Bain ads as well. Mitt Romney headed Bain when they closed down a number of companies/factories and fired many people.
That’s completely true. It is not the whole story, just as what you wrote about Newt Gingrich is not the whole story. (The ethics charges were bogus, his reasons for the couch with Pelosi were stupid, but he accepted responsibility and refuted that choice, unlike Mr. Romney and Romneycare.)
As I said, I don’t like these attacks, but I’m not about to get up in arms about it since Mitt’s misleading ads seemed to have worked. Apparently the voters WANT negative and misleading ads because they reward the candidates for using them.
makattak on January 13, 2012 at 12:12 PM
Romney is such a stereotypical sleazy politician and RINO to boot. I hope the discovered audio/video Mark Levin played yesterday on his radio show of Romney trashing republicans in 2003 gets more exposure in SC and FL so Romney can get stopped once and for all.
mozalf on January 13, 2012 at 12:16 PM
I don’t hate Mitt… I just don’t want him for my President.
golfmann on January 13, 2012 at 12:21 PM
Yep.
Yes (and iirc, his Wiki page talks about it in general terms) but his tax returns won’t show reveal what deals succeeded or failed, it will only show fluctuating income from year to year.
Buy Danish on January 13, 2012 at 12:26 PM
No portlandon, but he can shut his lips, he does have control over those still doesn’t he? Or is he the puppet and Cholista the puppeteer?
Not saying that he can stop the Super Pac, that is done, but then he advertised the video in the debates. So, there he tied himself to it by bringing it up first. No he cannot call the Pac off, but he can STFU.
Right?
uhangtight on January 13, 2012 at 12:27 PM
Will Newt mention this in his next TV interview? He’s been rather fond of the Wa Post’s Pinocchio rating system as of late. He mentioned the Pinocchios last night on Greta – of course, not those that his SuperPAC received.
No wonder Newt has decided to stand down his attacks on Romney. His SuperPAC just got a shiner. Everyone warned you this was a bad road to take, Newt. Newt will need to vindicate his position, so the SuperPAC attacks on this issue probably will continue.
Philly on January 13, 2012 at 12:28 PM
Heh, Ed, I just saw your tweet. Made me lol
Flora Duh on January 13, 2012 at 12:33 PM
Romney surrounds himself with his creepy stepford family and always comes off smelling like a rose. But I trust Mark Levin, the radio talk show how, who is very critical of the way Gingrich is handling this. Gringrich is already being distorted all over the place to begin with so to get set up is making him look bad. He’s smarter than that. There’s plenty to focus on that’s shady about Romney. This for example:
Levin is rather dismayed at a video that has emerged where Mitt Romney is not only misrepresenting capitalism, but saying that he isn’t a classical Republican when it comes to economics, which he also misrepresents. Levin says he just doesn’t know who Romney really is:
I honestly do not know if Mitt Romney is a conservative or not! I honestly don’t know if he’s a free market conservative or not! He has evolved on every single major issue I can think of, and not over a course of time, but over a course of a few years. Pro-abortion, now pro-life. Against classical Republican economics, whatever the hell that is, now he’s for it. And I can go down the line. 1994, trashing Ronald Reagan.
I mean, who is this man? Can somebody tell me WHO IS MITT ROMNEY? It’s a simple question! I don’t know! And the problem is, 75% of you don’t know either! And we want an answer! …Honest to God, I want to like the guy! Who the hell is he?! I don’t know!
And that’s the problem.
mozalf on January 13, 2012 at 12:35 PM
Romney and 100,000 new jobs: Proof?
apocalypse on January 13, 2012 at 12:37 PM
Good story up at Big Government about how that Ampad story may have been directly the result of collusion between the union and Ted Kennedy’s campaign, with a company-crippling strike orchestrated specifically to embarrass Romney in the middle of his Senate race against Kennedy in 1994. I suggest everyone go over there and read it. Very eye-opening. Romney was actually leading Kennedy in the polls until this strike happened, and the union boss kept claiming Romney could have settled it when he had already left Bain to run for the Senate. The publicity and the attack ads that Kennedy ran on the strike killed Romney.
This union boss is the same guy the DNC has been flying around dogging Romney recently.
We all know there are few more dishonest institutions in America than unions and the Kennedy family.
rockmom on January 13, 2012 at 12:46 PM
I guess I”m a little shocked HotAir doesn’t address the parts that are TRUE and that which is NOT in the documentary including recover investment while running up debt or selling their interest while they solicited others to buy stock.
Worse, Obama has proven they were OUTRIGHTLY lie and they will have $1 Billion to do worse than this.
I never did before, but I now am convinced Romney is the WEAKEST candidate while OWS ramps up again next year.
Full details at http://www.politijim.com/2012/01/bain-docu-disgust-imbalance-and-impact.html
PolitiJim on January 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM
I guess their even now, four pinocchios each. Now can we get on with the important issues, such as: replacing the President.
DDay on January 13, 2012 at 12:48 PM
Per this interview with Brian Lamb of CSPAN, Mitt did give away his inheritance:
It’s a very interesting interview which deserves to be read in full…
Buy Danish on January 13, 2012 at 12:53 PM
Badger,
I agree I don’t care who inherits what either. My kids will hopefully inherit a bunch of money some day.
BUT
The Mittbots here are trying to suggest that Mittens was a self made man who started at the bottom through hard work and determination and worked his way to CEO of Bain.
That part of the story a lie. Nobody who inherits 100M starts at the bottom of anything.
angryed on January 13, 2012 at 12:57 PM
LOL.
I thought it was the Ronulans who saw conspiracies behind every black helicopter.
angryed on January 13, 2012 at 12:59 PM
Do you think that companies like Bain hire people directly to the top simply because they inherit some money?
What was Romney’s first job?
blink on January 13, 2012 at 1:07 PM
I don’t think, I know.
It’s not because he has money. It’s because from the day he was born he was groomed for it. Right schools, right college, right business school, right connections.
See Bush, George W. as another example…or do you think he went to HBS on his merits and not because of his last name, lol?
angryed on January 13, 2012 at 1:14 PM
I see it as a different problem, I don’t care who he is…except is he a man that can defeat Obama, and I think not.
I am willing to give up a lot to defeat Obama, so it doesn’t matter who Mitt is, except; whatever “they” have, whatever he has in the past be used against him or to defuse any attack on Obama.
I think RomneyCare, TARP, support of GM takeover, etc, all weaken Mitt as an opponent of Obama…add that his top ten money supporters are all Wall Street Corps that are basically the rogue gallery of Wall Street and you have a candidate that is easily dismantled in debates and ads.
right2bright on January 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM
I don’t believe HA has an electron microscope powerful enough to locate any.
“Other than that Mrs.Lincoln, how did you enjoy the play?”
whatcat on January 13, 2012 at 1:19 PM
The same as Chelsea’s Clinton’s first consulting job, which paid her $250,000 a year fresh out of school, and the same any smart company would pay Chelsea or Mitt, for their contacts and the fact that their name alone opens doors and provides leverage that no ordinary person could obtain.
right2bright on January 13, 2012 at 1:21 PM
DO I smell more pious BS, er baloney?
Maybe his dad and a TRUST were different entities?
Who knows? He probably erased the evidence on this too.
golfmann on January 13, 2012 at 1:21 PM
Gore, Kerry, Rockefeller, Forbes, the list is endless…
right2bright on January 13, 2012 at 1:23 PM
And so it continues. They just shot their wad early.
At least they aren’t questioning the parentage of his children.
Yet.
We know this is what they do. We have to make our decisions WITHOUT their input. The best is to assume the LSM is lying unless proven differently.
If anyone thinks this is the only instance of out and out lying that will occur should go home and hide now.
And any candidate that will go along with anything these clowns say without triple checking needs to be kicked to the curb now.
kim roy on January 13, 2012 at 1:23 PM
And…out of which Leftist’s Playbook is all of Romney’s (and others’)
Washington Insider/Beltway Crony hate coming from Mr. Morrissey?!?
Spare us the double standards.
Czar of Defenestration on January 13, 2012 at 1:29 PM
Yup. If we talking about an exaggeration in one 30 second ad it would be a different matter. But here we are talking about an ongoing, concerted dishonest campaign effort between Newt & his PAC.
whatcat on January 13, 2012 at 1:32 PM
Ed explains it in his article. If this had been an Obama video the WaPo wouldn’t have said a word against it, but since a conservative PAC made it they feel free to fact-check it.
Gelsomina on January 13, 2012 at 1:33 PM
And that’s the problem.
mozalf on January 13, 2012 at 12:35 PM
I see it as a different problem, I don’t care who he is…except is he a man that can defeat Obama, and I think not.
I am willing to give up a lot to defeat Obama, so it doesn’t matter who Mitt is, except; whatever “they” have, whatever he has in the past be used against him or to defuse any attack on Obama.
I think RomneyCare, TARP, support of GM takeover, etc, all weaken Mitt as an opponent of Obama…add that his top ten money supporters are all Wall Street Corps that are basically the rogue gallery of Wall Street and you have a candidate that is easily dismantled in debates and ads.
right2bright on January 13, 2012 at 1:18 PM
You make very valid points. However, where I disagree is that I do care who he is. I think integrity is very important. I realize that politics is dirty, but a man who would say and do anything to get elected makes me very uncomfortable and is not to be trusted. So I hope you’re right that they can expose more on his professional background before it’s too late.
mozalf on January 13, 2012 at 1:33 PM
Because it’s the perfect opportunity to take out Gingrich and Perry now. They will attack Romney later.
Gelsomina on January 13, 2012 at 1:51 PM
lool :-) are they available for kindle too :-)
jimver on January 13, 2012 at 1:52 PM
You’d think ‘blink’, who professes himself to be an expert in the world of finance and management consulting would know this.
angryed on January 13, 2012 at 1:54 PM
ah, I can sense some class envy there :-)…oh, well, look at it this way, there’s always Gingrich’s type of marxism to fall back on :-)…
jimver on January 13, 2012 at 1:55 PM
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